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Flyby
06-18-2008, 04:59 PM
Oleg,
How about an update on hardware coding? What's in? Quad core? PhysX or Havok support? I ask because I will build a new system in the near future, probably before the release of your sim. So any hints about what might give me good game play in your sim will be appreciated.
Here's a blast from the past. Remember when you used to use an email list to udpate your fans before IL2 hit the skies? Ahhh the good old days!
Flyby out

SlipBall
06-18-2008, 11:07 PM
I think that I will wait and see the reports posted by different configs..also Oleg recomends that you wait till sim release :-P

Flyby
06-19-2008, 12:23 AM
I think that I will wait and see the reports posted by different configs..also Oleg recomends that you wait till sim release :-P

I'd like to wait until the sim is released, but life goes on and another sim is on the near horizon (Black Shark, where a good card will need plenty of texture fill rate power, even on an old engine like that one). Then there's KOTS, and a few other combat flight sims coming out. If I held true to waiting until Sow_BoB comes out...well who knows when that's gonna be? I have to replace a fried system one of these days, and well it might be nice to be given a hint. Ya know? Just a little sum~n sum~n. Oleg's probably sticking to the old credo of having the most powerful desktop pc there is, then turn down the settings until you get an acceptably playable experience. So i might as well withdraw my request, and go for what I can. :(
Flyby out

Skoshi Tiger
06-19-2008, 02:51 AM
I'd like to wait until the sim is released, but life goes on and another sim is on the near horizon (Black Shark, where a good card will need plenty of texture fill rate power, even on an old engine like that one). Then there's KOTS, and a few other combat flight sims coming out. If I held true to waiting until Sow_BoB comes out...well who knows when that's gonna be? I have to replace a fried system one of these days, and well it might be nice to be given a hint. Ya know? Just a little sum~n sum~n. Oleg's probably sticking to the old credo of having the most powerful desktop pc there is, then turn down the settings until you get an acceptably playable experience. So i might as well withdraw my request, and go for what I can. :(
Flyby out

I was recently in the same situation. I just had to get a new rig. I went for the best Mother board I could afford (XfX 790i Ultra) with 2 Gigs of DDR-3 RAM (Smallest ammount I could get), a e8500 CPU (now over clocked to 3.8GHz on the stock intel cooler) and a 9800GTX Graphics card.

The idea being that latter on I could add more RAM and the fastest Quad core that I can afford, and extra graphics cards when they comes down in price and when BOB comes out.

I know the best advice when buy computer hardware if you can wait (Moores law is great for hardware buyers!) BUT at some stage you just have to bite the bullet and upgrade.

It's good to have a plan for the future!

Hopefully I've made the right choices???????

Feuerfalke
06-19-2008, 06:39 AM
You can't make the right choice. If you want the best PC available, you have to wait forever.

@99th_Flyby

You won't get an official answer, but if the best rig for BoB was the limit, I'd go for a Quadcore and a decent video-card. At the moment, I'd either get an 9800GTX like Skoshi Tiger did or wait for what ATI is coming up with, if you have the time. I'd also go for 2x2048 MB RAM and I mean fast RAM, not value RAM.

Honestly, I'd buy the same rig for IL2, too. Of course it cannot natively support 4 cores, but that really doesn't matter at all. Just dedicate IL2 to Core1, TrackIR to Core2, Teamspeak to Core3 and the other major processes to Core4.

And the PhsyX hardware? Considering the current developments, I'd save the 50bucks and wait for what will be released when BoB hits the shelves. ATM it's just good for eyecandy and I doubt that will largely change over the next months.

Flyby
06-19-2008, 11:51 AM
It seems unanimous. I'll buy the best system I can afford with an eye towards upgradability.
Flyby out

Monterey
06-19-2008, 12:39 PM
I would venture to say, that if you can run Crysis at it's highest settings, and everything is smooth and beautiful....then you should be able to run BoB just fine. My 2 cents.

Feuerfalke
06-19-2008, 12:40 PM
I would venture to say, that if you can run Crysis at it's highest settings, and everything is smooth and beautiful....then you should be able to run BoB just fine. My 2 cents.

Interesting, as there was an article released a while ago, that Crysis runs on a 400$ PC at high settings with 30-35FPS. The 2nd part will do that even without fiddling around with the settings.

Monterey
06-19-2008, 02:25 PM
Ok, what about the Grid? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j6F-5Q-68bE

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQ1urgn8gIk

This game looks awesome. The cars are beautiful. The huge crowd even reacts to the action as it happens. Very nice game. I started playing it on medium settings, but it kept locking up my system before I could even finish a lap.

Someone might use something like this for a benchmark to build their system by. If BoB looked as good as Grid, I think all would be pleased.

There is a Grid demo.

Thunderbolt56
06-19-2008, 05:01 PM
It seems unanimous. I'll buy the best system I can afford with an eye towards upgradability.
Flyby out


That's exactly what I'd recommend. I started building my current rig over a year and a half ago and was told by so many people that I should just wait until BoB comes out even then. I've never built a rig for a specific game (and never will) and ended up with a really good system that has allowed me to play all the other games I wanted to play at high settings (COD4, UT3, etc,) as well as turning up all the eye candy in this sim and have been enjoying things on it for over a year.

I built a core 2 duo E6700 (@3.2) with 2gb RAM and an 8800GTS (upgraded from a 7950GX2). It screams through everything and I haven't regretted it for even a second. Funny thing is, all those guys that recommended I wait have almost all built new rigs since then.

Build a good rig now and simply enjoy it.

X48 chipset mobo
GTX280 GPU
4gb fast DDR3 RAM (Vista), 3gb if using XP
Raptor 150GB HDD (OS)
7200.10 300GB+ for data and game installs
1KW PSU that is PCIE 2.0 compliant (with a pair of 8-pin connectors)

Put it all in a good aluminum user-friendly case and don't look back.



my .02c

Urufu_Shinjiro
06-19-2008, 05:21 PM
Interesting, as there was an article released a while ago, that Crysis runs on a 400$ PC at high settings with 30-35FPS. The 2nd part will do that even without fiddling around with the settings.

WHAT?! It takes 2 9800Gx2's just to run crysis maxed out at 1680x1050 at anything near 35fps!

Monterey
06-19-2008, 08:21 PM
Urufu, don't argue with FeuerFalke. He is the forum expert(spammer), and he is always right.

Now apologize.

and it's 1680 x 1050. :)

Monterey
06-20-2008, 03:51 AM
Boy, it sure got quiet in here.

Bobb5
06-20-2008, 06:03 AM
Boy, it sure got quiet in here.

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Optimizations made to Crytek's CryENGINE 2 will allow the upcoming sci-fi shooter follow up Crysis Warhead to run smoothly with high detail settings on cheap PCs, studio CEO Cevat Yerli has claimed.

Specifically, Yerli told German outlet PC Games that a 400 euro (roughly $620) PC could run the title, with high settings enabled, at 30 to 35 frames per second. Curiously, he did not detail the resolution at which this is possible.

http://www.shacknews.com/onearticle.x/53217

My machine runs Crysis on medium settings
8800gt
Core 2 duo
3 gig ram
at resolution 1440 x 900.
If they are entering Alpha stage now with SOW BoB the current top range system specs should do.
Running Il2 at 1440 x 900 with everything maxed out in the config file and I get frame rates of 35 to 75.
So high end machines make little difference to Il2 but hopefully SoW will make the investment worth while.
Ps I do not expect to run SoW maxed out considering Nvidia have released a whole new range of cards faster than their 9800x2


Not taking sides

JG52Uther
06-20-2008, 08:59 AM
Boy, it sure got quiet in here.

lol

proton45
06-20-2008, 03:47 PM
Boy, it sure got quiet in here.


No response from Oleg and crew yet? :)

K_Freddie
06-20-2008, 09:48 PM
A google might help..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/PhysX
Novodex started up a long time ago, but it all based on C.. which I don't like.
It should be based on ASM, which is more efficient AND faster

and http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Havok_(software)
is much the same thing..

So PhysX will be Nvidia based and Havok MSoft based (those annoying little toys like Xbox, playstation..etc :) )
Oleg is spreading his wings... but either way it looks good.
:)

Feuerfalke
06-21-2008, 09:19 AM
Urufu, don't argue with FeuerFalke. He is the forum expert(spammer), and he is always right.

Now apologize.

and it's 1680 x 1050. :)


It's soooo much easier to flame people than to actually use 5 seconds of google. There's a nice saying in Germany: If you point 1 finger at somebody else, 4 are pointing at you.

S! @ Bobb5


Title: Crysis Warhead Runs On A €400/$620,- dollar system!
Post by: Smartino on June 20, 2008, 12:16:13 AM
I got this little piece of news from a Dutch site and I translated it. What do you guys think? :D
Crysis: Warhead runs on a PC of 400 Euros = 620.16 U.S. dollars.
Crysis is known as the game which did not run that smooth, even not on high-end systems. Crysis: Warhead should not know this problem. The game tells the same story as that of Crysis, but then from the point of view of the English marine Psycho. According to Cervat Yerli, the boss of Crytek, changes to the engine, which can also be applied to Crysis have been carried out. According to Yerli it is possible for Crysis: Warhead to run on a PC that only costs €400.
The game should than be running at 30-35 frames peer second on high settings.


I think this is awesome news! I voted maybe though, cause it probable but I think the performance will be a bit lower than Cevat says... you never know though! :P


Original link: http://www.strategyinformer.com/news/1426/crysis-warhead-will-be-optimized-to-work-with-lowend-pcs

Monterey
06-21-2008, 12:32 PM
Well, if you look at my original post, I made no mention of Crysis Warhead. I mentioned the original Crysis, which as your info shows, is very hard on a high-end system. That's why I said if your system can play "Crysis" well, then I would think it's ok for BoB.

Feuerfalke
06-21-2008, 03:18 PM
Actually this news is just topping the last one, that confirmed unmodded crysis runs on a 600Euro machine in full details at stable 35FPS. ;)