Oleg, CrazyIvan and 1C, my first and only suggestion.

[Worf101]

I originally posted this in UbiForums but Uther suggested I post it here as you folks seem to hang out here more often.

I was flying with the Squad last night doing a Pacific Carrier Mission. We'd just taken off from out respective Carriers and were winging our Corsairs towards Pelilau (sp). Spontaneously we all remarked how beautiful the sim was and how wonderful it felt to be flying together, speaking together and fighting together in real time in so beautifully a rendered world. At this point 99th Patches remarked that "they're still playing ads for "Aces High" on T.V.?"

With his comment something crossed my mind that I'd mentioned once before. I LOVE this sim and this community, I want it to continue to grow and mature. One thing that would bring thousands of new players to this sim and potentially SOW would be a couple of ads on the History Channel during "Dogfights" or some other show, just showing realtime, in game play from this sim. It would blow peoples minds and provide an influx of interest and revenue to the flight sim community.

It would cost money, but as my daddy used to say... "sometimes you gotta spend it to make it."

Da Worfster

[4H_V-man]

I have never understood why this sim was never adverstised. I agree, a place such as the History Channel or the Military Channel would probably be the most appropriate place to do so. I firmly believe that the reason flight sims are such a niche market is because the only ones the masses are really exposed to are second or third rate attempts, not a top-notch sim like Il-2.

I don't know what the profit margin is on this sim, but it would seem that a few well-timed/placed ads on a channel with an audience almost guaranteed to be more than slightly intrigued by a great sim would be money well spent.

Great idea, Worf!

[ytareh]

I think I recall seeing ads on TV (UK Discovery /History channel?)for Pacific Fighters

[Flyfinn]

Hi..:grin:

well maybe it's too late for IL-2..but maybe if discovery channel
or history channel could do a program about develoment of ww2 sims..:-P
maybe then oleg and his team could get the credit that
they deserves.:rolleyes:
and a mixed program about coming ww2 sims like SOW..:grin:
discovery channel should take the bate and make programs about
ww2 simulators..excuse my english..;)
advertising is never wrong...:grin:

[Chivas]

Oleg has plans for the SOW engine beyond gaming, so I have no doubt they are contemplating some TV advertising, if his concept attains the appropriate cinematic level.

[nearmiss]

This isn't a new topic...

Oleg has read it all before. Think about the fact two years ago we were looking for release of SOW. Advertisement would have been wasted.

Advertising is westernized thinking, which relates to making money. I still don't think Oleg is money motivated. The man wants to make the best product and I think the money is secondary. Sure he wants to pay his people, but beyond that I believe he is very personally involved.

That is why this sim is so exceptional.

[LEXX]

99th Patches remarked that "they're still playing ads for "Aces High" on T.V.?"
Its Pay-To-Play.

[BadAim]

I don't think that advertising necessarily means that your money hungry, but it is absurdly expensive and has to be applied effectively. I'm painfully aware of this, as advertising expenses were contributory in the failure of my own buisness.

[Feathered_IV]

I was interested to see that FSX is still being advertised on big video screens in my local shopping mall. The strategy works too. I'm planning to go buy it tomorrow. :rolleyes:

If Oleg is stuck for inspiration on how best to advertise his product, I have a suggestion for him...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XdxhXOpI3yg

[mazex]

Well, I don't think that Oleg (or for that part CrazyIvan) has anything to do with ads for IL2. It's not the developer that does the advertising for a game - it's the publisher... I guess that a bargain bin title like IL2-1946 gets zip from the marketing budget at UBI nowadays.

SoW is another thing. Let's hope UBI (or whoever is publishing BoB in the end) does a good job regarding marketing of SoW:BoB. So far they have done almost nothing so I hope that someone is planning something somewhere...

Regards /Mazex

[Codex]

Well, I don't think that Oleg (or for that part CrazyIvan) has anything to do with ads for IL2. It's not the developer that does the advertising for a game - it's the publisher... I guess that a bargain bin title like IL2-1946 gets zip from the marketing budget at UBI nowadays.

SoW is another thing. Let's hope UBI (or whoever is publishing BoB in the end) does a good job regarding marketing of SoW:BoB. So far they have done almost nothing so I hope that someone is planning something somewhere...

Regards /Mazex

Oleg is developing AND publishing SoW via his own company Maddox Games, which is in partnership with 1C. Look at the top left hand logo of this forum.

[Chivas]

I hope your right Codex, but I've never seen anything to confirm that. I believe UBI is still very much involved. :(

[Codex]

I hope your right Codex, but I've never seen anything to confirm that. I believe UBI is still very much involved. :(

:oops: Yep your right Chivas. :oops:

I assumed that by Oleg no longer posting at UBI and no mention of UBI in any of the SoW video's on the Bonus 1946 DVD I assumed it would be all done via 1C. I apologise to all.

[Feuerfalke]

UBI already had a contract for releasing the SOW-series, while other games will be published by Atari outside the Russian market.

Regarding SoW, it was stated several times, that UBI put a hold on any informations about the sim, because there were several competitive products to be released. That makes it also more obvious why the little information posted here is not officially posted at the UBIZoo. At the same time, it was said that there will be a massive advertisement campaign as soon as SoW is going into the final lap and is closing in to the release. At that point it would also be impossible for competitors to salvage the information given.

Let's not forget: UBI WANTED this contract, because they knew about the success of the IL2-Series. They have a contract for all further SoW-Releases and they surely won't let this pass.

As I posted several times before: The only people who are more interested in a success of this game than us fanboys, are those who earn their money with it! ;)

[VMF-214_HaVoK]

Its the publishers job to market the game not the developers. Im sure Oleg has requested the same thing many times. Just think how many unsuspecting newbies bought the crappy sim that is always advertised during the Dogfight series.

S!

[crazyivan1970]

Oleg is developing AND publishing SoW via his own company Maddox Games, which is in partnership with 1C. Look at the top left hand logo of this forum.

That is not how it works mate.... Not free to discuss any details, sorry.

As far as advertising the product, it is really Publishers job.. But in my opinion it all boils down to the prejected numbers of sales... If it was ground based FPS game with the huge audience that sells in millions, i am sure we would see something similar to COD4, etc on TV.

[Codex]

That is not how it works mate.... Not free to discuss any details, sorry.

Already seen the error of my ways Ivan ;)