Joystick ID's: is 5 too many?

[droz]

I basically have 5 devices that are recorded as gaming/joystick devices: 2 Thrustmaster MFD's and the Logitech G940 flight system (which acts as three devices).

IL2 will not recognize more than 4. I can play it if I unplug one of my MFD's, but that's really annoying. Any way around this?

[bolox]

maybe this?
http://www.wingmanteam.com/latest_software/gadgets.htm#JoyIDs_Utility:

haven't tried it myself yet as i'm still on 4 controllers

[droz]

just tried it. Didn't work. Still same problem. running Win 7.

[Artist]

just tried it. Didn't work. Still same problem. running Win 7.

1. Il-2 does not care about those IDs set with JoyIDs (these are for games using Win32 JOYCOBNTROLEX API, but Il-2 uses something different)

2. Il-2 only uses the first 4 devices.

I do not see any other solution than unplugging one of your MFD's

Artist

[ZaltysZ]

Try using TARGET (programming software) from Thrustmaster. It will combine your MFDs into 1 virtual device, and you will be fine.

[Raggz]

Try using TARGET (programming software) from Thrustmaster. It will combine your MFDs into 1 virtual device, and you will be fine.

It doesn't. TARGET combines the Warthog not the MFD's. I have the same problem using TM Warthog, 2x Cougar MFD's, Saitek Rudders and TrackIR.
Strange thing is that it did work the first times for me without detaching anything. Now suddenly the rudders to not work in IL2.

[Artist]

It doesn't. TARGET combines the Warthog not the MFD's. I have the same problem using TM Warthog, 2x Cougar MFD's, Saitek Rudders and TrackIR.
Strange thing is that it did work the first times for me without detaching anything. Now suddenly the rudders to not work in IL2.

In the "System Control", "Usb Game Controls" dialog there's a button with which you can set one of the usb devices to be used with older games (No idea, how this button is labelled in the English version od Windows). By applying this button consecutively on the devices, you can reorder them (each time you apply this button, the selected device will move to the top => No1 in Il-2)...

Maybe this helps to get your rudders within 1-4 again...

Artist

PS: If you have two identically named devices, this will not work for *them*. I made this experience with two BU0836As. You can get only one of them to the top (and its 50/50, which one :()

[Raggz]

A reboot fixed my problem. Seems i was wrong about TARGET. Looks like it does combine the MFD's :)
Works like a charm now without the need to detach one MFD :)

[Artist]

Try using TARGET (programming software) from Thrustmaster. It will combine your MFDs into 1 virtual device, and you will be fine.
Does it combine Thrustmaster products only? Or other USB devices, too?

[Sokol1]

Only Thrustmaster products.

You can try join different controllers in one virtual with PPjoy.
Is PITA to configure but maybe overcome IL-2 limitations.

Windows 7/64 version: http://ppjoy.blogspot.com/2009/11/finally-new-version.html

Some how to:
http://wiki.mechlivinglegends.net/index.php?title=PPJoy_for_using_multiple_joysticks
http://home.comcast.net/~zero2005/Guide/1.html

Sokol1

[Bearcat]

I was going to suggest PP joy.. Other than that there is no way around it..

[Azimech]

Can't get PPJoy to install on my Win 7-64. Together with numerous others despite following the instructions to the letter.

I'll live without it.

[Artist]

Hi Sokol1,

You can try join different controllers in one virtual with PPjoy.
Is PITA to configure but maybe overcome IL-2 limitations.


Thanks a lot!

As far as I can read from the Howtos (thanks again!), it does create a virtual device by mixing controls from real devices (which *is* great!) - and therefore is still limited to a 8 axes, 16 buttons (why not 32? different story...). So it does not allow getting all the 16 axes and 64 buttons of two BU0836As into the range of Il-2 when a G940 occupies the first three places...

The TARGET software from Thrustmaster has probably the same limitations (because, I guess, these are in fact Windows' limitations), so it's my fault: The question was wrong...

The only way out I see, is a software, with which axes can be mapped to DeviceLink funtions (similiar to MultiThrottle by MikkOwl). I am working on that, right now.

Artist

[jayrc]

HI Artist, could you please include radiator axis for device link, also do you have plans to include mixure axis when 4.12 is released? Thanks

[Artist]

HI Artist, could you please include radiator axis for device link, also do you have plans to include mixure axis when 4.12 is released? Thanks
I'd love to, but both are not available in DeviceLink. The moment Team Daidalos makes them accessible via Device Link, I'll make an update of YaDeLi.

We've to lobby for it :grin: