1C and Ubisoft Announce IL-2 Sturmovik: Cliffs of Dover

[zauii]

;213671']This is where I have alot of faith in Oleg, he would not sign a deal with UBI if he thought there was an ice cubes chance in hell of them screwing this up.

Quoted for truth.
Now I hope all DRM pussies will stand up and buy this game, we need to support these few rare great PC titles, finally 2011 shall be a year of great PC gaming after a few bald years..
And as mentioned before, there is no way in hell Oleg lets all his work slip into some clusterfuck fail with UBI after all these years of hard development and research.

I think the trailer looks absolutely stunning in most parts especially cockpits and lightning , yet some people whine incredibly about it.. since when did you become graphic whores..? you all know this game has
so much more under the hood than just the eye candy, besides the WOP style graphics at some locations isn't necessarily a bad thing as WOP doesn't look bad at all
graphically, and this is leaps ahead of anything the IL2 engine could achieve even with mods and/or "high-res" textures which some claim to be equally on par with Cliffs of Dover.(pathetic)

[Nike-it]

HD version of the official trailer can be downloaded here (http://www.1cfiles.com/IL2_CliffsofDover/IL2CoD.avi).

[K_Freddie]

Quoted for truth.
Now I hope all DRM pussies will stand up and buy this game, we need to support these few rare great PC titles
You shouldn't worry about the support, it's there... just not the DRM way ;)


And as mentioned before, there is no way in hell Oleg lets all his work slip into some clusterfuck fail with UBI after all these years of hard development and research.
Oleg has had run-ins with UBI management with the IL2 series. Thank goodness he did not let them 'rule' him and the IL2 development (SH3/4/5 are examples of a good sim series going progressively bad).

CoD development looks to be divorced of UBI influence, and maybe Oleg/1C are using UBI for wider distribution which is good business sense. This being the case hopefully the 'contract' is controlled by 1C which would be better for all of us - here's hoping :)

[Flying_Nutcase]

Great news. Congrats Oleg & Team on getting it to the finishing post :-)

[Blackdog_kt]

;213671']This is where I have alot of faith in Oleg, he would not sign a deal with UBI if he thought there was an ice cubes chance in hell of them screwing this up.

This is exactly what i'm hoping as well. Once you sign it's over, so i seriously doubt he'd let his greatest achievement so far and countless work hours of his team be marred in any way, without first threatening to take it to a different publisher in order to get better terms.

Come to think of it, in the limited amount of predictions and wishlist items i've expressed over the years i managed to land a score. I have wanted detailed systems and engine modelling, along with a persistent online campaign mode and both of them happened. Maybe i'll be lucky and score a hit on this one too so we can all fly unhindered by artificially tacked-on "external" software :grin:

P.S. That buddy of mine i recently got into IL2? He's not only already contemplating about getting on board with the new series, he's actually thinking of getting the collector's edition as well. If all goes well and it's working as it should right out of the box, i might be able to push a couple of extra copies to some of my other gamer buddies as well, thanks to the training missions and tiger moth plus mutli-crew feature.

[Azimech]

I am VERY satisfied with this news, not an ounce of negativity over here.

Couldn't have said it better!

[BigPickle]

excellent news :)

[Tvrdi]

hell yeah!

[VO101_HWick]

The last time I saw a community getting so excited was some weeks prior to the release of UBISOFT's Silent Hunter IV.........

http://www.shipwrecksofegypt.com/images/sinkingsub.jpg

In March 2010 (!) UBISOFT released Silent Hunter IV and the support already stopped on December 1st 2010 ! (http://forums-de.ubi.com/eve/forums/a/tpc/f/3431013487/m/1451048598) UBISOFT closed down the producing romanian branch office. As the matter of fact the community is dead and we all wasted € 45,00 for a DRM infested, buggy, unfinished piece of s....oftware with a campaing ending in 1943 ! :roll: So UBISOFT already screwed one of my favourite games and I HOPE AND PRAY that they will not do the same with the other one. Don't get me wrong, but I'm not that excited ! UBISOFT turned into a greedy company protecting the interests of their shareholders only. They don't give a sh*t for their customers. Remembering UPLAY.......:shock:

Anyway, I'm an optimist and will of course support Oleg efforts....4 weeks after the release.

P.S.: Although it is probably a rhetorical question; will there be a dedicated server for IL2 Sturmovik "Cliffs over Dover" ? ;)

It was the SH5 not the 4th my friend:rolleyes:

[Tvrdi]

btw, what are the recommended system spec? Should be listed now when we know it will be launched in 2 months...

[TheSwede]

Congratulations from Sweden Oleg and the team!

If feels almost unreal to read the official statement.

I couldnt care less about DRM, the missing system requirements, how certain words are spelled or what kind of quality of the official trailer.

All these things are just minor issues now that we finally will be able to explore and enjoy Oleg and 1C´s latest creation.

For a long time I´ve missed the special feeling you got as a child just before Christmas, waiting to throw your hands on all the presents.

Thank you Oleg for letting me feel like a child again! This is just fantastic!

Best Regards
Simon "8 year old" Lindblad

[schnorchel]

it's BOB or just a new series use il2 engine?

[JG52Wolfen]

many thanks for this gift, now i will wait for the collector edition

[Ibis]

"Never in the field of flight simulation was so much owed by so many to so few."

Thanks.

[Richie]

it's BOB or just a new series use il2 engine?


It's a whole new game they've been working on for seven years, Made by Maddox games but totally new. Not IL-2 engine.

[Therion_Prime]

My local gamestore lists the sim at €57.99 and the CE at €79.99.

CE preordered!

WOOT!

[schnorchel]

It's a whole new game they've been working on for seven years, Made by Maddox games but totally new. Not IL-2 engine.

Thank you for the explaination, Richie. So that means it's BOB but change a new name?

[Tvrdi]

Thank you for the explaination, Richie. So that means it's BOB but change a new name?

yeah....anybody knows when they will publish recommended system spec?

[Kwiatek]

How everybody looks tracers in offical trailer?

I hope so that it is very old trailer and in game tracers will be less lasers. Now it looks little like in Star Wars.

[ElAurens]

It seems the usual suspects have once again missed the fact that the trailer was made using Luthier's low/mid spec computer running a beta build of the game.

To date there has not been any content shown that is using the release version of the sim, that I am aware of, and I follow these boards like a hawk.

Stop the silly nitpicking.

[Tvrdi]

It seems the usual suspects have once again missed the fact that the trailer was made using Luthier's low/mid spec computer running a beta build of the game.

To date there has not been any content shown that is using the release version of the sim, that I am aware of, and I follow these boards like a hawk.

Stop the silly nitpicking.

yep we can only speculate but Oleg did a good job on optimisations in past...

[addman]

Finally, me moving to Finland is paying off. Check out the release date, 3/3 http://www.puolenkuunpelit.com/kauppa/product_info.php?products_id=49941:cool:
Must be incorrect or something.

[Tvrdi]

Finally, me moving to Finland is paying off. Check out the release date, 3/3 http://www.puolenkuunpelit.com/kauppa/product_info.php?products_id=49941:cool:
Must be incorrect or something.

hmm shouldnt be somewhere a downloadable verrsion? 21st century hello heh

[klem]

As far as my ability to translate spangrish goes I'd say it really refers to 'renegade' Poles, Czechs, French and other pilots from occupied nations, volunteer foreigners, and volunteers from the Commonwealth.

I'm sure it's not some half-arsed "plot device" thing, that would just be stupid.

So excited to actually have a firm date!

You have to remember this is a Spanish website and Spain was sympathetic to the Axis powers so to them those guys would be 'renegades'.

No! No! I'm just joking!

[addman]

hmm shouldnt be somewhere a downloadable verrsion? 21st century hello heh

Ehr, I live in Finland, I moved here a year ago from Sweden, do you understand?

[rakinroll]

Great news, thanks.

[chiefrr73]

Small interview with Luthier :http://www.neocrisis.com/articles/198-gaming-interviews/6459-il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover-interview

[chiefrr73]

This is the last sentenc of the interview with Luthier, wich is impressing me a lot: "Be bold. Work hard. Don't cut corners; people can tell. Listen to your community. Know exactly what they want, and give them plenty."

[Skoshi Tiger]

Small interview with Luthier :http://www.neocrisis.com/articles/198-gaming-interviews/6459-il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover-interview

[QUOTE] We were starting our engine anew, and we thought it would be best to place the game early in the war so we could advance through the years with our sequels and take our players through the war step by step exactly the way real pilots did.[\QUOTE]

I don't think my wife could stand me in a five year straight progression through the aerial battles of WWII! Do you think she will let me visit the kids when I'm on Furlough? ;)

Cheers!

[chiefrr73]

The same here lolol

[whatnot]

You shouldn't worry about the support, it's there... just not the DRM way ;)

Enough with the DRM already. There has been feedback about DRM for the past years about three billion times. What do you think the odds are that all of that feedback + Oleg's common sense would have been missed and now that they see this dribble on the 11th hour there will be an emergency meeting to change the DRM strategy of the upcoming release? Wake up.

It's decided already, it's going to be what it's going to be and I have a hunch it will be good.

Personally I would buy and play the game even if it would stab me in the gut with a swiss army knife every time I start it up. If you won't buy it due to a need for being online or whatever, fine, but don't spam that BS here over and over again. Let it go.

(All of a sudden I realized I'm guilty of forum policing.. I surpirise myself. I guess we all have our limits :o)

[kirq]

I've just pre-ordered collector's edition. Can't wait! :)

http://www.gram.pl/upl/news/120110119104353.jpg

[ATAG_Dutch]

Blimy...:grin::confused::eek::(:grin:

Agreed.

Am now unable to concentrate on work whatsoever.

There is also a pool of drool on my desk.:(:grin:

[Doogerie]

yeah i pre-ordered collector's edition yesterday off UBI i must of done it just in time as apparently people can only order the stranded edition now but that's just what I herd from the US i think people in the UK may still be abel to get it if not amazon De has it to buy now but if you buy it off UBI you also get a free downlode of SH3

[Triggaaar]

I hope so that it is very old trailer and in game tracers will be less lasers. Now it looks little like in Star Wars.This has been discussed at length in the update threads. Tracers do look a lot like star wars lazers in real life. You'll find that these details will be more accurate in the new game than anything you've previously enjoyed.

[Richie]

I'll have to wait for a site that takes paypal.

[Tvrdi]

Ehr, I live in Finland, I moved here a year ago from Sweden, do you understand?

I think you misunderstood me....if there will be (soon after release of copies) a downloable version (you pay via paypal or credit card and get a key + download link) you can get it wherever you are....on the planet....if you have internet conn that is..

[speculum jockey]

What I'd really like to know is if there is a purchase/distribution method for those of us in N. America to purchase the game so that Ubisoft gets as little of our money as possible and Oleg and Co. get the most. I want the game, but I would prefere it doesn't go towards Ubisoft so their executives can go on trips to Thailand . . . for. . . well that's a job for interpol.

[Matt255]

Would be great to know, if that 120 page handbook will be included in the other versions in digital form (PDF format).

[eshati]

Very nice news, but is this the game we were waiting for "Battle of Britain", or is it a pre release version of it?

[Azimech]

I'm inclined to buy the collector's edition, printing out that whole manual costs me a lot of toner which I can use for better things.

[Gnomie]

While I'm as thrilled as anyone about this, I fear it's a bad move by the marketing department to change the name "in the last minute". As I understood it, the plan was to make a NEW series of games called Storm of War, in which Battle of Britain would be the first installment. That would make perfect sense.

Since they decided to keep the Sturmovik name, there's a chance that customers will think "oh it's just another expansion for that ancient game" and move on. But on the other hand, Sturmovik is a well established brand name.. so who knows what's better??

Anyway I don't care too much! Looking forward to flying again! :grin:

[Flying Pencil]

w0000000000000000000000000t!!!

[Flying Pencil]

While I'm as thrilled as anyone about this, I fear it's a bad move by the marketing department to change the name "in the last minute". As I understood it, the plan was to make a NEW series of games called Storm of War, in which Battle of Britain would be the first installment. That would make perfect sense.

Since they decided to keep the Sturmovik name, there's a chance that customers will think "oh it's just another expansion for that ancient game" and move on. But on the other hand, Sturmovik is a well established brand name.. so who knows what's better??


WE (the customers) DO!

They should have said "By the makers of IL-2 Sturmovik"

HUGE difference

[PeterPanPan]

HD version of the official trailer can be downloaded here (http://www.1cfiles.com/IL2_CliffsofDover/IL2CoD.avi).

Great, thanks! :)

[kirq]

Very nice news, but is this the game we were waiting for "Battle of Britain", or is it a pre release version of it?

I believe it's the same game with new title forced by publisher (ubisoft).

[Chivas]

Small interview with Luthier :http://www.neocrisis.com/articles/198-gaming-interviews/6459-il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover-interview

Thanks for the link. It was great to hear they had that much fun developing the game. My only concern now is their next addon to the series, when Luthier said there will be alot raised eyebrows when its announced. I think it may now be something other than the Med.

We know Luthier is developing IL-2 Korea and another third party developing IL-2 Battle for Moscow. It was strongly rumored that Oleg was going to do the Med, but I'm not so sure now. Its all good and let the speculation begin.

[Richie]

Thanks for the link. It was great to hear they had that much fun developing the game. My only concern now is their next addon to the series, when Luthier said there will be alot raised eyebrows when its announced. I think it may now be something other than the Med.

We know Luthier is developing IL-2 Korea and another third party developing IL-2 Battle for Moscow. It was strongly rumored that Oleg was going to do the Med, but I'm not so sure now. Its all good and let the speculation begin.

Don't drive me crazy Tree transplant :)

[ogier]

Hello,

Congratulation for the whole team, that's really great news. The flight school part is a really great idea.

Maybe I have missed something in the various announcements, but will there be a mission editor in IL2/COD ?

Best regards,

Ogier

[kestrel79]

Yeah hmmm I wonder what the next addon will be. I'm trying to think of some really obscure ww2 battles that haven't been touched before in a sim.

India? Burma? Italy?

[esmiol]

i thought that the first addon will be Korea? no?

[zauii]

Good interview :P

[rodeo]

i thought that the first addon will be Korea? no?

We heard about "Battle for Moscow" as possible next add-on during Igromir 2010...

Korea may appear later...

++

sniv

[Chivas]

We heard about "Battle for Moscow" as possible next add-on during Igromir 2010...

Korea may appear later...

++

sniv

Both those addons are by third parties although Luthier is much more than a third party now.

The question is what is Oleg going to do next.

[JG52Uther]

The question is what is Oleg going to do next.

A long holiday somewhere remote with no internet or telephone would be my guess! ;)

[SlipBall]

Thanks for the link. It was great to hear they had that much fun developing the game. My only concern now is their next addon to the series, when Luthier said there will be alot raised eyebrows when its announced. I think it may now be something other than the Med.

We know Luthier is developing IL-2 Korea and another third party developing IL-2 Battle for Moscow. It was strongly rumored that Oleg was going to do the Med, but I'm not so sure now. Its all good and let the speculation begin.


The only thing that would raise my eyebrows, would be a civilian add on.:grin:

[rebel357]

Were the system specs posted for this yet? Oh and Hey! Im new :)

[brando]

Hello,

Congratulation for the whole team, that's really great news. The flight school part is a really great idea.

Maybe I have missed something in the various announcements, but will there be a mission editor in IL2/COD ?

Best regards,

Ogier

Yeah. Views of the new Mission Editor/ Builder were shown in a recent update.

B

[Codex]

There is a full German campaign. Please calm down. The announcement is just a little incomplete.

Sorry about the confusion!

I was getting worried reading through these pages ... ;)

[ElAurens]

The only thing that would raise my eyebrows, would be a civilian add on.:grin:

Boredom beyond belief.

[SlipBall]

Boredom beyond belief.



Yep...but still the only one that would surprise me.:grin:

[ElAurens]

True enough.

Unless Oleg has decided to do WW1, with proper DMs and real ground objects and a world that feels alive.

:cool:

[Avimimus]

Boredom beyond belief.

With the current level of fidelity? It would just be boredom (or boredom with belief).

The landscape details and flight modeling should add a lot to civilian flight (and if Oleg incorporates cargo loading and unloading animations and a navigator who actually says things...)

[ElAurens]

I have to admit I am very curious about the Sukhoi 26 that will be in the game. (I hope it still is).

It will be interesting on several levels. One, as proof of the game engine and FM/physics modeling, as the SU 26 is probably one of the most understood aircraft around, and, it will be a hoot to take the 26 against folks in armed aircraft and see if they can lay a glove on it.

;)

[SlipBall]

I have to admit I am very curious about the Sukhoi 26 that will be in the game. (I hope it still is).

It will be interesting on several levels. One, as proof of the game engine and FM/physics modeling, as the SU 26 is probably one of the most understood aircraft around, and, it will be a hoot to take the 26 against folks in armed aircraft and see if they can lay a glove on it.

;)


Yes, that one aircraft and the hordes of MS fans out there. Causes me to think civilian is a strong possibility direction for the engine...early add on that is:grin:

[Ploughman]

I have to admit I am very curious about the Sukhoi 26 that will be in the game. (I hope it still is).

It will be interesting on several levels. One, as proof of the game engine and FM/physics modeling, as the SU 26 is probably one of the most understood aircraft around, and, it will be a hoot to take the 26 against folks in armed aircraft and see if they can lay a glove on it.

;)

I wonder if Oleg gave the Su-26 a damage model?

[Baron]

Thanks for the link. It was great to hear they had that much fun developing the game. My only concern now is their next addon to the series, when Luthier said there will be alot raised eyebrows when its announced. I think it may now be something other than the Med.

We know Luthier is developing IL-2 Korea and another third party developing IL-2 Battle for Moscow. It was strongly rumored that Oleg was going to do the Med, but I'm not so sure now. Its all good and let the speculation begin.

Maby Battle of France, pre. BoB?

[ElAurens]

Maby Battle of France, pre. BoB?

Would be great, but would require modeling a large number of never done French aircraft, that could be quite time consuming.

On the upside we would have a high fidelity Curtiss Hawk 75, and that is a good thing.

http://www.asisbiz.com/il2/P-36/Hawk-75A3-FAF-GCI.5-No204/images/1-Hawk-75A-French-Airforce-Battle-of-France-1939-12.jpg

http://100letaviatiky.cz/content/wys_program/1_hawk75.jpg

[Chivas]

Maby Battle of France, pre. BoB?

i don't think so, not enough interest from a monetary standpoint. They will leave the small theaters to third parties and concentrate on the larger theaters. I know BOB wasn't a large theater but they had a game engine to build as well as the theater, so BOB was a perfect, recognizable, small early war theater to start off at.

I used to think there was an 80% chance it would be the Med, but I have no clue now. Unless they decide to work with the third party doing IL-2 Battle for Moscow and expand it into a more complete Russian theater.

[heywooood]

dammit this schtuff is exciting....I think I just got Wooooooood

[Jatta Raso]

well gents, time has come to make the legend come true. i've been saving my first post for this, for quite some years now...

so we'll all be happier soon. maybe broker, but happy! three cheers for Oleg and his crew! see you guys online!!!

'Jatta Raso' AKA 'UFO113'

http://img232.imageshack.us/f/signaturesmaller.jpg/

[lbuchele]

Yes, that one aircraft and the hordes of MS fans out there. Causes me to think civilian is a strong possibility direction for the engine...early add on that is:grin:
Oleg is always telling us about how flexible and strong is the CoD engine.
I think the truly masterpiece is not the Battle of Britain itself,but what is under the hood,the engine.
My hope is in the future some third party decide to explore early jets not only in the fifties (korea) but in the sixties too (Israel and Vietnam)
It will be amazing to fight in a Mirage III,F4,F8 or Mig21 made in Oleg's standards with the inaccurate early missiles and radars.

[Richie]

That would be cool for the future or a completely different game Viet Nam a Mig 21 :)

I can hear Purple Haze blasting in the headphones now :)

That's the cool thing about Viet Nam it was happening when the best music was happeng.

[caprera]

From a monetary point of view every theatre except Western/Eastern European air war and the Pacific are on the negative side.

I hoped for long that interested could be lifted introducing a less common scenario like the Mediterranean. I'll keep wishing. You never know...

[Old_Canuck]

Yeeees ! Soon, you'll fear the 110 that you had not noticed in your 6 !

Genuinely laughed out loud :lol: I don't believe you've shot me down, Oktoberfest. But only because you let me join your crew from time to time. Looking forward winging with you in CoD:IL2.

[Heliocon]

Quoted for truth.
Now I hope all DRM pussies will stand up and buy this game, we need to support these few rare great PC titles, finally 2011 shall be a year of great PC gaming after a few bald years..
And as mentioned before, there is no way in hell Oleg lets all his work slip into some clusterfuck fail with UBI after all these years of hard development and research.

I think the trailer looks absolutely stunning in most parts especially cockpits and lightning , yet some people whine incredibly about it.. since when did you become graphic whores..? you all know this game has
so much more under the hood than just the eye candy, besides the WOP style graphics at some locations isn't necessarily a bad thing as WOP doesn't look bad at all
graphically, and this is leaps ahead of anything the IL2 engine could achieve even with mods and/or "high-res" textures which some claim to be equally on par with Cliffs of Dover.(pathetic)

Well of course the mechanics, gameplay and other things are the core and most important foundations for a good game. Its just that when I watched the trailer and saw all the jaggies, I cant help but notice/pay attention to them. A few years ago I would not of cared, now I do since they are no longer present with a good res monitor and AA.

Its like when you buy a HD tv (good one), and watch a HD movie its great. Then you go and watch a 360/240 res youtube video on your new shiny large screen HD tv. It is hard not to be distracted...
Thats why I mentioned it. But like I said the cockpit was spectacular, as was its lighting. I will state the good and the bad as I see it, because I care... :)

[Robert]

Oleg is always telling us about how flexible and strong is the CoD engine.
I think the truly masterpiece is not the Battle of Britain itself,but what is under the hood,the engine.
.

I agree 100%. I hope he makes a bucket-loader full of money. I can envision many a scenario arising from this engine.

1C may be the next ID for flight sim games. How many shooters were created from the ID engine? I can only hope for that same success for 1C.

It's not the polish of BoB I'm excited for. It's the possibilities of what lays ahead in the next few years.



My guess for the next installment? Flying Tigers: Manchuria. (Well I can hope, can't I?)

[K_Freddie]

Enough with the DRM already. There has been feedback about DRM for the past years about three billion times. What do you think the odds are that all of that feedback + Oleg's common sense would have been missed and now that they see this dribble on the 11th hour there will be an emergency meeting to change the DRM strategy of the upcoming release? Wake up.
My, you are asleep.. don't go all 'groupie fanboy' on me.. I also like the series.
As there's no concrete confirmation about the type of DRM, I reserve my judgement.. and if it's is the SH5 style of DRM, you can be guaranteed of 12hour emergency meeting
;)

[WhiteSnake]

Would be really nice to atleast know some Official Minimum and Recomended System Requirements before it commes out...

[caprera]

My guess for the next installment? Flying Tigers: Manchuria. (Well I can hope, can't I?)

Sure you do honey, but Mediterrean first :grin:

[FlyingShark]

Sure you do honey, but Mediterrean first :grin:
Does that mean that we will fly the P40 relatively soon in this series:grin:?

~S~

[Screamadelica]

I've got that warm fuzzy feeling again, lovely. Congratulations Oleg.

[Defender]

Would be really nice to atleast know some Official Minimum and Recomended System Requirements before it commes out...

I'm sure those system specs you seek will reveal themselves, but not before the intense and time sensitive optimization period the sim will go through. Giving system specs before they're universal is a huge mistake. i'm sure they're aware the next question after "what's the release date"? is "what are the system specs". If you have a 4 year old computer that was mid range back then, it might be time for an upgrade, but who the hell knows. Most sims these days are easily customizable so with the right balance in video options you can obtain decent fps until you can afford that computer upgrade.

I always just assume I will have to run everything on medium and go from there ;)

[blottogg]

I'd like to add my own "WOOT", and thanks to Oleg, Ilya and the rest of the crew. You do good work.

It took me a couple of pages to confirm this is in fact the flight sim formerly known as SoW:BoB, and not another addition to the original Il-2 series. Guess I've got to increase my lurking in this forum past the Friday update pages.

It turns out my old graphics card knew more than I did. My BFG 9800GT (DX9) died last week, to be replaced (at cost, as it seems BFG isn't honoring their warranty any more) with a eVGA GTX460 (DX11). The old card took itself out behind the barn, sacrificing itself so that I could enjoy the upcoming CoD in all its DX11 glory.

As soon as I can figure out how to pre-order the collector's edition in the States, I'll sign myself up. To the carpers, know that it won't be perfect on day one. There will be bugs, and perhaps features you don't like. Be ready to submit the bug reports, and to turn off the stuff you don't want to use. Try to keep the criticism constructive, as that will let you vent while still doing us all some good. We're close to the next chapter of 1C flight sims, and it's going to be a good chapter.

"Now this is not the end. It is not even the beginning of the end. But it is, perhaps, the end of the beginning." - Winston Churchill

[KG66_Phantom]

Thanks to Ilya and the crew for persisting and getting this to the final hurdle, lets hope P40s cant carry a 10000lb bomb 20000 mils at 300000 feet :grin:

Phantom

[ckolonko]

What does it mean by fight against renegade pilots in the first post?

[Sasha]

Sure you do honey, but Mediterrean first :grin:

+1 Mediterrean first !!!

But No DRM!!!

[David603]

What does it mean by fight against renegade pilots in the first post?
Probably another translation error, I think this means fly alongside the Polish/Czech/American/etc pilots who fought with the RAF during the Battle of Britain.

[Igo kyu]

What does it mean by fight against renegade pilots in the first post?
Probably another translation error, I think this means fly alongside the Polish/Czech/American/etc pilots who fought with the RAF during the Battle of Britain.
Could also mean the battle of Barking Creek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Barking_Creek

:confused: :cry:

I really hope something like that's not going to be a regular occurrence.

[kirq]

Probably another translation error, I think this means fly alongside the Polish/Czech/American/etc pilots who fought with the RAF during the Battle of Britain.

It would be great if there were Polish squadrons in the game!

Especially 303 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzEkL5n7gXA

[Mad G]

I've just pre-ordered collector's edition. Can't wait! :)

http://www.gram.pl/upl/news/120110119104353.jpg

Where did you get it? A link, please? Thanks,

[Skoshi Tiger]

Could also mean the battle of Barking Creek.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Barking_Creek

:confused: :cry:

I really hope something like that's not going to be a regular occurrence.

This doesn't have much to do with renagades. From my understanding, 'The Battle of Barking Creek' was caused by a systems error on the radar causing the ground controllers to vectored to the Spitfire squadron to the vacinity of a squadron of Hurricanes, The relative inexperience of the pilots involved and not having a positive identification of the targets.

Later in the war I guess they would have refered to the situation as FUBAR.

It did however give the RAF reason to analyse what went wrong and try their best to work out how to avoid a similar thing happening in the future.

Cheers!

[Igo kyu]

This doesn't have much to do with renagades.
Sure.

However it has a lot to do with being bounced by friendlies. I'm just saying that if one mission in ten we get an attempted (AI) friendly fire incident, that would be a horrible thing.

[kirq]

Where did you get it? A link, please? Thanks,

http://sklep.gry-online.pl/KartaProduktu.aspx?id=3259&k=il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover-edycja-kolekcjonerska

[zapatista]

The only thing that would raise my eyebrows, would be a civilian add on.

Boredom beyond belief.

there is a logical next step into that direction however, and that is adding non combat features into the combat sim to make it a more realistic real life world

for ex, ejecting as a pilot over enemy territory should allow you to then land in a field and interact with you environment. climb over a fence, ride a bicicle or steal a parked car/truck. maybe even sneak at night into an enemy airfield and try and pinch an unguarded enemy plane and try and make it home

that scenario doesnt have to go to the absurd level of making SoW/BoB/CoD a 1e person shooter or action game, it just needs to open up the pilot interaction with your environment (for ex enemy guard will only shoot at you if they see you, or if a passing vehicle notices you etc). oleg already added features like being able to open doors on vehicles and planes, moving objects like boxes and bicicles, driving a car, walk around inside a plane etc (many of those not included in CoD first release, but built into the engine to allow later expansion)

in the same vein we should in future be able to fly some supply missions to airfields or troops (eg a non combat aviation mission), do photo reconnaissance and have our photo's available in the mission briefing rooms for other squad mates to view and plan a mission, etc. some myopic combat aviation purists might not get the point (and choose not so fly those missions etc should it become available, which is fine), but it would open up interest from a whole new range of customers who otherwise might not buy the sim (for ex ms-fs-9/10 users etc). whatever expansion in that direction i just mentioned, should of course be in context of the combat flightsim product this game is, but there is lots more to expand into rather then just shoot'emup and bomb the crap out of something for yrs on end

[ckolonko]

This doesn't have much to do with renagades. From my understanding, 'The Battle of Barking Creek' was caused by a systems error on the radar causing the ground controllers to vectored to the Spitfire squadron to the vacinity of a squadron of Hurricanes, The relative inexperience of the pilots involved and not having a positive identification of the targets.

Later in the war I guess they would have refered to the situation as FUBAR.

It did however give the RAF reason to analyse what went wrong and try their best to work out how to avoid a similar thing happening in the future.

Cheers!

I also know there were a number of FF incidents during the battle due to fatigue and stress.

[zapatista]

excellent news on the close release date !!

big thanks to oleg and crew for their hard work and perseverance :)

even a cloth map in the special edition release, AND a ring binder pilots manual, nice job !! cant wait to get my copy :)

[brando]

Sure.

However it has a lot to do with being bounced by friendlies. I'm just saying that if one mission in ten we get an attempted (AI) friendly fire incident, that would be a horrible thing.

Check any online dictionary for the word "renegade" and you will see that this word has been used in error and doesn't convey any significance.
It may possibly be a horrible mistranslation concerning pilots from Axis-occupied countries who escaped to England to fight on. Poles, Czechs, French, Belgians etc. might possibly have been portrayed as renegades in Nazi propaganda, but otherwise there is little connection.

As far as friendly fire incidents are concerned, the"Battle of Barking Creek" was a horrible accident waiting to happen. Whether it would be modelled as a recurring threat in the game is an interesting question, though I can't see why it should happen. More interesting is whether (and how often) you might make the same mistake yourself? ;)
Identification Friend [or] Foe (IFF) protocols were really tightened up after the aforementioned incident. The universal fitting of IFF beacons was hurriedly completed and everyone from pilots to plotters learnt from the mistake. That's not to say that further accidents didn't happen in the heat of battle - but the incidents were few and far between after Barking Creek.
There's no record of anyone changing their loyalties and turning on their comrades - renegade style.

[krz9000]

that trailer was quite underwhelming :( still the camera has no human shake or momentum. 80% of the footage is above water...and the time we see land its middle to high altitude. ..and how come they create a trailer that shows the game to the global public on a shitty machine that is not able to apply anti-aliasing? next thing that comes to mind is again the idiotic focus on canned mission design...WTF?!?!?! only a few simheads what to play historic missions with almost no replay value. what would have mattered is that they create a game...as in a dynamic mission creation system like in falcon4 where you as a player fell like you achieve something,....to ignore this important feature is just idiotic. a least there is hope that external tools will build that...but how many casual gamers will invest their time to figure out how a mod works (most mods i know dont really care about intuitive guis and so on).

i will buy this game anyway but i fear that its the same stale gameplay experience like il2. and guys...simulations and gameplay do not contradict themself.

[brando]

So I pre-ordered the Collectors issue, and I'm looking forward to my souvenir tea-towel and fly-swatter. Hurrah! :)

B

[rebel357]

The H75 and H81 which is the P40 variant France recieved has been modeled in another sim for quite a long time. WWW.Battlegroundeurope.com


here is the H75

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/5/5f/Ac_fr_hawk_75.jpg

and the H81

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/8/85/Ac_fr_hawk_81.jpg

They also modeled the Dewotine D520

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/c/c3/Ac_fr_d-520.jpg

The H87 which is a P40E with 6 fifty cals

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/d/d1/H87.jpg

and the P38 Lightening the French ordered as a P322 which has been modeled with counter rotating props.

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/1/13/Ac_fr_p-38f.jpg

Ive played this game for 10 years its been out and I am looking forward to playing this new game as well.

Cheers
Reb

[zapatista]

that trailer was quite underwhelming :( still the camera has no human shake or momentum. 80% of the footage is above water...and the time we see land its middle to high altitude. ..and how come they create a trailer that shows the game to the global public on a shitty machine that is not able to apply anti-aliasing?

because is not actually finished of course you whiner !!

your also right now only seeing the first of many trailers, and quality will rapidly improve in them the closer to release date we get. the good news about this announcement and trailer release is that oleg and ubi is now committed to a specific release date and the project is in its final stage with a fixed deadline (but the final build has not gone "gold"). they still have a month or 2 to squeeze more performance out of their final build, and low altitude scenery quality will be the final proof of the pudding. pressing the cd's for final shipping and packing them into the finished boxes takes a week at max

we have been waiting for months for a final product to be released, and all you can do is complain when we get it ?

[brando]

that trailer was quite underwhelming :( still the camera has no human shake or momentum. 80% of the footage is above water...and the time we see land its middle to high altitude. ..and how come they create a trailer that shows the game to the global public on a shitty machine that is not able to apply anti-aliasing? next thing that comes to mind is again the idiotic focus on canned mission design...WTF?!?!?! only a few simheads what to play historic missions with almost no replay value. what would have mattered is that they create a game...as in a dynamic mission creation system like in falcon4 where you as a player fell like you achieve something,....to ignore this important feature is just idiotic. a least there is hope that external tools will build that...but how many casual gamers will invest their time to figure out how a mod works (most mods i know dont really care about intuitive guis and so on).

i will buy this game anyway but i fear that its the same stale gameplay experience like il2. and guys...simulations and gameplay do not contradict themself.

It's hard to see how you will enjoy the game with that attitude. You say that you play IL-2 and yet you don't seem to have found any of the thousands of player-created missions and campaigns that are available, or joined any on-line scenarios and teamed up with other pilots.
Anyone can tell you that advertising sucks anyway. Using a five-bladed razor and wearing Lynx deodorant doesn't mean your going to get front seat in a wet T-shirt contest or get laid - but if you can wear a smile too you might just stand a chance. ;)

B

[rebel357]

Heres a trailer if you havent seen or herd of this game :)

xjcAFjniM1s&feature=player_embedded

[zauii]

because is not actually finished of course, you silly whining child !!

your also right now only seeing the first of many trailers, and quality will rapidly improve in them the closer to release date we get. the good news about this announcement and trailer release is that oleg and ubi is now committed to a specific release date and the project is in its final stage with a fixed deadline (but the final build has not gone "gold")

they still have a month or 2 to squeeze more performance out of their final build, and low altitude scenery quality will be the final proof of the pudding. pressing the cd's for final shipping and packing them into the finished boxes takes a week at max

Agree with Zap here, altho i'd say one month then it must be pretty much set for production. But as he says people shouldn't whine to much about the trailer, this is the first trailer, maybe folks should chill and realize that there's still two months left until release and we will get system requirements and more as the progress goes along. Historical battles are of great value as well, many prefer them and not everyone mods or creates missions, the game needs to show what it is @ stock.

Cheers

[addman]

i will buy this game anyway but i fear that its the same stale gameplay experience like il2. and guys...simulations and gameplay do not contradict themself.

This I actually agree with, I hope Oleg and team have improved the game aspect of this sim. Gameplay and realism -as above mentioned- CAN go hand in hand. I really love IL-2 always have but only for certain periods of time since it all gets pretty old after a while. Everything from the campaign generator to the interface in IL-2 feels very archaic. There's is no replay value either since it's so predictable especially if you create your own missions -which I do a lot-. Anywho, I'm sure these aspects have been greatly improved in CoD.:)

[Mad G]

http://sklep.gry-online.pl/KartaProduktu.aspx?id=3259&k=il-2-sturmovik-cliffs-of-dover-edycja-kolekcjonerska


Oh!, thanks for the link, but I can´t speak polish!

Best,

[ElAurens]

The H75 and H81 which is the P40 variant France recieved has been modeled in another sim for quite a long time. WWW.Battlegroundeurope.com (http://WWW.Battlegroundeurope.com)


here is the H75

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/5/5f/Ac_fr_hawk_75.jpg

and the H81

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/8/85/Ac_fr_hawk_81.jpg

They also modeled the Dewotine D520

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/c/c3/Ac_fr_d-520.jpg

The H87 which is a P40E with 6 fifty cals

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/d/d1/H87.jpg

and the P38 Lightening the French ordered as a P322 which has been modeled with counter rotating props.

http://wiki.wwiionline.com/images/1/13/Ac_fr_p-38f.jpg

Ive played this game for 10 years its been out and I am looking forward to playing this new game as well.

Cheers
Reb

France never recieved the P40s that were ordered from Curtiss.

The Hawk 75 is already an AI in IL2/46.

And that P 40 model is even worse than the Hawk 87 we currently have.

[rebel357]

The RATS over at CRS are currently replacing all the older air models with new ones. They have about 5 of them completed, they are in the middle of an Infantry 3rd person redo and thats taking up most of the Artist time. The Game is not based on the BOB its the BOF and in the game France does not roll over and DIE like in Real life. Thus they get the planes they ordered and I get to fly them.

[steven197106]

Will it be available to buy from? steam

[Skoshi Tiger]

I also know there were a number of FF incidents during the battle due to fatigue and stress.

Friendly fire is one of the tragedies of any form of warfare, Combat situations would have to be caotic and confused. The 'Battle of Barking Creek' was slightly different.

An error in the radar set swapped around the display so that aircraft comming from the west appeared to be comming from the east. The opperators saw a flight of unidentified aircaft that apeared to be comming in from the east (actually a routine RAF Patrol), they scrambled more RAF planes. As they did the number of planes that appeared to be comming in from the east increased, So they scrammbled more RAF fighters. This soon escalated so that it appeared that there was a massive German raid in progress. (Which everyone was expecting any day at this point)

The RAF fighters converged into a small area and one squadron of Spitfires sighted a Flight of Hurricanes in the location that they were expecting to see the Hostiles. They were all eager to get into the Hun and from memory identification was poblematic due to the conditions.

One of the major upshots of the battle was that the RAF expidited the introduction IFF equipment which was a major help to them in the Battle Of Britain.

Regarding the quality of the trailer,

Could it be possible that the leaked release day hastened the UBI press release. There were a number of ommissions in the official announcement, which have since been fixed up. Maybe the Official Trailer had not been completed and the one posted was hastily put together or taken off the shelf?

Cheers!

[vanir]

I'm confused: is this an update to the existing engine like Pacific Fighters was to IL2, ie. updating the game and adding the Cliffs of Dover to it?

Or is this using a different engine as a stand-alone only install? If so is this the final release form of the Storm of War project?

[Romanator21]

I'm confused: is this an update to the existing engine like Pacific Fighters was to IL2, ie. updating the game and adding the Cliffs of Dover to it?

Or is this using a different engine as a stand-alone only install? If so is this the final release form of the Storm of War project?

Thanks to the name Ubi adopted, confusion like this is going to be very common...

IL-2: CoD is going to be a completely new game, new engine, and is stand-alone. It is not an update. It is also completely unrelated to IL-2: WoP.

I think we should make a petition to Ubi to change the name, but it's way too late now I think.

[IbnSolmyr]

:shock::P:D:lol::D:D:D:D:D

Well, pre order is done here :-P

I'm very disappointed to see how many poeples can have a very bad attitude at this crucial moment that we waited for years...

This soft is fantastic, upgrading the level at a never managed one ! How could you stay grouchy as that ??? Some of us, unfortunately, don't deserve such a work ! :-x

The others are very confident in the Oleg and his team's work, and know that they always do 10 times better than the better competition... And in more, if you want to REALLY know how will be this soft before buy it, please, LOOK FOR ALL YOU CAN KNOW SINCE YEARS ABOUT IT, BECAUSE ALMOST THE INFORMATIONS ARE IN THIS SITE AND A FEW OTHERS !...

Marvellous day is this release date... can't wait !

[Bearcat]

Thanks to the name Ubi adopted, confusion like this is going to be very common...

IL-2: CoD is going to be a completely new game, new engine, and is stand-alone. It is not an update. It is also completely unrelated to IL-2: WoP.

I think we should make a petition to Ubi to change the name, but it's way too late now I think.

+1..

The best title for this would have been

From the creators of the Award winning IL2 series:
Storm of War:Cliffs of Dover

Who knows.. maybe there was some legal issue with Storm of War.. but then again .. I was under the impression that UBI would not be the publisher of this... so maybe this is just some UBI pencil pusher marketing BS where some jerk behind a desk who has no clue decided that this would be best... name recognition and all...
Regardless.. though and hopefully inspite of UBI .. this sim will take off.. Ihave already preordered my DD.. and I'll probably get the CE too.. but a little later. I just hope that the CP is decent enough to enable 1C to make some bread.. this sim has been in developement for too long for them to loose but so much to piracy..

[heywooood]

I cant imagine that UBI will be able to use the initials CoD or refer to this software as anything other than Cliffs of Dover...given that Call of Duty is an EA game and well established by the CoD moniker. I hear lawyers lurking in the foyer already...

Someone at UBI must enjoy stepping on his own junk -

"IL2 Sturmovik - Seeds of Litigation:Copyright of Doom"

Glad its not my problem - the only thing I'm concerned with is being able to afford the new rig I'm going to need sooner rather than later

[Tiger27]

+1..

The best title for this would have been

From the creators of the Award winning IL2 series:
Storm of War:Cliffs of Dover

Who knows.. maybe there was some legal issue with Storm of War.. but then again .. I was under the impression that UBI would not be the publisher of this... so maybe this is just some UBI pencil pusher marketing BS where some jerk behind a desk who has no clue decided that this would be best... name recognition and all...
Regardless.. though and hopefully inspite of UBI .. this sim will take off.. Ihave already preordered my DD.. and I'll probably get the CE too.. but a little later. I just hope that the CP is decent enough to enable 1C to make some bread.. this sim has been in developement for too long for them to loose but so much to piracy..

Bearcat any chance of a reference for the acronyms

BS - I think we all know this one, but DD, CE CP?

[TheGrunch]

Bearcat any chance of a reference for the acronyms

BS - I think we all know this one, but DD, CE CP?
Direct Download, Collector's Edition, Copy Protection I think. :)

[hiro]

only two things count:

1. thanks to oleg n crew. a week ago you told us it would come and it has.

2. the main question has been answered*


get ready to play


*release?

[LukeFF]

The RATS over at CRS are currently replacing all the older air models with new ones. They have about 5 of them completed, they are in the middle of an Infantry 3rd person redo and thats taking up most of the Artist time. The Game is not based on the BOB its the BOF and in the game France does not roll over and DIE like in Real life. Thus they get the planes they ordered and I get to fly them.

That's nice, but we're talking about CoD here.

[Freycinet]

Where did you get it? A link, please? Thanks,

You can order the collector's Edition here:

http://www.amazon.de/2-Sturmovic-Cliffs-Dover-Collectors/dp/B004JM5C62/

[Freycinet]

BTW, I just ordered three of them... :)

[Mad G]

BTW, I just ordered three of them... :)

Great! Are these english edition? Do you think thei mail international orders? Danke!

[He111]

I cannot find the Recommend machine config??? please help, and will multiple screens be supported? and what is the recommended Graphics card? ATI or Nvidia?

Please help, I'm off to buy a computer! (maybe a sandy bridge CPU?)

thanks

He111.

[Flying Pencil]

I cannot find the Recommend machine config??? please help, and will multiple screens be supported? and what is the recommended Graphics card? ATI or Nvidia?

Please help, I'm off to buy a computer! (maybe a sandy bridge CPU?)

thanks

He111.

(no specs, annoying, isnt't it)

[Tacoma74]

I cannot find the Recommend machine config??? please help, and will multiple screens be supported? and what is the recommended Graphics card? ATI or Nvidia?

Please help, I'm off to buy a computer! (maybe a sandy bridge CPU?)

thanks

He111.

We can only hope that Oleg touches base with this issue today. And if not him than possibly somebody at Ubisoft or 1c. Right now its just a waiting game.. If i were you i would hold off until the specs are released. Better safe than sorry, thats alot of money to be gambling with.

And i'd like to add: You really don't want to buy something that you possibly have to upgrade in a couple months. Patience is a virtue.

[chimp306]

cant find anywhere in the UK to preorder it yet :(

well nowhere that i would trust 100% to get it to me on day of release....

exciting news though.. not long now!

[Richie]

I wonder if there's going to be an update today.

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

I wonder if there's going to be an update today.

you and everybody else.

[Freycinet]

Great! Are these english edition? Do you think thei mail international orders? Danke!

Sure, Amazon Deutschland mails stuff everywhere. I'm getting my three copies of the collector's edition to an address in Belgium.

[Tacoma74]

Well it looks like Oleg has been snooping around here earlier today (looked at his profile)... So he should chime in at some point i would hope :) We all miss you Oleg! Come visit us, and bring good news with you!

[kybel]

i wonder what machines can i fly...from what i saw i assume that :

=Luftwaffe=

He-111
Ju-87
Ju-88
Bf-109
Bf-110

=RAF=

Spitfire
Hurricane
DH-82 Tiger Moth
blenheim bomber

=italian airforce=

BR-20 M
Fiat G.50 Freccia


thats 11, not over a dozen. anybody know which machines am i missing ?

[JG1_Wanderfalke]

FW 44 Stieglitz ?

[Insuber]

A sukhoi trainer, Su-28 if I remember well.

Insuber

[Matt255]

They probably counted the different variants aswell.

Or they'll surprise us with a flyable Defiant or Do-17 :D.

[David603]

So the flyables are,

Blenhiem
Hurricane
Spitfire
Tiger Moth

Bf-109
Bf-110
Ju-87
Ju-88
He-111

Br-20 M
G.50

Su-26 (The plane Oleg designed ;))

And the announcement says 13 non-flyables, so,

Anson
Defiant
Gladiator
Sunderland
Wellington

Bf-108
Do-17
Do-215(?)
He-59
He-115

CR-42

Cierva C.30 (Autogyro)(?)

I'm drawing a blank on the other non-flyables.

[Old_Canuck]

I cant imagine that UBI will be able to use the initials CoD or refer to this software as anything other than Cliffs of Dover...given that Call of Duty is an EA game and well established by the CoD moniker. I hear lawyers lurking in the foyer already...

Someone at UBI must enjoy stepping on his own junk -

"IL2 Sturmovik - Seeds of Litigation:Copyright of Doom"

Glad its not my problem - the only thing I'm concerned with is being able to afford the new rig I'm going to need sooner rather than later

Also well established by others:

Chemical Oxygen Demand
Cash On Delivery
Call Of Duty (honorary mention)
Capacity On Demand
College of Dupage
Codex
College of the Desert
Cause of Death
Certificate of Deposit
City of Dreams (casino: Melco Crown Entertainment: China)
Circle of Death
Coefficient of Determination
Congress of Democrats (Namibia)
Change of Direction (football)
Concise Oxford Dictionary
Commercial Operation Date
Close of Day
Carrier Onboard Delivery
Crack Opening Displacement
Class of Device (Bluetooth)
Charter of Democracy (Pakistan)
Content on Demand
Catostrophic Optical Damage (semiconductor lasers)
Certificate of Death
Cloak of Darkness (gaming clan)
Coffee of the Day
Close Order Drill (marching)
Click of Death [associated with many M$oft products]
Change of Destination (shipping)

and the list goes on at acronymnfinder.com

[w1nd6urfa]

Hey the financial crisis is over in late March !

... for me at least ;-)

[Blackdog_kt]

So the flyables are,

Blenhiem
Hurricane
Spitfire
Tiger Moth

Bf-109
Bf-110
Ju-87
Ju-88
He-111

Br-20 M
G.50

Su-26 (The plane Oleg designed ;))

And the announcement says 13 non-flyables, so,

Anson
Defiant
Gladiator
Sunderland
Wellington

Bf-108
Do-17
Do-215(?)
He-59
He-115

CR-42

Cierva C.30 (Autogyro)(?)

I'm drawing a blank on the other non-flyables.

I think that's a good list you got there, with some minor discrepancies between your memory and mine :grin:
First of all, i think they count different variants as extra flyables. For example, i remember seeing 2-3 different Spit variants in the Igrommir videos. There's also a rumor that the 109E will have two variants as well, one with manual prop pitch and one with the automatic system.
Second, i have a faint recollection of Luthier mentioning that the autogyro is flyable.

[David603]

I think that's a good list you got there, with some minor discrepancies between your memory and mine :grin:
First of all, i think they count different variants as extra flyables. For example, i remember seeing 2-3 different Spit variants in the Igrommir videos. There's also a rumor that the 109E will have two variants as well, one with manual prop pitch and one with the automatic system.
Second, i have a faint recollection of Luthier mentioning that the autogyro is flyable.
There were 4 different Spitfires in the plane selection menu of one of the Igromir videos, MkI early, MkIa, MkIb, and MkIIa ;)

But I don't think the around a dozen number for flyables includes type variants, because there have been pictures of the cockpits of all the planes I listed as flyable.

I think you are right about the autogyro though, I seem to remember either Oleg or Luthier saying something about the thrill of dodging Messerschmidt attacks while flying it.

[zauii]

this song @ release day :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ATAVmbzJsk

[Hecke]

zauii, your sig is wrong now since the crappy name change.

[RCAF_FB_Orville]

This is great news, its looking fantastic and I love the smoke and fire effects. I bet all 'thee of little faith' feel a bit daft now, LMAO.

I took a bit of a gamble and bought a GTX 580 about 10 days ago, very glad I did now. If that is not enough for this gig then I will be forced to kill myself, (400 quid! :eek:) but I think I'll be alright. :grin:

Tree, where are ya mate? I bet he's crying tears of rage into his tomato soup, ROFL. (just kidding you man) :grin::grin:

[Richie]

Hey the financial crisis is over in late March !

... for me at least ;-)



I can totally relate w1nd6urfa. I have most of my system but I still have about $1500 to go...pleases shut people who always say "WOW DUDE YOU GOT RIPPED OFF"....Anyway I'm just going to make it....just before the release date. :)

[Coen020]

So the flyables are,

Blenhiem
Hurricane
Spitfire
Tiger Moth

Bf-109
Bf-110
Ju-87
Ju-88
He-111

Br-20 M
G.50

Su-26 (The plane Oleg designed ;))

And the announcement says 13 non-flyables, so,

Anson
Defiant
Gladiator
Sunderland
Wellington

Bf-108
Do-17
Do-215(?)
He-59
He-115

CR-42

Cierva C.30 (Autogyro)(?)

I'm drawing a blank on the other non-flyables.


Don't forget the Supermarine Walrus

[Mad G]

Sure, Amazon Deutschland mails stuff everywhere. I'm getting my three copies of the collector's edition to an address in Belgium.

Just pre ordered one copy from them. Delivery is due April 7th to 21st. It will be a loong 3 months wait, but after 5 years waiting, is not so long, isn´t it?:)

[Mad G]

I cannot find the Recommend machine config??? please help, and will multiple screens be supported? and what is the recommended Graphics card? ATI or Nvidia?

Please help, I'm off to buy a computer! (maybe a sandy bridge CPU?)

thanks

He111.


Specs Config...

Intel i7 950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz @ 4.20GHz
Gigabyte X58A UD3r Rev.2.0
Gigabyte GTX 580 @ 870/1740/2109
G.Skill RipJaws DDR3 1600 6GB
SSD G.Skill Phoenix Pro 60GB
WDC WD5000AAKS-00V1A
Corsair TX850W
Win 7 64 bits Ultimate

...mine :mrgreen:

[Oldschool61]

Specs Config...

Intel i7 950 Bloomfield 3.06GHz @ 4.20GHz
Gigabyte X58A UD3r Rev.2.0
Gigabyte GTX 580 @ 870/1740/2109
G.Skill RipJaws DDR3 1600 6GB
SSD G.Skill Phoenix Pro 60GB
WDC WD5000AAKS-00V1A
Corsair TX850W
Win 7 64 bits Ultimate

...mine :mrgreen:

Wow impressive. I think your trying to compensate for a small penis!!

[booterboy]

Good news on release date,congrats to dev team.
Really looking forward to CoD.
Hope enough money is made to continue the series.
Pity the dev team were'nt giving the resources/manpower for better graphics(not having a dig).
Best wishes to Oleg and team,pc gaming badly needs devs like you.

[Triggaaar]

Pity the dev team were'nt giving the resources/manpower for better graphics(not having a dig).Ok, you're not having a dig, it's your honest opinion - no problem. But... what are you talking about? Are you talking about graphics on screenshots that are not at maximum settings? Whatever you're referring to, the graphics haven't been limited by the resources of the development team, they'll be limited by the capabilites of today's PCs. There's so much processing involved in a decent combat sim that the PCs will struggle. I think the graphics (when at the best settings) will be great, but when they hit the limit it will be due to PC power, not development resources.

[Robert]

this song @ release day :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ATAVmbzJsk


Keep that shiite off of my PC.

[Wutz]

Keep that shiite off of my PC.
+1000 that is awful that vid.

[zauii]

Keep that shiite off of my PC.

+1000 that is awful that vid.


Whats wrong with it, U mad dawg? mkay.. :!: :cool: i'll keep em coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBhOlbsEXLA

Another good one from Dark Blue World with less metal and more emotion.

[Mad G]

Wow impressive. I think your trying to compensate for a small penis!!


Ah, ah, ah...not really bro, never had a complaint from the ladies, by the contrary!

I had a rig for 6 years with AGP with a Pentium4 3.4 GHz sockett 478 2GB DDR 3200 and a 7800 GS so it was time to a major update waiting for SOW:BOB/ Cliffs of Dover somewhere in the first quart of Century XXI and luckily it will be March/ April this year.

What I´ve read somewhere is that the basic config requirement is a i7 950, 8 gigs of RAM and a 1GB video card. So, lots of small dicks:mrgreen:

[Cobra8472]

Whats wrong with it?
U mad dawg.. mkay.. :!: :cool: i'll keep em coming.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dBhOlbsEXLA

Another good one from Dark Blue World with less metal and more emotion..


Ignore the haters, Sabaton is most excellent! :)

[zauii]

Ignore the haters, Sabaton is most excellent! :)

Yeah i like them as well :) , thanks mate :P

[Mad G]

Great movie ...but the darn Buchons and the Spits MK I scorting
B-17G´s...

[booterboy]

Ok, you're not having a dig, it's your honest opinion - no problem. But... what are you talking about? Are you talking about graphics on screenshots that are not at maximum settings? Whatever you're referring to, the graphics haven't been limited by the resources of the development team, they'll be limited by the capabilites of today's PCs. There's so much processing involved in a decent combat sim that the PCs will struggle. I think the graphics (when at the best settings) will be great, but when they hit the limit it will be due to PC power, not development resources.

Will have to wait for proper hd ingame vids on max settings to decide.
Its 2011,i know flight/gameplay will be great,just hoping gfx are up to scratch
to add to the immersion.just saying that if the dev team had a bigger budget/resources it could be the best looking combat/flight sim out there.
I know how much processing is involved but with quad core overclocked
processors and sli theres no excuse for poor fps/screen tearing etc.
anywho heres hoping for the best combat sim ever.

[caprera]

Is there a similar game in specs that i can compare via this site (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/) to check my pc ?

[O_Smiladon]

Just a question..Was there any beta done on this?

If not what bugs can we expect..if i remember rightly when IL2 came out it was full of them...

O_Smiladon

[speculum jockey]

Is there a similar game in specs that i can compare via this site (http://www.systemrequirementslab.com/cyri/) to check my pc ?

Do you have a typical i5/AMD equivalent processor or better? Do you have a high-end video card made in the last 15 months or newer? Do you have 2GB or ram or more?

If you answered yes to all of these then you're probably going to be able to play COD at a typical gaming resolution 1200-1900 horizontal with most bells and whistles going.

Wait a week and hear from Ubisoft. They're never misleading when it comes to their system requirements (sarcasm). Better yet! Wait until someone has played it and they'll tell you.

Seriously. Wait a few days after it's out before dropping hundreds of dollars on a new system.

[Triggaaar]

Its 2011,i know flight/gameplay will be great,just hoping gfx are up to scratchI'm sure they will be. But you won't be able to fairly compare graphics from a combat sim with those of a basic flight sim for example.

just saying that if the dev team had a bigger budget/resources it could be the best looking combat/flight sim out there.I expect this will be the best looking combat sim out there as it is.

I know how much processing is involved but with quad core overclocked processors and sli theres no excuse for poor fps/screen tearing etc.I think you'll find that limits are due to the PCs we own, not due to the size or budget of the development team. Some of us may have OC'd i7s and SLi, but the game also has to run on lower spec'ed machines too, which puts a limit on what can be included. If you read through all the update threads you'll see where Oleg has given examples of limitations imposed by PC power, such as 3D craters.

anywho heres hoping for the best combat sim ever.Indeed. I have no doubts it will be.

[caprera]

Do you have a typical i5/AMD equivalent processor or better? Do you have a high-end video card made in the last 15 months or newer? Do you have 2GB or ram or more?

If you answered yes to all of these then you're probably going to be able to play COD at a typical gaming resolution 1200-1900 horizontal with most bells and whistles going.

Wait a week and hear from Ubisoft. They're never misleading when it comes to their system requirements (sarcasm). Better yet! Wait until someone has played it and they'll tell you.

Seriously. Wait a few days after it's out before dropping hundreds of dollars on a new system.

Thanks pal, but i wasn't going to buy a new one anyway :D

About the questions i think it's a no, no, Yes. An Intel Quad 2.83 GHz, a GeForce GTX 260 and 4Gb of Corsair RAM should explain better...

Thanks again for the suggestion as well,' ill see.:-)

[Buglord]

Now you can start on a list, and prepare refference for a bunch of gorgeous skins you'll do when you'll get your hands on the game.:mrgreen:
All the skinners will be bussy for a looooong, looooong time!
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v258/<FA>Jaws/jumping0041.gif

You read my mind m8. :)

[jcenzano]

Thanks pal, but i wasn't going to buy a new one anyway :D

About the questions i think it's a no, no, Yes. An Intel Quad 2.83 GHz, a GeForce GTX 260 and 4Gb of Corsair RAM should explain better...

Thanks again for the suggestion as well,' ill see.:-)

i was reading this on my laptop and I run to the comp. room to see if you had stolen my computer. We have exactly the same rig lol

and I hope it is good enought to run CoD because there is no way I can upgrade/buy in the near future.

and I think the ansewrs should be almost,almost,yes ;)

[sorak]

Oleg is always telling us about how flexible and strong is the CoD engine.
I think the truly masterpiece is not the Battle of Britain itself,but what is under the hood,the engine.
My hope is in the future some third party decide to explore early jets not only in the fifties (korea) but in the sixties too (Israel and Vietnam)
It will be amazing to fight in a Mirage III,F4,F8 or Mig21 made in Oleg's standards with the inaccurate early missiles and radars.

I completely agree with you on this. Ive allways thought about having this sim explore more of the earlier jets. This would be awesome.

[zakkandrachoff]

in the video presentation, oleg an team miss put a pic whit a big raid, a secuence like this

http://content.luxology.com/gallery/88361f86934ec1fc8551cd5beb759585.jpg

[Tree_UK]

in the video presentation, oleg an team miss put a pic whit a big raid, a secuence like this

http://content.luxology.com/gallery/88361f86934ec1fc8551cd5beb759585.jpg

Wow that looks fantastic, Ive not seen this before, when did Oleg give us this screenie?

[Foo'bar]

Wow that looks fantastic, Ive not seen this before, when did Oleg give us this screenie?

You mean when will Oleg give us a screenie which is looking like that? ;)

It's all about the water surface imho.

[zauii]

I've not followed the discussion about the picture above, but it looks like concept art to me..

[Hecke]

It's all about the water surface imho.

+1

You have the relationship, so why don't you tell Oleg?

[Sven]

that art is from Wiek Luijken, he makes very good art about WW2, incredible stuff, google his name, youll find lots more, and his site of course.

personally, I can't wait to see this in Cliffs of Dover!:)

http://www.luijken.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/vertigo2.jpg

[zauii]

Really beutiful art indeed.

[Royraiden]

in the video presentation, oleg an team miss put a pic whit a big raid, a secuence like this

http://content.luxology.com/gallery/88361f86934ec1fc8551cd5beb759585.jpg

AMAZING!!!Is there any chance one could get posters from him?His work is awesome.

[zakkandrachoff]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
not, not

you don't catch very well what i said (sorry, is because my horrible english)
i put that 3D Art concept because i want that scene in the video: a very fast scene that follow a spitfire engaging a very big raid of he111 since up and front. but it will be better over london i think.
and i want to see big columns of smoke

http://swingleydev.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/london_blitz_1940.jpg

[Royraiden]

mmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
not, not

you don't catch very well what i said (sorry, is because my horrible english)
i put that 3D Art concept because i want that scene in the video: a very fast scene that follow a spitfire engaging a very big raid of he111 since up and front. but it will be better over london i think.
and i want to see big columns of smoke

http://swingleydev.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2008/04/london_blitz_1940.jpg

Im with you there, but this guy's art is amazing.

[Polevka2010]

in the video presentation, oleg an team miss put a pic whit a big raid, a secuence like this

http://content.luxology.com/gallery/88361f86934ec1fc8551cd5beb759585.jpg
If water in game was such, as on a photo...: (

[Royraiden]

It seems pretty good for me from the videos,specially the first.The lighting effects on the water seem really great.

[major_setback]

I like these of his:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/DXXXthe_beach.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/DXXIme109dogf_v006_0126.jpg

[Foo'bar]

+1

You have the relationship, so why don't you tell Oleg?

Hi Hecke, I'm pretty shure that Oleg doesn't need to be adviced how things have to look like. But sometimes there's a gap between what you want and what you can do (in technical matters).

We already know that most of Oleg's screenshots have been made with suburb settings, not even DX11 activated. I really think that we all will be very pleased once we see IL2COD in all its glory.

[caprera]

Sure we'll be.

If you're not happy look at it this way: at least now graphics are contemporary quality.

[mazex]

I've not followed the discussion about the picture above, but it looks like concept art to me..

But the fact that we look at a super detailed painting and have to think for some second before realizing that it's not an ingame screenshot from CoD tells me that we are beginning to get spoiled ;) I remember playing Fighter Pilot on my Spectrum in 1983 thinking it was SO cool...

Exiting ingame video of a landing in Fighter Pilot on the Spectrum... I don't remember anyone complaining about the graphics actually ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09cvB6ywiFA

I dreamt of that one day the games could possibly look as good as the splash screens displayed while loading the game from tape. I really did...

[Tree_UK]

But the fact that we look at a super detailed painting and have to think for some second before realizing that it's not an ingame screenshot from CoD tells me that we are beginning to get spoiled ;) I remember playing Fighter Pilot on my Spectrum in 1983 thinking it was SO cool...

Exiting ingame video of a landing in Fighter Pilot on the Spectrum... I don't remember anyone complaining about the graphics actually ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09cvB6ywiFA

I dreamt of that one day the games could possibly look as good as the splash screens displayed while loading the game from tape. I really did...

Hand on heart I really did think that pic was from a game, so yeah good point Mazex.

[Xilon_x]

THE OFFICIAL NAME is:
CLIFFS OF DOVER(il-2 sturmovik) abreviation COD

no STORM OF WAR SOW
no BATTLE OF BRITTAIN BOB



in ITALIAN translation "CLIFFS OF DOVER" ------- "SCOGLIERE DI DOVER"

[Triggaaar]

But the fact that we look at a super detailed painting and have to think for some second before realizing that it's not an ingame screenshot from CoD tells me that we are beginning to get spoiled ;)So true. I'd like the graphics to be as good as possible, but honestly once flying, the graphics are good enough that I spend of my time worried how I'm going to get out of the mess that I've got into, rather than what it looks like.

[jcenzano]

But the fact that we look at a super detailed painting and have to think for some second before realizing that it's not an ingame screenshot from CoD tells me that we are beginning to get spoiled ;) I remember playing Fighter Pilot on my Spectrum in 1983 thinking it was SO cool...

Exiting ingame video of a landing in Fighter Pilot on the Spectrum... I don't remember anyone complaining about the graphics actually ;)

I dreamt of that one day the games could possibly look as good as the splash screens displayed while loading the game from tape. I really did...

OMG, how old I am... I remember trying to land the Eagle on my C-64 and I was always to fast to stop on the availeable runway. But anyway that on the video was a hell of a shallow final approach :grin:

And after that came...
Dambusters(I loved it), ACE, ACE2, SoloFlight,F-15 Strike Eagle, Acrojet, Spitfire40, Battle of britain, Ace of aces, Jet... and that was only on the C-64

Amiga brought two of my favourites F-16 Fighter Pilot and Kights of the Sky, but I cant not remember a good WWII sim for the Amiga.

[Mad G]

I like these of his:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/DXXXthe_beach.jpg

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/DXXIme109dogf_v006_0126.jpg

WOW!!! This guy art is amazing!

[Xilon_x]

this is the pakage or kit of CLIFFS of DOVER
http://homepage.ntlworld.com/daniel.clarke17/ndb00201012101541291588.jpg

The secret for survive in the battle of brittain is drink ITALIAN WINE hahahah:):)

http://www.finn.it/regia/immagini/fiat/br20_mm22621_243-2_woodbridge.jpg

http://t3.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRUwJwEdToF0rFTa5ATFOJJoyTvGzBCX tANWw6Fc8vip1aeX7n0

or beer

http://www.serate-italiane.dk/upload/nazioel.jpg

[mazex]

OMG, how old I am... I remember trying to land the Eagle on my C-64 and I was always to fast to stop on the availeable runway. But anyway that on the video was a hell of a shallow final approach :grin:

And after that came...
Dambusters(I loved it), ACE, ACE2, SoloFlight,F-15 Strike Eagle, Acrojet, Spitfire40, Battle of britain, Ace of aces, Jet... and that was only on the C-64

Amiga brought two of my favourites F-16 Fighter Pilot and Kights of the Sky, but I cant not remember a good WWII sim for the Amiga.

He he played most of them too - and sat for days in Dambusters too :) And SoloFlight of all games we played for days too - the only mission to fly from field A to field B and deliver mail in a small prop plane...

Looking at this list of Jet sims:

http://www.listal.com/list/evolution-combat-flight-simulators

I realize I have flown ALL of them accept number 8 and 28. Remember the wait for Falcon 3 and then tearing up the package and installing it and sitting there in awe of the graphics and the flight modeling... All those missions in F-19 Stealth fighter over Iran and Libya... Mmm.

And looking at the list of WWII combat sims from the good old days:

http://www.listal.com/list/wwii-air-combat-flight-simulators

I have flown all of them accept number 26 and 41. I loved the Dynamix games and remember when Aces over Europe came with it's semi SVGA graphics that looked SO good! The reviewers where in tears...

EDIT - this is so fun. Found this page http://www.sheeparcade.com/free-games/simulation-games/ where a lot of these old abandonware games are available for download. Download the DOSBox "dos emulator" and then run them from that... Playing SoloFlight right now. Amazing that I have put so many hours into it!

[klem]

But the fact that we look at a super detailed painting and have to think for some second before realizing that it's not an ingame screenshot from CoD tells me that we are beginning to get spoiled ;) I remember playing Fighter Pilot on my Spectrum in 1983 thinking it was SO cool...

Exiting ingame video of a landing in Fighter Pilot on the Spectrum... I don't remember anyone complaining about the graphics actually ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09cvB6ywiFA

I dreamt of that one day the games could possibly look as good as the splash screens displayed while loading the game from tape. I really did...

Spectrum??!! Luxury!

Eeeee, yer don't yer born. I 'ad to make do wi' ZX81 wi' two rows o' white dots on t' black background fer runway. Mind you, I had full 1Kb memory to run it on an' sep'rit plastic keyboard. Always was in t'front o' develerpment.

Eeeee......

[Baron]

But the fact that we look at a super detailed painting and have to think for some second before realizing that it's not an ingame screenshot from CoD tells me that we are beginning to get spoiled ;) I remember playing Fighter Pilot on my Spectrum in 1983 thinking it was SO cool...

Exiting ingame video of a landing in Fighter Pilot on the Spectrum... I don't remember anyone complaining about the graphics actually ;)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=09cvB6ywiFA

I dreamt of that one day the games could possibly look as good as the splash screens displayed while loading the game from tape. I really did...


Where can i download the high res. version of that video?

[Adwark]

This is a great intro song for IL-2 Clifs of Dover:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUx3MU9iM6c&feature=related

[David603]

I think I have the full list of aircraft figured out now :)

Flyable,

Bf109E-3 (possibly E-1 also)
Bf110
Blenhiem MkIV
Br.20 M
Cierva C.30 (Autogyro)
G.50
Ju-87
Ju-88
He-111
Hurricane (3 versions of MkI)
Spitfire (MkI early/MkIa/MkIb/MkII)
Su-26 (Oleg was lead designer on this aircraft ;) )
Tiger Moth

Non-flyable,

Anson
Beaufighter
Bf108
Cr.42
Defiant
Do-17 (and Do-215)
Fw-200
Gladiator
He-59
He-115
Sunderland
Walrus
Wellington

[Bearcat]

He he played most of them too - and sat for days in Dambusters too :) And SoloFlight of all games we played for days too - the only mission to fly from field A to field B and deliver mail in a small prop plane...

Looking at this list of Jet sims:

http://www.listal.com/list/evolution-combat-flight-simulators

I realize I have flown ALL of them accept number 8 and 28. Remember the wait for Falcon 3 and then tearing up the package and installing it and sitting there in awe of the graphics and the flight modeling... All those missions in F-19 Stealth fighter over Iran and Libya... Mmm.

And looking at the list of WWII combat sims from the good old days:

http://www.listal.com/list/wwii-air-combat-flight-simulators

I have flown all of them accept number 26 and 41. I loved the Dynamix games and remember when Aces over Europe came with it's semi SVGA graphics that looked SO good! The reviewers where in tears...

EDIT - this is so fun. Found this page http://www.sheeparcade.com/free-games/simulation-games/ where a lot of these old abandonware games are available for download. Download the DOSBox "dos emulator" and then run them from that... Playing SoloFlight right now. Amazing that I have put so many hours into it!


Wow.. those lists bring back memories.. The only one of the jet sims that I flew was number 22 the F-117A Nighthawk .. that was actually my first PC flight sim.. The second one was #25 on the WWII sim list Warbirds II. That was where I first got the idea to start a Redtail squadron because one of the stock skins in the P-51C was a Redtail Mustang... The sim that got me into this full tilt however was #20 MSCFS1 ... I also owned #27 CFS2 and #29 B-17.. but I didn 't play them much.. I was pretty much stuck on CFS1... until #30... IL2.. which I bought in the fall of 02 while waiting for CFS3.. by the time CFS3 was released it was... too little too late.. Been here ever since..

[Azimech]

Where can i download the high res. version of that video?

:lol:

[zakkandrachoff]

I think I have the full list of aircraft figured out now :)

Flyable,

Bf109E-3 (possibly E-1 also)
Bf110
Blenhiem MkIV
Br.20 M
Cierva C.30 (Autogyro)
G.50
Ju-87
Ju-88
He-111
Hurricane (3 versions of MkI)
Spitfire (MkI early/MkIa/MkIb/MkII)
Su-26 (Oleg was lead designer on this aircraft ;) )
Tiger Moth

Non-flyable,

Anson
Beaufighter
Bf108
Cr.42
Defiant
Do-17 (and Do-215)
Fw-200
Gladiator
He-59
He-115
Sunderland
Walrus
Wellington

mmmmmmmmm, Spitfire MkII ???

[The Sheepherder]

March, hell yeah!

[David603]

mmmmmmmmm, Spitfire MkII ???
It's here (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/attachment.php?attachmentid=4024&d=1291381966).

The MkIb was in the aircraft selection screen of one of the Igromir videos, along with the other 3 Spitfire versions, but it isn't listed in that picture, so I'm not sure if it will be included.

[imaca]

Ok, you're not having a dig, it's your honest opinion - no problem. But... what are you talking about? Are you talking about graphics on screenshots that are not at maximum settings? Whatever you're referring to, the graphics haven't been limited by the resources of the development team, they'll be limited by the capabilites of today's PCs. There's so much processing involved in a decent combat sim that the PCs will struggle. I think the graphics (when at the best settings) will be great, but when they hit the limit it will be due to PC power, not development resources.
Its noticeable in the screenies there are almost no walls/fences/hedges.
I can imagine adding them would be quite a lot of work.
Or would it just add too much more load to the graphics system?
What do you think?

[jcenzano]

Its noticeable in the screenies there are almost no walls/fences/hedges.
I can imagine adding them would be quite a lot of work.
Or would it just add too much more load to the graphics system?
What do you think?

unbelievable...

[Baron]

Its noticeable in the screenies there are almost no walls/fences/hedges.
I can imagine adding them would be quite a lot of work.
Or would it just add too much more load to the graphics system?
What do you think?


Oleg awnsered that question himselfe a while back. Adding fences for ex. everywhere they should be would add an unreasenble amount of workload for the pc with with very little return in overall experiance (lets face it, when are u gonna see them). Im sure mission buliders can add them arround airfields and such (guessing) for example.

[Zorin]

Just skimmed through the major PC magazine websites and ALL believe this is just another title in the IL-2 series with an updated 3D engine... Well done Ubi...

[Insuber]

Just skimmed through the major PC magazine websites and ALL believe this is just another title in the IL-2 series with an updated 3D engine... Well done Ubi...

Squad mates not up to date had the same idea ... yet another expansion of the old Il2 Sturmovik.

6S.Insuber

[Royraiden]

Just skimmed through the major PC magazine websites and ALL believe this is just another title in the IL-2 series with an updated 3D engine... Well done Ubi...

A lot of people thought the same.But you cant complain in the forum,otherwise you are a silly whiner.People need to understand how much this sudden name change will affect the game sales.

[Triggaaar]

Or would it just add too much more load to the graphics system?
What do you think?I don't know how much each type of graphical feature affects PC performance, but Oleg has commented a few times on the limits of PCs. Not only are the physics more complicated than FPS games, becuase we want the aircraft to fly / shoot / get damaged as realistically as possible, but also the maps are huge compared to an FPS. You can fly across the country (we have a small country), dogfighting, without waiting for a new section of map to be loaded.

[Triggaaar]

Just skimmed through the major PC magazine websites and ALL believe this is just another title in the IL-2 series with an updated 3D engine... Well done Ubi...Never has our community been so united as in our dislike of the game title. Just about everyone was happy with the idea of "from the makers of IL2".

Fortunately, of all the things that could disappoint us, the name is something I care the least about. I appreciate it could effect sales, and less may come to join us, but what can you do.

[Royraiden]

Never has our community been so united as in our dislike of the game title. Just about everyone was happy with the idea of "from the makers of IL2".

Fortunately, of all the things that could disappoint us, the name is something I care the least about. I appreciate it could effect sales, and less may come to join us, but what can you do.

Spread the word is all there is left for us.Since the name is not helping to make the community grow bigger,is up to ourselves then.

[Triggaaar]

Spread the word is all there is left for us.Since the name is not helping to make the community grow bigger,is up to ourselves then.I think this was Ubi's cunning plan all along. Give it a daft name and let the cult - sorry, community, spread the word. It's like The Shawshank Redemption.

[zapatista]

Immersive game modes:
Exciting Single-Player Campaign – The campaign thrusts the player into the middle of the battle. The player will join the British Air Force to fight the German forces and renegade pilots on his own side, or join the German Luftwaffe and take part in meticulously recreated historical battles.
Massive multiplayer – Customizable modes range from simple deathmatch-style free-for-alls to epic, ongoing 128 player battles that can last hours, days, weeks, or even longer.

i'd like some more detail on the 24/7 dynamic campaign engine listed there for multiplayer :)

the germans obviously couldnt cross the channel because an invasion fleet is not modeled, but does this mean the campaign has an open ending that can change in outcome each time it runs ? (oleg previously indicated this would not be the case)

[Vevster]

Just skimmed through the major PC magazine websites and ALL believe this is just another title in the IL-2 series with an updated 3D engine... Well done Ubi...


Didn't see it like you.

They do mention it as "the next entry in the IL-2 Sturmovik series " because that is the way the press release talked about it.

Doesn't mean magazines think it is just a redo of the "old game".

Here, the main PC mag clearly knows that it's a complete new game, probably the first of a long serie.

[Old_Canuck]

Just pre-ordered the DD and will monitor any possible DRM issues with Silent Hunter which has about 19minutes to go for download.

Regarding the IL-2 Sturmovik name it's not an issue IMHO. The name Sturmovik brings to mind a great flight sim of superior quality that has kept my interest for nine years. Newcomers will learn that as well. In fact even if IL2/CoD WAS simply an addition to the IL-2 series I would buy it in a heart beat because of the reputation associated with the name. :!:

[nearmiss]

The IL2 name is out there and well regarded.

Anyone wanting to buy it can make a decision about a purchase from information available on the web.

Whether the marketing is what someone thinks is not material. If any advertiser asked for comments... there would be NO acceptable marketing decisions made, no one could satisfy all the craziness that people post.

[Insuber]

The IL2 name is out there and well regarded.

Anyone wanting to buy it can make a decision about a purchase from information available on the web.

Whether the marketing is what someone thinks is not material. If any advertiser asked for comments... there would be NO acceptable marketing decisions made, no one could satisfy all the craziness that people post.

Respectfully, nope. New brands and advertisement campaigns are very often based on preliminary marketing research, with questionnaires and interviews to real people. A friend of mine did that for a living.
We are simply reporting a fact here: friends and mates were misled by the name into believing that CoD was another expansion of the original Il2. Whether this will depress sales or not, I don't know. Whether UBI did a marketing research to sort out Il2:CoD, I don't know either.

Cheers,
6S.Insuber

[Tempest123]

I always wonder why developers go to the effort of making a historically accurate product and then let someone in some publishers marketing department who knows nothing about aviation or history create and write the box art and advertising/web page for the product.
I'm not talking specifically about CoD here as we know the dev. team had a say in the box contents, but I've seen this happen with other sims and it's painful, doesn't attract the target audience at all. Is this just the price you pay for getting your work distributed?

[Triggaaar]

The IL2 name is out there and well regarded.Of course. Just about everyone here thought IL2 should be on the box.
Anyone wanting to buy it can make a decision about a purchase from information available on the web.They can, but a lot of people that purchase games don't search the web for information about it first. They may make an impulse purchase for example.

Whether the marketing is what someone thinks is not material. If any advertiser asked for comments... there would be NO acceptable marketing decisions made, no one could satisfy all the craziness that people post.No one could satisfy everyone, but it seems this choice hasn't satisfied anyone. No one is saying this is the end of the world, it's just a bit daft and poorly researched. No biggie, we just don't like it and we're saying so.

[major_setback]

Originally Posted by imaca View Post
Its noticeable in the screenies there are almost no walls/fences/hedges.
I can imagine adding them would be quite a lot of work.
Or would it just add too much more load to the graphics system?
What do you think?

There are probably a number of easy fixes that would improve the general appearance without too much work.

One way would be to add a bit of ground texture around the house model so it had a different texture for the garden. You can do it to the model itself so every time it is loaded the garden will be there.
Secondly, you could add a bit of fence to a few of the house models. You could even add it slightly away from the house.

There is no need to do it all by hand.

I don't think it is too much work to do it, but it is probably too much workload for our graphics cards though, as Oleg said. But it might be something for the future (gardens/walls/paths/flowers etc.)

[zapatista]

Regarding the IL-2 Sturmovik name it's not an issue IMHO. The name Sturmovik brings to mind a great flight sim of superior quality that has kept my interest for nine years. Newcomers will learn that as well. In fact even if IL2/CoD WAS simply an addition to the IL-2 series I would buy it in a heart beat because of the reputation associated with the name. :!:

i disagree, and like most people here i believe the bad naming of the new product will significantly hurt sales in the future

if the folks at ubi so desperately wanted to keep the name il2 sturmovik in the tittle, they should have called it something like "il2 sturmovik series 2, Cliffs of Dover" ( or il2 version 2 etc..), all of which sounds ugly but at least would let them keep the marketing name AND would have gotten the important point across to sales drones in shops who deal with 100's of tittles that this is a completely new product in the same series (and inform potentially new customers who remember vaguely "there was something good about the sturmovik flightsim" lets try this out and see what its like etc..)

that then completely differentiates all the earlier products from the new series, and avoids all the confusion of what addons work for what version. customers and sales people need a simple naming system that lets them know what works with what

this forum and the other i2 forums still have a regular trail of eager new flight-simmers who want to try the product, most have just bought an older version of il2 without knowing any better, and are seriously confused by what il2 product is a standalone or an addon, and they dont know the sequence of addons and newer versions that integrated all the previous versions in one product (so they get the improved version of the game). it is even made more confusion with the additional 3e party produced mission packs and other 3e party addons etc

this will get significantly worse with the release of the new product, and the flightsim series needs a simple naming system that makes it easy to know what is a completely new version of the game (il2 sturmovik version 2), and the original older series. even at this late stage they could still slap a little sticker (on the already printed boxes) with "il2 sturmovik series 2" on it, this is a very common last minute procedures in many factories,and the next print run of boxes will then have the better naming integrated in the box art

[Chivas]

I don't think there is that big of a problem. Most of the combat flight sim community who are interested in buying a new combat flight sim will easily figure it out.

Even if people are unaware, or confused, a quick look at the back of the box, or website, should tell them this is a brand new game and gaming engine.

[Bearcat]

Didn't see it like you.

They do mention it as "the next entry in the IL-2 Sturmovik series " because that is the way the press release talked about it.

Doesn't mean magazines think it is just a redo of the "old game".

Here, the main PC mag clearly knows that it's a complete new game, probably the first of a long serie.

It doesnt matter what the magazines think.. it is what the box says.. and the fact that UBI didnt even give the developer the respect to pick the name of his product is just pitiful.. They obviously have their heads up their collective behinds... Marketing thjis is another "upgrade" to IL2 is stupid. Period. Marketing this as a new product from the same designers who made IL2 is they way this all should have gone down.. why the pencil pushers at UBI can't see this is beyond me. I guarantee you there will be people who will say... why bother .. I'll just get IL2... more planes... wider theater... Had they marketed this as a new product from the brilliant minds that brought you IL2 sales would be much better.. but they probably didn't want to cut into any sales of IL2 either..

[Wutz]

Well wonder how Ubi will, if they even bother, sort out the mess that many think CoD is just another add-on to IL2, and will think "If I don´t have the rest, no point in buying this as it won´t work" Especially for new people this impression seems to be around, that CoD is not a seperate new development but just another add-on.

[zapatista]

all the confusion isnt helped by the wording used at 1C's own youtube website

IL-2 STURMOVIK™: Cliffs of Dover is the latest instalment in the acclaimed IL-2 Sturmovik™ series from award-winning developer 1C: Maddox Games.

http://www.youtube.com/user/1CComp

it very much portrays it as just another product in the same series, but that wording is probably temporary and just put up by one of their own people in the short term

for the official ubi website ( http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dover/en-GB/home/coming-soon.aspx) and the product boxes and online download ordering (steam etc) they should add a "version 2" to the title at least (or a similar naming that differentiates it clearly from the 1e series)

[swiss]

I'm sure they'll have a hard time selling it.

January 18, 2011 | 43,767 views

lol

You guys care way too much about something you dont no crap about.


edit:

ubisoft's channel: 6 days ago | 22,096 views

[Igo kyu]

... they probably didn't want to cut into any sales of IL2 either.
Sales of 1946 at £5 per unit don't matter to anyone any more, it's a very nice price for buyers, but the profits on it will be marginal to none.

[Wutz]

Sales of 1946 at £5 per unit don't matter to anyone any more, it's a very nice price for buyers, but the profits on it will be marginal to none.
True IL2-1946 is found here at the large shops on those bargain tables, I think they are just trying to sell of what they have left over on stock

[swiss]

It doesnt matter what the magazines think.. it is what the box says..

Really?
You just go in the store, take a look at a box, put $80 on the counter and leave?
Without googling for reviews?

[merlin1]

We saw the announcement of the outcome CoD from 1c and ubi.com. But. Is Oleg actually confirm the release date ? I dont think soo. His statement will be the most credible.

[fruitbat]

We saw the announcement of the outcome CoD from 1c and ubi.com. But. Is Oleg actually confirm the release date ? I dont think soo. His statement will be the most credible.

did you actually read Oleg's post on last weeks friday update:confused:

" would like to say, that known date of release doesn't means that we has been stopped the work that to silver the product."

is that credible enough for you?

[merlin1]

did you actually read Oleg's post on last weeks friday update:confused:

" would like to say, that known date of release doesn't means that we has been stopped the work that to silver the product."

is that credible enough for you?



I was on vacations the last ten days ;) :rolleyes:

I Will read :!:

[fruitbat]

I was on vacations the last ten days ;) :rolleyes:

I Will read :!:

lucky you!

[Robert]

It doesnt matter what the magazines think.. it is what the box says.. and the fact that UBI didnt even give the developer the respect to pick the name of his product is just pitiful.. They obviously have their heads up their collective behinds... Marketing thjis is another "upgrade" to IL2 is stupid. Period. Marketing this as a new product from the same designers who made IL2 is they way this all should have gone down.. why the pencil pushers at UBI can't see this is beyond me. I guarantee you there will be people who will say... why bother .. I'll just get IL2... more planes... wider theater... Had they marketed this as a new product from the brilliant minds that brought you IL2 sales would be much better.. but they probably didn't want to cut into any sales of IL2 either..

I think UBI will need you to work at Best Buy again to help sell and market their game IN STORE. It's that personal touch that UBI is looking for. ;)

[Richie]

I don't think there is that big of a problem. Most of the combat flight sim community who are interested in buying a new combat flight sim will easily figure it out.

Even if people are unaware, or confused, a quick look at the back of the box, or website, should tell them this is a brand new game and gaming engine.


If you put the game in google now pages and pages are up. Buy the time this thing comes out considering the amount of people that are online I think the message is going to get out there. It's much different now than it was back in 2001 when IL-2 first came out.

http://www.google.ca/search?q=IL-2+Sturmovik%3A+Cliffs+of+Dover&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&aq=t&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&client=firefox-a

[Royraiden]

Have you guys seen these videos? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feR3S11Z9hs
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDW9Pm6qvs&feature=related
I remind you Im new to the forums, so maybe its old news, but they look awesome!!!This vids show me more than 100 pictures.What do you say guys?

[Ctrl E]

anyone got a link to a video i saw that showed inside a j-88 and the changing of magazines on a gun?

[Richie]

You should find it in here somewhere


http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/tag/igromir-2010/

[Matt255]

Would be great to know, if the gunner has to reload the 20mm drum magazines in the 110 :D.

[LukeFF]

Have you guys seen these videos?

That, and a hundred more. :-P

[Richie]

Would be great to know, if the gunner has to reload the 20mm drum magazines in the 110 :D.


The machine gun mag. is reloaded

[Royraiden]

That, and a hundred more. :-P

Hehe,I had to throw it in, just in case.

[JetmechAl]

So as I can see The new saga starts and I can't wait even though I may need a new rig as video is dx10-dx11.
Saw this trailer on UBIsoft website and it's got me geared up!!!!

http://shop.ubi.com/store/ubina/en_CA/pd/ThemeID.8605600/productID.224108100/IL-2_Sturmovik%3A_Cliffs_of_Dover.html

I've been awaiting this release since when??? I think it was first mentioned in the winter of 2009 with a expected release of fall 2009 . Right???

Man It looks awesome.....sure is going to be hard not to play in Cockpit mode with this level of graphic quality..........

[Triggaaar]

I've been awaiting this release since when??? I think it was first mentioned in the winter of 2009 with a expected release of fall 2009 . Right???I think you may have miss-typed that.

[Hecke]

pretty short wait then ;)

[{64s}Katsuo]

Good morning all!

Just a little question, anyone can tell me if PTO add-on of CoD (like Pacific Fighters) is already scheduled? In case of positive answer, any idea about the delay? Please no "two more weeks"... ;)

Thanks :!:

[ElAurens]

No Pacific addon is in the works as far as anyone knows.

I suspect that in the current legal environment that it will probably never happen.

*EL pulls on NOMEX suit and runs for cover.*

:-P

[Zorin]

No Pacific addon is in the works as far as anyone knows.

I suspect that in the current legal environment that it will probably never happen.

*EL pulls on NOMEX suit and runs for cover.*

:-P

On a related note.

Republic was bought by Fairchild. They merged with Dornier under supervision of Mercedes Benz and have been liquidated. So is there anyone holding their rights now?

North American Aviation merged with Rockwell and Boeing bought their military branch so we may assume that Boeing is holding the rights for all NAA products.

Can we therefor assume that TD is save to work on types of these manufacturers?

[heywooood]

this is an ongoing story that will merit close attention - I hope there is a solution that will allow all of the relevant aircraft to be depicted in the future addons - without costing an arm and a leg....

[robtek]

Website is online:

http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dover/de-DE/home/coming-soon.aspx

[ElAurens]

German site only?

[Royraiden]

German site only?

All german to me too.

[swiss]

http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dover/en-GB/home/coming-soon.aspx

Geniuses.



Just remove the red part:
il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dover/de-DE/home/coming-soon.aspx

[Royraiden]

http://il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dover/en-GB/home/coming-soon.aspx

Geniuses.



Just remove the red part:
il2sturmovik.ubi.com/cliffs-of-dover/de-DE/home/coming-soon.aspx

Didnt read the whole url, no need to call names or sarcastically imply something.