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Mysticpuma
03-13-2011, 08:07 AM
I just really can't remember, but as I was looking at the list of aircraft Flyable and AI on Cliffs of Dover, I wondered if the AI aircraft would be the next 'Patch' so that these then become Flyable.

I'm thinking that these models are already created so I presume cockpits are next and thse can be worked on after release?

Just wondering?

Cheers, MP

Feathered_IV
03-13-2011, 08:23 AM
Ju-88, Hs129, B-25, CW-21, Pe-2, G4M1, J2M3 and Ki-43II just off the top of my head.

LukeFF
03-13-2011, 08:27 AM
As compared to the original IL2 release? Heck yeah, there were a lot, among them:

-Pe-2
-Pe-3
-He 111
-Ju 87
-Ju 88
-Hs 129
-Fw 190 (yes, it was originally AI-only)
-I-16
-I-153
-He 162
-Me 262
-Bf 109 E (all of the three original variants)
-Bf 109 K-4

Sauf
03-13-2011, 08:36 AM
I read in a post today a quote from Oleg (cant seem to find it now, maybe was at simhq) that only the IL2 was meant to be flyable in the original.

I do hope we get the Do17 eventually, as it was used in large numbers in BOB.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/austin7nut/5349597474/

IceFire
03-13-2011, 01:13 PM
I read in a post today a quote from Oleg (cant seem to find it now, maybe was at simhq) that only the IL2 was meant to be flyable in the original.

I do hope we get the Do17 eventually, as it was used in large numbers in BOB.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/austin7nut/5349597474/

Yep IL-2 was supposed to be a study sim and not a survey sim like it turned out to be. They added a few more here and there and then suddenly... we have the single largest collection of combat flyable World War II era aircraft ever. It's still shocking to me that we can jump from front to front and cover so much of the air war.

Not sure if we'll ever see this in Cliffs of Dover and moving forward.

koivis
03-13-2011, 02:38 PM
-Fw 190 (yes, it was originally AI-only)


Actually, Fw 190A-4 was flyable in the very first version (Il-2 Sturmovik 1.0), and A-5 came in the next patch.:cool:

Other AI only planes not mentioned yet were La-7, IAR.80/81 and MC.202. Believe me, alll these were in the first game as AI planes!

Mysticpuma
03-13-2011, 05:20 PM
I read in a post today a quote from Oleg (cant seem to find it now, maybe was at simhq) that only the IL2 was meant to be flyable in the original.

I do hope we get the Do17 eventually, as it was used in large numbers in BOB.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/austin7nut/5349597474/

This was the aircraft I was thinking of when I posted the thread. I certainly hope it will become one of the flyable's, but maybe they will take the RoF route and maybe it will already be flyable, but payment will be needed in the future to unlock it?

Time will tell?

Cheers, MP

Feuerfalke
03-13-2011, 05:32 PM
This was the aircraft I was thinking of when I posted the thread. I certainly hope it will become one of the flyable's, but maybe they will take the RoF route and maybe it will already be flyable, but payment will be needed in the future to unlock it?

Time will tell?

Cheers, MP

As posted a couple of times, CoD will go the same way IL2 did: Free patches with smaller upgrades and larger addons as payware.

IceFire
03-13-2011, 08:07 PM
This was the aircraft I was thinking of when I posted the thread. I certainly hope it will become one of the flyable's, but maybe they will take the RoF route and maybe it will already be flyable, but payment will be needed in the future to unlock it?

Time will tell?

Cheers, MP
If I'm not mistaken the Do217 quickly replaced the Do17 just after the Battle of Britain was over. Perhaps they will be modeling that bomber instead? There's quite a bit more ground that the 217 covered in the different variations although I can see the draw for the Do17 as an interesting aircraft by itself.

Avimimus
03-13-2011, 10:08 PM
It was originally only going to be the Il-2 variants. Then they added a single variants of the LaGG and Mig-3 respectively. Then the BF-109F-2, P-39N and the Yak-1. Then they added the La-5FN...

No Ju-87 until just before FB, no flyable jets or bi-planes. It took a long time before we saw Emil and Gustav 109s, FW-190A4 Jabos or any twin engined mounts (Oleg originally planned to only offer the top gunner position on bombs as player controllable...)

There were only half-a-dozen aircraft at release - everything else...

The Kraken
03-13-2011, 10:35 PM
Don't expect additional flyable planes with free patches. While I wouldn't rule out a few sub variants like the E4 may be included at some point, a complete new model is highly unlikely to be provided for free from all we've heard so far. Especially if it's a bomber.

There are no indications that additional planes are ready but reserved for DLC. While Oleg may not have the final word on that, he's made it clear that he doesn't want to follow such a business model and sell them individually, but only as part of larger scenario packages.

Mr_Steven
03-15-2011, 05:38 AM
I wouldn't be so quick to doubt Oleg, Gents. For all we know Africa could be well on it's way to completion.

koivis
03-15-2011, 03:56 PM
It was originally only going to be the Il-2 variants. Then they added a single variants of the LaGG and Mig-3 respectively. Then the BF-109F-2, P-39N and the Yak-1. Then they added the La-5FN...

No Ju-87 until just before FB, no flyable jets or bi-planes. It took a long time before we saw Emil and Gustav 109s, FW-190A4 Jabos or any twin engined mounts (Oleg originally planned to only offer the top gunner position on bombs as player controllable...)

There were only half-a-dozen aircraft at release - everything else...

This is list of flyable planes from the very first version, Il-2 Sturmovik 1.0 from 2001:

Il-2 1st Series
Il-2 2nd Series
Il-2 3rd Series
Il-2 Field Mod
Il-2M First Series
Il-2M Late Series
Il-2 Type 3
Il-2 Type 3M
Il-2T
Il-2I
La-5FN
LaGG-3 Series 1
LaGG-3 Series 66
LaGG-3 IT
MiG-3
MiG-3ud
MiG-3U
P-39N-1
P-39Q-1
P-39Q-10
Yak-1B
Yak-7B
Yak-9T
Yak-9K
Yak-9U
Yak-3
Bf 109F-2
Bf 109G-2
Bf 109G-6
Bf 109G-6 Late
Bf 109G-6/AS
Fw 190A-4

That's 32 variants, and 8 different plane families. So, don't be offended, but I think you were wrong. And yes, I'm a nitpicker, of the worst kind!:rolleyes:

Jaws2002
03-15-2011, 04:09 PM
I remember flying IAR-81 and FW-190D9 online from outside view before they had cockpits.:)

Friendly_flyer
03-15-2011, 05:35 PM
I really hope we get the Do 17 in a patch, and I don't mind paying for it. It did a lot of daring low-level missions during BoF and BoB, the kind of stuff that was excellent in IL2, and that I suppose will begreat in CoD too.

Avimimus
03-19-2011, 11:15 AM
Thanks Koivis,

I recently uninstalled the original and was going off of memory (ie. the airplanes I flew or the ones which were announced a few months before release).