Forecasted Release Date of Full 4.09

[Tinman86]

Do you have an estimated release date for full 4.09 and the server side version?........please?

[DuxCorvan]

Two weeks. Be sure. :mrgreen:

[crazyivan1970]

Two weeks doesn't fly anymore Dux ;)

[Tvrdi]

Two weeks doesn't fly anymore Dux ;)

your right...now, silence is new answer...for everything

[Gryphon_]

I'd rather wait for 4.09 than have 1C release a version now that can be immediately hacked.

The only thing you cant do with the beta version is run a dedicated server. The online community really needs the 4.09 dedicated server to provide much better security against hacks. That will take time, and we are prepared to wait for it.

Thank you Oleg and Team for your continuing support to this excellent product. We are right behind you, and will be patient.

[DerAlte]

I'd rather wait for 4.09 than have 1C release a version now that can be immediately hacked.

The only thing you cant do with the beta version is run a dedicated server. The online community really needs the 4.09 dedicated server to provide much better security against hacks. That will take time, and we are prepared to wait for it.

Thank you Oleg and Team for your continuing support to this excellent product. We are right behind you, and will be patient.

Never going to happen! I know from at least 2 Russian and 1 German group that are going to "Hack" it as you say, just to piss alot of people off on this forum and the Zoo. The so-called "Anti-modder" crowd claiming that everyone using a mod is a cheater, has made alot of bad blood.

I always said, if some of the big mouths here would have been shut-up at the start, and not let to ramble on, things would have been different. Just after most people thought the "scare" was over, you have to write such crap. Get real dude, as Bearcat has been saying, the deed is done and nobody is going to undo it. 1C has more important things to do, (SoW rings a bell maybe?) as to worry about the "maybe", "possible", "the sky is falling", "my game is ruined...wagggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh", crowd.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.................... maybe you should play "Barbies Pony Farm" :D


DerAlte

[Chivas]

Well done Alt...that post will help calm down the whole situation. I'll try and do my part aswell. lol

I am surprised that posts regarding the hacks weren't immediately deleted, right from the start. It would have slowed down the whole hack process and prevented alot of bad blood in this forum. I would call them a mod if it were sanctioned by the owner of the software, but until then its a hack. They arn't even good hacks...I guess one mans treasure is another mans garbage.

[stalkervision]

"Barbies pony farm" has been hacked. It is now "Barbies Cat House" A much more adult entertaining version. :mrgreen:


see why mods can be a good thing.. ! :)

[kristorf]

Oh well, here we go again............................................. ..

[robtek]

Never going to happen! I know from at least 2 Russian and 1 German group that are going to "Hack" it as you say, just to piss alot of people off on this forum and the Zoo. The so-called "Anti-modder" crowd claiming that everyone using a mod is a cheater, has made alot of bad blood.

I always said, if some of the big mouths here would have been shut-up at the start, and not let to ramble on, things would have been different. Just after most people thought the "scare" was over, you have to write such crap. Get real dude, as Bearcat has been saying, the deed is done and nobody is going to undo it. 1C has more important things to do, (SoW rings a bell maybe?) as to worry about the "maybe", "possible", "the sky is falling", "my game is ruined...wagggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh", crowd.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.................... maybe you should play "Barbies Pony Farm" :D


DerAlte

So it´s the "anti-hacker-crowd" who are responsible that 4.09 might be hacked?
It needs a really warped mind to follow that reasoning.
Just as warped as to piss the people off by proving they were right from the start.
And by the way, never was it said that every hack-user is a cheater.
It was said that every hack-user MIGHT be a cheater as there is no way to tell the difference in a online-game. If the cap fits, wear it.

Sorry for ot

[Rama]

And DerAlte gets the oscar in a remake of "The fireworker fuelling the fire"

Nice job...

[Feuerfalke]

And DerAlte gets the oscar in a remake of "The fireworker fuelling the fire"

Nice job...


Who is the greater fool? The fool or the follow who follows him?
Obi-Wan Kenobi

:rolleyes:


Some people should really calm down. And looking at the responses I don't think of DerAlte primarily....



Back to topic:
I think it will take another few weeks. Considering the issues found with the new .dlls, the little tweaking-stuff and the current timetable I guess it will take a while to polish things up.

[GF_Mastiff]

Who is the greater fool? The fool or the follow who follows him?
Obi-Wan Kenobi

:rolleyes:


Some people should really calm down. And looking at the responses I don't think of DerAlte primarily....



Back to topic:
I think it will take another few weeks. Considering the issues found with the new .dlls, the little tweaking-stuff and the current timetable I guess it will take a while to polish things up.

It's "Who is the greater fool? The fool or the one who follows him?
Obi-Wan Kenobi

[Recon]

Hi, my first post on this new forum.

The lack of a dedicated server beta patch has me concerned: ie. we host a 90+ pilot mission as part of Forgotten Skies 3 times a week. We've pushed the server to the upper limits (we reached something like 105-110 pilots).

If I want to test the stability and weed out bugs for a patch test (assuming this is why it is beta?), then it would seem to me, you'd want to test the server components.

Granted, folks still fly coops, but most online flying today is done on dedicated servers.

I would like to suggest that a dedicated server 4.09 beta be released prior to the official release in order to properly test the client.

Having a bug free, stable release is important to me.

Thank you

[Feuerfalke]

It's "Who is the greater fool? The fool or the one who follows him?
Obi-Wan Kenobi

Yeah, you certainly got my point 100%. :rolleyes:

[OldBuzzard]

... It was said that every hack-user MIGHT be a cheater as there is no way to tell the difference in a online-game. If the cap fits, wear it ...

Any one with a Prt Scr key on their keyboard MIGHT be a cheater too. :rolleyes:

99.99% of those that might/will use the mod to cheat online, are ALREADY cheating.

[Feuerfalke]

Hi, my first post on this new forum.

The lack of a dedicated server beta patch has me concerned: ie. we host a 90+ pilot mission as part of Forgotten Skies 3 times a week. We've pushed the server to the upper limits (we reached something like 105-110 pilots).

If I want to test the stability and weed out bugs for a patch test (assuming this is why it is beta?), then it would seem to me, you'd want to test the server components.

Granted, folks still fly coops, but most online flying today is done on dedicated servers.

I would like to suggest that a dedicated server 4.09 beta be released prior to the official release in order to properly test the client.

Having a bug free, stable release is important to me.

Thank you


Good point. This is just Beta1, though. Maybe it was primarily focused on testing the combination of the new dlls, the increased visibility-range and the new default-skins. I wouldn't wonder if there is a next beta released before the full 4.09.

[JG52Uther]

Have 1C ever released a beta server patch for il2?

[CrazySchmidt]

just to piss alot of people off on this forum and the Zoo.

This is the Zoo, thanks to many of the responses in this thread and many more just like it in recent weeks.

[Avimimus]

Paralay is trying to estimate the first flights of the PAKFA using numerology ...you may want to contact him.

[kristorf]

Why is it that such a simple question can be attacked by a group of morons (from both sides) that will flame/argue/slag off/slate ANYONES view that is not their own, for gods sake leave it.

Mods, please put a stop to this cr*p or the IL2 section of the 1C site will be reduced to a complete waste of time

[DerAlte]

And DerAlte gets the oscar in a remake of "The fireworker fuelling the fire"

Nice job...

Thank you, thank you. I wish to thank all my fans, my hairdresser, my dogsitter, and all the millions of people who are waiting to insult me! :D

I wish to thank the "Anti-mod, anti-pasta, anti-everything" crowd for making this possible! Without you I would not have my laugh-of-the-day! Thank you.....KISS, KISS, KISS !!! :D


DerAlte

Winner of the Oscar for "Best Remake"

[JG52Uther]

Why is it that such a simple question can be attacked by a group of morons (from both sides) that will flame/argue/slag off/slate ANYONES view that is not their own, for gods sake leave it.

Mods, please put a stop to this cr*p or the IL2 section of the 1C site will be reduced to a complete waste of time

+1000

[Waldo.Pepper]

"Barbies pony farm" has been hacked. It is now "Barbies Cat House" A much more adult entertaining version. :mrgreen:


see why mods can be a good thing.. ! :)

Now this is a post worthy of praise! [Barbies Cat House!] LOL

[Tinman86]

OH-MY-GOD

I HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THREADS COMPLETELY HI-JACKED IN MY ENTIRE FRIGGIN LIFE!
AND YOU GUYS HAVE THE NERVE TO BE UPSET BECAUSE THEY NEVER ANSWER YOU?! YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF ARGUMENTATIVE FREAKS....AAAAAARRRRRRRGH!

I STARTED THIS THREAD WITH A VERY BASIC QUESTION AND YOU HAVE COMPLETELY RUINED ANY OPPORTUNITY OF GETTING A VERY BASIC ANSWER.

1C, CAN YOU PLEASE START AN "ARGUING IDIOTS" THREAD SO THESE IMMATURE TWITS CAN BEAT THE LIFE OUT OF EACH OTHER THERE? THIS WAY.....MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE MATURE, SIMPLE QUESTIONS CAN GET QUICK SIMPLE ANSWERS?

[RS]Lazarus

[kristorf]

OH-MY-GOD

I HAVE NEVER SEEN MORE THREADS COMPLETELY HI-JACKED IN MY ENTIRE FRIGGIN LIFE!
AND YOU GUYS HAVE THE NERVE TO BE UPSET BECAUSE THEY NEVER ANSWER YOU?! YOU GUYS ARE A BUNCH OF ARGUMENTATIVE FREAKS....AAAAAARRRRRRRGH!

I STARTED THIS THREAD WITH A VERY BASIC QUESTION AND YOU HAVE COMPLETELY RUINED ANY OPPORTUNITY OF GETTING A VERY BASIC ANSWER.

1C, CAN YOU PLEASE START AN "ARGUING IDIOTS" THREAD SO THESE IMMATURE TWITS CAN BEAT THE LIFE OUT OF EACH OTHER THERE? THIS WAY.....MAYBE, JUST MAYBE, THOSE OF US WHO HAVE MATURE, SIMPLE QUESTIONS CAN GET QUICK SIMPLE ANSWERS?

[RS]Lazarus


Tinman for President,
Serious though, my thoughts exactly.

I wonder if 1C are regretting opening an IL2 forum, I would be, seems there are people who cannot grow up or accept other people have an opinion

[brando]

... AN "ARGUING IDIOTS" THREAD ...



I totally agree! Even an entire AI forum where this issue can be fought over by some and completely ignored by others. It's small wonder that responses from the company have become scarce compared to the early to mid-term days in the ORR.
Apart from the heavy burden of creating a new sim, who would keep going to a place where their integrity and ability was constantly attacked? Not me, for sure.

B

[BSS_Sniper]

Why is it that such a simple question can be attacked by a group of morons (from both sides) that will flame/argue/slag off/slate ANYONES view that is not their own, for gods sake leave it.

Mods, please put a stop to this cr*p or the IL2 section of the 1C site will be reduced to a complete waste of time

Good luck with that. Maybe after it reaches 100 pages a mod may stop by, if they feel like it.

[JG52Uther]

The best way to do it is to pm Evgeny.Another way is to pm CrazyIvan (he will love me for this!) and ask him to point out the problem to Evgeny.Its worked for me in the past here.
Remember Evgeny is I believe Russian,and moderates the whole 1C forum,so some things might get past him.There needs to be more moderators here,or every thread risks going south,and a lot of people just will not bother,and that would be a shame.

[GF_Mastiff]

OT: when is the Full version expected. 4.09m

[Viking]

The correct answer is that nobody, probably not even 1C, knows today. Wait and see.

And….No! We don’t need moderators: if we all learn to ignore flamers and ignorant, malicious posters and we will be just fine.

Constrain yourselves!

Viking

[Feuerfalke]

And….No! We don’t need moderators: if we all learn to ignore flamers and ignorant, malicious posters and we will be just fine.



Sometimes I wish we had UBI-Zoos ThumbsUp-smiley here...

[Bearcat]

So it´s the "anti-hacker-crowd" who are responsible that 4.09 might be hacked?
It needs a really warped mind to follow that reasoning.
Just as warped as to piss the people off by proving they were right from the start.
And by the way, never was it said that every hack-user is a cheater.
It was said that every hack-user MIGHT be a cheater as there is no way to tell the difference in a online-game. If the cap fits, wear it.

Sorry for ot

I think the better way of saying that that could have slowed the growth of the venom bush would have been... every cheater will use a hack if it is available... and before the sim was hacked they were not available... which is the point... but there were a lot of people who said some really stupid things when this first jumped off... there is more than enough blame for the schism to go around.. but the battle was IMO lost once the sim was hacked... all the rest has been kicking and screaming.. and unless either 1C or some community member (and I doubt it will be really viable without 1C's help) can come up with a server side protection for those who want one and those who will respect one.. and there are those who use mods but will respect a server admin's request to not have mods on their server, the spectre of cheating with FDW hacks will always be there... and the same mentality that will make a person say "Yeah well I'm going to hack it just to piss you off..." is the same mentality that has made a fortune for companies like McCaffe & Norton.... etc... it is the same mentality that will introduce a virus into cyberspace.. and no matter what you cant change the messed up side of human nature... Those kinds of folks will always be around. It wouldnt surprise me if this whole thing started because someone got pissed at 1C....

Water under the bridge now for sure...

[13th Hsqn Protos]

lol at you people.

First - DEAD GAME

Second - This game has been hacked almost since day one

Third - Oleg doesnt give a rats ass about any of you. He laughs at you forum flyboys.

Wait for BoB but don't hold your breath - its a business and they only care about making money. They could care less about your 'loyalty'.

Get a grip and give the multi thousand post counts a break. That is all.

[Chivas]

Sure No...Oleg has a passion for flight sims and it shows in his commitment and attention to detail. Hopefully the Maddox team can make good money at it. Our hobby depends on it.

[334th_Gazoo0]

Sure No...Oleg has a passion for flight sims and it shows in his commitment and attention to detail. Hopefully the Maddox team can make good money at it. Our hobby depends on it.

Ahhh the Holy Grail.... To make lots of money doing what one loves.

I hope Oleg and his crew reap great fruit from their labors!
They have brought a great deal of pleasure to many people.
They deserve the best.

To the previous poster... Could this be more an indication of your own life, and your relationships with others that makes you feel that Oleg and his people dont care?

I know that I couldn't create something as complex and far reaching as this sim, If I didn't care about what I was doing.. Could you?

[II./JG1_Wilcke]

Never going to happen! I know from at least 2 Russian and 1 German group that are going to "Hack" it as you say, just to piss alot of people off on this forum and the Zoo. The so-called "Anti-modder" crowd claiming that everyone using a mod is a cheater, has made alot of bad blood.

I always said, if some of the big mouths here would have been shut-up at the start, and not let to ramble on, things would have been different. Just after most people thought the "scare" was over, you have to write such crap. Get real dude, as Bearcat has been saying, the deed is done and nobody is going to undo it. 1C has more important things to do, (SoW rings a bell maybe?) as to worry about the "maybe", "possible", "the sky is falling", "my game is ruined...wagggggggggghhhhhhhhhhh", crowd.

Tsk, tsk, tsk.................... maybe you should play "Barbies Pony Farm" :D


DerAlte

Wait a minute...now you are blaming folks that followed the EULA that went along with the software they purchased/licensed to run on their PC? Just because my Big Mouth was not heard does not mean that I give tacit approval to any Mod or Hack of IL-2.

If 1C can make 4.09 more robust and un-hackable then so be it...I am all for that. Your post is insulting to many fine people that fly IL-2 online and offline. The vocal few that inhabit these forums are not a majority by any means....they just post a lot. Oh and my Barbie Farm is just fine, thank you very much!

IBTL!

[II./JG1_Wilcke]

lol at you people.

First - DEAD GAME

Second - This game has been hacked almost since day one

Third - Oleg doesnt give a rats ass about any of you. He laughs at you forum flyboys.

Wait for BoB but don't hold your breath - its a business and they only care about making money. They could care less about your 'loyalty'.

Get a grip and give the multi thousand post counts a break. That is all.

I am really sad for you......if this is how you go about life; is it worth it?

[GF_Mastiff]

Ahhh the Holy Grail.... To make lots of money doing what one loves.

I hope Oleg and his crew reap great fruit from their labors!
They have brought a great deal of pleasure to many people.
They deserve the best.

To the previous poster... Could this be more an indication of your own life, and your relationships with others that makes you feel that Oleg and his people dont care?

I know that I couldn't create something as complex and far reaching as this sim, If I didn't care about what I was doing.. Could you?

unfortunately Oleg and Company don't reap the great benefits the 1c Company does and the owners, their just paid programmers.

[Chivas]

I don't believe that Oleg is just a paid programmer. He has his own company that develops and owns the sim. I would assume UBI and/or IC pay alot of the develpment costs for the right to distribute and percentage of the profit. It should be a win/win, but I have no idea on how the profits are shared. Just guessing.

[DerAlte]

Wait a minute...now you are blaming folks that followed the EULA that went along with the software they purchased/licensed to run on their PC? Just because my Big Mouth was not heard does not mean that I give tacit approval to any Mod or Hack of IL-2.

If 1C can make 4.09 more robust and un-hackable then so be it...I am all for that. Your post is insulting to many fine people that fly IL-2 online and offline. The vocal few that inhabit these forums are not a majority by any means....they just post a lot. Oh and my Barbie Farm is just fine, thank you very much!

IBTL!

Yo dude, can with the EULA crap. That old, very old, argument does not float any more. The "Holy EULA" will not hold up in about 95% of the world courts. It is just to scare the unwashed masses thats all.

I could care less if YOU or anybody else approves of the Mod/hack. Who died and made you King of the World? Insulting? Why is it insulting, BTW, if you don't like my post, well.....tough, suck it in and move along.

Were was the "Outrage" when some dipshit forgot to put a very simple -TM next to a planes name when PF came out? That amounted to "stealing" someone else's property. No, it was the "evil American company and lawyers" fault! Man, you people crack me up.

It has been stated, geez I don't know how many times, 4.09 will NOT, get it, NOT fix the Mod/hack. So, all the "fine people" I have insulted just might as well get over it. 1C and Maddox have better things to do..........BoB.....duh!!! Get it?

Besides, just how do you think it will take to break it again? You must remember, it was broken as we know it today by the Russian community. These guys have spent years braking codes and stuff during the cold war. They are some of the best in the world. They have been "reverse-engineering" for years dude.

DerAlte

[Asheshouse]

So when is the full version of 4.09 due to be released?

I had hoped to read some news but this thread seems to have gone completely off the rails.

[Feuerfalke]

So when is the full version of 4.09 due to be released?

I had hoped to read some news but this thread seems to have gone completely off the rails.

Yeah, if you don't feed the Neanderthals they begin to lacerate each other. If you feed them, they will lacerate each other because they think the food was made for one side of the pit. :rolleyes:

I guess it's a few weeks, still.