competing against the Messerschmitt Bf 109

[Xilon_x]

HEINKEL HE 112

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Heinkel_He_112.JPG

The Heinkel He 112 was a fighter aircraft designed by Walter and Siegfried Günter. It was one of four aircraft designed to compete for the Luftwaffe's 1933 fighter contract, which was eventually won by the Messerschmitt Bf 109.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_112

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[Xilon_x]

HE 112 U: extreme redesign of the project with a DB 601 engine "reworked" with power ratings up to 1,800 horses (such as DB 603) and radiant cooling surfaces rather than a radiator. He was a great improvement in performance, with a peak of 700 km / h. Here too, the Heinkel was unable to escape from the 'corner' in which he had confined the Messerschmitt Me 209 because he was able to slightly exceed the speed of He 100V (name by which, being a practically new project, was rightly redesigned 112U). Nine specimens were brought into experimental service, but there was not followed. Others were supplied to the Soviet Union, and the test performed Supron Stefan suffered a series of maneuvers even tried by German testers. Despite the party in a champagne that followed, the model was not recognized as valid machine operatively.

http://www.luftarchiv.de/flugzeuge/heinkel/he100_museum.jpg
this is variant HENIKEL HE 112 U


Heinkel He 112 is very similar to the Yak 9.
I think that the Soviet Union include one of HE112 U and it has copied his techniques and his plan to produce and then rip off the famous YAK 9.

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/87/Yak_9_1.jpg/250px-Yak_9_1.jpg

[zakkandrachoff]

http://www2.stevenshobby.com:5641/si/ProductFiles/lto4802.jpg

http://argentavis.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/2pys6fd.jpg


ok ok...


http://www.deadlybirds.com.br/pt/alemanha/avioes/he_view/heinkel_he100-3.jpg

The Heinkel He 100 was a German pre-World War II fighter aircraft design from Heinkel. Although it proved to be one of the fastest fighter aircraft in the world at the time of its development, the design was not ordered into series production, Approximately 19 prototypes and pre-production machines were built. The reason for the failure of the He 100 to reach production status is subject to debate. None are known to have survived the war.
Officially, the Luftwaffe rejected the He 100 to concentrate single-seat fighter development on the Messerschmitt Bf 109. Following the adoption of the Bf 109 and Bf 110 as the Luftwaffe's standard fighter types, the RLM announced a "rationalization" policy that placed fighter development at Messerschmitt and bomber development at Heinkel.

[Royraiden]

HEINKEL HE 112

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/22/Heinkel_He_112.JPG

The Heinkel He 112 was a fighter aircraft designed by Walter and Siegfried Günter. It was one of four aircraft designed to compete for the Luftwaffe's 1933 fighter contract, which was eventually won by the Messerschmitt Bf 109.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinkel_He_112

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Looks lovely.

[TheGrunch]

The He 100 was a beautiful looking aircraft, and supposedly had a fairly incredible performance as well. Such a shame so little solid information about it has survived.

[Strike]

I think it has similarities in design to the MiG-3 :) If you imagine the cockpit a little further aft...

[Ltbear]

:)

http://www.deadlybirds.com.br/pt/alemanha/avioes/he_view/heinkel_he100-3.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/5/55/Ki-61.jpg

lol pretty close just different wings, thats why the air intake is under fuselage :)

LTbear

[Fritz X]

The He-100 was far ahead of it's time flight-characteristics wise.

Unfortunately the overly complicated and easy to damage cooling system doomed the project, sadly.

[Xilon_x]

this is heinkel 112
http://www.warbirdsresourcegroup.org/LRG/images/he112-1.jpg

heinkel also use jet enjine and is fast plane.
TEST jet enjine
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/5599/heinkelhe122v3provaalba.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/7338/heinkelhe112v3razzo.jpg

HEINKEL 112 V5 and V3
http://img27.imageshack.us/img27/4589/heinkelhe122v5.jpg
http://img17.imageshack.us/img17/1849/heinkelhe122v3.jpg

this secret and rare photo
http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesd/g111.jpg
similar machines were also designed by the Soviets with Lavochin La-7 and the MiG I-250

The La-7 was the only Soviet fighter to shoot down a Messerschmitt Me-262, by Ivan Nikitovich Kozhedub on one occasion over Germany on February 15, 1945.

http://www.flymig.com/pilots/ivan.nikitovich.kozhedub.htm

On February 19, 1945, 1 was on a lone-wolf operation together with Dmitry Titorenko to the north of Frankfurt. I noticed a plane at an altitude of 350 meters (2,170 feet). It was flying along the Oder at a speed that was marginal for my plane. I made a quick about-face and started pursuing it at full throttle, coming down so as to approach it from under the "belly." My wingman opened fire, and the Me-262 (which was a jet, as I had already realized) began turning left, over to my side, losing speed in the process. That was the end of it. I would never have overtaken it if it had flown in a straight line. The main thing was to attack enemy planes during turns, ascents or descents, and not to lose precious seconds.
http://img259.imageshack.us/img259/1889/m262.jpg

[swiss]

That looks like a rocket engine, not a jet.

...and German rocket engines sucked big time - think of the Me163.

[Xilon_x]

yes sorry it is a rocket enjine not jet.

[kimosabi]

T-stoff and C-stoff. BAM! :)

[Sven]

That looks like a rocket engine, not a jet.

...and German rocket engines sucked big time - think of the Me163.

They sure did, tell that to the people they were aimed at.

[Xilon_x]

lavochkin-5
http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcQ4WsjkWSUJleYkhn3c4eNgNlvA8687S sX_B15tTaoAyMJ1Gh36
LA-7
http://tanks45.tripod.com/Jets45/Histories/La-7S/La7_20.jpg
mig 250
http://www.google.it/images?hl=it&source=imghp&biw=1021&bih=638&q=MiG+I-250&btnG=Cerca+immagini&gbv=2&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=

[Xilon_x]

http://argentavis.files.wordpress.com/2010/01/2pys6fd.jpg

Bello zakkandrachoff molto bello.

[swiss]

They sure did, tell that to the people they were aimed at.

Tell that the pilots who got:
- burned
- exploded
- poisoned
- died of some other technical defect

[Fritz X]

^ True. There were even reports about German test pilots who "vaporized" due to chemicals intruding into cockpits of their Me-163's. If those reports are true or not, you decide.

But I think that Sven was hinting at German rocket powered bombs and missiles, like V1 and V2...

[engarde]

:)

lol pretty close just different wings, thats why the air intake is under fuselage :)

LTbear

ive been looking at ww2 era aircraft since the early 80s and i never made this connection.

remarkable.

very similar.

[Ltbear]

I know its far out, but the KI-61 does look werry simulare to the HE-100. The Japanese did get 3 of them...and here is a small part of the story

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wikki
The Japanese were also looking for new designs, notably those using inline engines where they had little experience. They purchased the three D-0s for 1.2 million RM, as well as a license for production and a set of jigs for another 1.6 million RM. The three D-0s arrived in Japan in May 1940 and were re-assembled at Kasumigaura. They were then delivered to the Japanese Naval Air Force where they were re-named AXHei, for "Experimental Heinkel Fighter".[2] When referring to the German design the aircraft is called both the He 100 and He 113, with at least one set of plans bearing the later name.

In tests, the Navy was so impressed that they planned to put the aircraft into production as soon as possible as their land-based interceptor; unlike every other armed forces organization in the world, the Army and Navy both fielded complete land-based air forces. Hitachi won the contract for the aircraft and started construction of a factory in Chiba for its production. With the war in full swing in Europe, however, the jigs and plans never arrived.[2] Why this wasn't sorted out is something of a mystery, and it appears there isn't enough information in the common sources to say for sure what happened.
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Personaly i belive the Japanese used the HE-100 as template for the construction of the KI-61. They had the license for the engine, was not sure how to implement it, looked at the HE-100 construction and createt the KI-61

That is my opinion...not any historical fact...

found this pretty ok arthicle about the KI-61
http://www.vectorsite.net/avhien.html

LTbear

[TinyTim]

...and German rocket engines sucked big time

Actually, they blew! :-P