View Full Version : Any other radiating method we don't know about?
Flanker1985
01-15-2012, 03:48 PM
Ever since the 4.11, the engine lights up like a christmas tree. Even if I open the radiator completely all the time. Especially LaGG-3, it will still overheat even I had 100% radiator and only 50% power. Is there any other radiating method I don't know about? Please help. I can't even fight anymore, everytime when the enemy fighter go up, I can't chase anymore. Because go up means need more power, and more power means engine on fire.
EJGr.Ost_Caspar
01-15-2012, 03:53 PM
Decrease proppitch rate to ~85% and try again. Its all about RPM now. You have to handle your engine.
K_Freddie
01-15-2012, 04:48 PM
I don't know if TD has modelled Fuel Mixture cooling effects.. ?
Flanker1985
01-15-2012, 05:03 PM
I don't know if TD has modelled Fuel Mixture cooling effects.. ?
Realistic mix? Like the COD??
+1 :)
MadBlaster
01-15-2012, 05:08 PM
I think it's been there all this time. It just wasn't being enforced and now DT has enforced it. high rpms, low fuel in = lean burn/high temps.
Treetop64
01-15-2012, 07:26 PM
I mean this respectfully, but if you're chronically overheating the LaGG-3 like that then you are fundamentally doing something wrong. The LaGG is one of the most overheat resistant planes in the game if you do things right.
Generally speaking, to get the most performance out of any engine in the sim for the longest practical time, you want to set a high manifold pressure, combined with a moderately reduced RPM, and as high a mixture as practical for a given altitude. Also, you may want to open the radiator one or two steps. Moreover, you want to fly in a manner that keeps your speed as high as possible - the more air that is blasting into the radiator for liquid-cooled engines, and through the cylinder head fins for air cooled engines, the cooler your engine will run. Again, this is a general rule of thumb for managing engines during combat in the game.
Can't stress this enough, but I highly recommend turning off HUD messages, and get used to reading the gauges to monitor the engine. With v4.11 you can do that with confidence now that the gauges show what they should show. I've said it many times and I'll say it again: the triggering of the ENGINE OVERHEAT message is way too conservative. I've long flown without HUD messages and have paid close attention to the gauges, and have gotten good performance out of the engines on warm and cold maps. Once I turned on HUD messages however, I found that the ENGINE OVERHEAT message came on far sooner than I would have otherwise started worrying about the condition of the engine. I just turned it off again and haven't used it since. If I used the ENGINE OVERHEAT message as a guide to start trimming back on engine settings, I would never get any decent performance out of the machine.
Learn to use the gauges, throttle, RPMs, manifold pressure, and radiator; not be a slave to the OVERHEAT message; practice consistently, and I promise you will get more performance out of your plane.
The overheat message doesn't care if you're 1 degree over the limit or 50. The chance to get the engine damaged with just a tiny bit of overheat is marginal, you can fly for hours without a problem. Different story if you're overheating a lot, 50° may kill your engine within a minute.
Flanker1985
01-16-2012, 12:59 PM
I mean this respectfully, but if you're chronically overheating the LaGG-3 like that then you are fundamentally doing something wrong. The LaGG is one of the most overheat resistant planes in the game if you do things right.
Generally speaking, to get the most performance out of any engine in the sim for the longest practical time, you want to set a high manifold pressure, combined with a moderately reduced RPM, and as high a mixture as practical for a given altitude. Also, you may want to open the radiator one or two steps. Moreover, you want to fly in a manner that keeps your speed as high as possible - the more air that is blasting into the radiator for liquid-cooled engines, and through the cylinder head fins for air cooled engines, the cooler your engine will run. Again, this is a general rule of thumb for managing engines during combat in the game.
Can't stress this enough, but I highly recommend turning off HUD messages, and get used to reading the gauges to monitor the engine. With v4.11 you can do that with confidence now that the gauges show what they should show. I've said it many times and I'll say it again: the triggering of the ENGINE OVERHEAT message is way too conservative. I've long flown without HUD messages and have paid close attention to the gauges, and have gotten good performance out of the engines on warm and cold maps. Once I turned on HUD messages however, I found that the ENGINE OVERHEAT message came on far sooner than I would have otherwise started worrying about the condition of the engine. I just turned it off again and haven't used it since. If I used the ENGINE OVERHEAT message as a guide to start trimming back on engine settings, I would never get any decent performance out of the machine.
Learn to use the gauges, throttle, RPMs, manifold pressure, and radiator; not be a slave to the OVERHEAT message; practice consistently, and I promise you will get more performance out of your plane.
Thanks, mate. But different plane has different overheat temperature, (MiG-3 and La-5 are 150 while LaGG-3 is about 120) and some plane has no overheat indictor light. So how do I know if I am overheating if I ture off the HUD?
By the way, can anyone tell me where are the overheat indictor light on Lavochkins and Yaks?
Jumoschwanz
01-16-2012, 02:22 PM
Even before 4.11 it helped to keep your engine rpm low in the aircraft that did not have auto pitch control, and even some that did, now it is just made more universal and realistic.
I welcome the additions 4.11 has brought, thank you to all those who have worked on them.
Thanks, mate. But different plane has different overheat temperature, (MiG-3 and La-5 are 150 while LaGG-3 is about 120) and some plane has no overheat indictor light. So how do I know if I am overheating if I ture off the HUD?
By the way, can anyone tell me where are the overheat indictor light on Lavochkins and Yaks?
Probably just have to watch your gauges.
Only issue for me is that I cant read the gauges in the Soviet AC! And even if I could Im not sure what temp each aircraft overheats at.
HarryM
01-16-2012, 03:58 PM
On early LaGG-3 it is a red light on right of panel. See the Aircraft Guide.pdf in the main il-2 folder. This guide is more useful now since it has recommended combat and cruise RPM settings for many aircraft. LaGG-3 series 4 for example:
Combat Engine Setting: 2,750 RPM Best Cruise: 2,300 RPM Economy Cruise: 2,100 RPM
Jumoschwanz
01-16-2012, 08:33 PM
Hi Flanker,
I made you a Lagg video with information about the 4.11 patch and put it up here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mBCd36CZ84&feature=youtu.be
S!
It would be handy to have the operating temperature range for each aircraft as well. I don't see anything in the guide.
[URU]BlackFox
01-18-2012, 12:38 PM
It would be handy to have the operating temperature range for each aircraft as well. I don't see anything in the guide.
+1.
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