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BG-09
04-15-2012, 11:37 AM
The UDSSR under Communist rule have very extensive agricultural politics!
The invasion of Germany over USSR or UDSSR, began on 22 of June 1941.
At this priod the USSR or UDSSR government used planned economy based on 5-year plans, with extensive agriciltural operations and production.
The landscape have to be VERY different from the landscape of France and England!
At the moment of the military ivasion, majority of the fields have to be ploughed, and the crops have to be seeded, with crops at their middle phase of development!
1. This means, that the german tanks have to advance through a GREEN corn a half a meter high;
2. The wheat have to be LIGHT GREEN at this moment, not YELLOW, because at this latitude it rapes LATER!
3. There have to be extensive cooperative gardens of FRUIT TREES, of diffrent kind, with a white painted trunks.
4. A lot of irigation channels full of watter.

The so called "Kolhoz", and its HUGE fields of identical crops must cover extensive maps areas. This is not Westrn Europe, This is UDSSR: "Souiz nerushinmiii, Respublic svobodniih...." WELCOME TO EASTERN EUROPE AND EURASIA in 1941...

This have to be taken in to consideration of landscape modeling in to the next chapter of the sequel The BoM:
1. Extensive fields of corn;
2. Fields of wheat;
3. Fields of beetroot;
4. Fields of cabbage;
5. Apple gardens;
6. Cherry gardens;
7. Pear gardens;
8. Plume gardens.
9. Potato fiels...how they look from 100 meters from above...?

This is the reality, and this have to be taken in to consideration. Even, a agricultural statistics from 1940 have to be checked, before the map creating process!

The scorhed earth is not yet implemented, the germans keep the agricultural production for themselves - all of the animals are not killed, but seized.

Some pictures:

https://encrypted-tbn0.google.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRu8P69n2By_YQsVX5ud6Ip9WeoUs2Hl 3mPOZA0a8rDof_geP8JpQ

https://curieibhistoryreview09.wikispaces.com/file/view/kol.jpg/69561187/kol.jpg

http://gov.cap.ru/Home/591/29-13.jpg

http://www.agidel.ru/img/2011/october/19%D0%BA%D0%BE%D0%BB%D1%85%D0%BE%D0%B7.jpg

http://myaltai.ru/history/images/h0141.jpg

http://www.lovlinskaja.ru/img/ukrup4.jpg

http://www.suhobuzimo.ru/sites/default/files/wisywig_images/%D0%B4%D0%B5%D0%B9%D0%BA%D0%B8%D0%BD.jpg

http://pribaikal.ru/uploads/pics/CRW_2627.jpg

http://www.istorya.ru/book/ww2/img/tmp1B22-67h.jpg

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcSdyu63J9r0wNqdT_fNbo15sWsReWT3K ZKbNCDpmt80Yyp1mFJw_GV-0-YN

http://www.belniva.by/ufiles/2012/01/08_14_01_2012_8_p_1.jpg

http://bse.sci-lib.com/a_pictures/19/02/221599295.jpg

http://www.vplicei.ru/muzeum/muz22.jpg

http://tku.org.ua/system/files/images/vdnh_6.png

http://gzt.md/public/img/upload/image/31(1).jpg

http://proxy10.media.online.ua/uol/r3-96257dbb1d/4ed6ce50a2944.jpg

http://chertanovo-ug.narod.ru/archiv09_10/rubr1/index.30.jpg

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highness
04-15-2012, 11:52 AM
what is "UDSSR" ?

Raggz
04-15-2012, 11:55 AM
what is "UDSSR" ?

Seems to be German for USSR.

UDSSR = Union Der Sozialistischen Sowjetrepubliken.

Google is your friend ;)

Verhängnis
04-15-2012, 11:55 AM
Any supporting pictures or documents would be great. ;)

xpzorg
04-15-2012, 01:49 PM
Extensive fields of corn, apple gardens, cherry gardens, pear gardens in northwestern and central federal districts?:) I dream about it.
There are many fields of potato and no so many fields of wheat, thats all.
Cucumbers and tomatoes in greenhouses and cabbage with beetroot in private areas.

5./JG27.Farber
04-15-2012, 01:53 PM
Scorched Earth?

BG-09
04-15-2012, 02:17 PM
Extensive fields of corn, apple gardens, cherry gardens, pear gardens in northwestern and central federal districts?:) I dream about it.
There are many fields of potato and no so many fields of wheat, thats all.
Cucumbers and tomatoes in greenhouses and cabbage with beetroot in private areas.

Under the wise governent of tovarisht Stalin everithing grows in to the north-west USSR districts... ;)

Buchon
04-15-2012, 03:02 PM
Scorched Earth?

"A scorched earth policy is the deliberate burning, destruction, and removal by an army of everything that would be useful to an enemy coming into the area."

So he mean that in the early days of the invasion the farms are not destroyed and fields burned because the Germans keep the agricultural production for themselves - all of the animals are not killed, but seized.

xpzorg
04-15-2012, 03:11 PM
About photos: I've never seen in my life stems of corn, cherry bushes and apple trees. I know that corn grows in Volgograd region etc.(southern plains). And some vine fields in Krasnodar region. As i say in moscow region and leningrad region only potato and wheat.
Flourishing agricultural industry was under Khrushchev.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7G9u0OwOaU landscape of southern russia.

Richie
04-16-2012, 03:11 PM
About photos: I've never seen in my life stems of corn, cherry bushes and apple trees. I know that corn grows in Volgograd region etc.(southern plains). And some vine fields in Krasnodar region. As i say in moscow region and leningrad region only potato and wheat.
Flourishing agricultural industry was under Khrushchev.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P7G9u0OwOaU landscape of southern russia.


This is nice but on the other videos on youtube I get the weird feeling like the aeroplanes are photoshoped on to the screen as they fly about. In my opinion the contrast between the aeroplane and it's background is too harsh. Like it has a pencil tracing around it's outline.

pixelbaron
04-16-2012, 04:14 PM
This should be the top priority for this game, especially at this time.

Not co-op.

JG26_EZ
04-16-2012, 07:44 PM
This should be the top priority for this game, especially at this time.

Not co-op.

Do me a favor and check your Private messages

BG-09
04-17-2012, 02:30 PM
The agricultural landscape is essential for the Eastern front, because the dogfights are lead at low and middle altitudes, which means that, the landscape is important, because the aircrafts camouflage must to be compatible with the landscape.
There is difference, if you are hunting for tanks, and they are on a lawn, or they are hiden in 2 meter high corn field. Thats why I talk about this landscape features. Collective farming in USSR is realy extensive, and thats why this question is essential.
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