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IonicRipper
01-21-2012, 01:35 AM
I recently picked up a Logitech Attack 3 along with IL2 '46 (A bargain at 30 bucks total for both)
I had an idea for the rudder control as the Attack 3 joystick doesnt have a twist axis: I want to use the trigger as a modifier and use the x-axis to control the rudder. Unfortunately the game doesnt seem to support axis modifiers... Is there any way around this?
IonicRipper
01-22-2012, 01:21 AM
Any ideas what so ever would be very appreciated
AndyJWest
01-22-2012, 01:28 AM
I'm not quite sure what you are trying to achieve. Are you trying to use the X axis for aileron normally, and for rudder with the trigger pressed? Even if you could get it to work, I don't think you'd find that very helpful - you need to be able to use both at the same time to fly properly.
jameson
01-22-2012, 01:42 AM
Can't help with axis modifiers (no idea what they are TBH!), but you could buy another USB joystick cheaply and canabalise it to make rudder pedals and give you some more programmable buttons.
Even if your stick had a twist rudder, some planes do not have rudder trim in game as in RL, which means you have to keep it twisted against the force of a spring and this gives you wrist ache. The more you fly this way the quicker the wrist starts to ache when you fly. Having pedals increases immersion tremendously. You could fly without the rudder to start with but your shooting may suffer as a result. Good luck!
jimbop
01-22-2012, 03:41 AM
Can't help with axis modifiers (no idea what they are TBH!), but you could buy another USB joystick cheaply and canabalise it to make rudder pedals and give you some more programmable buttons.
This. Modifiers are possible but not for axes as far as I know. You should be able to get a used stick, even broken, on eBay. All you need is the controller and a Hall sensor from the local electronics shop. You could even use an axis potentiometer from the old joystick I suppose. Easy to rig up something suitable.
Or just buy some pedals or the Extreme 3D Logitech stick (very good value).
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7166/6739989627_a3fd067b48_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61319592@N06/6739989627/)
And this Hall sensor and magnet arrangement is under the metal cover in the middle:
http://farm8.staticflickr.com/7168/6739991261_b01b9d0837_m.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/61319592@N06/6739991261/)
pencon
01-23-2012, 03:28 PM
Or just buy a different joystick
Epsilon Eridani
01-25-2012, 03:11 AM
I use the attack3 as well, and for my rudder/throttle I have a second stick, RaiderPro, at my left side. Kind of like flying a crane, but the top hat on second stick, RaiderPro, gives me 8 more toggles switches a thumb length away, and the triggers another 2.
I find the buttons on base of stick are out of range to be of any use, and I keep sitting on the ones at the base of Attack3, so I disabled them, or have no settings.
This also give me two sliders, one for ele trim on attack3, and for prop pitch, on RaiderPro.
IonicRipper
01-25-2012, 11:25 PM
Or just buy a different joystick
I just bought this one im not gonna go buy different joystick
Kittle
01-26-2012, 12:18 AM
I have a slightly twisted setup. I was using a stock X-52 and having a grand old time. Well, something came loose in the joy sticks PS/2 port (best I can tell anyway, without tearing it apart) so this left me with a throttle but no stick. I had let a friend borrow my old Logitec Extreme 3D Pro to play RoF on his PC cause mine wouldn't run it. Needless to say, I had to take it back earlier then expected. So now, I use the X-52 throttle with the Extreme3DPro. I ended up with an extra axis out of all of this, since this stick has a slider. Now I have radiator, pitch, elev and rudder trim all on axis, which make flying sooo much easier. This is the best setup I've ever had, all thanks to a hardware malfunction, LoL!!!
pencon
01-26-2012, 04:07 PM
I just bought this one im not gonna go buy different joystick if you still have the receipt most places would take it back if its less than 30 days . Kind of pointless having a joystick with no rudder control.
Woke Up Dead
01-31-2012, 11:54 PM
Agree with AndyJWest, you need to be able to use both the aileron and the rudder at the same time. Here are some alternatives:
- Use the mouse-wheel, if you use the mouse to look around
- Use the keyboard left-right arrows, if your free hand is usually on the keyboard
- Use two buttons on the joystick itself for left rudder and right rudder, if your free hand is on the joystick base
None of those are better than a twist-stick or pedals, but you should find them all easier to implement than your idea.
Maico
02-07-2012, 04:36 AM
Take it back and get something with a twist rudder. Start planing your next move... Pedals, HOTAS and most importantly TIR. Good Luck!
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