Use3Renders=1

[Kernalklink]

Oleg,
Please PLEASE PLEASE keep this!!!! You expressed some hesitation about whether you will support multiple monitors in the sticky above so I just want to tell you how incredible IL2 looks for me. I just got the Matrox TripleHead2Go and a TrackIR. I use two nVidia 8800GTX cards in SLI. In Perfect mode I get 60 fps on three screens!!! It is the most amazing SIM experience EVER. I can not tell you how disappointed me and the other multi-screen users will be if you don't include this. You rock, dude.

[Bobb4]

Please a pic would be nice showing your system and to help motivate your arguement

[Kernalklink]

I will as soon as I build my pit. It looks like a pile of parts at the moment.

[Kernalklink]

Oleg,
Have you experienced the TripleHead 2Go? It is amazing and in my opinion an absolute "must have". Everyone should take advantage of this. You gave us peripheral vision! How could anyone NOT fly with this????? This has added what should be normal.
The main reason I am so drawn to IL2 is the immersion. Being able to form up with a group online and talk to each other is a miracle. Therefore, any part of this sim that enhances that should be fully exploited. After seeing what 3 monitors with the TrackIR does, I cant imagine flying without it. This should not be a "probably" but become "everyone use it". I am begging you Oleg, can you please make this a top priority? You will be a hero for many generations.

[RAF_Leigh]

i was looking at buying one but when oleg relese the sepcs on SOW ill go and buy me a new computer

[Snuff_Pidgeon]

it would be great if it could be used with the new curved screen technology!http://au.youtube.com/watch?v=wKuUBfSxDbE

[Feuerfalke]

Huh. :confused:

You're sure you need 3DRenders=1 for that? The idea behind TripleHead2Go is to simulate several monitors as ONE big monitor. You have only one video-cable plugged into your PC and have a new setting available for resolution that widens the desktop over all connected monitors.

3DRenders is the option for several monitors support, though, where you link 2 or more Monitors directly to your PC.

The monitor from Alienware is also used as a single monitor. The signal then gets split up in the device itself, just like the TH2G technology.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

Huh. :confused:

You're sure you need 3DRenders=1 for that? The idea behind TripleHead2Go is to simulate several monitors as ONE big monitor. You have only one video-cable plugged into your PC and have a new setting available for resolution that widens the desktop over all connected monitors.

3DRenders is the option for several monitors support, though, where you link 2 or more Monitors directly to your PC.

The monitor from Alienware is also used as a single monitor. The signal then gets split up in the device itself, just like the TH2G technology.

Actaully, all Use3Renders=1 does is make the FOV expand to incompas the two side views as well as the forward view. You can try 3renders for yourself on a single monitor, it will just look like the wings are sticking out forward of the aircraft. The TH2G just makes the use of three monitor easier, then you turn on Use3Renders=1 to make the two side monitors show the side views.

[Feuerfalke]

Actaully, all Use3Renders=1 does is make the FOV expand to incompas the two side views as well as the forward view. You can try 3renders for yourself on a single monitor, it will just look like the wings are sticking out forward of the aircraft. The TH2G just makes the use of three monitor easier, then you turn on Use3Renders=1 to make the two side monitors show the side views.

I always wondered what this setting did any left it set to 1 for years until I noticed what it was good for. I changed it to 0 but it didn't make any difference at all.

[Tata]

..... You can try 3renders for yourself on a single monitor, it will just look like the wings are sticking out forward of the aircraft. .....

Tried to change to 1, but no changes on my single monitor.

[Feuerfalke]

Tried to change to 1, but no changes on my single monitor.

I also tried it on a widescreen with no effect. Maybe Kernalklink could make some tests, cause I still think the effect is only visible on multiple-monitors connected to different video-ports.

[Urufu_Shinjiro]

I also tried it on a widescreen with no effect. Maybe Kernalklink could make some tests, cause I still think the effect is only visible on multiple-monitors connected to different video-ports.


I'm sorry, I forgot to include that you have to set the resolution in conf.ini, set to 1024x256 (with three monitors you would set it to 3072x768 or a factor there of), that should allow you to see what I'm talking about.

[striker85]

I have posted instructions on how to try out Use3Renders on a single monitor in the link below. You need to do more than just set Use3Renders=1 to get this to work.

If you post your current [window] section of your conf.ini I could modify it here for you if you want to see it on your system.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/4521077615?r=8401041815#8401041815


Keep in mind that on a single monitor, even widescreen, that it will not really be too usable.

It is intended to create three different 4:3 aspect ratio windows (ie like 3 views each 1024x768 ), each representing a different view on each monitor. To fit that on a single monitor means the height will be very small.

It doesn't draw a view directly to each monitor, it just draws a view that is 3 times as wide as normal and each 1/3 of the picture represents a different view. It requires hardware like the TH2G or software like UltraMon that sends 1/3 of the view to each monitor. Because the view was draw in 1/3 sections and the TH2G sends 1/3 of the view to each monitor it gives the perception that each monitor has a different view.

But you can display this 3 view on a single monitor, Il-2 doesn't know or care, it's just that as I said before it is not really that usable on a single monitor because it maintains a 4:3 aspect ratio so 3 views across a single monitor means that the height is really small.

[Feuerfalke]

I have posted instructions on how to try out Use3Renders on a single monitor in the link below. You need to do more than just set Use3Renders=1 to get this to work.

If you post your current [window] section of your conf.ini I could modify it here for you if you want to see it on your system.

http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/49310655/m/4521077615?r=8401041815#8401041815


Keep in mind that on a single monitor, even widescreen, that it will not really be too usable.

It is intended to create three different 4:3 aspect ratio windows (ie like 3 views each 1024x768 ), each representing a different view on each monitor. To fit that on a single monitor means the height will be very small.

It doesn't draw a view directly to each monitor, it just draws a view that is 3 times as wide as normal and each 1/3 of the picture represents a different view. It requires hardware like the TH2G or software like UltraMon that sends 1/3 of the view to each monitor. Because the view was draw in 1/3 sections and the TH2G sends 1/3 of the view to each monitor it gives the perception that each monitor has a different view.

But you can display this 3 view on a single monitor, Il-2 doesn't know or care, it's just that as I said before it is not really that usable on a single monitor because it maintains a 4:3 aspect ratio so 3 views across a single monitor means that the height is really small.

Good explanation. Thanks for the link.

I still think, though, that you can a much better view when turning the monitor by 90degrees and the desktop likewise. While you practically have the same width as normal, you can view the instrument panel and mirror without moving your head. Looking around it also gives you a better view of the above contacts, which usually are the most dangerous. ;)

[Kernalklink]

I encourage anyone reading this to test out this setup at least once. Use striker85's link and instructions from above post. At first, it may look crazy but if you look closely at the view that becomes available, it will stun you. You have THREE TIMES more view of the game!!!! Doesn't any one get the significance of this????? You have absolute clear peripheral view to each side. It is as if you took off goggles. You can see everything to each side of you, your wing man, enemy planes, and also you can see directly behind you when you look even slightly to one side. Anyone flying with this has a HUGE advantage over those who do not but it is legal. Hold your hands up to your eyes and make cups on the sides of your eyes like you have on goggles. That is how you fly now with one monitor. Now take your hands away and now you see what use3renders is like with 3 monitors. This makes this SIM very close to real life view because of gaining peripheral vision that any pilot would have. Without touching your mouse or moving your head you can see evreything on the sides that would be cut off at the edge of your monitor. Everyone seems to think that this expands your view of what you already see on one screen but what it does is ADD two more screens of the game. I cant explain any better but you MUST try this. You will NEVER go back to one monitor again. Better yet, go here and study the screen. http://www.matrox.com/graphics/surroundgaming/en/games/supported/first_eagles/

[Kernalklink]

Feuerfalke
I am not sure what you mean by 90º. Can you explain? Thanks.

[Feuerfalke]

Feuerfalke
I am not sure what you mean by 90º. Can you explain? Thanks.

You turn your monitor on the side. :grin:

You can change your desktop accordingly from the driver settings. Just check out the nView-Options for nVidia or the rotating desktop-Options for ATI/AMD and there you go. You have the full size of your monitor, but standing on its side.
Now change the settings in your Ini from

width=1280
height=1024

to

width=1024
height=1280

and see what happens when you start the game. I had the feeling that especially in the 109 or other cockpits with limited view, this gives you a whole new perspective. It's also very immersive on the He111.

PS: Be sure to have SaveAspect set to "0"!