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fireflyerz
12-16-2008, 04:34 PM
:arrow:Just wondering if there is official SOW site that I dont know about , cos there has bin nada updates from Oleg in here for a while or are we just back to bussiness as usual...;)
IceFire
12-16-2008, 06:13 PM
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2040&page=2
The last update was a few weeks ago...
K_Freddie
12-16-2008, 08:31 PM
Nice to see 1C has it's own 'publishing' concern..:grin:
Never noticed that before... must be the red wine :cool:
JG52Uther
12-16-2008, 11:21 PM
Hot news is one day we might even see a plane update!
fireflyerz
12-17-2008, 04:00 AM
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=2040&page=2
The last update was a few weeks ago...
:arrow:Ah yes, I remember now, guess the oldies were right about the memory loss as the years pile up , cant beleive that was only a few weeks ago , feels like months...DOH:confused:
Skarphol
12-17-2008, 06:53 AM
But seriously: Can anyone understand the purpose of this site?
It has been stated time and again that updates and PR is the responsibility of the publisher. If that is true, then this is probably not the site for info on SOW:BOB. That argument is supported by the fact that this is an IL-2 site, not a SOW:BOB-site.
But the IL-2 series is excelently covered over at the UbiZoo! Why was this forum created?
I'm stilll coming here twice a day to look for any update on SOW:BOB.
Now I've started to look for info on where I should look for info..
Skarphol
F19_Klunk
12-17-2008, 07:26 AM
Well if my memory doesn't let me down, I recall Oleg answered a question not long ago where he stated that an official SOW site is under development and it is planned to go online one of these days (new year's maybe?).
This is not a forum for SOW, as seen on the header; this is a forum for Il2. I guess Oleg uses it just to from time to time let us un-officially know what's going on with SOW development, just as he did in the "other" forum back at the Zoo. So I guess we should pretty much consider this place as a sibling to the old place.
The reason why they moved it from UBI to 1C beats me but I am sure there is a legit reason... I guess it's a pragmatic solution. One has to remember that UBI served the market outside Russia, and 1C the Russian market. It makes sense to keep it together. I haven't seen the Russian equivalent to the UBI forums, but considering that Oleg and IL2 is H-U-G-E in Russia I guess it is somewhere :)
F19_Klunk
12-17-2008, 07:33 AM
Try this one
http://forums.games.1c.ru/?type=topics&group_id=32&DTFSESSID=285e95dc9a5e8a696674ce4e667c082b
Google translation service is quite useful at time.. even though it's not perfect :)
Tree_UK
12-17-2008, 02:37 PM
After my conversation with Ubisoft in which they insisted that they are not involved with SOW in any shape or form, i have come to the conclusion that they will not be the publisher. Yes there have been those who have told me that i only spoke to a tea boy, my answer is simple, "phone them yourself".
IceFire
12-18-2008, 04:17 AM
After my conversation with Ubisoft in which they insisted that they are not involved with SOW in any shape or form, i have come to the conclusion that they will not be the publisher. Yes there have been those who have told me that i only spoke to a tea boy, my answer is simple, "phone them yourself".
Phone who? Their customer service people? Like they know anything about games in development and various partnerships. Its definitely worthy to not assume anything these days...Ubisoft might not be the publisher in the end...but I doubt a phone call will clear it up.
Chivas
12-18-2008, 04:48 AM
Ubi wasn't interested in letting Oleg post updates until the sim was closer to release. Oleg then started posting limited updates on this forum. Not sure if the updates were vague because they didn't want to get into a pissin* contest with UBI or they didn't want to give the competition any heads up on features.
Who knows if UBI is still envolved. Even finding IL-2 1946 on their site store is difficult. Under simulations they only list the early releases of the IL-2 series. You have to do a search for IL-2 1246 to find it. UBI hasn't said a word about SOW since they annouced a release date of end of 2006. We know Oleg wasn't ready to release a dumbed down version of the game so there may be some head butting. Or everything could be hunky-dory and they will start advertising the existance of SOW in the suitable time frame.
I don't have a problem with waiting. We will get plenty of updates when the time is right.
People have been pining for advertising to start for the last 3 years and it would have been a total waste of money if it had of started back then.
Tree_UK
12-18-2008, 11:14 AM
Phone who? Their customer service people? Like they know anything about games in development and various partnerships. Its definitely worthy to not assume anything these days...Ubisoft might not be the publisher in the end...but I doubt a phone call will clear it up.
When i phoned UBi in the UK, i originally spoke to a receptionist, i asked him if i could speak to someone about the release date of SOW, , he asked what type of game was it because he had not heard of it, i told him its a flight sim. I was then transferred to a guy that had worked with the IL2 series. He knew all about OLeg and Il2 and he had a little knowledge of SOW but insisted that it was nothing to do with Ubi, he then said that i should talk to another guy who was much better informed than himself, he put me through. This guy knew all about 1C and Oleg and about SOW, his words to me were that Ubisoft were no-longer involved with the project. Which when you think about it makes sense, according to Oleg the game should be released within a year, so you would imagine that if Ubisoft were involved they would of already started to get the marketing ball rolling.
It could be that the guys at Ubisoft all told me a pack of lies, it could be that i am telling a pack of lies! However since no-one else has bothered to make a call to check then this is the best info i can give you. It matters little to me anyhow, because it is obvious now that this sim will be released whoever publishers it, but from my info i dont think it will be ubi.
Tree_UK
12-18-2008, 11:33 AM
Update, just phoned UBi again and made out i worked for a leading games magazine and that i wanted to speak to someone about SOW, i got to speak to Ubi's group brand manager James O’Reilly. He knew all about SOW but said its nothing to do with Ubi, he said i think 505 are dealing with it, then he said i will just call them to find out, he then told me that he had spoke to 505 and they were not involved, he said hang on a minute, and i heard him ask his team if anyone knew who was dealing with SOW Battle of Britain, no-one knew. I said that lots of company's were taking pre-orders stating that Ubisoft were the publishers. He was aware of this and said that Ubi was in the process of rectifying this. He then said look give me your phone number and i will find out who is the publisher and call you back. So watch this space.
Chivas
12-18-2008, 04:54 PM
Interesting Tree...Maybe that's why Oleg stated that the group hired to build the official site would not be available until the end of this year. If it were UBI they already had the SOW site mostly built a year or so ago and manpower to finish before then. Then again the site Oleg is taking about could be just the eastern publisher. If UBI is gone their should have been some kind of annoucement unless the lawyers are still involved.
KG26_Alpha
12-18-2008, 06:47 PM
I would prefer to order and purchase direct from 1c be it download or DVD in the post.
I thought Oleg/1c and UBI parted company a long time ago over the PF fiasco Luthier created and the pay outs that had to be made to certain aircraft company/companies ?
WTE_Galway
12-18-2008, 08:58 PM
I would prefer to order and purchase direct from 1c be it download or DVD in the post.
I thought Oleg/1c and UBI parted company a long time ago over the PF fiasco Luthier created and the pay outs that had to be made to certain aircraft company/companies ?
I suspect the UBI policy of using the evil Sony Securerom root kit on all non-US 1946 DVD's has not helped sales either.
Tree_UK
12-19-2008, 03:41 PM
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.
KG26_Alpha
12-19-2008, 04:26 PM
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.
Why are you so concerned ?
I'm sure Oleg/1c will have the distribution sorted without your efforts.
Relax its nearly Christmas !!!!!
Have fun this holiday all :grin:
SlipBall
12-19-2008, 04:30 PM
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.
There may have been a falling out between the parties, after UBI announced a release date a couple of years ago, and !c said sorry but...noway!. Maybe UBI yanking financial support, and right to publish, after realizing how distant release would be :-P
IceFire
12-19-2008, 04:31 PM
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.
Thanks Tree. Thats rather more indepth than I had assumed!
Its very interesting because Ubisoft did indeed make the press release back a couple of years ago. Its interesting that they are apparently no longer involved in the project. I wonder what will happen now.
1C was expanding their publishing presence into North America...so maybe it will be a strictly 1C publication. Which is fine with me too.
Volker
12-19-2008, 04:46 PM
Guys sorry that I m disappointing you but the game will NEVER BE PUBLISHED.
All we see almost 2 years now is high res pictures and absolutely nothing else to prove that the game exists,(please don't mention video from 46 DVD utube has better videos than this, made with IL2).
This forum just gets IL2 players here to see ads for other 1C games,that 's all.
IL2 was great,thank you for the experience Oleg,it will always be in my heart, but don't con us anymore please :)
SlipBall
12-19-2008, 04:54 PM
I don't know about that...I still think that we will see it released someday
JG52Uther
12-19-2008, 06:01 PM
Official announcement would be a good thing now.
Nike-it?
Tree_UK
12-19-2008, 06:37 PM
Why are you so concerned ?
I'm sure Oleg/1c will have the distribution sorted without your efforts.
Relax its nearly Christmas !!!!!
Have fun this holiday all :grin:
1. Concerned, who's concerned?
2. I am not trying to get Oleg a distribution deal.
3. I am very relaxed.
4. Dont shoot the messenger.
Chivas
12-19-2008, 06:45 PM
Thanks for the info Tree.
Not having UBI as a publisher is not a problem. IC did announce that Atari(?) would be doing most of its western publishing, but at the time it was not believed to include BOB SOW. It doesn't matter anyway as SOW can be distributed from anywhere in the world and they can pay for their own advertising when the time comes.
You gotta love the vapourware trolls. That would be you Volker.
~Salute~
Chivas
JG52Uther
12-19-2008, 06:48 PM
But surely if they are tied into a deal with ubi,as has been the past info,then that would cause a problem.
fireflyerz
12-19-2008, 07:20 PM
Guys sorry that I m disappointing you but the game will NEVER BE PUBLISHED.
All we see almost 2 years now is high res pictures and absolutely nothing else to prove that the game exists,(please don't mention video from 46 DVD utube has better videos than this, made with IL2).
This forum just gets IL2 players here to see ads for other 1C games,that 's all.
IL2 was great,thank you for the experience Oleg,it will always be in my heart, but don't con us anymore please :)
:arrow:You may:cry:be right , but I hope your wrong , personally when I browse this site the only thing I take notice of are sow stuff, everything else is insignificant next to the power of the BOB, please say it aint so ......:mrgreen:
Pizzicato
12-19-2008, 11:58 PM
Guys sorry that I m disappointing you but the game will NEVER BE PUBLISHED.
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Tree_UK
12-20-2008, 12:44 AM
I am certain like most of you here that this product is not vapourware, what i am concerned about is when online gaming stores take money for pre orders stating that Ubi is the distibuter/publisher. This in my opinion is simply wrong.
Skarphol
12-20-2008, 11:26 AM
Thanks for your effort, Tree UK!
Oleg stated that the promotion-sites for SOW:BOB should be up around X-mas. I guess it is not very likely that those pages are up without a publisher. So we will probably get an answer of who the publisher will be quite soon. Two weeks, I mean it!
My guess (and that is a completely shot in the dark) is that 1C will be the publisher..
Skarphol
KG26_Alpha
12-20-2008, 01:51 PM
1. Concerned, who's concerned?
2. I am not trying to get Oleg a distribution deal.
3. I am very relaxed.
4. Dont shoot the messenger.
No ones shooting anyone.
I just don't see the point of everyone getting whipped up at this early stage !!!!
Its ready when its ready.
Who the heck are we to tell Oleg who's distributing HIS sim :)
Just stop poking the sleeping bear .... it might maul you !!
Tree_UK
12-20-2008, 04:41 PM
I am not whipped up, i am merely passing on information.
It is indeed ready when its ready.
We are not telling Oleg who should distribute his sim. We are merely telling you who may not be.
I am not poking anyone, and i am not scared of being mauled.
Chivas
12-20-2008, 04:45 PM
Tree...could you imagine the hand wringing in here if SOW didn't have a western publisher yet. :)
Tree_UK
12-20-2008, 05:00 PM
Tree...could you imagine the hand wringing in here if SOW didn't have a western publisher yet. :)
Lets not even go there Chivas :grin::grin:
KG26_Alpha
12-20-2008, 08:38 PM
Past history has shown its released in the eastern market first then the western.
This should be avoided help keep off the pirate copies due to an imbalance in the east-west markets.
I hope 1c take it on themselves as far as distribution goes, I would rather them get all the profits.
The online community is small in comparison to "other" online games/sims I wonder how much youtube contributed to sales compared to UBI soft, also sales figures are higher in eastern markets than western and probally easier to handle from 1c's end.
I can wait, IL2 1946 isn't dead and offers more than BoB will on its first release, I hope the quality is of the same standard the past products have been.
:grin:
Skarphol
12-25-2008, 01:22 PM
Just had a call from James O’Reilly at ubisoft, he has told me that despite his best efforts he cannot find anyone who knows anything about who the publishers will be for SOW, he said he has phoned nearly all the leading game publishers. He also said only a small minority of guys that he had spoken to had actually heard of it. I asked him if he had spoken to people who were at the same level as him i.e. Group brand manager, he said yes. he also said that if found any info out he would let me know in the future. I think from this info it is now fairly safe to say that Ubi are not involved.
I just came to check up on one thing:
If you go to www.stormofwar.com you are redirected to www.ubi.com.
So it seems they must have some connection to the game after all. As far as I know, the stormofwar-adress has not been accessable for more than a few months.
Skarphol
311thCopperhead
12-29-2008, 05:57 AM
I'm so hoping 1C does the westen publiching in house. man im so sick of UBI and thier garbage. they screw everything up they put thier hands on. Pacific Fighters anyone? i mean comon. we all know how that played out.
yep no more UBI involved in Olegs sims...that'd be a good thing for us.
And possibly more profitable for Oleg & 1C? lets hope.
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