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SG1_Gunkan
11-14-2008, 08:46 AM
Full quality videos:
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=OMN5YGRL

High quality:
http://www.vimeo.com/2234225
http://www.vimeo.com/2240424
http://www.vimeo.com/2240574
http://www.vimeo.com/2240664

Low quality:
SG1 - Espartanos
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=adb-VtJegjc

SG1 - Amour
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oPHrtgcwXt0

SG1 - Riders of Doom
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H52uwJ1RkeI

SG1 - Ion
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yxqVE2dk9I4

Thunderbolt56
11-14-2008, 12:57 PM
What are all those little numbers and letters flying around next to the aircraft?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/Thunderbolt56/yikes.gif

Flyby
11-14-2008, 12:58 PM
very nice videos! thanks for posting. Impressive how deadly the FW can be when flown by good pilots. Do you guys go up against other squadrons, or have opfor ranks filled randomly in COOPs? Again, nice videos. ;)
Flyby out

JG27CaptStubing
11-14-2008, 03:18 PM
What are all those little numbers and letters flying around next to the aircraft?

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v687/Thunderbolt56/yikes.gif


I think those are projected by nearby Alien ships for tracking and ID information.

Bobby109
11-14-2008, 07:41 PM
good videos, thx for posting them

Erkki
11-14-2008, 09:47 PM
very nice videos! thanks for posting. Impressive how deadly the FW can be when flown by good pilots. Do you guys go up against other squadrons, or have opfor ranks filled randomly in COOPs? Again, nice videos. ;)
Flyby out

I think they fly FW190A9 and FW190D9 only on WarClouds. And they are the only people on that server who fly together = poor P51s, Spits and 46's die en masse. Just an hour ago I was shot down by them - seeing SEVEN FW190s all firing MK108s behind me was almost worth dying. Sad that reds can only die and blaim each other on shouldershooting.

IceFire
11-14-2008, 10:00 PM
I think they fly FW190A9 and FW190D9 only on WarClouds. And they are the only people on that server who fly together = poor P51s, Spits and 46's die en masse. Just an hour ago I was shot down by them - seeing SEVEN FW190s all firing MK108s behind me was almost worth dying. Sad that reds can only die and blaim each other on shouldershooting.

We often fly together on the UK-Dedicated servers as well. Formations of bombers or fighters...either way team tactics always work better than lone wolf style. It is of course harder to manage a group and that group needs to know how to function in air combat as a team player rather than the self centered approach....but once you overcome those things....teamplay will defeat all comers.

T}{OR
11-14-2008, 10:12 PM
Nice videos. Thanks for sharing.

I think they fly FW190A9 and FW190D9 only on WarClouds. And they are the only people on that server who fly together = poor P51s, Spits and 46's die en masse. Just an hour ago I was shot down by them - seeing SEVEN FW190s all firing MK108s behind me was almost worth dying. Sad that reds can only die and blaim each other on shouldershooting.


I want to see them do it with P51s - against 190s, then we can talk. Anyone can kill with mk108. ;)

Erkki
11-14-2008, 10:33 PM
We often fly together on the UK-Dedicated servers as well. Formations of bombers or fighters...either way team tactics always work better than lone wolf style. It is of course harder to manage a group and that group needs to know how to function in air combat as a team player rather than the self centered approach....but once you overcome those things....teamplay will defeat all comers.

Of course.

Thor: me too. ;)

Thunderbolt56
11-15-2008, 01:32 AM
I want to see them do it with P51s - against 190s, then we can talk. Anyone can kill with mk108. ;)


word

123-Wulf-123
11-15-2008, 12:08 PM
Easy to blame a Mk108 its sort of cheating ....isn't it ?? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

How about blaming your self for allowing a 190 to get a shot on you in the first place?:-P

FYI a 190 with 20mm is ALL you need if you have the shot and don't forget the Dora in 4.08 doesn't have MK108s:cool:

T}{OR
11-15-2008, 01:07 PM
Easy to blame a Mk108 its sort of cheating ....isn't it ?? :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

How about blaming your self for allowing a 190 to get a shot on you in the first place?:-P

FYI a 190 with 20mm is ALL you need if you have the shot and don't forget the Dora in 4.08 doesn't have MK108s:cool:


FYI - I guess that stands for 'For Your Information'? Anyway...

When engaged with skilled pilots and being outnumbered (7 to 1 like mentioned) - there is never and will never be such thing as 'rambo'. You will get shot down. Period. The end. I'd blame myself for even entering such a server. ;)

123-Wulf-123
11-15-2008, 02:32 PM
Its all fun :)

robtek
11-15-2008, 04:47 PM
@thor

the fault is NOT to join that server, that could happen on any server (except air-quake servers maybe). The fault is you werent above them and couldnt pick out one at the time or extend and avoid them. You may find fault that you entered the furball low and slow.

K_Freddie
11-15-2008, 05:13 PM
I'd say this ntrk (V4.08 ) (1.7MB) (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/SomeHLServer.ntrk) should imply that no theory is written in concrete ;)

Got 'bounced' off some other server, so played on this one - cannot remember which server it was last night, but quiet a mess, and it might make a good movie too :cool:

Erkki
11-15-2008, 06:22 PM
FYI - I guess that stands for 'For Your Information'? Anyway...

When engaged with skilled pilots and being outnumbered (7 to 1 like mentioned) - there is never and will never be such thing as 'rambo'. You will get shot down. Period. The end. I'd blame myself for even entering such a server. ;)

There were some 50 people on the server that moment. I tried to save a Spitfire and a P51 from 4 fockes, but 3 joined higher. My mistake was to presume there couldnt be 7 bandits at low alt, all in voice comms, 30km behind the lines and between two allied airfields. I managed to shake 3 of them in the scissors, not quite enough. :grin:

JG27CaptStubing
11-16-2008, 05:38 PM
Nice videos. Thanks for sharing.


I want to see them do it with P51s - against 190s, then we can talk. Anyone can kill with mk108. ;)

Anyone can kill with the 50s as well. Question for you... Have you ever flown the FW?

word

I consider my self to be more of a FW driver more on the Anton side of things but I can certainly do well in the 51s and the 47. My favorite ride is the MKIII Mustang to be honest.

It's doesn't take much to transition to the 51 or 57 after flying the Anton. BTW good FWs drivers typically avoid the MK108s. The 20s hit plenty hard and carry a lot more ammo. They don't have the weight penalty either so your Anton can corner just a tad better.

The only thing I would say anyone going from a FW to a 51 would have troubles with is the Wing Shedding and the Blackout Problems.

Up high there really isn't an answer to the 47 from the German side. Running all day until your WEP runs out without overheating makes it a joy to fly. Even the top notch D9 is sucking wind up there.

What I would like to see is the Spit Drivers transition to the FW or the 109 for that matter.

JG27CaptStubing
11-16-2008, 05:52 PM
FYI - I guess that stands for 'For Your Information'? Anyway...

When engaged with skilled pilots and being outnumbered (7 to 1 like mentioned) - there is never and will never be such thing as 'rambo'. You will get shot down. Period. The end. I'd blame myself for even entering such a server. ;)

I wouldn't blame the server per say... If you don't know already WC has been around for years and some of the guys there have been flying on it since the beginning. They are really good. I may be wrong but I would venture to say the Blue guys are more inclined to team up. Having flown Antons for quite some time its manditory you team with someone if you want to survive long.

Also Allied planes are usually the choice of entry level guys because of their history. A lot of the new guys tend to lone wolf it. It's also common to see Med to Low Alt Fights where the 51 and 47 aren't supposed to be. That's all Spit Tempest FW 109 territory.

Given you sig pic you drive a p51. Stay up high and pick them off as they fly under you. It's a completely different fight. Not much can touch you up high.

JG27CaptStubing
11-16-2008, 06:27 PM
I'd say this ntrk (V4.08 ) (1.7MB) (http://www.vanjast.com/IL2Movies/SomeHLServer.ntrk) should imply that no theory is written in concrete ;)

Got 'bounced' off some other server, so played on this one - cannot remember which server it was last night, but quiet a mess, and it might make a good movie too :cool:

On Whim I watched your video... It's very painful to see that you're still using a hat switch for panning your views. While you definately know how to shoot you're missing so much situational awarness its hard to watch. You were unaware of a lot of things that would have cost you had those pilots knew what they were doing.

Also it looked like you where flying an A6. Did you know it has boost? You didn't touch it during your entire fight. Why is that?

K_Freddie
11-16-2008, 06:52 PM
... It's very painful to see that you're still using a hat switch for panning your views.

I live with it... :cool:

.. you're missing so much situational awarness its hard to watch. You were unaware of a lot of things that would have cost you had those pilots knew what they were doing.

Not that much loss of SA.. At first keeping track of 3 can be a problem, but there are ways around it.


Also it looked like you where flying an A6. Did you know it has boost? You didn't touch it during your entire fight. Why is that?
BOOST... ??? Where's that button... :grin: :grin: :grin:
I've a tendency to avoid it as I run the engine at max anyway.

JG27CaptStubing
11-16-2008, 07:34 PM
I live with it... :cool:

Not that much loss of SA.. At first keeping track of 3 can be a problem, but there are ways around it.


BOOST... ??? Where's that button... :grin: :grin: :grin:
I've a tendency to avoid it as I run the engine at max anyway.

You don't know what you're missing... You have to map a key or in my case I map a joystick button. The boost in the Anton is NOT GM1 or MW50 so you can't blow your motor. It does cause an overheat but it's very manageble and I highly recommend getting use to it. Also in a cruise mode I use Auto pitch but in a Fight I use manual which can ink you out some extra performance. Auto is okay but it can make a big difference in a Fight.


Don't wait another second and get your self a Tracker IR. Its a world of difference. Trust me.

Baron
11-16-2008, 07:36 PM
Nice videos. Thanks for sharing.




I want to see them do it with P51s - against 190s, then we can talk. Anyone can kill with mk108. ;)



I thought u where seriouse there for a sec, what, with the 1-2 .50 "longrange laser" cal hits anywhere on Fw`s wing rendering it usless and all...not to mentione PK`s 13 times on the dozen. ;)


Good joke :)

K_Freddie
11-17-2008, 04:21 AM
It does cause an overheat but it's very manageble and I highly recommend getting use to it. Also in a cruise mode I use Auto pitch but in a Fight I use manual which can ink you out some extra performance. Auto is okay but it can make a big difference in a Fight.

Don't wait another second and get your self a Tracker IR. Its a world of difference. Trust me.
Thanks, but I've done all this already ;) , and reverted back to a simple model, that allows me to concentrate more on the DF - 'lose on the swings, gain on the roundabouts' type of thingy.

TIR - Don't like it. The reason is that turning my head one way and my eyeballs looking the other way doesn't gel. I've tried TIR, and with a VR920, but the resolution is not good enough, and tracking a bit jerky. this all becomes a problem when rolling too fast, as orientation goes out the window.

I find at the moment I work best with a HAT, as I have a fixed reference point and it's easier to keep orientation. With regard to SA, I've honed down flicking the HAT here and there for a brief glimpse of the 'scenery'.
When a cheap enough type of VR920 arrives with a min resolution of 800x600 WITH good tracking I 'll do the switch.
Phew... that was a long story
:)

JG27CaptStubing
11-17-2008, 05:18 PM
Thanks, but I've done all this already ;) , and reverted back to a simple model, that allows me to concentrate more on the DF - 'lose on the swings, gain on the roundabouts' type of thingy.

TIR - Don't like it. The reason is that turning my head one way and my eyeballs looking the other way doesn't gel. I've tried TIR, and with a VR920, but the resolution is not good enough, and tracking a bit jerky. this all becomes a problem when rolling too fast, as orientation goes out the window.

I find at the moment I work best with a HAT, as I have a fixed reference point and it's easier to keep orientation. With regard to SA, I've honed down flicking the HAT here and there for a brief glimpse of the 'scenery'.
When a cheap enough type of VR920 arrives with a min resolution of 800x600 WITH good tracking I 'll do the switch.
Phew... that was a long story
:)


Which version of the TIR did you use and did it have 6DOF? The newer version of the TIR with 6DOF makes all that go away. The jerkyness if you are experiencing which makes me think you tried an older version can all be tuned out via their software.

Turning your head with the ability to keep your eyes on the monitor isn't really a problem. You adjust the rate in the software so your eyes never leave the monitor.

Once you start to get the hang of it you wont be using a hat switch anymore.

I will link one of my tracks in a heavy DF and you will see how much more you SA goes up. Tracking 5-10 bandits isn't a problem.

When you say you went back to a simplified model does that mean you don't fly full switch?

If that's true it's time to take off the training wheels. Flying full switch is much more rewarding than a lot of the circus AirQuake stuff we normally see. It becomes much more fun.

But hey thats just my opinion

*Buzzsaw*
11-17-2008, 11:47 PM
Salute

Amazing display of gunnery skill. This takes HOURS AND HOURS of practice.

I used to be close to this good a long time ago, when I didn't have to wear those funny round glass things in front of my eyes, and when I had way too much time on my hands... but not now...

The FW-190 is probably the most dangerous aircraft in the game, if you survey the whole length of the war. Overall, the best aircraft period, is the 1944 190D-9.

The combination of firepower, speed, and high speed maneuverability gives the 190's advantages which cannot be matched by any other aircraft, with perhaps the exception of the Tempest in late war matchups.

But of course, you need to know how to fly the 190... This guy does, in spades.

K_Freddie
11-18-2008, 05:23 AM
I will link one of my tracks in a heavy DF and you will see how much more you SA goes up. Tracking 5-10 bandits isn't a problem.

When you say you went back to a simplified model does that mean you don't fly full switch?

If that's true it's time to take off the training wheels. Flying full switch is much more rewarding than a lot of the circus AirQuake stuff we normally see. It becomes much more fun.

But hey thats just my opinion
No problem :)... I'm getting ready for 6DOF and Bob SOW (in 2 weeks I believe :grin:)

Simplified model with regard to all the controls, Been doing 'full switch' for longgg time. Cannot fly anything else as I get pounded.
I thought I'd give an open Cpit server a go some time ago, for old times sake. I just couldn't crack it and got blown away every time. :!::rolleyes:

T}{OR
11-18-2008, 06:26 AM
Anyone can kill with the 50s as well. Question for you... Have you ever flown the FW?



I consider my self to be more of a FW driver more on the Anton side of things but I can certainly do well in the 51s and the 47. My favorite ride is the MKIII Mustang to be honest.

It's doesn't take much to transition to the 51 or 57 after flying the Anton. BTW good FWs drivers typically avoid the MK108s. The 20s hit plenty hard and carry a lot more ammo. They don't have the weight penalty either so your Anton can corner just a tad better.

The only thing I would say anyone going from a FW to a 51 would have troubles with is the Wing Shedding and the Blackout Problems.

Up high there really isn't an answer to the 47 from the German side. Running all day until your WEP runs out without overheating makes it a joy to fly. Even the top notch D9 is sucking wind up there.

What I would like to see is the Spit Drivers transition to the FW or the 109 for that matter.

I avoid 190 because it is just too easy for me to be good in it. I've been flying this game for 3 years online now and with all respect to WC, I tend to fly elsewhere. You can still find me there occasionaly, but thats when I got nothing better to do.

I agree - Dora '44 is the best late war prop plane in game. Closely matched with Tempest. However, video in my signature gives away what plane is closest to my heart. :)


I thought u where seriouse there for a sec, what, with the 1-2 .50 "longrange laser" cal hits anywhere on Fw`s wing rendering it usless and all...not to mentione PK`s 13 times on the dozen. ;)


Good joke :)

Sure, they are the best at PK-ing from far away, but for me there isn't a greater imersion killer when I see a blue laser like burst followed by someone from red team exploding.

How would you feel if we had a proper API rounds? Tell me, how is it any different then when Mustang gets hit?