CLOD Resurrection!!!!!!

[Injerin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQAhw33r4k


:)

[Bearcat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WLQAhw33r4k


:)

I'll be excited when I see a P-51 or a P-47... ;)

[theOden]

You must have meant P-40 Bearcat, amirite?
:)

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

I have to admit, that this shows to me not more than some eyecandy polishing (which I would not set to priority in spite of the nice grafics, that CloD already comes along with).
FM changings, maybe, must be seen then.

So far, I'm not impressed by the video. But future may show elselike.
I am glad, that a team is working on it. So I won't buy a dead horse, when my PC finally can run that game.



EDIT: But damn - they need a better team logo!

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

P.S.: That Hurricane, breaking apart is very strange to me! I expect something much more violent, when half a wing comes of due to Over-G. A point to adress IMHO, while they are already on FMs.

[buz13]

What's great is somebody is still hard at work on this sim.......which is an unfinished masterpiece......

Thanks to ATAG

[ElAurens]

I hope they can pull this off, but I have to admit I am utterly bored with the aircraft and scenario.

I know they need to sort the game engine out first, and am happy that this is their main focus, but for the love of virtual flying, can we please have another map, and more varied aircraft?

At least make the AI flyable.

I'd take a Gladiator, Defiant, or CR 42 any day at this point as I am bored, bored, bored, with Spits, Hurries, and 109s.

[Treetop64]

I only wish that IL-2 1946 could look that good, with the bloom effects of the glass, the self shadowing, 'n stuff.

But yeah, I agree: Team Fusion could use a better logo.

...and a different soundtrack for their vid, as the one used has proliferated on YouTube enough already...

[bf-110]

I have ... just... can't say here...

Interesting,but actually everything in CloD looks awesome to me.Unfortunately,way too awesome for my machine...:(
I hope the new BoS (and RoF soon too) can be match for it.

[MaxGunz]

If the graphics could run as a lighter load than the original, it would be worth a lot.

[Fenice_1965]

It is interesting and appreciable that someone is working on such an ambitious sim.
Unfortunately without publishers support and the capability to touch inside parts of the code it's unlikely that CLOD will be the reference point for WWII simmers like the original IL2 was.
WWII simmers are a niche. It's not good to have several empty simulations, what the community needs is a project to make the community gather around it.
I hope to be wrong but It seems difficult that they will have the opportunity to go beyond a refinement.

[ckolonko]

Need new computer. They also need to sort the size of the RAF reflector gunsight reticule.

[julien673]

Remember me Lock-on.

I was saving money for the Add on ( Top PC gaming cost .. isn t really cheap ..... ), realy up set about the end of COD

we have the map still in 1944 ... Hmmm FW190 B)

[[URU]AkeR]

So even before 3 months after CLOD´s development was cancelled we get a patch that fixes the main issues and more.

An all ppl can say is "meh" "logo is no nice" " only eye candy" ?!?!?!?!?

How about thanking the guys making a great effort to make this available for everyone?

Here is a clue, you will be able to enjoy BOS AND patched CLOD

[fruitbat]

Personally looking forward to this more than BoS, at the moment.

[MaxGunz]

AkeR;498379']So even before 3 months after CLOD´s development was cancelled we get a patch that fixes the main issues and more.

An all ppl can say is "meh" "logo is no nice" " only eye candy" ?!?!?!?!?

How about thanking the guys making a great effort to make this available for everyone?

Here is a clue, you will be able to enjoy BOS AND patched CLOD

Is thanks but I still have less PC than can run it. At this time I can barely run IL-2 and that not with full-range views. My half-decent graphics card died as life got more expensive.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

Is thanks but I still have less PC than can run it.

Same here, so I won't benefit from it. Maybe one day. But what makes me shiver is things like "HD high altitude clouds effects", "enhanced landscape and vegetation", "enhanced cockpits and refelction" etc. ... without really being able to rework deeply in game code (and I know, they are not able), using larger textures is probably all they can do, which would mean, my new PC must be even more expensive, if I want to be happy about this 'patch'. See... is CLoD really looking so badly, that these have to be priorities? I think, I see, where they are heading to.

But I grumble before I have really seen it, I know, and I shouldn't do that. Its just a supposing. I will wait with a final conclusion until I have done a honest check up - and also with thanking.

[MusseMus]

But what makes me shiver is things like "HD high altitude clouds effects", "enhanced landscape and vegetation", "enhanced cockpits and refelction" etc. ... without really being able to rework deeply in game code (and I know, they are not able)

How do you know that? It's simply not true :cool:
The first thing headlined in the video is "corrected flight models".

[Fenice_1965]

I said appreciable. Honestly thinking a great thanks is more appropriate.
I am sad that such a great motivation has markets interests against it.
None will allow Clod to compete with BOS by allowing access to inner code of the sim.

[Catseye]

Same here, so I won't benefit from it. Maybe one day. But what makes me shiver is things like "HD high altitude clouds effects", "enhanced landscape and vegetation", "enhanced cockpits and refelction" etc. ... without really being able to rework deeply in game code (and I know, they are not able), using larger textures is probably all they can do, which would mean, my new PC must be even more expensive, if I want to be happy about this 'patch'. See... is CLoD really looking so badly, that these have to be priorities? I think, I see, where they are heading to.

But I grumble before I have really seen it, I know, and I shouldn't do that. Its just a supposing. I will wait with a final conclusion until I have done a honest check up - and also with thanking.

For a guy who can't run the sim, how is it that you know so much more than anyone else about it? How is it that you know what the team priorities are? How is it that you above all others know what can and can't be done in the remodelling?

Talk is pretty cheap!

Take another careful long look at the video and pay attention to the text lines accompanying and also "listen".

[Luno13]

How do you know that? It's simply not true :cool:
The first thing headlined in the video is "corrected flight models".

The problem is how you define "Corrected". Sure, CloD has some issues, but I would like to see a changelist rather than "OMG, the Tigermoth is Ubers!"

For a guy who can't run the sim, how is it that you know so much more than anyone else about it? How is it that you know what the team priorities are? How is it that you above all others know what can and can't be done in the remodelling?

Talk is pretty cheap!

Take another careful long look at the video and pay attention to the text lines accompanying and also "listen".

The guy was a modder for Il-2 and is currently on the dev team working on Il-2. I think he knows a thing or two about code and what can or can't be done with it simply by understanding its architecture.

[ATAG_Bliss]

Other people know things about code as well ;)

[salmo]

The problem is how you define "Corrected".

Flight model 'correction' is defined as making the aircraft flight characteristics as close to published real-life specifications (at all atitudes) from the period (1940) as possible.

[MusseMus]

The problem is how you define "Corrected". Sure, CloD has some issues, but I would like to see a changelist rather than "OMG, the Tigermoth is Ubers!".

I thought the problem was that the modders where unable to "really being able to rework deeply in game code"? :cool:
Why would you assume that the only correction made to the FM is making the Tigermoth “uber”? Makes no sense....

The guy was a modder for Il-2 and is currently on the dev team working on Il-2. I think he knows a thing or two about code and what can or can't be done with it simply by understanding its architecture.

Well, just because he can't get into the code does not mean no one else can...:roll:

[JtD]

Don't get too agitated, some people are just sceptical. Nothing bad about it. Once the patch is public and folks can see what improvements are there, praise and criticism can and will be much more objective. Until then, good luck and thanks to Team Fusion! Hopefully their efforts can breathe more life into CoD.

Will it be available through steam?

[salmo]

<snip>Will it be available through steam?

No, it will be a seperate DL with it's own installer.

[MaxGunz]

Not that I will get it because I -still- can't run it but please consider putting up some pars for the DL if it's big? Some day, the community should learn to use par files to verify and fix corrupt DL's.

[vpmedia]

Its very true what most say that CoD can be only popular if max hardware requirements are not higher than the average users PC (we will get there in 1-2 years). But this is the first patch, they probably fixed what they could fix fast.
You can not know what other upgrade projects are going on in the background.
They probably could use some encouragement, not useless remarks about their logo etc ;)

[CWMV]

It certainly sounds like they have their priorities straight though, fixing the FMs first.
I believe I read something about looking at netcose after first patch release? Not sure what that's about.

[RPS69]

Nice job Atag.
Still I undertand Caspar misgievings. CloD is a sim that is exageratedly on the useless detail side.
Even so, I think that Atag's group are just flexing their muscles, and sharing their first approach on the sim modding/coding?. I believe they are extremely happy with their progress, so lets see what they can do, and open the fireworks later.
Best wishes to Atag, and a lot of patience on elevating yourselves to the godlike status on il2 world. (Everything wrong will be your fault now!) :P

[GF_Mastiff]

lol Luno13 is a IL2 Clod Heretic...

[aus3620]

FM/DM in patch one then Netcode in patch two would be a dream come true.

IMHO you don't need a plethora of planes and maps. If the current stable of aircraft (red and blue) can be modelled accurately as possible (obviously this will never be to the satisfaction of everyone!) it will be a giant step forward.

Then the netcode. If AI etc are fixed it will be an outstanding achievement.

Good luck to Team Fusion with the project.

[MaxGunz]

(obviously this will never be to the satisfaction of everyone!)

Meaning never unless "everyone" is a small group.

[EJGr.Ost_Caspar]

The guy was a modder for Il-2 and is currently on the dev team working on Il-2. I think he knows a thing or two about code and what can or can't be done with it simply by understanding its architecture.

Thanks for the backup, but I would like to refine a thing.
I never was a modder - I was 3rd party modeler for Oleg and Ilya years before modding started. That means, I worked with offical IL-2 and CloD tools and was teached by 1CMaddox guys how to do things right. I'm in DT now, yes, and I think it is a good place there, because in there, there are a few with a similar story like me. I literally even have the tools and possibility to do, what Team Fusion still is not able to. So I maybe can judge it a bit.
I'm sceptic, yes, but I have my reasons (mostly becasue of the dramatic action movie). Mysticpuma is a brilliant move maker, but for an announcement, it is too much shining and too less being in there. IMHO.
I realize now, I don't have a problem with the Team Fusion, but mainly with the movie - furthermore, as I was convinced by a (to me) reliable person, who told me, that there is more quality in the work, than the movie tells me.

So I am quite positive, that this will be an interesting development. And maybe I even will help some day, if possible. But before that, I have to buy CloD myself.

Good luck for them from me too!

P.S.: I still think, they need a better logo. That said as a designated logo designer. :D

[Luno13]

lol Luno13 is a IL2 Clod Heretic...

I'm flattered...I think?

I'm not sure what you mean by that.

Thanks for the backup, but I would like to refine a thing.

You guys all look the same, so I got you mixed up. ;) Anyway, you have credentials, and as a former beta-tester, I have an idea of how hard the work is that the team does.

[Plane-Eater]

well, just because he can't get into the code does not mean no one else can...:roll:

compiled binaries do not work that way.

Goodnight!




;)

[MusseMus]

compiled binaries do not work that way.

Goodnight!




;)

Well...you'll see soon ;)

[MusseMus]

compiled binaries do not work that way.

Goodnight!

;)

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=39005
:cool:

[Mustang]

The Clod was officially abandoned. But We saw the success of his latest official patch.

I bought it in December year 2012- 10,000 sales in steam.
Now close to 15000 - Sales in steam.

Now we have a new patch/mod Fom Team Fusion,
We have some Bigs improvements, I think we should enjoys. :grin:
Really my congratulations to team fusion !! ;)

But I have to be honest I think it will be impossible, see a new P 51 or FW 190 on a new map. Is too much work to create a simple plane.
Clod was born and died in the channel. :(

[Fenice_1965]

+1
I think this is the limit of their work. We will have a refined CLOD, but no more.......
It is unlikely that they will have the instruments to create new planes or scenaros with same level of accuracy of the official product.
It is unlikely also that the owner of the rights will let this sim become a competitor to their new product (BOS).
External if not internal limits will stop the development.
If there will not be new scenarios or planes, sooner or later people will have enough of playing always almost the same game.

[ElAurens]

+1
If there will not be new scenarios or planes, sooner or later people will have enough of playing always almost the same game.


This is my issue right now.

Yes the Team Fusion thing is a great improvement, but, so what?

I'm bored to tears with the same map, same planes, and same scenario over and over again.

I like to fly Allied, and I like ground attack, so this means I have nothing to do in CloD, as the only flyable that the RAF has that carries bombs is the near useless Blenheim.

[ATAG_Bliss]

How about just a touch of patience? We've been at this 3 months and look what we've already achieved. How many YEARS did it take 46 to get all those scenarios?

I'm shocked.

[ElAurens]

Bliss, I am not being critical of the TF group or their efforts, or any individual. The TF "mod" is a good improvement, I applaud it.

I am merely saying what I feel, and why you don't see me online much anymore.

I have been online a few times since your release, and I keep trying to get back into the sim, as I still love virtual flying. But it's still CloD, with the same planes, same map, and same scenario that we have been at for what? Two years now?

I'm not blaming TF, or you, or ATAG for that. It's not your, or anyone else's fault but the original team that failed to deliver for us all.

I am in no way saying that TF should rush out a bunch of new content, I know that is not in the cards. With the level of detail of the entire sim new content is bound to be slow in coming and very small in number.

CloD was simply a bridge too far. Oleg tried to make a very large, mulitple aircraft study sim, ala DCS. Sadly I don't believe it is possible without a budget that would make EA blush. It would have been great if he could have pulled it off, but our genre is just too small, and no publisher can justify the kind of expense necessary to have the level of detail that CloD has, and sell it to so small an audience.

So, what we have is perhaps the best Spitfire I/II and Bf 109 E sim out there.

I'm just afraid that is all it will ever be.

No offense meant.

[Fenice_1965]

Same for me,
I really appreciate the work TF and ATAG are doing.
I find on them a sort of heroic resistance to what has been sadly imposed to our community.
I really appreciate their unbelievable passion, against a world where commercial interests have driven an highly questionable decision, giving premature death to the edge of WWII flight sims.
I am also happy to see that the launch of TF patch has been a good success.
My simpathies are all with them.
What I'm trying to express is that I'm afraid to see that they probably will have to continue this work without enough instruments to bring the simulation to what was expected to be.
In my opinion CLOD was intended to be the leading WWII sim that would recover almost all WWII simmers under one flag for years, like IL2 was.
It's hard to reach this target with instruments they are given and (probably) with opposition of commercial competitors, expecially if you want to mantain on all teathers and addons the same (or even higher) level of the commercial product.
Anyway every support from community has to be given to this really passionate group that is working for us absolutely free.

[Bobby385]

Excellent work Team Fusion and ATAG

Finally I can play this great game normally.
Even if there are 100+ players on the ATAG-server

I'm a big fan of Battle of Britain and I hope that you will continue your work

Thanks for your effort

Bobby

[CWMV]

Have to love the "I want more planes" crowd.
This is a new sim. TF demonstrated their ability with the patch. We need only give them time now.
For the time being I'm perfectly happy to play it as is.