Regular updates

[Bobb4]

To quote Oleg: "I hope once per 2-3 weeks or so .... and more close to beta - each week like in old good time with IL-2"
As it is we are getting less not more updates so Beta must be way-off then.
Just wondering if we can expect anything soon? A screenshot of a cloud will do :grin:

[waspfarmer]

Yes, it was all very exciting... Move along.

[Tree_UK]

I dont think anyone from Oleg's crew is actually reading this forum, because if they have got time to read all the arguments etc, then im sure they would have time to make a small post to dispel some of the rumors.

[HenFre]

Actually if you look at Oleg Maddox's own profile you can see that he has been logged on today at 10.38 so he still dabbles the forum from time to time. But the again it might not be him using the profile..

Any how, wish that there would come some news regarding SOW:BOB soon.. Blink, blink.. Hint, hint.. :)

[Nike-it]

Approximately the update will be on Monday.

[Tree_UK]

Which Monday?

[Icewolf]

Chuck Norris knows

[Nike-it]

Which Monday?

Next monday

[HenFre]

LOL Tree_UK, allways the skeptic one..

Thanks Nike-it. Good news indeed..

[Tree_UK]

Yeah, that is good news.

[fireflyerz]

Which Monday?


:arrow:Just got home from work , read this , and it made me laugh my tits off for about 10 seconds...:grin:

[JG52Uther]

The game formerly known as KoTs now has early ingame videos.Lets see if Oleg can match that on Monday.;)

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Could you post a link ?

[Antoninus]

Two videos at the bottom of the page:

http://www.sebuga.de/rieseofflight/rieseofflight.html

[ElAurens]

The game formerly known as KoTs now has early ingame videos.Lets see if Oleg can match that on Monday.;)

I had no idea it was a sporting match between developers to post in game footage.

You guys beg and beg for an update, and when one is promised it isn't good enough, even though you have not seen it yet, so you start demanding to see things.

You remind me of unruly children in a toy store who make a very loud fuss because they can't have every freaking toy they see.

:rolleyes:

[HenFre]

ElAurens: For gods sake, shut up..

[ElAurens]

And you are?

I have every bit as much right to voice my opinion as you children do.

Grow up.

[proton45]

And you are?

I have every bit as much right to voice my opinion as you children do.

Grow up.


I'm equally as bored of the whiners...maybe even more so with them, then with the lack of updates (and that's really sad)...

Does anyone remember how old, sad and stupid the catch phrase "Good by, you are the weakest link..." got? Does anyone remember how every numb-nut who thought they where clever would try and work it into the conversation...Well I feel the same way about "two weeks"... "two weeks".

[SlipBall]

- 4 man working on aircraft and cockpits
- 3 man at KI, FM, layout and general programming
- 3 man on the ground objects
- 2 man at graphics / effects, etc.
- 1 man, "the" Map
- 1 woman textures & buildings
- 1 man on the weather
- 1 man at the Sound


Such a small crew for the task that Oleg has charged them with. Just have patience men, I'm sure that they are doing their best

[MiniMe]

In comparison to the Crysis team very small. I heard they have 180

[Tree_UK]

- 4 man working on aircraft and cockpits
- 3 man at KI, FM, layout and general programming
- 3 man on the ground objects
- 2 man at graphics / effects, etc.
- 1 man, "the" Map
- 1 woman textures & buildings
- 1 man on the weather
- 1 man at the Sound


Such a small crew for the task that Oleg has charged them with. Just have patience men, I'm sure that they are doing their best

How many on updates? :):)

[MiniMe]

How many on updates? :):)

Maybe the should rename "Storm of War: The Battle of Britain" into

"Storm of War: The Battle of annoying customer"

[Tree_UK]

Your being to hard on yourself.

[JG52Uther]

I had no idea it was a sporting match between developers to post in game footage.

You guys beg and beg for an update, and when one is promised it isn't good enough, even though you have not seen it yet, so you start demanding to see things.

You remind me of unruly children in a toy store who make a very loud fuss because they can't have every freaking toy they see.

:rolleyes:
Was I whining? No,I was just wondering if Oleg would show anything more than the usual blue screen shots made by someone else!So,if you don't like my posts,don't bother reading them.

:rolleyes:

[ElAurens]

I would much prefer you stop posting them actually.

:twisted:

[Feuerfalke]

Maybe the should rename "Storm of War: The Battle of Britain" into

"Storm of War: The Battle of annoying customer"


Actually it's the "Battle of the annoyed customers" - The lack of good manners is surely not Olegs fault.


@ JG52Uther:
Yes, it is whining - on high standards, but it's whining. If you don't like it, don't read our shared opinion. ;)

[JG52Uther]

Enough of you idiots.People are allowed to have different opinions to you,and to be honest,you are starting to get on my tits,so just f*** o** ;)

Enjoy your 'private' forum.Only people who think they either work for Oleg,speak for Oleg,or think they actually ARE Oleg welcome here.

[Avimimus]

So, who here is holding an all night vigil awaiting news?

[Avimimus]

Enjoy your 'private' forum.Only people who think they either work for Oleg,speak for Oleg,or think they actually ARE Oleg welcome here.

What about people who think that they are "Bob's sow"?

[Feuerfalke]

Enough of you idiots.People are allowed to have different opinions to you,and to be honest,you are starting to get on my tits,so just f*** o** ;)

Enjoy your 'private' forum.Only people who think they either work for Oleg,speak for Oleg,or think they actually ARE Oleg welcome here.

http://farm2.static.flickr.com/1101/794438826_5f340c9c16.jpg

[Tree_UK]

Nice picture Feuerfalke i always knew that you were a sulky kid! ;);) I know you posted this picture of yourself because your sad that you upset JG52Uther but he will get over it, now c'mon cheer up little man all will be fine. ;);)

[Tree_UK]

Well its Monday, do i get a prize if there is no update?

[Feuerfalke]

Well its Monday, do i get a prize if there is no update?

Yeah, you can make a whining post and get my support. ;)

[fireflyerz]

Crikey , didnt realise there were so many under fives playing this game , lets see now... youve got the whingin seniors takin bites out of the whinning juniors and everyones Handbags at dawn , ok for a giggle from time to time , but its all the time now...SENIOR members... You have bin here the longest , you have the greater thread knowlege , why not put it to good use by offering guidence and advice to the newbies in a professional manner , you gain alot more peoples respect by showing restraint and offering help than you do by spitting your dummy out every time somone asks a question that youve heard a thousand times before.
1C and yourselves should be encouraging people to come here and get involved in this and the forth coming SOW not putting them off with this very childish behaviour...

Just a thought , not aimed at anyone in particular...

Ps,sorry about the spelling.

[Bobb4]

SENIOR members...
Does not take much to be a senior member on this forum? :grin:

[Feathered_IV]

I ain't seen yer member an I doon wanna. :evil:

[Monterey]

I would say...If we get an update today, everyone should just say "Thank you" to Oleg.
Criticizing whatever he posts, and asking him a ton more questions is just going to make him delay the next update even more.

If he gets a positive response to this update, then maybe we will see them more often. Here's hoping.

[Tree_UK]

Lets all practice here to make sure we get it right.....'Thank you Oleg'.

[Feuerfalke]

Okay, let me practice, too:


"Tree, I think you are absolutely right. I really couldn't agree more!"

Just preparing - hope it's good enough? :-P

[Avimimus]

We await the coming of him who's visage is like the sun.

All hail Oleg!

(?how was that?)

[fireflyerz]

Yup , thats about what I expected.

[Tree_UK]

Lighten up lads, tis all but a bit of fun. :grin:

[Bobb4]

Next monday

Sigh! :(

[JG52Uther]

Sigh! :(

lol :(

Theres still time, its not Tuesday yet.

[Feuerfalke]

Sigh! :(

That was posted on Friday ;)

[JG52Uther]

It takes time to put together some high res ingame footage so theres still hope.:)

[krz9000]

erica hartmann does not approve of whiners

-> http://myanimelist.net/character.php?id=14137

http://cdn.myanimelist.net/images/characters/5/27872.jpg

[JG52Uther]

Anime? yuk!
Who's whining now? No more debate from me,I just found my rabid fanboi hat that the dog had stolen last year.A crumb from the great Oleg every few months is all I require to sustain me.
I love you all.

[Tree_UK]

It looks like the Beta testing of the update has caused some problems and they couldn't meet the Monday deadline, they most likely had problems with the blue background.

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

In comparison to the Crysis team very small. I heard they have 180

150-200 is common for games like Crysis, Gears of War, Call of Duty 4, ect. The average development time for such games is roughly 3 years. Very expensive games to make, but of course the publisher will most likely make a profit from these mega titles. I doubt a publisher would dump so much resources into a game such as SoW for simple fact its unlikely they will get a return on it or rather a huge profit.

S!

[HenFre]

When I read the article about the visit to 1c I was under the empression that Oleg had stated, that he had the same amount off people working on the title out of house. Which brings the total up to 32 people working on SoW:BoB. Is this not correct?

[JG52Uther]

It looks like the Beta testing of the update has caused some problems and they couldn't meet the Monday deadline, they most likely had problems with the blue background.

Oh for shame Tree,for shame! tut tut tut.We'll have none of that rebellious tittle tattle here.The update will be released shortly Oleg assures me.

[ElAurens]

When I read the article about the visit to 1c I was under the empression that Oleg had stated, that he had the same amount off people working on the title out of house. Which brings the total up to 32 people working on SoW:BoB. Is this not correct?

Your are indeed correct.

[Tree_UK]

Oh for shame Tree,for shame! tut tut tut.We'll have none of that rebellious tittle tattle here.The update will be released shortly Oleg assures me.

I am sure we will get an update soon as well my comedy chum, but why did Nike make a post saying update on Monday, its pointless, he could have posted update soon or whatever. It just goes to show that nobody here truly knows anything.

[Tree_UK]

Yeah, you can make a whining post and get my support. ;)

Waiting for your support Feuerfalke.... come on son get on the Whinging bus where all is forgiven.:)

[Meusli]

This is so funny, I have been coming to this site all day waiting for the update and it hasn't come and probably won't! Hell Oleg is probably sat at his computer laughing at us after he dangled his carrot in our faces. :D

[mazex]

Well, it's 22:29 in Moscow now so there is still plenty of Monday left... I'll be here acting refresh monkey at 23:59. Have faith, and remember - A wizard is never late, nor is he early, he arrives precisely when he means to.

[JG52Uther]

I am shocked and disappointed in the lack of faith shown here.An update will come as promised 'this Monday'

[mazex]

I am shocked and disappointed in the lack of faith shown here.An update will come as promised 'this Monday'

Exactly. Young people of today have no faith - or patience. We still have more than an hour left of Moscow time and they start crying wolf!

[JG52Uther]

Even after midnight in Moscow the term 'this Monday' will still be technically correct.There are many more Mondays left this year alone.Its just like saying there will be an update 'tomorrow'.

[mazex]

Even after midnight in Moscow the term 'this Monday' will still be technically correct.There are many more Mondays left this year alone.Its just like saying there will be an update 'tomorrow'.

Exactly. An take in consideration that there may be many alternate universe. Each created by different decisions made by us weak humans. In some alternate universe SoW:BoB may actually have been released in November 2006. In that universe where only true fan bois live they are right now laughing their asses off at us right now. They have already received numerous free addons with flyable Whirlwinds, Deifants, Battles, Do 215:s, Beaufighters, Blenheims etc. Today they even got their He-59:s to celebrate us fools in this sour universe waiting for an update...

Which pill did you take by the way?

[JG52Uther]

The blue happy pill.Its working great.I'm just sat here with a big grin on my face waiting for this Monday's update.

[philip.ed]

LOL, thats a good one.:grin:
;)

So you took the blue pill...my red one gave me SoW:the complete edition. Imagine...http://www.tmxclan.com/BlueRedPill.jpg

[Tree_UK]

Maybe the update is that there will be no updates but they just forgot to update us.

[JG52Uther]

Am I the only fanboi in tonight to defend the cause? We seem to be missing a few apologists.So,direct all complaints to me please and I will see what I can do. :)

[Skarphol]

Next monday

This was posted on friday the 29th. If he has norwegian background, that would actually mean monday September 8th.
If we norwegians on friday means monday in 3 days we say "First coming monday". The monday in 10 days would be "Next monday".
I suppose Nike-it either is misinformed, or of norwegian nationality.

Skarphol

[Tree_UK]

Yes that explains it all. :confused:

[mazex]

This was posted on friday the 29th. If he has norwegian background, that would actually mean monday September 8th.
If we norwegians on friday means monday in 3 days we say "First coming monday". The monday in 10 days would be "Next monday".
I suppose Nike-it either is misinformed, or of norwegian nationality.

Skarphol

Hey! Don't come here and spoil the shift-f5 party!

Seriously though, it's the same thing in Sweden, and Russia was founded by swedes... :)

[Meusli]

Can they not just tell us that there will be no update today , so I can move on with my life!

[Roast]

Knowing Oleg the monday update will be
Two Weeks from now ;)

[Meusli]

Knowing Oleg the monday update will be
Two Weeks from now ;)

Is that two weeks from now GMT or two weeks from now Moscow time?

[Tree_UK]

Seriously though lads it is poor isn't it not to even make a small post. But hey i guess they are just soooo incredibly busy......... yawn.

[proton45]

Knowing Oleg the monday update will be
Two Weeks from now ;)


"game over man"..."you are the weakest link..."

[BadAim]

Not to burst anyones bubble, but Nike did say "approximately Monday" I figure that would include up to perhaps Wednesday.

[Supah]

The way I look at it by now is this. Say you own a business and one of your suppliers is developing a new product. You intend to buy this product however in order to use it you will need to invest in new tooling and machines for your process. That supplier however keeps missing deadlines and fails to communicate with you time and time again about the fact that he is likely going to miss a deadline, why he missed a deadline and has left you in the dark about the status of the product for years now. He's show you a couple of pictures of nuts and bolts but nothing substantial like a video of the machine in operation. When asked about updates he tells you he will show you something "In two weeks" or "Next monday" but those also come and go without them ever reliably coming up with the goods. Meanwhile other products from different manufactorers are coming out or are making important deadlines. I don't think such a supplier should be surprised to lose your business all together or atleast see a strong decline in people willing to use his product. Don't make promisses if you know you wont be able to keep them, it shows contempt for your users.

[ElAurens]

Anyone who has followed the gaming industry for more than two weeks (sorry) should know by now that deadline creep is a fact of life.

It just is.

[Tree_UK]

No excuse for no updates though.

[No145_Hatter]

For all those who decided to hit "refresh" all day.

www.eharmony.com

;)

[Bearcat]

See this post (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=47376&postcount=112)

Now I am not making excuses but....

[proton45]

See this post (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=47376&postcount=112)

Now I am not making excuses but....

Ya, I think that map got some high praise from the modding community. I believe that their where some people claiming that with that map and a few other mods "SoW BoB" was quickly becoming obsolete...

[Supah]

See this post (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=47376&postcount=112)

Now I am not making excuses but....

One could also argue that had Oleg been more forthcoming with information and kept promisses to the community more people wouldn't have felt the need to go poking around to see if they couldn't add stuff to the old game themselves.

[Skarphol]

Don't make promisses if you know you wont be able to keep them, it shows contempt for your users.

Your analogy [spelling??] is entertaining, but I don't think Oleg has given any promises for a very long time. He is using phrases like "I hope to start showing updates..." and such. Oleg is holding his cards extremely close to his chest. But he seem to be keeping what he is promising.

Skarphol

[Skoshi Tiger]

Not making excuses but ....

I may be mistaken but didn't the week long "Russian Vodka Fest Interational" start on Sunday Evening? Its a week long cultutral event to promote World wide peace and understaning!

So theres a week for the festival another 4 days sobering up. and three days to fix up all the mistakes made in the last 4 days.... hey that makes two weeks!

[Bloblast]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Bloblast
Nike-it

What about the monday BOB SOW update ??

regards

I'm waiting for Oleg, And it is his decision when to give update. According to his words, it will be today, but again I can't promise.

[Novotny]

I visit this site at least once a day and have done so more or less since it opened. I have enormous respect for Oleg and 1C, but I never really post as I never have anything worth adding to the various discussions.

I've nothing useful to say today either, but I was really looking forward to something this Monday. Just this once, I'm going to allow myself a

'WWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH'

Phew. Won't happen again - I just had to get that off my chest.

Back to lurking

[mazex]

The man is online right now viewing "Oleg's news"... :)

[Foo'bar]

...and still!

[Tree_UK]

So we could get an update today then.......... <holds breath>

[Nike-it]

I think after recent update it will be better to stop debates about the time of appearing updates. As Oleg said, they will published when ready (and from now more often:))

[Meusli]

Update as far as I am concerned is a good one! I am absolutly loving the detail of the Stuka, looks very metal like if you know what I mean.

Edit:Oh and is that Sunderland a flyable? I so hope it is :D

Edit edit:Also the shot with the BR.20 you can see the sky and ground slightly!

[Bobb4]

I am very happy

Correct me if I am wrong but is the beaufighter not carrying all it's nightfighter goodies??????
Hunting J88's at night would be awesome. Or is it an AI only plane

[Feuerfalke]

It was posted before, that SoW will be capable of using airborne radar. I guess it's just a question wether we will see that included into the first release or in later addons. But I'm pretty sure it will come. ;)

[Feuerfalke]

I think after recent update it will be better to stop debates about the time of appearing updates. As Oleg said, they will published when ready (and from now more often:))

Let's hope this message got through. I fear we'll be back to "normal" in 24 hours, though. And "normal" mood for some people = not good. :(

[mazex]

Well, the update was good. The planes are awsome but the most interesting part is that he says that they are nearly finished, and that there is an Alpha.

I agree that the Stuka is marvelous. It's almost too good ;) That especially goes with the ground vehicles. They are good enough for a high fidelity tank sim. When we strafe them in 500 km/h, we will only see the LOD 5 models so it's actually pearls before swine... I would rather have more low detail ground objects than a few of these in this extreme detail. Unless Oleg is thinking of letting us drive tanks in the future ;)

/Mazex

[Feuerfalke]

Well, the update was good. The planes are awsome but the most interesting part is that he says that they are nearly finished, and that there is an Alpha.

I agree that the Stuka is marvelous. It's almost too good ;) That especially goes with the ground vehicles. They are good enough for a high fidelity tank sim. When we strafe them in 500 km/h, we will only see the LOD 5 models so it's actually pearls before swine... I would rather have more low detail ground objects than a few of these in this extreme detail. Unless Oleg is thinking of letting us drive tanks in the future ;)

/Mazex

It was already stated that you can man FlaKs and that it is at least an option to control other groundunits later on. Considering what was said about the detailed damage-model for the ground-vehicles, I guess SoW is laying the basis for such possibilities. Considering how many Operation Flashpoint, Battlefield and JointOps players are out there, not a bad option IMHO. Doesn't mean it will come, but if it remains an option, that's only better for us ;)

Besides that, Oleg promised photorealism and he's getting pretty close. Imagine what such an engine could do for other media like documentaries or even movies!

[crazyivan1970]

:) Happy now? :D

[JG52Uther]

I am always Happy when Oleg speaks.The models look awesome.

[jurinko]

I heard that the release of the final patch 4.09 was somehow related to the existence of alpha.. ;) anyway, good news :)

[ECV56_LeChuck]

Great news, every time that I see new screenshots, always think "man, it´s gettin better and better" (just like IL-2)

[Feuerfalke]

I heard that the release of the final patch 4.09 was somehow related to the existence of alpha.. ;) anyway, good news :)

Actually it was "a certain step" reached in the development of BoB.


That this would be the Alpha-status was non-official speculation.

[Chivas]

If other aspects of this sim are as detailed as these models, I have no doubt this software could be used for CGI movies. Our hobby of trying to live out a WW2 Pilots experience will be as good as it gets on a computer screen. And much safer. ;)

[zapatista]

i am happy with the update :)

nice detail in some of the aircraft shots, and the stuka looks so real you can almost touch it !

[Tree_UK]

yes a nice update almost worth the wait ;). The vehicles are superb, lets hope they start coming thick and fast.

[Skarphol]

I think the update is fantastic! Especially the Stuka! Think of how these models will look with dynamic lighting! I'm drooling...

Only thing I didn't like all that was the part: "the final release…. Which isn’t soon really…. " I fear we are starting to talk late 2009 here. The Alpha-version has been flying since 2006. If they are using that much time on the Beta-version, then we have to be really patient. And we aren't, are we?

Skarphol

[JoeA]

I am very impressed with the latest update too.

Actually I don't think the alpha has been "ready" since 2006...remember some of the issues that took time away. CrazyIvan explained some.

Anyway hoping 4.09 will be released with the server patch soon, no reason to keep it out another year eh?

[Old_Canuck]

I am very impressed with the latest update too.

Actually I don't think the alpha has been "ready" since 2006...remember some of the issues that took time away. CrazyIvan explained some.

Anyway hoping 4.09 will be released with the server patch soon, no reason to keep it out another year eh?

Agreed, JoeA, and the price of that dual quad core rig I was looking at last year will come down even more in price so there's no worries here :cool:

[Tree_UK]

I think my money is very safe with a Easter 2010 release.

[Feuerfalke]

Are you going to buy the PC-Box-10 Version for Windows 12 or the Sony NeuralImplant-Version, Tree? I've not decided on that, yet. ;)

[Tree_UK]

I am going to wait to see what kind of score you get with 3d hologram benchmarks 2010 before i decide how to proceed. ;)

[Feuerfalke]

Good point. ;)

[BadAim]

LOL, it's amazing how the voice of the Master brings peace to Olegworld so quickly. :)

[fireflyerz]

LOL, it's amazing how the voice of the Master brings peace to Olegworld so quickly. :)

:arrow:What are you talkin about , he's way too tall to be Yoda...;)

[Bobb4]

:arrow:What are you talkin about , he's way too tall to be Yoda...;)
"Me thinks Badaim is infected by the darkside, yes me does," says Yoda.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Are you going to buy the PC-Box-10 Version for Windows 12 or the Sony NeuralImplant-Version, Tree? I've not decided on that, yet. ;)

Unfortunate for a mis-spent youth and an evil brew called "Emu Export" I think I'll only be getting a FPS of about 10 if I go for the Neural Implants. I wonder how much and Positronic replacement brain will set me back?

[Tree_UK]

Oleg has hinted that SOW will be built around the 'Monkey Island' game engine, so we should be ok with our current PC spec's, i am even considering buying it on floppy disc format so i can enjoy it on my Amiga.

[brando]

Unfortunate for a mis-spent youth and an evil brew called "Emu Export" I think I'll only be getting a FPS of about 10 if I go for the Neural Implants. I wonder how much and Positronic replacement brain will set me back?

From personal experience, about £40,000 for the most basic model. Better start saving, like yesterday! ;)

B