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RedToo
02-24-2011, 01:16 PM
Lots of screens from here:
http://gamer.ru/shtorm-voyny-bitva-za-britaniyu/prevyu-aviasimulyatora-il-2-shturmovik-bitva-za-britaniyu
There are more on the site under clickable text – various setup screens.
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/25_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/23_IF.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/22_IF.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/21_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/20_IF.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/19_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/18_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/17_IF.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/16_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/15_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/13_IF.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/12_IF.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/11_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/08_SP-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/07_SP-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/02_Setup-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/26_IF-1.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/24_IF.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/21_IF.jpg
Also some more new screens at the sukhoi.ru forum
RedToo.
76.IAP-Blackbird
02-24-2011, 01:28 PM
Absolutly fantastic!! Can`t wait to fly this game by my self. Have preordered it and I hope it`s "playable" :-P
Tempest123
02-24-2011, 02:14 PM
Ok, those where the screen shots I was waiting for, looks very very good, love canopy opening on the 109, stuka shot is fantastic and the defiant is great. The loadout options for the spitfire are staggering, I think this is the first time since SoW/Codo announcement that the product exceeds my expectations with respect to detail, so a definite buy for me.
HFC_Dolphin
02-24-2011, 02:46 PM
Fantastic!
JG52Uther
02-24-2011, 02:52 PM
What cockpit is this,it ain't a Blenheim!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v369/RedToo/15_IF-1.jpg
JG53Frankyboy
02-24-2011, 02:54 PM
Fiat Br.20
Royraiden
02-24-2011, 03:03 PM
Thanks for posting all the pics in one thread.Some of them where hidden or something.
JG52Uther
02-24-2011, 03:18 PM
Yes great pics! Just a bit weird that people have to hunt all over the net for CoD info,rather than getting it here or at the publishers site, but thats part of the fun I guess...
Il2Pongo
02-24-2011, 03:21 PM
cant wait to see to what effect they have weathered the 109, screen shots of them all ways seem pristine, like a Libyan Mirage F1
kestrel79
02-24-2011, 03:49 PM
Wow great shots!
What plane is the british twin engine 3rd last screenshot? It has a really tall glass canopy...I don't know if we have seen screenshots of that before? Or is it a Blenheim mk1?
IFnXI
02-24-2011, 03:54 PM
Su-26
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=67186&p=1553755&viewfull=1#post1553755
One more screenshot from the author preview
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=67186&p=1553805&viewfull=1#post1553805
DD_crash
02-24-2011, 04:02 PM
Wow great shots!
What plane is the british twin engine 3rd last screenshot? It has a really tall glass canopy...I don't know if we have seen screenshots of that before? Or is it a Blenheim mk1?
Avro Anson trainer/communication.
Fritz X
02-24-2011, 04:12 PM
That's some awesome screenshots indeed.
Just wondering myself what they're going to do with the Bf-109, right now it looks like it's made of plastic...
JG52Krupi
02-24-2011, 04:38 PM
What the hell is that item in the bottom left hand corner of the screens?
Some sort of scrolling/setting bar... wonder what it does!
EDIT:
Its the engine power i think, there are two on the two engine aircraft shots!!
Actually not on all the shots
That's some awesome screenshots indeed.
Just wondering myself what they're going to do with the Bf-109, right now it looks like it's made of plastic...
Well then, suggest something and they might do it just before release.
I don't see it though, it's just a shiny polished 109.
Thanks for posting all the pics in one thread.Some of them where hidden or something.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showpost.php?p=227816&postcount=12 ;)
JG4_Helofly
02-24-2011, 05:43 PM
Yes great pics! Just a bit weird that people have to hunt all over the net for CoD info,rather than getting it here or at the publishers site, but thats part of the fun I guess...
Sad but true :(
Jg2001_Rasputin
02-24-2011, 05:49 PM
That's some awesome screenshots indeed.
Just wondering myself what they're going to do with the Bf-109, right now it looks like it's made of plastic...
http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/YankeeAirMuseum2005/Highlights/Bf109e2oClock.jpg
Looks like plastic, too! ;)
it´s the light and the paint. I think Oleg nailed it!
Tempest123
02-24-2011, 06:01 PM
I got to see up that very 109 up close when it was getting a new radiator installed that was shipped from duxford, gorgeous plane, much smaller in person than I imagined it. it was next to spit and was slightly smaller, very agressive aircraft. I'd have to say Oleg did a fine job of getting realistic lighting instead of a "computer game" sepia tone or something ala birds of prey.
ckolonko
02-24-2011, 06:12 PM
Looks great and I cant wait! I'll be spending most of my time loading ammo into the guns of my Hurricane!!!!!
Letum
02-24-2011, 06:13 PM
I see someone over at sukhoi.ru has hit one nail on the head....
http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/1102/bd/fa5fc1b2a8ac.jpg
http://s61.radikal.ru/i171/1102/cc/bf24b566b160.jpg
Chivas
02-24-2011, 06:26 PM
I hope I will be able to do just that by adjusting the color settings in the gpu control panel.
Letum
02-24-2011, 06:29 PM
I hope I will be able to do just that by adjusting the color settings in the gpu control panel.
Any changes made there will change *all* the colours and you don't want to do that because the aircraft, sky and other colours are fine.
Boandlgramer
02-24-2011, 06:32 PM
The second shot is too dark IMO
Oleg got it right.
Letum
02-24-2011, 06:42 PM
The second shot is too dark IMO
Oleg got it right.
...spend a lot of time in England?
JG53Frankyboy
02-24-2011, 06:43 PM
the second shot is more early morning or late afternoon, when the sun is staying low.
at a bright sommer day, at 12°° , the first shot is not too bad i think...
anyway, if the landscpape would have the same resolution as the planes...i dont think our PC would give much FPS, if at all.
Feuerfalke
02-24-2011, 06:46 PM
...spend a lot of time in England?
Wow. :shock:
I didn't know there's so little sun in England.
Even without clouds and close to noon (look at the short shadows) you only have the lighting from a dull overcast. That's sad.
Feuerfalke
02-24-2011, 06:48 PM
I hope I will be able to do just that by adjusting the color settings in the gpu control panel.
Why should you not be able to? If all fails, tune down your monitor. Done.
So why all the fuss? If you still think BoP has realistic lighting, desaturate your monitor and graphics settings and have fun. Problem solved.
Boandlgramer
02-24-2011, 06:50 PM
...spend a lot of time in England?
Well could not say it was " a lot".
A short visit and another 1 week trip .
But I am a countryman :)
Its called here " Roadbackadabauernbua. :)
You do not agree with me ? Thats pretty sad.
IFnXI
02-24-2011, 07:00 PM
I see someone over at sukhoi.ru has hit one nail on the head....
http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/1102/bd/fa5fc1b2a8ac.jpg
http://s61.radikal.ru/i171/1102/cc/bf24b566b160.jpg
The second shot - like you're wearing sunglasses on a bright sunny day (first shot)
BlackSix
02-24-2011, 07:09 PM
the second shot is more early morning or late afternoon, when the sun is staying low.
at a bright sommer day, at 12°° , the first shot is not too bad i think...
No, the second screenshot not from game. It is bad color correction in Photoshop from one of visitors of a forum
Нет, второй скриншот не из игры. Это плохая цветокоррекция в Фотошопе от одного из посетителей форума.
JG53Frankyboy
02-24-2011, 07:19 PM
i know the second was "photoshoped", my writing is not clear in that , true! Sorry :)
Hecke
02-24-2011, 07:20 PM
BlackSix, you made the review, right?
In one of the screens one could see that you had Land detail on High. Is there something above high? I just wonder if we can get rid of the blurry ground textures by setting something higher?
furbs
02-24-2011, 07:22 PM
the second shot is "more" England than the first...none are perfect though....because none can be.
MD_Titus
02-24-2011, 07:25 PM
The second shot is too dark IMO
Oleg got it right.
yep
the second shot is more early morning or late afternoon, when the sun is staying low.
at a bright sommer day, at 12°° , the first shot is not too bad i think...
anyway, if the landscpape would have the same resolution as the planes...i dont think our PC would give much FPS, if at all.
look at shados, that's about right time i'd say.
the second shot is "more" England than the first...none are perfect though....because none can be.
nah it isn't, that's full sun at midday in summer. first shot is more accurate for those conditions, although yes, the 2nd shot is more typical. just not for the conditions apparent in shot.
BlackSix
02-24-2011, 07:27 PM
BlackSix, you made the review, right?
Yes
In one of the screens one could see that you had Land detail on High. Is there something above high? I just wonder if we can get rid of the blurry ground textures by setting something higher?All screenshots are made here on these options (except installation anti-aliasing=2). To improve parameter "Land Detail" it is impossible more
Hecke
02-24-2011, 07:30 PM
Yes
All screenshots are made here on these options (except installation anti-aliasing=2):
Yes that's the screenshot i was referring to. But my question is if the Setting High is the highest or if there's something above like let's say Ultra High?
BlackSix
02-24-2011, 07:34 PM
BlackSix, you made the review, right?
In one of the screens one could see that you had Land detail on High. Is there something above high? I just wonder if we can get rid of the blurry ground textures by setting something higher?
Yes that's the screenshot i was referring to. But my question is if the Setting High is the highest or if there's something above like let's say Ultra High?
No, it is a limit
Hecke
02-24-2011, 07:37 PM
Thx for the answer.
While playing, does the field look as blurry like in the screenshot?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-9012642/13_IF.jpg.html
BlackSix
02-24-2011, 07:43 PM
Thx for the answer.
While playing, does the field look as blurry like in the screenshot?
http://www.pic-upload.de/view-9012642/13_IF.jpg.html
On my computer - yes. Probably, in the final version and on the maximum options it will be better.
LukeFF
02-24-2011, 07:49 PM
Well could not say it was " a lot".
A short visit and another 1 week trip .
But I am a countryman :)
Its called here " Roadbackadabauernbua. :)
You do not agree with me ? Thats pretty sad.
It's a documented fact that the sun did not come out during WWII. Therefore, it is entirely unrealistic to have a shot where the conditions are bright and sunny. :-P
Hecke
02-24-2011, 07:49 PM
On my computer - yes. Probably, in the final version and on the maximum options it will be better.
Land detail was already maxed out ... I can just hope.
kendo65
02-24-2011, 07:52 PM
There's a setting for 'Land Shading' which is set on low - may help things a bit.
Hecke
02-24-2011, 07:56 PM
There's a setting for 'Land Shading' which is set on low - may help things a bit.
Yes, could be. Hopefully it is :grin:
BlackSix, could you maybe test this? Would be great. But don't do it if you have better things to try out.
Koyan
02-24-2011, 07:58 PM
My 2 cents:
The second shot (photoshopped one) indeed looks like a shaded world under a clear blue sky. Wonder how that would look when cloud shadows come into play?
Everything is oke except the greens and if you ask me, it's over-saturation. When modders change the green a little it's resolved.
furbs
02-24-2011, 08:00 PM
Blacksix...thanks for the preview.
Can i ask a question?
What did you think of the sound, smoke and fire affects?
And your overall rating for COD on the version you tried?
cheers.
BlackSix
02-24-2011, 08:02 PM
My 2 cents:
The second shot (photoshopped one) indeed looks like a shaded world under a clear blue sky. Wonder how that would look when cloud shadows come into play?
Everything is oke except the greens and if you ask me, it's over-saturation. When modders change the green a little it's resolved.
Here a good screenshot with shades:
BlackSix
02-24-2011, 08:11 PM
Blacksix...thanks for the preview.
Can i ask a question?
What did you think of the sound, smoke and fire affects?
And your overall rating for COD on the version you tried?
cheers.
Work on a sound isn't finished yet. Excuse, but I will not make comments.
The smoke and fire look perfectly, it is much better than in lL-2 ;)
The general estimation - the project has turned out excellent
Guys, excuse, but for today it is all
Royraiden
02-24-2011, 08:19 PM
Work on a sound isn't finished yet. Excuse, but I will not make comments.
The smoke and fire look perfectly, it is much better than in lL-2 ;)
The general estimation - the project has turned out excellent
Guys, excuse, but for today it is all
Thats enough, thanks a lot.
furbs
02-24-2011, 08:20 PM
Thanks Blacksix!
Koyan
02-24-2011, 08:48 PM
Here a good screenshot with shades:
Thanks a lot BlackSix. That looks good but would look awful on a shaded sunny England :grin:
Biggs
02-24-2011, 09:07 PM
Work on a sound isn't finished yet. Excuse, but I will not make comments.
The smoke and fire look perfectly, it is much better than in lL-2 ;)
The general estimation - the project has turned out excellent
Guys, excuse, but for today it is all
wonderful news Blacksix! :grin:
major_setback
02-24-2011, 09:16 PM
Thanks for finding these.
They were reproduced 1024x in size...
... so I will post the 1280 sized versions of the images (where I managed to find them), plus some others from that were linked/hidden from the site as was mentioned in the first post.
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_01_Setup.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_08_SP-1.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_07_SP-1.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_06_Setup.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_05_Setup.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_04_Setup.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_03_Setup.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_02_Setup.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_28_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_27_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_26_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_25_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_24_IFb.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_23_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_22_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_21_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_20_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_19_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_18_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_17_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_16_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_15_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_14_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_13_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_12_IF.jpg
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_11_IF.jpg
Triggaaar
02-24-2011, 09:20 PM
Thanks for posting these shots, it's looking great....spend a lot of time in England?
We know it's grim up north Letum, but those screenshots were taken dan saff ;)
TinyTim
02-24-2011, 09:21 PM
http://www.shrani.si/f/20/Xo/4g1pJHzZ/belting-options.jpg
Holy cow! After all the fuss about the ammo types in IL-2, we are getting a truckload of belting options now! :)
zakkandrachoff
02-24-2011, 10:19 PM
repost some Bf109E screens :-D
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127780&d=1298584787
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127781&d=1298584789
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127782&d=1298584792
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127783&d=1298584796
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127784&d=1298584799
i like the 109 cockpit in the ground!! (L)
http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=127718&d=1298537406
Zorin
02-24-2011, 10:28 PM
It is great to be able to actually read the manufacturers plate, these BF109s were build by the Erla Maschienenwerk - Leipzig, yet the trees in the river and mismatching ground texture plates and the odd coloring of the forrest ground is something I belived we had left behind after the Slovakia map set the bar for IL-2. Bit of a pitty.
Novotny
02-24-2011, 10:53 PM
Those 109 shots are giving me the... ack, damnit. Sex wee all over the shop. Nurse, quick - the towels!
major_setback
02-24-2011, 11:17 PM
I see someone over at sukhoi.ru has hit one nail on the head....
To me it looks like it is supposed to represent a newly harvested field (correctly). Brighton, England:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Brighton.jpg
http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/1102/bd/fa5fc1b2a8ac.jpg
http://s61.radikal.ru/i171/1102/cc/bf24b566b160.jpg
Hunden
02-24-2011, 11:33 PM
Work on a sound isn't finished yet. Excuse, but I will not make comments.
The smoke and fire look perfectly, it is much better than in lL-2 ;)
The general estimation - the project has turned out excellent
Guys, excuse, but for today it is all
WOW if I didn't know any better I'd say that sounded like Oleg.
major_setback
02-25-2011, 12:02 AM
These high res' 'renders' were posted by Luthier at Sukoi (then simHQ). I don't know if they are from the game, it seems like it is questionable if they are (the translation of his comment can be taken two ways):
http://simhq.com/forum/ubbthreads.php/topics/3216159/1.html
and discussed at UBI forums:
http://forums.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/8071032709/m/6181099119
Letum
02-25-2011, 12:17 AM
...spend a lot of time in England?
This was just rude. Sorry.
Coen020
02-25-2011, 12:26 AM
'I'm not drooling! Am i drooling? ... Apparently i'm drooling'
zapatista
02-25-2011, 01:10 AM
Yes great pics! Just a bit weird that people have to hunt all over the net for CoD info,rather than getting it here or at the publishers site, but thats part of the fun I guess...
that is only because we are now in the last few weeks before release, so the various people who very recently have been given pre release access (or were promotional material) now start to publicize it, and it is popping up all over the place
but as you noticed from last weeks event, any leaked in-game video clips from the pre-gold version get jumped on pretty quick by 1C to have it removed (so people dont get bad impressions from a non finished product by mistake)
up till this last phase of production, 90% of all BoB/SoW info was provided here in the last few years :)
zapatista
02-25-2011, 01:27 AM
To me it looks like it is supposed to represent a newly harvested field (correctly). Brighton, England:
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/Brighton.jpg
http://s58.radikal.ru/i162/1102/bd/fa5fc1b2a8ac.jpg
http://s61.radikal.ru/i171/1102/cc/bf24b566b160.jpg
good find, it looks pretty much spot on !! (for the recently harvested field)
i hate to say it, but the bright greens in the foliage and trees just looks to fluro to me in some of the other screenshots posted (not the one under discussion here with the fields). lush brigh green is possible in the south of england, but not the fluro brightness we still have in some of those other ( non final ?) screenshots. the other colors look fine to me, it just the greens used for england that are to strong. then again, if the greens in some of the other screenshots taken by the same person look fine, maybe it is a lighting effect under certain angles or conditions that makes it appear to strong in some other screenshots.
note: a few months ago we already had a 20 pg thread on this issue, no need to get sidetracked again :)
t4trouble
02-25-2011, 11:33 AM
The colours look fine to me,you see in top picture at the tail end of the a/c
theirs a field with a shadow of a cloud which make's the green look alot deeper.The bottom pic is way to dark,you can see this effect inside your own home even,look at your walls where sun light comes in if you have a wall in shadow
the paint on the walls will look like two different shade's.The picture does not
show overcast if it was the bottom picture would be the one i would like.
Clear skies brighter colours, overcast deeper colours
giovanni the ace
02-25-2011, 01:18 PM
Sweet customizable pilot! this games gonna be great.
Necrobaron
02-25-2011, 04:17 PM
the second shot is "more" England than the first...none are perfect though....because none can be.
That's how I feel though many are saying Britain has tropical green terrain in broad daylight so I guess we're mistaken.
TheGrunch
03-01-2011, 01:52 AM
That's how I feel though many are saying Britain has tropical green terrain in broad daylight so I guess we're mistaken.
+1 :rolleyes: If the game looks like perpetual, unnaturally bright sunrise conditions all the time I will have to get working on a colour profile in my GPU settings.
Unnecessary nitpick question #84172: Are the Defiant's guns pointing forward into the propeller arc in that second-last screen on the first page? Could they physically do that, i.e. was the interrupter due to being unable to traverse the guns into that position or was it simply a lock on the guns firing that didn't affect traversal?
Heliocon
03-01-2011, 09:12 PM
Graphics look low resolution and shoddy - even the calender ones. I can cook up something that looks far far better in design garage in 15mins on my home pc...
Letum
03-01-2011, 09:37 PM
Graphics look low resolution and shoddy - even the calender ones. I can cook up something that looks far far better in design garage in 15mins on my home pc...
...go on then...
Singmann
03-01-2011, 10:00 PM
Unnecessary nitpick question #84172: Are the Defiant's guns pointing forward into the propeller arc in that second-last screen on the first page? Could they physically do that, i.e. was the interrupter due to being unable to traverse the guns into that position or was it simply a lock on the guns firing that didn't affect traversal?
No I think they are pointing to the plane's 8/9 o'clock
TheGrunch
03-01-2011, 10:43 PM
No I think they are pointing to the plane's 8/9 o'clock
Haha, yeah, looks like you might be right. That'll teach me to look at these little details without my glasses on.
Heliocon
03-02-2011, 10:27 AM
...go on then...
Done :rolleyes:
Unfortuently most image hosting websites dont let you upload a 1920x1200 image because of the size.
Raytracing is ftw
Meusli
03-02-2011, 11:16 AM
Done :rolleyes:
Unfortuently most image hosting websites dont let you upload a 1920x1200 image because of the size.
Raytracing is ftw
You could downscale it though so we could look at your masterpiece. Unless of course you are talking nonsense which I suspect you are.
major_setback
03-02-2011, 10:33 PM
+1 :rolleyes: If the game looks like perpetual, unnaturally bright sunrise conditions all the time I will have to get working on a colour profile in my GPU settings.
Unnecessary nitpick question #84172: Are the Defiant's guns pointing forward into the propeller arc in that second-last screen on the first page? Could they physically do that, i.e. was the interrupter due to being unable to traverse the guns into that position or was it simply a lock on the guns firing that didn't affect traversal?
About the defiant interrupter gear..there is an interesting anecdote earlier in the thread if I remember correctly, and useful information on the plane:
http://forum.keypublishing.com/showthread.php?p=1658693
http://i73.photobucket.com/albums/i234/phylo_roadking/Defiantpilot.jpg
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TheGrunch
03-02-2011, 10:38 PM
Thanks major setback! :) There's another crap-plane I wouldn't mind flying sometime.
major_setback
03-02-2011, 11:03 PM
Yes, it would be a great one to fly.
On the larger version of the screenshots (which can be found on the original site, or in the link in my signature),
you can see that the guns are pointing to the side:
http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/shot_20110224_24_IFb.jpg
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