= SOW ( Bob ) vs other scenarios. << Poll >>

[GOZR]

Well SOW looks superb and hopefully it will be able to custom it some how with details and accuracy.. But here some questions for you guys..

Are you going to be bored quickly with the B.O.B limited scenario?

[T}{OR]

I don't see why I should be bored. For me the selected scenario has it all.

More or less balanced plane set, with popular planes most people will like flying. And famous bomber types on both sides. Except carrier ops I can see every type of scenario available here.

I think it was a wise decision to lunch a new series featuring a famous battle. Those less known scenarios / battles can be rolled in once the company has achieved a desired number of sales.

[kennel]

No

BOB represents a very indepth combat flight simulator that will take quite alot of time to learn.

For me personally I really look foward to all of the possibilities BOB actually offers. I dont even consider whats coming after BOB, for that I still have IL2

[Splitter]

BoB is a GREAT first scenario. Great planes, limited map size, clear cut objectives.

But I would like to see the Western Front done next. It won't be, but I can dream :). I would like to fly 51's, 47's, Mosquitos and such against 109's and 190's in preparation for, during, and post invasion. Vice versa too of course. Maybe I am just hearkening back to my SoW days?

Splitter

[Igo kyu]

BoB, then others that you don't suggest.

Atlantic Ocean, Convoys to Russia, Malta, Mediterranean carrier command and others.

WW2 was huge, there were battles in many places (and many places with no battles at all).

[Chivas]

Battle of Britain is the perfect place to start the SOW series. This was the first major air theater of WW2. The next major theater of operations was the Mediterrainen, which basicly uses the aircraft involved in the Battle of Britain. The only major requirement for the Med is a huge map or a series of smaller ones. Hopefully the game engine will be capable of one large map. Luckily most of the map is desert.

[GOZR]

Yes IGO but those are or should be included in the titles above some how ;)

[Antoninus]

I didn't play a BOB campaign since European Air War. There're lots of new features not seen before in a WW2 combat flight sim. Korea and now Battle of Moscow are already in development and SOW will open be open for third party add ons.

Thus no, I don't believe I will be bored that quickly before new content will arrive.

[The Kraken]

What we've seen last Friday points to a much deeper experience than any previous WW2 combat sim, so I very much doubt that boredom will be an issue anytime soon. Add the flyable bombers and the Italians, and there's a lot of variety even for the "limited" BoB theatre. The only thing missing is close air support, but that will probably be available with some "what if" user-made missions as well.

It's still unclear if the engine can handle several hundred planes in the sky to recreate historic BoB missions in full scale. But even if that's not the case I still like the choice. Especially if we get the Mediterranean next :)

[AWL_Spinner]

No way I'm going to get remotely bored with the Battle of Britain, I love the era and the planeset, however this is an interesting poll for "where next".

Pleased that the leading three are "East/North, France/Spain and Med/M.E." - I'd be very, very happy if those happened to be the first three expansions.

Especially Mediterranean/Mid East and France/Spain, '38-'42 my favourite plane sets.

[Fafnir_6]

No way I'm going to get remotely bored with the Battle of Britain, I love the era and the planeset, however this is an interesting poll for "where next".

Pleased that the leading three are "East/North, France/Spain and Med/M.E." - I'd be very, very happy if those happened to be the first three expansions.

Especially Mediterranean/Mid East and France/Spain, '38-'42 my favourite plane sets.

+1

The Med and the battles of 1939/40 almost always get the shaft in any new flight sim. I'd have said the same about the ostfront until Il-2 came out :).

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[bf-110]

BoB is something not common in combat sims,but what will be the finest from SoW will be Pacific and Eastern theatre.France would make the sim differentiated.

Korean war should be part of a different game,maybe.

I wish Oleg have plans for a WWI sim and maybe a Cold War sim...

[Qpassa]

France/Spain :3
After I would include East/North

[philip.ed]

The only chance of potential boredom (from an offline persepctive) is if the campaign doesn't live up to that of BoB2. Of course the campaign isn't necessarily everything, though.
I can't wait for SoW, and to put it bluntly, I know it'll be a blast.

As far as later scenarios, I'd vote for North-Africa (MTO).
BoF I'd love to see, but I can see campaigners working on this battle with SoW when it's released (mostly everything needed for BoF will probably be there with SoW). If small-maps can be made, I can see areas 1:1 in scale with combat-areas in france being made (if these areas aren't already on the map).

[WTE_Galway]

SCW

I will fight for the anarchists.

[Qpassa]

Some forget that aviation is due to the civil war in many respects. It ignores the origin of the 109 or indicated very last, as some of the best German pilots who were in Spain. And the HE-111, and the Stuka ... Funny how ignorance and pride of many can claim that the German aircraft suddenly appeared fully formed in September 1939.
Copied from my squad leader

[Katkatman]

Battle of france (and Spain) have never been made yet on a plane simulator, neither strategic campaign over the reich (Bomber command night/USAAF Day), this kind of SOW futur episode would be sweet.:rolleyes:

[SlipBall]

I voted for Battle of France + Spain:grin:

[II/JG54_Emil]

I would like to fly on all fronts.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Well SOW looks superb and hopefully it will be able to custom it some how with details and accuracy.. But here some questions for you guys..

Are you going to be bored quickly with the B.O.B limited scenario?

No.

[ElAurens]

Well the only thing SoW needs is more Curtiss aircraft.

:)

Seriously I'd like to see the air war in China before 1941 and the AVG.

The hottest things in the air would be Hawk 75s or A5Ms.

Lots of other little known aircraft that have never been done in a sim to my knowledge.

However, our politically correct world, and kowtowing to the People's Republic means it will never happen. Hell, we can't even have Nationalist Chinese markings in the game, officially.

[Richie]

The only chance of potential boredom (from an offline persepctive) is if the campaign doesn't live up to that of BoB2. Of course the campaign isn't necessarily everything, though.
I can't wait for SoW, and to put it bluntly, I know it'll be a blast.

As far as later scenarios, I'd vote for North-Africa (MTO).
BoF I'd love to see, but I can see campaigners working on this battle with SoW when it's released (mostly everything needed for BoF will probably be there with SoW). If small-maps can be made, I can see areas 1:1 in scale with combat-areas in france being made (if these areas aren't already on the map).

+1

North Africa for me

[lbuchele]

I would like to fly everything in this gourgeous engine from BoB to Vietnam.

[BK_JG27_Treiber]

I want to see Spain; it's an undercovered campaign.

[trashcanman]

.....
Seriously I'd like to see the air war in China before 1941 and the AVG.

The hottest things in the air would be Hawk 75s or A5Ms.

......

Now that would have to be a huge map! Let's hope the AVG aren't too tired fighting the Ki-43s (amongst others) before the Zekes arrive after their 8+ hour flight :grin:

[bhunter2112]

Why pick -with BOB and Oleg we will eventually get them all ! After BOB I hope they add a Med map with the historic plane set. Malta -Italy - crete - North Africa-

Storm Of War - Battle For The Med !

[WTE_Galway]

Its interesting that at this point SCW/France holds a considerable lead.

I would not have expected that.

[heracles]

I think there's a growing insterest in SCW.

SCW is the unexplained (better say "unknown") factor of the equation that define Luftwaffe air warfare tactics in WWII.

Luftwaffe support doctrine, key element of the abused term "blitzkrieg", was improved over Spain's sky between 1936-1939. Also, "modern" air formation tactics like "rotte" was born at the heart of "Legión Condor".

So, I think it will be very interesting to set missions in this period and simulate tactics, thanks to the new great engine of SOW.

Cheers.

[JG53Frankyboy]

my "ideas" are:

after BoB (even it is not my personal favorite scenario, its is set, so....) it would be nice to get a first adon called like "Dieppe 42" or "Channel 42". No new map would be needed ( i still belive one of the mayor tasks in the SoW series is to build a map at the shown high standards..), perhaps just "modifications".

the pool of possible planes would look like this:
Hurricane Mk.IIc
Spitfire Mk.Vb
Spitfire F.Mk.IXc
Typhoon Mk.Ib
Whirlwind Mk.I
Mustang Mk.I
Boston Mk.III
B-17E

Bf109G-1
Fw190A-3
Do217E


after that a huge AdOn , called "Tobruk 42", as the main map the Cyreneika, an additonal of Malta and Sicily would be awsome - but most propably to much work.
A nice tactical scenario this NorthenAfrica one, with a lot of "mudmoving" :)
possible planepool

Bf109F-4/Trop
Bf109F-4/B/Trop
Bf110F-2
Ju87D-1
Ju88A-4

Mc202_VII
SM79

Hurricane Mk.IIc Vokes
Spitfire Mk.Vc Abukir
Kittyhawk Mk.III
P-40F
Boston Mk.III
Baltimore Mk.III

IF with Malta RN carrier operations would be awesome with Fulmar, Seahurricane (i guess a Martlet is a no go because its a Grumman) and Swordfish :)

[JVM]

AFAIAC, I would not worry too much: nobody remembers this little tidbit from Oleg 10 days ago?

Battle of Britain is because
- it wasn't modelled in Il-2.
- It is a good start for the new series that to expand with new titles based on BoB in both directions of historical period of time (more in future).

It may not be directly MG who is going to take care of some theaters but definitely projects seem to be floating around (yet to start or ongoing, I do not know yet)...

[JG53Frankyboy]

actually , as long Maddox will stay with the idea of releasing "scenarios" , all is welcome :D

i just have my doubts about any future Pacific carrier stuff , because of the Grumman "affair".

[tagTaken2]

Two of the options, BoB and Korea are already happening. North Africa/Med is quite possibly next (not sure what's up with Battle for Moscow- anyone have good information?).

SCW would be great, really enjoyed the Il-2 Campagne Espana. But the number of plane makes involved, in small quantities, makes this almost unviable to produce, especially for the number of people interested (no Mustang? No thanks!).

I'd like to see high-fidelity Flying Tigers (easy to do planes, recognition etc) and an expanded Pacific.
Even if just one battle at a time was modelled (Midway- ocean map not hard to make, Pearl Harbour) and sold, there'd be plenty of buyers, and new planes to add to the set.
Or- as above- go by timeframes, like East Front 1941, or Battle of Kursk.

(excuse repetition)

[rakinroll]

ı do not think that i will get bored.

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Well I voted "North African and Middle East", but that doesn't mean I will get bored with BoB quickly.....the Med is just a campaign I would like to see in a sim.

[Blackdog_kt]

I won't get bored simply because of the new mechanics and systems we will have in SoW, regardless of theater.

Now, what i would want to see as follow-ups? I'm interested to see the Korean expansion. Spanish civil war will be cool too for the reasons mentioned.

As i'm from Greece, the mediterranean seems interesting to me as well. The air war during the original Italian invasion in 1940 was not that widespread (the Greek air force suffered a lot of trouble with maintenance, muddy airfields, etc, so they didn't fly as much as they would want to), there were a lot of insane stunts being pulled (e.g., a guy ran out of ammo shooting at an Italian bomber, so he went close and chewed up its elevators with his propeller, crash landed next to it and took the crew prisoners), but the most interesting part would be the planeset.

The Greeks mostly flew PZL 24 F/G models, various French designs (like the twin engined Potez 63) and a few Hs 123s. There were RAF squadrons flying Gladiators (some high scoring RAF aces made their mark in this theater of operations as well), there was also a swordfish squadron and maybe a some Hurricanes (not entirely sure about Hurris though, as the timeframe was similar to the Battle of Britain and most of the modern fighters were kept back home for defence). Finally, the Italian air force used CR 32, C 42 and all those interesting bombers.

I seriously doubt we'll see the initial battle in Greece and the Balkans make an appearance due to the one-sided nature of affairs (the axis forces had a huge advantage), maybe the map will only involve Crete, but the planesets sure are interesting with a mix of everything, from SCW era fighters and biplanes to cutting edge designs for the time, like 109s, often serving in opposing sides. The Yugoslavian air force for example had BF109s, imagine the confusion if flying online and you see Yugoslav 109s intercepting German Stukas, the Greeks had some Henschels and even some WWI Breguet 19 biplanes were around :grin:

I don't expect to see it but i don't really mind either to be honest since i mostly fly German aircraft. Just making sure the early war fans know about it, in case they are interested ;)

However, my dream scenario would be a 1:1 scaled map that covers most of Europe, because it will be able to see use for every operation from 1940 until the end of the war. I know this is a far stretch for the combination of SoW's quality and our current PCs, but maybe in 3-5 years it will be possible to run it at acceptable frame rates. I'm just thinking about flying in a 24/7 dynamic online campaign, with night and day bomber raids, radar intercepts, blind navigation and bombing, nightfighters, day fighters under ground radar control, etc....from the 1942 channel front to the end of the strategic bomber campaign and from raiding targets in Norway with Mosquitos to hunting shipping in the Bay of Biscay with Ju88s. Maybe maps could be "joined" online so that when one reaches the boundary of the map, a bit of hard disk loading later you spawn in the next one, this way you could start from the mediterranean map and fly bombing sorties against targets in Austria, souther Germany or even recreate the Ploesti raids.

I know, my imagination is running wild here, but it's not like i'm demanding anything...just tossing ideas around in case something sticks :grin:

[EV401_Wolf]

The Moscow war is ready.... No vote for it :)

[Avimimus]

This is interesting - back in the UBI days the Med won hands down (of course we already had the East).

The list leaves out night bombing (very important to a lot of Commonwealth nations).

[JG53Frankyboy]

The Moscow war is ready.... No vote for it :)

that's East/North front

[ElAurens]

There are ways to get the Asia/Pacific/CBI theaters in that will not be affected by previous "imperial entanglements".

The air war in China went for 3 years before any American pilots arrived with P40s. In fact there were Russian "volunteer" squadrons flying I-15s and I-16s there, as well as bomber units. The Chinese Air Force had an amazing array of aircraft, sourced from all over the world. Even the Japanese had aircraft not of their own manufacture there. They had a squadron of Fiat BR 20 bombers based in China.

Then after the AVG arrived and were later absorbed by the 14th. Air Force there were still no Grumman aircraft involved. Then add in the Commenwealth air forces flying in Southeast Asia and you have a wonderful mix of aircraft, maps, and scenarios that theoretically could span from 1937 to 1945.

Also remember that the Imperial Japanese Army Air Force was decimated, not by blue painted aircraft flying off carriers, but by Commonwealth and USAAF pilots, flying out of that hell hole known as New Guinea.

And for further, more obscure in the West, but none the less interesting and never properly done in a sim, we could have the fall of the Netherlands East Indies. The Dutch in Java and Sumatra had another interesting collection of aircraft types, lots of varied terrain and lots of ocean to cover, and were aided by some USAAF B-17s and P-40s.

If you think about it there a lots of ways to get us into the Pacific war and not run afoul of previous problems.

And, the Med is still a very good choice as well.

As long as we stay away from the uber plane bomber campaign over Germany for as long as possible, I'll be a happy BlitzPig.

[JG53Frankyboy]

i know. you can count me in for any NewGuinea stuff 42/43 (P-38, P-40, Ki-43,Ki-61, A6M and a lot of more engined bombers/attackers :) ) or some Burma action - P-36 vs Ki-43 :D

i just said that PTO carrier operations are doubtfull..............

but anyway, IMOH it will take very long till "we" will see any far eastern stuff rom the official side i guess.........and im also worried that even before that there will ba a official "Big Week 1944" (the Pony and Würger drivers are a loud crowd ;) )........................


but, this all is pure brainstorming and personal wishes.
I geuss 1C/Maddox has already a "plan" what will come, at least from the official side !
for the other stuff, let them bring out the 3.party tools. You will be able to "klick them away" anyhow :)

the MOST important point for me is, to repeat my self ;) , that 1C will keep the scenario based projects.

one of the biggest fun i had the last 6-7 years with IL2 was to build scenario based campaigns for an COOP online war. The research , the missionbuilding even the briefings ( :D in english as a non native englishspeaker.................). It took a lot of my time with the game , and in enjoed it. The favorite of mine were the PTO campaigns btw , but unfortunatly it was the last liked by the pilots that took part in the war :D

[Trumper]

:) My thoughts are split,i would like to see some sort of historical order BUT i think Oleg needs to sell to the most favourable money making market to keep the business going and added to.
Also ,i would assume what is already modelled and can be utilised quickly in the next sim with as little development as possible.

[Fafnir_6]

I won't get bored simply because of the new mechanics and systems we will have in SoW, regardless of theater.

Now, what i would want to see as follow-ups? I'm interested to see the Korean expansion. Spanish civil war will be cool too for the reasons mentioned.

As i'm from Greece, the mediterranean seems interesting to me as well. The air war during the original Italian invasion in 1940 was not that widespread (the Greek air force suffered a lot of trouble with maintenance, muddy airfields, etc, so they didn't fly as much as they would want to), there were a lot of insane stunts being pulled (e.g., a guy ran out of ammo shooting at an Italian bomber, so he went close and chewed up its elevators with his propeller, crash landed next to it and took the crew prisoners), but the most interesting part would be the planeset.

The Greeks mostly flew PZL 24 F/G models, various French designs (like the twin engined Potez 63) and a few Hs 123s. There were RAF squadrons flying Gladiators (some high scoring RAF aces made their mark in this theater of operations as well), there was also a swordfish squadron and maybe a some Hurricanes (not entirely sure about Hurris though, as the timeframe was similar to the Battle of Britain and most of the modern fighters were kept back home for defence). Finally, the Italian air force used CR 32, C 42 and all those interesting bombers.

I seriously doubt we'll see the initial battle in Greece and the Balkans make an appearance due to the one-sided nature of affairs (the axis forces had a huge advantage), maybe the map will only involve Crete, but the planesets sure are interesting with a mix of everything, from SCW era fighters and biplanes to cutting edge designs for the time, like 109s, often serving in opposing sides. The Yugoslavian air force for example had BF109s, imagine the confusion if flying online and you see Yugoslav 109s intercepting German Stukas, the Greeks had some Henschels and even some WWI Breguet 19 biplanes were around :grin:

I don't expect to see it but i don't really mind either to be honest since i mostly fly German aircraft. Just making sure the early war fans know about it, in case they are interested ;)

However, my dream scenario would be a 1:1 scaled map that covers most of Europe, because it will be able to see use for every operation from 1940 until the end of the war. I know this is a far stretch for the combination of SoW's quality and our current PCs, but maybe in 3-5 years it will be possible to run it at acceptable frame rates. I'm just thinking about flying in a 24/7 dynamic online campaign, with night and day bomber raids, radar intercepts, blind navigation and bombing, nightfighters, day fighters under ground radar control, etc....from the 1942 channel front to the end of the strategic bomber campaign and from raiding targets in Norway with Mosquitos to hunting shipping in the Bay of Biscay with Ju88s. Maybe maps could be "joined" online so that when one reaches the boundary of the map, a bit of hard disk loading later you spawn in the next one, this way you could start from the mediterranean map and fly bombing sorties against targets in Austria, souther Germany or even recreate the Ploesti raids.

I know, my imagination is running wild here, but it's not like i'm demanding anything...just tossing ideas around in case something sticks :grin:

Hello,

Have you tried the old "Fights in the Balkans" static campaign?? It covers the Albanian campaign of the Regia Aeronautica vs. the PZLs of the Greek air force on one of the old dogfight maps. It's not entirely historical but it IS a riot. I looked for a link on M4T but couldn't find anything. PM me if you are interested.

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[Blackdog_kt]

Interesting, didn't know there was such a thing. I will check it out if you PM me a link or some info. Thanks in advance :grin:

[proton45]

I have no problem with a chronological release of the various theaters of combat...However, I have always wished for "the Spanish civil war" and the 1937 Chinese/Japanese theater.

Furthermore, I hope that an equal amount of detail and effort is put into each theater release. IMO "IL2's Pacific" games where a bit weaker then the European theater games. The initial lack of the Chinese theater (even the Flying Tiger's campaign could have been so much better)...the absence of the Ki-44 and the "blue Ki-61 cockpit" come to mind.

The Spanish civil war, like the Sino-Japanese war...had an exciting choice of different aeroplanes to fly. I doubt that their have been many other theaters of war that involved so many different aeroplanes designs by so many different company's (country's)...American, Russian, British, French and the Italians all had designs in the melee.

[Ala13_ManOWar]

My vote for Spain.

Not only Luftwaffe learned things on Spain, you are forgetting the best of the moment in VVS was sent to Spain also, and the learnings from Spain lead on the later develop of VVS. Without that may be Russia weren't able to defeat Luftwaffe in the sky even outnumbering it. Remember also Type 5-10 I-16 and SB M-100 was the mayor component of VVS even at Barbarossa, same that was in Spain!! Sure modelling that aircrafts will not be a waste of time for later add-ons :).

S!

[GOZR]

Very interesting results !!

[ECV56_Lancelot]

My major interest is in mediterranean-north africa conflict.Dont remember any simulator that covered this scenerario with depth.

I always liked Pacific, but if we dont have more decent carrier ops with ground crew, and torpedo bomber aircrafts from both sides, i have noh interest at all. IL-2 cover the rest more than enough for me.

Didn't voted Korea because we already know that is development, even if its stalled to rush BoB, we will have it later. I just hope that when Luthier makes Korea, we will have carrier ops and a deep simulation of the ground war, facets never decently simulated on any previous sim of the Korean War.

[bf-110]

I would like to fly on all fronts.

Same.

Maybe France and Spain would be great to be the next,since there isn´t at all France and Spain in IL2.

[proton45]

Same.

Maybe France and Spain would be great to be the next,since there isn´t at all France and Spain in IL2.


I thought that "France/Spain" was a strange combo...they have a different place in the time-line and different geography. I'm not really sure, I see why, they where paired.

;)

[WTE_Galway]

I thought that "France/Spain" was a strange combo...they have a different place in the time-line and different geography. I'm not really sure, I see why, they where paired.

;)

Immediately adjoining maps and covers two of the three major conflicts immediately PRIOR to the Battle of Britain (Poland is the third).

Assuming you are resisting the online-driven tendency of flight sims to always progress further forward along the time line to faster and heavier armed it does seem a logical addon.

[proton45]

Immediately adjoining maps and covers two of the three major conflicts immediately PRIOR to the Battle of Britain (Poland is the third).

Assuming you are resisting the online-driven tendency of flight sims to always progress further forward along the time line to faster and heavier armed it does seem a logical addon.

Yea maybe...their is about a year between the end of Spain and the start of France. But their is a very different "aeroplane set" between the two conflicts, and I wouldn't have thought of connecting the Spanish event and the battle for France. I see your point...

[Katkatman]

By telling, battle of france/spain this is because there were plane models in the two camps which can fight without really big advantages to one of those . (D520/Bf109E1 ; Bf109B/I-16 etc...)

[zakkandrachoff]

• STORM OF WAR CONTINUATION WAR 1941-1942


Finnish air force
fighters:
Fokker D.XXI
Gladiator Mk. II
Fiat G.50
Morane M.S.406
Brewster 239 "Buffalo"
Gauntlet Mk. II
Curtiss Hawk 75A-3
I-153 , Hurricane Mk. I
bombers: Fokker C.X , Blenheim Mk. I , SB-3 , Dornier 17z (?)
trainer: Fw 44J Stieglitz

Russian Air force
fighters:
I-16
I-16 bis
MiG-1
MiG-3b - 1941
Polikarpov I-15 Type2
I-153
Yak-1
LaGG-1
Lavochkin Lagg-3 type 35
Hurricane Mk. I
Curtiss P-40B Tomahawk
bombers: SB-3 (il-4) , Il-2
SB-2
DB-3
zakkandrachoff 2 months ago

http://www.dutch-aviation.nl/pictures/Fokker/Military/Fokker%20D21%20Finnish%20airforce.jpg
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/94/Fiat_G50.jpg
http://www.century-of-flight.net/Aviation%20history/WW2/52.jpg
http://img71.imageshack.us/img71/4923/mig3in7.jpg
http://static.howstuffworks.com/gif/polikarpov-i-16.jpg
http://www.redstarrc.com/Pictures/Lagg-3/Lagg_1.jpg
http://umm-usa.com/onlinestore/images/AZ4805.jpg

I like so much the Finnish air force in the continuation war. And too the variety of planes of different countries (england, russia, holand, france, usa, italy, ). very nice
i am more interesting in a sequel of STORM OF WAR called CONTINUATION WAR 1941-1942 in some future without german Help (not 1943-1944)

[klem]

I prefer it to be chronological from 1939, Spain could be interesting but only as a later 'interest' add-on. That means SoW:BoB may not contain the Battle for France but we can create those ourselves, assuming the map covers to some way beyond the german border.

I voted for North Africa/Middle East

Here's an interesting site:
http://www.worldwar-2.net/timelines/war-in-europe/european-air-war/european-air-war-index.htm

1939
1. Invasion of Holland, Belgium and Luxembourg, Battle for France. In BoB?? If not we could build these ourselves (does BoB map allow this?).
2. Russo-Finnish conflict begins (needs scandinavian map)
1940
3. BoB (tick)
4. Beginning of real Air war against Germany: does BoB map allow for this?
5. Conclusion of Russo-Finnish conflict (needs scandinavian map)
6. Germany invades Denmark and Norway (needs scandinavian map or is it covered by BoB?)
7. Britain enters then later leaves Norway (needs scandinavian map or is it covered by BoB?)
8. S.E.Asia: Japan occupies Singapore, British troops withdrawn from Shanghai and North China. (not a lot of air war going on, needs SE Asia map)
9. Italy attacks Malta and Greece (needs a Med Map)
10. Taranto (needs a Med map)
11. Italy invades Egypt from Libya (needs a Med map)
12. Pacific Islands (not much happening)
13. Eastern Europe Russia invades Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia etc (requires Eastern Map)

More than enough for the next edition: SoW 1940 (the rest) :)
Seems to be more 1940 Air War around the Med.
In terms of campaigns, presumably these can only currently be created for the BoB map?

[Sven]

the continuation war is certainly interesting, though I fear that the conflict itself is too unkown to the masses to be a big succes, I think focussing on the bigger conflict: Leningrad would do the job better and from there on there's lots of ways to expand it, do you see where I am getting to? Pick a bigger conflict to eventually make smaller conflicts possible= more pleased people

[Chivas]

Exactly. Oleg and crew will concentrate on the large theaters, where the money is, and third parties will develop the other less well known theaters. It would have been an incredibly bad business decision for the developer to start with the France or Poland.

[Flanker35M]

S!

With the tools and information to be released after SoW is out will for sure help 3rd party to create new content within the limits given. I would be interested in the early war more than late war. Spain, France, Poland etc. are less modelled and also Mediterranean theatre. Late war can wait IMO :D

[rollnloop]

If BoF is done i'll buy 5 copies, and get my squad to buy more multiples !

[GOZR]

rollnloop: True LOL..

[Mysticpuma]

Sorry, I just want to see shiny metal P-47's, P-38's, P-51,s, B-17's and B-24's........maybe they could be in the first add-on?

Okay, I know wont, but I really just can't wait to see these aircraft and the higher-resolution skin-kits to go with them....shiny metal!!!!! Cool!

I would ask though, for ALL, models skin-kits, please no Mirrored areas as we (skinners) all know how useless it was to skin the P-38 as numbers would be reversed on opposite sides of the aircraft!

Cheers, MP

[klem]

Sorry, I just want to see shiny metal P-47's, P-38's, P-51,s, B-17's and B-24's........maybe they could be in the first add-on?.................
Cheers, MP

You're American aren't you?
These arrive half way through the war ;)

[ElAurens]

Actually, MysticPuma is from England.

Please, let's not rush headlong into 1944.

It will be good for the War Clouds bunch to fly early birds for a while.

I think they need a break from their hot rods.

:-P

[klem]

Actually, MysticPuma is from England.

Hell! Such an aspersion to cast on his character! Sorry Mysticpuma.


It will be good for the War Clouds bunch to fly early birds for a while.

I think they need a break from their hot rods.
:-P

ROFL, We like WC but we have the same complaint, it's locked in a 1944 time warp.

[Oktoberfest]

As long as I have the Bf-110, I'll be happy. And it will be hard for all of those spit and hurricane pilots used to late 44 machines to fight against a plane that is from the same year and not a 1942 twin engine vs 1944 single engine :P

Warclouds, beware !

[BigC208]

I think it would be nice to switch back to 39/40 with Finland winter and continuation war. Lots of those planes can also be used in the following Blitzkrieg and Barbarossa chapters. Blitzkrieg has never been done properly. The amount of Allied and German armor I've seen in the developement updates leads me to think there are some major air to ground campaigns coming our way in the not too distant future.

It would be nice that paralell to the North African and European developements, a Pacific theatre will be made. Starting with Pearl Harbor, Coral sea and Midway. Next up could be Guadalcanal and the Island hopping campaign. I bring up parallel or other wise it will probably take 5 years before we see any carrier action. Hopefully by that time Grumman Northrop has eased up a bit about property rights so we can have a proper flyable planeset and realistic named carriers.

Since Oleg was talking about a more open archtecture maybe there will be third party companies that can sell planes or scenario's a la carte. The a la carte planes seem to work pretty good for RoF. I personally have no problem paying more for excellent content. Just spend $12 on a WWI bomber, expensive? Try model railroads or remote controll aircraft. It's a hobby after all right? If this financial model is used maybe Oleg can expand his devel opement team and work faster to bring us our next fix.

[GOZR]

Tomorrow wednesday at 5 pm end of the poll !

[Wutz]

Ugh...why don´t those late war freaks just buy lock on there you have all the speed and weapons you can dream of......

As for me I would be very happy if we got a good researched and made add on of the Pacific theatre, and yes I would be very happy if it could start with 1937. The Chinese Japanese war. After all WWII was a bit longer than just 1944 and 1945....even though some would enjoy reducing it to that.

[R0NNC0]

Write-in candidate: CBI.

Last place: Western Front 1944, Eastern Front.

[Affe]

For i would first East-front/Center of Europe and for the next North Africa/South Europe.


And please 1C Company don't crappy one fighters let's the real advantage of version (Historical) Example the P-51 is not very well for hard maneuver on game. FW-190 is crappy too, so give em the real parametric of them.



Thanks a lots for all workers on 1C Company and keep fit Mr. Oleg. :)