Il-2 and Glider towing operations

[=69.GIAP=MYATA]

Lately I realized that it is possible to tow a Glider in IL-2.
The big question is:

How can I release the Glider manually?

How can I plan a mission for A.I. in FMB with an automatic Glider release at a desired location?

[brando]

How can I release the Glider manually?

I'm not sure if there is a flyable aircraft that you can tow a glider with? If there is then I expect it will be released using either the Attach/Detach key or one of the Bomb keys found in the Controls section of the game. You may need to assign a key to the first one I mentioned.

How can I plan a mission for A.I. in FMB with an automatic Glider release at a desired location?

This is quite simple. Make the waypoint where you want the glider release to occur into a Ground attack point. Note that you need to make the first waypoint as follows. Place the tow-plane's 1st waypoint where you want it, then place the glider's near that. Use the Set button from the glider to attach it to the tow-plane.

I hope this is helpful

B

[KG26_Alpha]

Hi
Depending on if you use mods etc.

Unfortunately over the years and different patches the behaviour of gliders has changed somewhat from thier original intent and ai behaviour.
However theere still some fun to be had with them.

I asked for glider release key along time ago and was told its not neccessary as glider releases on waypoint !!!
Although it never does for me online.

Towing planes

C47 tows 1 G11/1 Me321
Pe8 tows 3 G11/1 Me321
Bf110 G2 1 G11/1Me321
He111 z 1 G11/1 Me321
He1112/6 1 G11/1 Me321

You can sucessfuly ground start the He111 with the Me321 in tow it uses rocket assitance on takeoff and drops the canisters by parachute.

Off line if you tow a glider in the He111's fly straight down the waypoint and it will release at the first waypoint.

Online Coop you have to roll the He111 to get the glider to detach as theres no release button.

Good luck

[II./JG1_Krupinski]

This is quite simple. Make the waypoint where you want the glider release to occur into a Ground attack point. Note that you need to make the first waypoint as follows. Place the tow-plane's 1st waypoint where you want it, then place the glider's near that. Use the Set button from the glider to attach it to the tow-plane.

I hope this is helpful

B

This is not entirely true. Turning a waypoint into a GA waypoint, then the glider will release at the waypoint BEFORE it and glide towards the GA WP, somewhat.

As AI approaches a waypoint you'll notice it turning one way or another as it approaches it. When it reaches the waypoint it'll reset and steer towards the next waypoint. This behavior causes the glider to be released off the correct direction. Placing waypoints, you can account for this behavior and place them in a way to use this to your advantage.

The tricky part is judging your distances, i think it's a 10:1 ratio. Meaning for every 1000 meters of altitude (AGL), release 10000 meters out. But don't take my word for it.

Almost any aircraft can tow a glider, except the Ju52 - it'll explode. And humans can takeoff with them.

[brando]

This is not entirely true. Turning a waypoint into a GA waypoint, then the glider will release at the waypoint BEFORE it and glide towards the GA WP, somewhat.

As AI approaches a waypoint you'll notice it turning one way or another as it approaches it. When it reaches the waypoint it'll reset and steer towards the next waypoint. This behavior causes the glider to be released off the correct direction. Placing waypoints, you can account for this behavior and place them in a way to use this to your advantage.

The tricky part is judging your distances, i think it's a 10:1 ratio. Meaning for every 1000 meters of altitude (AGL), release 10000 meters out. But don't take my word for it.

Almost any aircraft can tow a glider, except the Ju52 - it'll explode. And humans can takeoff with them.
Ah, ok, I stand corrected :) I will have to go and actually make a glider mission and take a closer look!

Still, that's the advantage with posting this kind of question here - eventually the correct answer will appear and everyone learns something new.

<S>

B

[=69.GIAP=MYATA]

Thanks for the interest in this topic!
Meanwhile a comrade of my squad found out something very helpful that wasn't mentioned in here so far. I still have to test it but I sounds very useful and I guess it will work (it worked on his machine)

Press Tab (for the wingman communication menu), then press 6 (Squadron), then press 8 (Tactical) and then press 1 (Break).

The glider will detach immediately and confirm that it has detached. It will also keep altitude and its last heading much better.

Please share your experience with this method.

[II./JG1_Krupinski]

Ah, ok, I stand corrected :) I will have to go and actually make a glider mission and take a closer look!

Still, that's the advantage with posting this kind of question here - eventually the correct answer will appear and everyone learns something new.

<S>

B

Absolutely, and I hope you don't think I was trying to be snooty. Just wanted to expand on the thread a bit.

~SALUT~

Raven

[CadMan]

From a COOP recreating Arnhem events, made a couple years ago

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/CadMan_99/COOPs/cooparnhem15.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/CadMan_99/COOPs/cooparnhem09.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/CadMan_99/COOPs/cooparnhem10.jpg

And they almost land within the planned drop points

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/CadMan_99/COOPs/cooparnhem17.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/CadMan_99/COOPs/cooparnhem18.jpg

[=69.GIAP=MYATA]

Great pics!
What happens in the second one?
Paratroopers?

[CadMan]

Thats the 5x Cargo load out option for C-47, found that the 18x Para's caused my old PC to completely freeze up :) .
If I remember correctly in this mission there was 8x Stirlings [Pe-8] with 3x Horsa/Hamil ? [G-11] along with 16x C-47 escorted by 8x P38J [player] being jumped by 3x [2x Bf109].
It did take a number of hours before the gliders landed within 5 km of projected target.

[bf-110]

Salute flyboys.
I´m new here and I´m sorry if I´m getting straight to the matter or getting off topic but,now you mentioned about gliders I would like to ask how I can make the TB-3 SPB to carry two I-16s SPBs.
I made the same procedure as in the gliders,but I can only take one I-16 on the TB-3.

[CadMan]

Easy

Attach two [2] flights of a single 1-16SPB

[bf-110]

Easy

Attach two [2] flights of a single 1-16SPB

Oh...
I was placing two different I-16s SPBs...

[wheelsup_cavu]

Salute flyboys.
I´m new here and I´m sorry if I´m getting straight to the matter or getting off topic but,now you mentioned about gliders I would like to ask how I can make the TB-3 SPB to carry two I-16s SPBs.
I made the same procedure as in the gliders,but I can only take one I-16 on the TB-3.

Here is a simple Mission you can copy and paste into a .mis file.
I am having the I-16's bomb a tanker.
You will notice that the I-16's only have one waypoint.
That is fine they should bomb the tanker and still fly home and land.
The Gattack point is set by the bombers.

Wheelsup

[MAIN]
MAP Okinawa/load.ini
TIME 12.0
CloudType 0
CloudHeight 1000.0
army 1
playerNum 0
[Wing]
r0100
r0110
r0101
r0111
[r0100]
Planes 2
Skill 1
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons default
[r0100_Way]
TAKEOFF 102750.42 23021.30 0 0 &0
NORMFLY 95605.68 13669.80 500.00 197.00 &0
GATTACK 87321.94 16452.62 500.00 197.00 0_Chief 1 &0
NORMFLY 94376.06 24445.13 500.00 197.00 &0
NORMFLY 100880.09 28166.34 500.00 197.00 &0
LANDING 100974.07 25330.67 0 0 &0
[r0110]
Planes 4
Skill 1
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[r0110_Way]
NORMFLY 107937.53 24036.57 500.00 300.00 r0100 0 &0
[r0101]
Planes 2
Skill 1
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons default
[r0101_Way]
TAKEOFF 102750.42 23021.30 0 0 &0
NORMFLY 95819.79 12953.98 500.00 197.00 &0
GATTACK 86429.82 16038.61 500.00 197.00 0_Chief 0 &0
NORMFLY 93007.33 24566.70 500.00 197.00 &0
NORMFLY 100582.81 28966.83 500.00 197.00 &0
LANDING 100974.07 25330.67 0 0 &0
[r0111]
Planes 4
Skill 1
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[r0111_Way]
NORMFLY 106661.34 25519.31 500.00 300.00 r0101 0 &0
[Chiefs]
0_Chief Ships.Tanker 2 0 2 1.0
[0_Chief_Road]
84802.48 19496.38 120.00 0 2 3.729722261428833
85044.48 11328.61 120.00
[NStationary]
[Buildings]
[Bridge]
[House]

[CadMan]

Slightly more complicated mission made as a COOP 4 years ago originally, edited several times since. Mutliple way points, Several Targets, intercepting IAR's for fun
6 x TB-3 SPB 12 x I-16 SPB
6 x IAR-80
3 x Bf-109E4 [AI delayed start]

Mission file


[MAIN]
MAP Crimea/load.ini
TIME 14.25
WEAPONSCONSTANT 1
CloudType 1
CloudHeight 1500.0
army 2
[RespawnTime]
Bigship 1000000
Ship 1000000
Aeroanchored 1000000
Artillery 1000000
Searchlight 1000000
[Wing]
4IAP02
4IAP01
4IAP22
4IAP31
4IAP20
13IAPKBF32
Eskadrila8_00
Eskadrila81_00
4IAP30
4IAP21
13IAPKBF00
4IAP10
4IAP00
4IAP11
4IAP12
Eskadrila58_01
Eskadrila8_01
[4IAP02]
Planes 1
Skill
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons 28fab100
[4IAP02_Way]
NORMFLY 76015.97 59809.93 2000.0 197.0 4IAP00 0 0 0
NORMFLY 83664.07 43032.33 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 82524.36 39815.59 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 80231.42 38358.01 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 73569.25 36965.36 2000.0 197.0 32_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 71855.51 44257.75 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 65498.02 88775.85 500.0 197.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP01]
Planes 1
OnlyAI 1
Parachute 0
Skill 3
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons 28fab100
[4IAP01_Way]
NORMFLY 76608.94 59839.09 2000.0 197.0 4IAP00 0 0 0
NORMFLY 83775.44 43149.63 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 82683.37 39789.27 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 80376.93 38318.02 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 73551.65 36910.36 2000.0 197.0 26_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 71822.93 44215.04 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 65391.85 88660.12 500.0 197.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP22]
Planes 2
OnlyAI 1
Skill 3
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[4IAP22_Way]
NORMFLY 75788.72 59934.72 2000.0 200.0 4IAP02 0 0 0
NORMFLY 83549.11 43189.90 2000.0 200.0 &0
GATTACK 82483.36 39873.76 500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 80279.83 38591.84 1000.0 300.0 4IAP00 3 0 0
GATTACK 73841.44 36987.45 1000.0 300.0 23_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 71887.45 44012.51 1000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 66035.28 87570.43 500.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP31]
Planes 2
OnlyAI 1
Skill 3
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[4IAP31_Way]
NORMFLY 77735.77 60430.47 2000.0 200.0 4IAP11 0 0 0
NORMFLY 85023.98 43021.14 2000.0 200.0 &0
GATTACK 83851.13 37838.61 500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 79449.03 35295.86 1000.0 300.0 4IAP11 3 0 0
GATTACK 72823.32 36407.55 1000.0 300.0 40_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 70017.10 47734.41 1000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 64108.79 88260.02 500.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP20]
Planes 2
Skill 3
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[4IAP20_Way]
NORMFLY 76203.21 59522.96 2000.0 200.0 4IAP00 0 0 0
NORMFLY 83666.17 43160.99 2000.0 200.0 &0
GATTACK 82511.43 39915.74 500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 80595.16 38535.15 1000.0 300.0 4IAP02 3 0 0
GATTACK 73793.35 36925.02 1000.0 300.0 29_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 71985.38 44039.80 1000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 66109.66 88126.37 500.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[13IAPKBF32]
Planes 2
OnlyAI 1
Skill 3
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[13IAPKBF32_Way]
NORMFLY 78795.47 60778.18 2000.0 200.0 4IAP12 0 0 0
NORMFLY 84629.70 42992.23 2000.0 200.0 &0
GATTACK 83915.60 37916.29 500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 79418.30 35695.26 1000.0 300.0 4IAP10 3 0 0
GATTACK 72993.11 36413.67 1000.0 300.0 4_Chief 9 0 0
NORMFLY 70334.90 47659.84 1000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 64500.25 88241.38 500.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[Eskadrila8_00]
Planes 3
Skill 1
Class air.IAR_80
Fuel 100
weapons default
[Eskadrila8_00_Way]
TAKEOFF 72942.79 37653.65 0 0 &0
NORMFLY 72252.26 39192.10 500.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 73938.15 42138.55 1000.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 82154.59 43974.21 1500.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 84695.88 39754.27 1500.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 78847.88 37223.09 1000.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 74195.97 35488.43 1000.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 73633.77 36171.84 0 0 &0
[Eskadrila81_00]
Planes 3
OnlyAI 1
Skill 1
Class air.BF_109E4
Fuel 100
weapons default
StartTime 4
[Eskadrila81_00_Way]
TAKEOFF 72942.79 37653.65 0 0 &0
NORMFLY 72079.82 39339.25 500.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 74058.70 42589.04 1000.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 81920.87 44775.48 1500.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 84574.04 39127.47 1500.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 79540.87 37455.61 1000.0 250.0 &0
NORMFLY 73977.05 35631.61 500.0 628.0 &0
LANDING 73633.77 36171.84 0 0 &0
[4IAP30]
Planes 2
Skill 3
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[4IAP30_Way]
NORMFLY 78461.60 60207.54 2000.0 200.0 4IAP10 0 0 0
NORMFLY 84909.08 42798.72 2000.0 200.0 &0
GATTACK 83979.95 37978.72 500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 79310.77 36017.85 1000.0 300.0 4IAP12 3 0 0
GATTACK 73159.53 36434.88 1000.0 300.0 4_Chief 11 0 0
NORMFLY 70539.95 47753.05 1000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 64835.79 88297.31 500.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP21]
Planes 2
OnlyAI 1
Skill 3
Class air.I_16TYPE24DRONE
Fuel 100
weapons 2fab250
[4IAP21_Way]
NORMFLY 76743.06 60104.52 2000.0 200.0 4IAP01 0 0 0
NORMFLY 83828.84 43219.32 2000.0 200.0 &0
GATTACK 82570.38 39774.88 500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 80647.32 38395.36 1000.0 300.0 4IAP01 3 0 0
GATTACK 73717.53 36875.39 1000.0 300.0 35_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 71741.33 44138.37 1000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 65663.04 87917.86 500.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[13IAPKBF00]
Planes 2
Skill 3
Class air.MBR_2AM34
Fuel 100
weapons 8xFAB50
[13IAPKBF00_Way]
TAKEOFF 64821.32 95019.44 0 0 &0
NORMFLY 63172.55 93194.39 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 62939.08 88793.93 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 73815.76 84797.71 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 64502.82 78438.49 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 70445.03 72809.02 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 65510.56 67978.80 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 71835.03 65129.32 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 65441.06 60646.59 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 72391.02 59187.10 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 64919.81 73782.02 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 68881.29 84484.96 500.0 245.0 &0
NORMFLY 63176.47 93477.95 500.0 245.0 &0
LANDING 64066.81 94436.85 0 0 &0
[4IAP10]
Planes 1
Skill 3
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons 28fab100
[4IAP10_Way]
NORMFLY 78592.91 59843.08 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 84850.90 42682.49 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 83958.31 37945.37 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 79087.61 35457.54 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 72808.51 36875.32 2000.0 197.0 36_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 70303.25 48096.31 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 64363.60 88775.39 500.0 197.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP00]
Planes 1
Skill 3
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons 28fab100
[4IAP00_Way]
NORMFLY 76446.71 59541.86 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 83537.13 43169.67 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 82509.78 39931.55 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 80256.42 38473.49 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 73630.61 36977.44 2000.0 197.0 20_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 71897.60 44184.65 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 65627.29 88646.88 500.0 197.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP11]
Planes 1
OnlyAI 1
Parachute 0
Skill 3
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons 28fab100
[4IAP11_Way]
NORMFLY 78027.80 60334.37 2000.0 197.0 4IAP10 0 0 0
NORMFLY 85011.72 42857.44 2000.0 197.0 4IAP10 1 0 0
NORMFLY 84093.08 37913.66 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 79326.42 35442.16 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 72767.25 36775.72 2000.0 197.0 42_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 70210.27 47784.57 2000.0 197.0 4IAP10 5 0 0
NORMFLY 64095.24 88570.66 500.0 197.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[4IAP12]
Planes 1
OnlyAI 1
Parachute 0
Skill 3
Class air.TB_3_4M_34R_SPB
Fuel 100
weapons 28fab100
[4IAP12_Way]
NORMFLY 78683.01 60409.96 2000.0 197.0 4IAP10 0 0 0
NORMFLY 84738.83 42964.10 2000.0 197.0 4IAP10 1 0 0
NORMFLY 83856.39 38020.95 2000.0 197.0 &0
NORMFLY 79146.87 35680.05 2000.0 197.0 &0
GATTACK 72866.74 36943.42 2000.0 197.0 46_Static 0 0 0
NORMFLY 70515.98 47867.05 2000.0 197.0 4IAP10 5 0 0
NORMFLY 64711.01 88539.87 500.0 197.0 &0
LANDING 63709.88 96637.49 0 0 &0
[Eskadrila58_01]
Planes 1
Skill 1
Class air.P_11C
Fuel 100
weapons 2puw125
StartTime 0
[Eskadrila58_01_Way]
TAKEOFF 107784.34 77239.42 0 0 &0
LANDING 106499.97 76343.07 0 0 &0
[Eskadrila8_01]
Planes 3
Skill 1
Class air.IAR_80
Fuel 100
weapons default
[Eskadrila8_01_Way]
NORMFLY 97338.35 26615.02 2000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 81632.30 29232.69 2000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 74916.98 33319.35 500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 73740.43 35917.69 50.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 75326.30 40301.48 1000.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 79738.90 39997.17 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 83042.92 38084.31 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 82673.39 34997.66 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 79282.43 34084.71 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 77065.26 35367.19 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 76021.88 39127.69 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 78108.63 42083.91 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 82129.97 42649.08 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 85390.52 38279.94 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 83977.61 34845.50 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 81586.55 33563.02 1500.0 300.0 &0
NORMFLY 75630.62 33736.92 500.0 300.0 &0
LANDING 73633.77 36171.84 0 0 &0
[Chiefs]
0_Chief Ships.Tramp 2 0 2 1.0
1_Chief Ships.Tramp 2 0 2 1.0
2_Chief Trains.Germany_CargoFuelTrain 2
3_Chief Trains.Germany_EquipmentCTrain/AA 2
4_Chief Vehicles.OpelBlitz6700A_fuel 2
5_Chief Vehicles.GermanyCarsColumnA 2
[0_Chief_Road]
78532.11 40801.49 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
78278.05 41074.48 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
75973.58 41144.11 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
68533.20 39288.13 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
66537.46 37842.95 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
66239.25 30869.35 120.00
[1_Chief_Road]
79161.10 40832.69 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
78329.80 41074.63 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
76057.04 41191.80 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
68661.10 39431.30 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
66572.61 38093.15 120.00 0 2 2.5722224712371826
66522.59 30939.82 120.00
[2_Chief_Road]
90300.00 46100.00 20.00 0 17 5.555555820465088
84900.00 46100.00 20.00
84100.00 45300.00 20.00
82500.00 45300.00 20.00
81700.00 44500.00 20.00
81700.00 42900.00 20.00
82700.00 41900.00 20.00
82700.00 41700.00 20.00
83500.00 40900.00 20.00
83700.00 40900.00 20.00
84900.00 39700.00 20.00
84900.00 38900.00 20.00
84300.00 38300.00 20.00
84100.00 38100.00 -82.00
83700.00 37700.00 -82.00
83500.00 37500.00 20.00
83100.00 37100.00 20.00
[3_Chief_Road]
79500.00 39100.00 20.00 0 14 5.555555820465088
79100.00 39500.00 20.00
79100.00 39700.00 20.00
79500.00 40100.00 20.00
79700.00 40100.00 20.00
79900.00 40300.00 20.00
80100.00 40100.00 20.00
80700.00 40100.00 20.00
81300.00 39500.00 20.00
82100.00 39500.00 20.00
82300.00 39700.00 -160.00
82500.00 39900.00 -160.00
82700.00 40100.00 20.00
83300.00 40700.00 20.00
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Properties File:


Name CadMan Zveno Misson
Short A CadMan COOP Mission \nJune 2006\n\nZveno\n\nThe Russian TB3 SPB I-16 SPB Squadron launches its first raid across the Black Sea from its Crimean base against vital Rail bridges in Romania.\n\nFlyable\nTB3 SPB, I-16 SPB, IAR-80\n\n\n\n
Description A CadMan COOP Mission \nJune 2006\n\nHttp://www.kiwisim.net.nz\n\nThe first ever TB3 SPB I16 SPB Raid.\n25 August 1941\n\nThe Russian TB3 SPB I16 SPB Squadron launches its first raid across the Black Sea from its Crimean base of Yevpatoria against vital Rail bridges at Cernavoda in Romania on the Danbe River.\n\n[RED]\nPrimary:\nDestroy the bridges\nSecondary:\nSuppress the airbase\n\n[BLUE]\nScramble, incoming bombers without escorts.\nShould be easy.\n\n\n\n\n\n



http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/CadMan_99/COOPs/CM_Zveno_01.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y110/CadMan_99/COOPs/CM_Zveno_02.jpg

[II/JG54_Emil]

Thanks for the interest in this topic!
Meanwhile a comrade of my squad found out something very helpful that wasn't mentioned in here so far. I still have to test it but I sounds very useful and I guess it will work (it worked on his machine)



Please share your experience with this method.

Hm, how do handle it if you´re flying a glider yourself and want to detach?

[KG26_Alpha]

Hm, how do handle it if you´re flying a glider yourself and want to detach?


Its not possible.

[Blackjack]

Also it is possible to attach a glider to ANY player airplane, it even worked everytime in the past versions but went mostly unnoticed, but if you attach the glider to a supported plane it will still stay attached when you change the towing plane to say, a me262 , J8, P11 you name it !

The most insane setup I made with a Mistel with player FW190A8 attached, towing a me321 on top of a aircraft carrier, positioning of the me321 to be on top of the deck is a bit tricky , and you never are able to take of as the chocks of the mistel cant be removed , looked cool though.

I managed to get the me321 into the air by using a slow plane, and detatchement is achieved not only by the last waypoint but at extreme maneuvers as well:

http://rapidshare.de/files/47883676/tow.ntrk.html

as the towing cable is removed from ntrk file , heres the mission, try to take off to the left as much as possible:

http://rapidshare.de/files/47883736/extreme_towing.zip.html

also included the mistel setup , but only for 4.09b as its on slovakia map, sorry...

now about realism....

its just for the fun of it :-)