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Colonel
08-11-2011, 09:20 PM
When do we want it ?

NOW !

Got to admit this is probably unlikely given the fact that the Taliban faction would need to have special units like suicide bombers and car bombs and such like. Very controversial.

Gypsy39
08-12-2011, 08:13 PM
I think it would be better set during the Soviet invasion.

Colonel
08-13-2011, 03:55 PM
Good point. But there wouldn't be a lot of sides to choose from. Just the Russians and the Mujahedin.

Whereas this time around you've got the Americans, the British, the Canadians, the Italians, French, Dutch, Polish - even Latvians. And then of course you've got the Taliban.

Something for everyone.

Gypsy39
08-13-2011, 04:07 PM
Good point. But there wouldn't be a lot of sides to choose from. Just the Russians and the Mujahedin.

Whereas this time around you've got the Americans, the British, the Canadians, the Italians, French, Dutch, Polish - even Latvians. And then of course you've got the Taliban.

Something for everyone.

Been there done that. ;)

That is a valid point as well. Don't forget about al Qaeda and of course the ANA/ANP.

I just think the Soviet scenario would be kind of fitting because it's sometimes regarded as "their Vietnam".

Colonel
08-13-2011, 07:54 PM
Either way, I think it would be great. The country has everything you need, mountains, deserts, streams, walled compounds, IEDs, the lot. Plus you've got lots of civilians and possible scenarios. Consider this:

1. Voting day: your unit is posted to a village to stop waves of Taliban from swarming in to disrupt the election. If any of the voters die, you lose.

2. You are tasked with escorting the provincial Governor to a village. Your convoy is ambushed by the Taliban. You must fight them off. If the Governor dies, you lose.

3. Your small special forces team is tasked with assasinating a .. ahem... certain gentleman in a neighbouring country after being dropped off by helipcopter. If the local forces become alerted to the operation and come round to the villa to investigate, you lose.

Lots of juicy possibilties here.

Groth
08-30-2011, 12:26 PM
I think it would be a bad scenario for a game. In both wars you have a modern army versus some insurgents without a big arsenal of weapons, so the mission design hasn't a big variety of options. If you want a balanced gameplay (for the MP balanced) you would only have defensive mission like ambushes etc and offensive commando like operations. Also you should exclude most scenarios including civilians cause of the moral conflicts. And what should the campaigns look like? In a game with a 79-89 scenario, you surely have campaigns for both side, but the developers should be very careful with the heroization of the partys. Some weeks ago i saw a game like this from a russian publisher heroizing the the russians in this conflict. I assume for some western people including me this is kind of odd. In a modern scenario i dont want to play the insurgents.

In a MoW type game you also want a multiplayer. And this would be some of the problems:

1. realism vs balance: highly trained soldiers vs insurgents, high tech equipments and vehicles vs some captured and mostly antique stuff. small hightech units versus massive insurgents troops ? ( turkey hunt .. would be kind of offensive in a realistic game. more likely a gameplay for a game like cc:genarals etc). infantry only for balance ? become unrealistic and let t72 and lower tanks have a chance versus abrams ? ... very problematic
2. playing the insurgents: ok, in a 79-89 scenario it would be ok to play them cause of the cold war scenario and because they were the good guys in the eyes of the western world. But in a modern scenario the developers would a very bad PR after making this game and surely the game would be forbidden to be sold in some countrys.
3. weapons: like i mentioned before realistic warfare with suicide bombers would be a bad idea for a developer.

Tigerium
08-30-2011, 04:43 PM
I don't think they should do modern war ... It's fun to see modern war with mods but the original game should stay in WW2 or around it [Vietnam or WW1 ...] Because insurgents has almost no weapons beside RPG , AK or suicidal bombers . They wouldn't go far if they would face a M1A2 Abrams .

Plus , today's war isn't really a war . I don't like when you just have to call in a Apache to end the fight before it even started . There's a few strategies today , just bomb the area [if there's no civs.] and that's it , even if they learn soldiers how to fight .

razputin
08-30-2011, 05:18 PM
I would have thought MoW Korea would have been a better choice...

Gypsy39
08-31-2011, 03:45 PM
I would have thought MoW Korea would have been a better choice...

That'd be a good one!

it068
09-02-2011, 10:48 PM
That'd be a good one!

Sadly Theatre of War (also by 1c) did that first. I think MOW would have done it alot better though.

infirebaptize
09-07-2011, 03:47 PM
yes, either Afghanistan or Iraq with modern warfare.

Gypsy39
09-08-2011, 03:07 AM
Sadly Theatre of War (also by 1c) did that first. I think MOW would have done it alot better though.

By a long shot! :grin: (Which is why I wouldn't rule it out.)

razputin
09-08-2011, 12:04 PM
I am still waiting for that WW1 mod to be released for MoW... :(

szebus
09-08-2011, 08:12 PM
Had not the patient to read all the posts, but i say Men of War with factions and a similar story like C&C Generals had.