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Chopa
05-09-2011, 11:49 AM
GameDebate just published my "Preview" of Cliffs of Dover.
http://www.game-debate.com/articles/index.php?a_id=651&game=IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover
Please let me know if you violently disagree with my position, or if you find any factual errors as I intend to publish a more laudatory "Review" folllowing the successful US launch when there is more online activity.
Regards Chopa
PeterPanPan
05-09-2011, 12:00 PM
Haven't read it all, but what do you mean [in the last para] installing "ULTRAPACK 4.01.1"? Presumably you mean the latest official game patch, which is actually 4.08m, then 4.09m, then 4.101m?
Probably nothing to do with you, but there's no way I could read something in that sort of layout.
Holy wall of text batman...
602Sqn.McLean
05-09-2011, 12:14 PM
Holy wall of text batman...
I thought the same thing mate. Read the first two thousand lines and realized I had gone cross eyed.
He111
05-09-2011, 01:57 PM
I'm not going to read all that small text, we have oldies here thanks. god-damn whipper-snappers .. {grumble}
He111.
l3uLLDoZeR
05-09-2011, 02:51 PM
Haha, you old guys do know about "Ctrl and +". It zooms in on the page so you can read without squinting!
Chopa
05-09-2011, 11:36 PM
Yep, you caught the deliberate mistake, I meant 4.10.1...I thought I'd fixed that. :( (now you are making me paranoid, wonder what other scroops I failed to catch.)
Lol @ the "wall of text" comments. Gotta love system 7's toolbar zoom feature......I get paid by the word!.. :grin:
Rattlehead
05-09-2011, 11:49 PM
I get paid by the word!.. :grin:
...You must be pretty rich. :)
Just kidding, I think it was a fair article.
Chopa
05-10-2011, 01:17 AM
...You must be pretty rich. :)
Yeah, come talk about it over a cold bottle of Krug on my luxury yacht in Fort Myers marina. Actually, I build walls of text for free....More fool me.
Just kidding, I think it was a fair article.
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words. :grin:
sigintwarrior
05-10-2011, 01:04 PM
What a great review. I think you were fair yet accurate. After a modest amount of game time, I feel that you hit the nail right on the head.
Very nice review, I think it honestly conveys the state of the sim now while appropriately focusing on what it will be in the future.
The prose is nice, but for the sake of readability you absolutely need to add more paragraph breaks!
609_Huetz
05-10-2011, 02:32 PM
Decent article, even though my eyes hurt now. Make sure you adjust the layout a bit for the true review in a bit.
On a sidenote, you may want to reconsider the point about spawning a sales boost as far as hardware is concerned.
Given that you are talking about a product for a niche market that already had two launches absolutely gone wrong, I doubt that the boost on hardware sales will be even marginally noticeable at best over a foreseeable timeframe - that part is leading the review ad absurdum a bit imho.
Just my 10c though.
Langnasen
05-10-2011, 02:35 PM
I stopped reading at "...fuel-trucks and bowsers whizzing around...". Makes it sound like there's an SP game worthy of the name, all full of life and goodies and immersion.
There isn't. The game, when it doesn't crash or lock-up, is utterly sterile. The SP campaign isn't a campaign, it's a bunch of very shoddy single missions strung together. And strung together badly.
Maybe your review/preview goes on to mention that but, like I say, I stopped reading it when it began to give a very false impression.
jojimbo
05-10-2011, 02:55 PM
I stopped reading at "...fuel-trucks and bowsers whizzing around...". Makes it sound like there's an SP game worthy of the name, all full of life and goodies and immersion.
There isn't. The game, when it doesn't crash or lock-up, is utterly sterile. The SP campaign isn't a campaign, it's a bunch of very shoddy single missions strung together. And strung together badly.
Maybe your review/preview goes on to mention that but, like I say, I stopped reading it when it began to give a very false impression.
gotta admit this guys right, it really badly put together, although the aircraft models are groundbreaking, the terrain and textures are rigbreaking.
and thats not a campaign, its an unplayable pixel dump of heaving lag and sound anomalies.
still love flying over the channel though
609_Huetz
05-10-2011, 03:12 PM
I think that is more or less a result of the engine being so badly optimized, that even people with identical hardware get different results.
I could not claim having any problems with either of the campaigns performancewise on my just about med-specs rig, so that would possibly show if I did a review. Definately worth correcting in the article though before too many people get the wrong impression.
Sternjaeger II
05-10-2011, 03:24 PM
" I have waxed lyrical about the beauty of the game, and it's potential"
its potential, not it's potential... grammar guys, grammar... ;)
Fair article btw, uh, and where do I send my optician bill? ;)
Seeker
05-10-2011, 03:29 PM
" I have waxed lyrical about the beauty of the game, and it's potential"
its potential, not it's potential... grammar guys, grammar... ;)
Fair article btw, uh, and where do I send my optician bill? ;)
It's. The comma is a possessive, in English english, at least.
SsSsSsSsSnake
05-10-2011, 03:40 PM
correct
Art-J
05-10-2011, 04:18 PM
I'm not a native speaker, but I've always thought it's "its" :D (just like in yours, his, hers, its, ours, theirs). So what's the difference between possessive "its" and possessive "it's"?
Cheers.
TwistedAdonis
05-10-2011, 04:33 PM
I'm not a native speaker, but I've always thought it's "its" :D (just like in yours, his, hers, its, ours, theirs). So what's the difference between possessive "its" and possessive "it's"?
Cheers.
Be aware of the its/it's trap. Use an apostrophe with the word "it" only when you want to indicate a contraction for "it is" or "it has." It is a pronoun, and pronouns have their own possessive form that does not use an apostrophe. For example, "That noise? It's just the dog eating its bone." This may seem confusing, but it follows the same pattern as other possessive pronouns: his, hers, its, yours, ours, theirs.
Sternjaeger II & Art-J get the points. :)
Sternjaeger II
05-10-2011, 08:54 PM
It's. The comma is a possessive, in English english, at least.
nope, that's in "your" English man, not proper English :rolleyes:
A lot of people do this mistake, like "your" instead of "you're", or the use of " 's" for plural.. yes, I'm quite the grammar Nazi..
The one that really makes me cringe though is "I should of known"...
Chopa
05-10-2011, 10:43 PM
I might of guest some grammer nazi would get it's knickers in a twist over that one. :-D
(Actually, the wife, who is a Seppie, did point out "it's" but I claimed "Droite d' Anglais".)
"What language do y'all speak ovar in England? You speak 'murrican, or what?"
@ Langnasen:
You are right, I barely mentioned the "Fly through the Rings" training session or the incredibly easy missions or campaign. I will cover them in the "Review" following a successful US launch. Frankly, I feel that the future of this game lies in online multiplayer, and the above are just speedbumps on the road to that. I know some players will obsess over the missions, cranking up the heat until they hit full realism, but to me that is a bit like playing with a blow-up doll when you should be hitting the clubs! Get online and shoot down real people! :-)
Sternjaeger II
05-11-2011, 03:49 PM
I might of guest some grammer nazi would get it's knickers in a twist over that one. :-D
(Actually, the wife, who is a Seppie, did point out "it's" but I claimed "Droite d' Anglais".)
"What language do y'all speak ovar in England? You speak 'murrican, or what?"
@ Langnasen:
You are right, I barely mentioned the "Fly through the Rings" training session or the incredibly easy missions or campaign. I will cover them in the "Review" following a successful US launch. Frankly, I feel that the future of this game lies in online multiplayer, and the above are just speedbumps on the road to that. I know some players will obsess over the missions, cranking up the heat until they hit full realism, but to me that is a bit like playing with a blow-up doll when you should be hitting the clubs! Get online and shoot down real people! :-)
sorry man, among my duties at work there's proofreading, so it's a kind of professional deformation ;) but seriously, if you consider writing regularly, check your grammar, if anything do it because there are a lot of young people that might read the article and might take your typo for good.
SsSsSsSsSnake
05-11-2011, 05:05 PM
I might of guest some grammer nazi would get it's knickers in a twist over that one. :-D
(Actually, the wife, who is a Seppie, did point out "it's" but I claimed "Droite d' Anglais".)
"What language do y'all speak ovar in England? You speak 'murrican, or what?"
@ Langnasen:
You are right, I barely mentioned the "Fly through the Rings" training session or the incredibly easy missions or campaign. I will cover them in the "Review" following a successful US launch. Frankly, I feel that the future of this game lies in online multiplayer, and the above are just speedbumps on the road to that. I know some players will obsess over the missions, cranking up the heat until they hit full realism, but to me that is a bit like playing with a blow-up doll when you should be hitting the clubs! Get online and shoot down real people! :-)
Guest??:)dont you mean Guessed :)
TwistedAdonis
05-11-2011, 05:33 PM
I might of guest...
Cringe is too small a word...unless you were being provocative. :)
BTW I prefer being called grammar police to Nazis. I'm not of a mind to cleanse the world of those who don't know how to construct a pleasing sentence.:evil:
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