View Full Version : Walk Around And Flight In Real P-38
secretone
10-27-2012, 06:54 AM
This man died following his dreams. However the film he created is so good that it seems worth sharing with the community...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3nddCJbcdI
DK-nme
10-28-2012, 09:52 AM
Dead? When did he die and how?
MaxGunz
10-28-2012, 11:57 AM
http://www.avweb.com/news/safety/183014-1.html
Aviar
10-28-2012, 03:40 PM
NATIONAL TRANSPORTATION SAFETY BOARD
WASHINGTON, D.C. 20594
AIRCRAFT ACCIDENT REPORT
Accident occurred JUN-06-97 at TILLAMOOK, OR
Aircraft: Lockheed P-38L, registration: N7973
Injuries: 1 Fatal.
Probable Cause
Failure of the pilot to maintain minimum control speed (VMC), after loss of power in one engine, which resulted in a loss of aircraft control and collision with terrain. Related factors were: the pilot's improper fuel management and failure to change the fuel selector position before a fuel tank had emptied, which led to fuel starvation and loss of power in one engine; and the pilot's lack of familiarity with the aircraft, relative to single-engine minimum airspeeds.
Aviar
secretone
10-28-2012, 08:01 PM
Jeffrey Ethell made a series of warbird videos, available on youtube, which I find absolutely fascinating because the extent of my warbird experience consists of running Mr. Maddox's software on a laptop.
MaxGunz
10-29-2012, 12:16 AM
IIRC Steve Hinton was another of the pilots in the series.
When they talk about how a plane flies (easy/stable/etc), remember how skilled the person saying that is. Ditto for book quotes.
zipper
10-29-2012, 04:04 PM
IIRC Steve Hinton was another of the pilots in the series.
When they talk about how a plane flies (easy/stable/etc), remember how skilled the person saying that is. Ditto for book quotes.
Having actually talked to Steve Hinton about flying various warbirds the sense I got was when he said a particular warbird was "easy" (or "difficult") he meant for the average pilot who would be qualified to *start* flying it. Most of the pilots I know (including myself - lol) don't think any airplane they have flown is really particularly difficult for themselves (though they might think it would be for someone else) just varying in challenge. So that just means some airplanes need to be flown and others are easy. If Steve were talking about difficulty in terms of his skill practically no one but he would be able to fly these crates ... certainly not many of the tens of thousands of ~20 year old advanced trainee graduates we were kicking out in the early forties.
Just my thoughts.
MaxGunz
10-29-2012, 09:01 PM
So when Gene Gamer who has never flown a plane before and doesn't bother with little things like trim says the FM is wrong because Steve Hinton or Jeff Ethell says the real plane is very stable while Gene finds the sim version isn't for him, he's right?
BTW, those 20 year olds (and many younger than that) did go from GA to trainer to fighter. Got to get your time in tail draggers on that path nowadays, don't you? Miss out on training time and who knows what levers you forget to switch?
wheelsup_cavu
11-28-2012, 05:30 AM
IIRC Steve Hinton was another of the pilots in the series.
When they talk about how a plane flies (easy/stable/etc), remember how skilled the person saying that is. Ditto for book quotes.
Having actually talked to Steve Hinton about flying various warbirds the sense I got was when he said a particular warbird was "easy" (or "difficult") he meant for the average pilot who would be qualified to *start* flying it. Most of the pilots I know (including myself - lol) don't think any airplane they have flown is really particularly difficult for themselves (though they might think it would be for someone else) just varying in challenge. So that just means some airplanes need to be flown and others are easy. If Steve were talking about difficulty in terms of his skill practically no one but he would be able to fly these crates ... certainly not many of the tens of thousands of ~20 year old advanced trainee graduates we were kicking out in the early forties.
Just my thoughts.
I can't say I know him personally but I have had a few words with Steve in passing while doing volunteer work at Planes of Fame. Where did you meet him?
This man died following his dreams. However the film he created is so good that it seems worth sharing with the community...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y3nddCJbcdI
Seen it before but well worth another watch. :cool:
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