Help with Targets

[ECV56_etendar]

Hola:

I`m a mission maker in the ECV56 argentine squadron.
Actualli I work in Fog of War maps, Force on Force.
The TgT are a problem for mi.
Don`t entend how work this. I only can put Tgt for 1 side (red or Blue), for example can`t select destroy ground for blue and for red, have to edit for 1 side destroy and defense. This is the problem, the WON no work as I wont, the time out for the Tgt no works as I wont.
I try with primary, secondary and hiden, with time out in alll cases and I do not get good results.
I need the WON when the Tgt is accomplished and give victory to a side.

Saludos.

[Blackdog_kt]

If i understand correctly, you want to set attack targets for both teams?

I had the same problem a few months ago. It turns out that this is a limitation in the game engine, only one side can have attack objectives in a coop.

I don't know if using the MDF and setting it up as a DF map will solve this, but last time i tried it on a modded install it didn't work in coops.

[ECV56_etendar]

Blackdog_kt, this is my question. I work in tgt in FoW, if U do this is a limitation of the sim.

Tks.

[Blackdog_kt]

Yes, i think it's a limitation of the game engine.

[28_Condor]

S!

Hi Etendar

Its easy: you choose ONE side for targets, defence and attack, the program will unsderstand that the other side has a target to attack, then a symbol for defence will appear on the chosen side and a symbol of attack, on the other side...

Visit our server =AIRWARS= and you will see that it works perfectly ;)



SP!

[28_Condor]

Hola:

This is the problem, the WON no work as I wont, the time out for the Tgt no works as I wont.

Saludos.

Well, I didint understood if you want that marking target work in a DF or Coop maps, anyway,I made a small DF mission and successfully tested... When I completed the target over the objects marked for defence for blue side, IL2 displayed a RED WON warning....

The only two problems: IL2 only sets until 75% for defence targets, if you want more you need to edit the mis file... Also, I think that works in one targets, if you want more targets, would be necessary a program like FBDj to rotate mapas after many targets being met... In =AIRWARS= we use FBDJ to change maps whose targets have been met...

I am attaching here the mission that I built for this test ;)


SP!

[etendar]

28_Condor, tks for our response, I dowload the mission and test it.

As Blackdog_kt write is a limitation of the sim set the tgt for only one side.

tks for ours response.

P.D.: I work in DF maps with Fog of War, limit the aircraft and the pilots in base for more dificult. The idea is construct a Force on Force with target and the WON as marck for the winner (no good english, sory).

[28_Condor]

Wellcome Etendar ;)

I also dont write well in inglish, I write/read much better in spanish/portuguese, If you wish my squad page in Brazil is www.gavca.com (I am also a mission builder :grin: )

In fact is not a limitation, but the logic of the system: you set only one side to attack/defense and the program invert the symbols for defense/attack. To IL2 all area of attack is an area of defence, and vice-versa.

Saludos!

[28_Condor]

S!

I found the screen of mission that I used to explain the il2 system for targets another time (for me allways match my goals in build DF mission, including with FoG).

You choose one side and set defence/attack areas:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/PauloDRK/icontargets2.jpg

In game you switch side and and the IL2 program will reverse the symbol targets:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v259/PauloDRK/icontargets1.jpg

EDIT: oops, I understtod what you want... the WON is in one side (the first choosed), the ohter obtain a "Primary target complet"... Your concern is not only about symbols on the map... You can use FBDJ to obtain this, or MDF in UP that chains maps throughof results with targets...

[_RAAF_Smouch]

Once a "destroy target" has been set for one side it is auto set for "defend" for the other side with one limitation:

If the attacking side is to destroy 100% of the objects within the defined circle, the defending side can only defend that target to a maximum of 75%.

So once the attacking side destroys more that 75% of the target they will win despite having to destroy 100%.

Does that make sense?

[28_Condor]

Well, is still possible a double WON (Red/Blue) if you delete the defence target for the coosed side, and set a time to win the attacked target...

I dont know if you wish this kind of mission (one side attack, the other only defend), but I attached an example that work in double WON. For make things simple, I set 2 min in the example-mission :o


Saludos!

[28_Condor]

Or put less time on target to defend. The defensive team only wins when meeting its goal in less time.

Then the map will work as you want.

We must consider that the chosen side will have to fulfill two goals.

The other side needs to perform only one to win.

In this historical maps has its advantage. ;)

[ECV56_etendar]

_RAAF_Smouch: with multiple targets the resolution of this targets somtimes not work with WON, in coops when only a side is in fly for humans U control this, in a DF map various humans is in the map and the resolution not the same, probably for an of mission maker error in the construction. I revise my maps for errors in the construction, tks fro response.

28_Condor: "Senta a pua", trabajo en una campaña con los Tunderbolts brasileros, ya habia armada una campaña con el escuadron mexicano, somos varios latinos y un amigo mexicano volaba con nuestro escuadron por eso arme una campaña en el pacifico para que el la vuele, fue una buena experiencia.
Muchas gracias por tus consejos, sobre todo para poner menos tiempo al objetivo de defensa.

[28_Condor]

Yes, the target system was done for coops, not DF maps. Wil be nice if DT fix it to work properly in DF maps. Currently the target system is better applied in DF maps only to show where the targets are, but to manage results you need an external program like FBDJ ;)




28_Condor: "Senta a pua", trabajo en una campaña con los Tunderbolts brasileros, ya habia armada una campaña con el escuadron mexicano, somos varios latinos y un amigo mexicano volaba con nuestro escuadron por eso arme una campaña en el pacifico para que el la vuele, fue una buena experiencia.
Muchas gracias por tus consejos, sobre todo para poner menos tiempo al objetivo de defensa.

Muy bueno saberlo, cuando tengas essa campaña pronta avisame que me gustaria volarla :grin:

Saludos!