Spitfire Vc ?

[fly_zo]

... any chance Devs has changed their mind and this isn't acceptable anymore ?


change this:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/fly_zo/spitVc_1.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/fly_zo/spitVc_2.jpg

into this:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/fly_zo/spitVb_1.jpg

http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/fly_zo/spitVb_2.jpg

[DKoor]

190 bar steal all others 8)

lol wing too small there's no visible nose.....all that made it in.
Invisible LOD wings and such crimes also made it in.
Thankfully that fighter is still vulnerable 8)

[Bearcat]

I dont see what you mean.....

[DKoor]

That's because there's nothing to see there :lol:
That's the problem.

[fly_zo]

PoW needs to be lifted a bit...

all Spits had that problem at first ( if my memory serves me) and they fix it in next patch, so it can be done.

Kuna you know why i'm so interested in this .... RAF 352Yu sq.

[DKoor]

Yeah mate I know.....8)
Thing is those cosmetical fixes are very hard sinking in the game, I have no idea why.
Perhaps fiddling with them is more pain than fixing DM/FM?
I don't know.

In any case...........I've posted some old stuff that was wrong from the day one, and noone fixed it yet; a sample:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/Atomic_Marten/PF%20shots/W-Cat001.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v442/Atomic_Marten/PF%20shots/A6M5b_canopyop_001.jpg

ps. sorry for little hijack, I'd like to see something done about these "cosmetical" stuff :(

[flox]

... any chance Devs has changed their mind and this isn't acceptable anymore ?


change this:
http://i41.photobucket.com/albums/e287/fly_zo/spitVc_1.jpg



Maybe I'm being obtuse but I don't see the problem here either. Care to expain?

[IvanK]

The nose is not visible just past the base of the armour glass.

[fly_zo]

@flox:

as i said point of view needs to be higher like in all other spitfires, you should be able to see the nose and wings should be more visible .... just compare with pics of MkVb i posted.

@ kuna: i'm perfectly ok with all cosmetic errors anybody care to post in here.... 4.09 is the last chance for fix ... after all what we have to lose ?

[DKoor]

True 8)
Who knows what will happen.........perhaps Oleg will shed some light on what we should expect in the future?
We'll see 8)

[JtD]

as i said point of view needs to be higher like in all other spitfires, you should be able to see the nose and wings should be more visible .... just compare with pics of MkVb i posted.

No, that is not the problem. The cockpit is too high in the Vc model, as I have pointed out a long time ago. If you use the external 3D model of the Spit Vc for reference, the PoV of the pilot already is outside and above the cockpit. The reason you can't see the engine cowling behind the frame of the windshield is because it is about half a meter lower than the lower edge of the frame. For the same reason the wings appear smaller.

The height of the PoV is fairly easy to judge if you check what portion of the prop you see when you switch off the engine.

It has been said on some forums that this could not be corrected because of problems with the 3D model.

Check out paragraph 18 of the terms of the 1C Company Forum rules and do a little research before you make another post like that. ;)

[DKoor]

Yes you're mighty right!
Let's ban him for not spending all his lifetime reading the boards....that would be kinda cool 8)

[fly_zo]

JtD wrote : "It has been said on some forums that this could not be corrected because of problems with the 3D model. "

Are you telling me that team included unfitting 3d model into the game ? Sorry i just can't believe that. They prove their obsession (and i mean in the best possible way) with perfection sooo many times that...


As for par.18 , there wasn't any false info from my side, only my opinion ( like a... everyone have one ) of how to fix problem (documented with pictures).

Pull some strings you have around here and BAN me ! :x

threating isn't cool !!!

[DKoor]

Are you telling me that team included unfitting 3d model into the game ? Sorry i just can't believe that. They prove they obsession (and i mean in the best possible way) with perfection sooo many times that...lol that's very true.
If one pixel is not right it cannot make it in.
Or so we are thought.

Yet we have this.
And all those other obvious visual errors.

Err......

What? :shock:

Something isn't really right in this picture. :?:

[JtD]

Are you telling me that team included unfitting 3d model into the game ? Sorry i just can't believe that. They prove their obsession (and i mean in the best possible way) with perfection sooo many times that...

No, I am telling you that this was posted on some message boards. I have no idea if the fact posted there is correct.

[fly_zo]

@JtD:"I have no idea if the fact posted there is correct."

... how that passed paragraph 18 m8 ? :wink:

no hard feelings

stay well

Z

[JtD]

My fact: "It has been said on some forums...."

100% true.

Had I said: "There are some problems with the 3D model."

I could be wrong, because I do not know. So I didn't say that.

It's the small things. ;)

[fly_zo]

whatever man... i decided to let you have this one 'cos it's getting off topics

so You win!!!!!!

happy now?

i'll even throw in a drink if your way takes you to Zagreb

[Evgeny]

Well actually your post doesn't break the par.18, cause you just made a suggestion, you didn't stated anything. So it's Ok, man. :)

[fly_zo]

thanks Evgeny :D

[DKoor]

8) Now that that has been resolved we can get back to the Spitfires....... :arrow:

[kristorf]

Should not be to hard, but once flying I hardly notice it, to concerned on whats happening around me. :wink:

[fly_zo]

Should not be to hard, but once flying I hardly notice it, to concerned on whats happening around me. :wink:

True man, but i would rather see more of wings painted in your excellent skins when looking on the side from cockpit.

stay well
Z

p.s. thanks for all of your skinning work !!!

[kristorf]

Cheers mate :oops:

[150GCT_Veltro]

bump

[JG53Frankyboy]

as i said point of view needs to be higher like in all other spitfires, you should be able to see the nose and wings should be more visible .... just compare with pics of MkVb i posted.

No, that is not the problem. The cockpit is too high in the Vc model, as I have pointed out a long time ago. If you use the external 3D model of the Spit Vc for reference, the PoV of the pilot already is outside and above the cockpit. The reason you can't see the engine cowling behind the frame of the windshield is because it is about half a meter lower than the lower edge of the frame. For the same reason the wings appear smaller.

The height of the PoV is fairly easy to judge if you check what portion of the prop you see when you switch off the engine.

It has been said on some forums that this could not be corrected because of problems with the 3D model.

...............

btw the Seafires and/or Spitfire VIIIs had the "same" cockpit bug when they were released (Spit Vb and IX are made from another 3.Party modeller-IIRC Gibbage)
wondering if the 3D model proplems of the Spit Vc are the same as in the other ones - i belive Vc, VIII and Seafires are based on the same basis

[FlatSpinMan]

Not wanting to pour oil on a fire or disparage ya fly_zo but I'd say this is pretty minor compared to the view from a FW190 seat.

[fly_zo]

[quote=btw the Seafires and/or Spitfire VIIIs had the "same" cockpit bug when they were released (Spit Vb and IX are made from another 3.Party modeller-IIRC Gibbage)
wondering if the 3D model proplems of the Spit Vc are the same as in the other ones - i belive Vc, VIII and Seafires are based on the same basis[/quote]

i believe so , but since Oleg didn't bother to answer any question it's obvious that whole point of starting this forum is Sow BoB marketing. No question regarding Il2 will be answered i'm afraid. :cry:

[fly_zo]

Not wanting to pour oil on a fire or disparage ya fly_zo but I'd say this is pretty minor compared to the view from a FW190 seat.

Hi m8,
if you did read first few posts ( speciali one from Kuna) you'd realize that i'm ok with pointing out any graphical error in this tread. So yes Fw190 bar needs to be addressed too!

stay well
Z