SoW: Battle for Moscow and other Igromir news

[Solnyshko]

I couldn’t face ploughing beyond the 63rd page of DRM/publisher arguments (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=17135&page=63) so I started a new thread with some pretty pictures :)

Notice anything interesting in this snap? Welcome to the Battle for Moscow peeps :D (presumably No3 in the SoW series) Битва за Москву

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/IMG_0103.jpg

The big top going up at Igromir...

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/z_33aced56.jpg

1C dwarfed by Xbox 360

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/z_5add7c0d.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/_391.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/S6301707.jpg

Well so much for the behind-closed-doors, embargoed industry-only sneak peak. Looks pretty open to me!

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/DSCF8005.jpg

Hello Luthier :)

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/5142702716_a22a88c0e7_o.jpg

Judging by the response though, the overall experience seems to fall short of thrilling. Dare I say it’s wasted on kids clearly of the PlayStation persuasion?

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/0_625df_f1259874_XL.jpg

Back to the game – it appears aircraft location arrows can now be implemented in full cockpit view. Hopefully (presumably!) you can switch this off server-end.

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/0_625e1_b3536642_XL.jpg

Luither’s presentation:

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/DSCF8012.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/DSCF8015.jpg

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/DSCF8016.jpg

And what’s this? A carrier? Looks like someone mixed up their PowerPoint files with an old Pacific Fighters presentation ;) :D

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/DSCF8011.jpg

[Troll2k]

Some of the pictures must be photoshopped.I saw girls there.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Some of the pictures must be photoshopped.I saw girls there.

They had Staff passes! They had to be paid to be there!

Cheers!

[T}{OR]

Copied this link over at BFs forums. :)

[Solnyshko]

Copied this link over at BFs forums. :)

heh no worries. should have posted there in the first place :P

[Ctrl E]

nice. any videos?

[Solnyshko]

http://gameguru.ru/articles/945/view.html

19mins in, but my Russian is a bit rusty!

[Solnyshko]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/5.jpg

copyright of Mr Maddox and a moment of weakness for Mr Shevchenko

[Viking]

http://gameguru.ru/articles/945/view.html

19mins in, but my Russian is a bit rusty!

Hey I dont even know how to say vodka in Russian!

Regards

Viking

[Dano]

That shot of the Spits flying past the cliffs looks awesome :)

[Feathered_IV]

Looks good. Encouraging to see them getting to the presentation stage.

[csThor]

LOL @ Ilya. I hope his wife doesn't see that photo or there'll be wife-ack in epic dimensions when he gets home. :mrgreen:

[SlipBall]

LOL @ Ilya. I hope his wife doesn't see that photo or there'll be wife-ack in epic dimensions when he gets home. :mrgreen:


Not to worry, they live in Ca. it's a whole different world out there.

[HappyRogger]

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65178
many screenshots :)

[FAE_Cazador]

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65178
many screenshots :)

So, finally, the aerobatic Sukhoi is included !

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120316&d=1288865935

[The Kraken]

http://i75.photobucket.com/albums/i320/Solnyshko33/S6301707.jpg

Another title on display here on the left side - possibly the mysterious next release/addon/expansion? "Wings of Victory" and from the Sturmovik makers... (Oleg apparently confirmed that there's another title in production apart from "Battle for Moscow" here: http://simhq.com/_air13/air_465a.html)

Yes speculation is fun :) I guess we'll have more solid info in the next few days, if not later today...

[SaQSoN]

Another title on display here on the left side - possibly the mysterious next release/addon/expansion?

No, this is not a product title. It's an advertising of all-Russia IL-2 championship finale, which will be held there during the fair.

[SaQSoN]

LOL @ Ilya. I hope his wife doesn't see that photo or there'll be wife-ack in epic dimensions when he gets home. :mrgreen:

I'll save it for the next time, DT will need something of him. Then we could blackmail him. :lol:

[=XIII=Shea]

Nice thanks for that,

[The Kraken]

No, this is not a product title. It's an advertising of all-Russia IL-2 championship finale, which will be held there during the fair.

I see - thanks for clearing that up. False alarm, for now ;)

[furbs]

I have never hated some many people at one time as those kids playing SOW :)

[Redwan]

Hey I dont even know how to say vodka in Russian!

Regards

Viking

Lol, you just say vodka, it's a russian word ...:rolleyes:

[csThor]

I'll save it for the next time, DT will need something of him. Then we could blackmail him. :lol:

http://msnsmileys.net/r/smileys/ROFL/Rofl_3e.gif

[Avimimus]

The menu screens look exciting.

[major_setback]

Hey I dont even know how to say vodka in Russian!

Regards

Viking

Voo-h-odka:

Listen here:

http://tts.imtranslator.net/DA0H

[150GCT_Veltro]

This shoot is from IL2 or SoW? Thank for the link.

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65178

http://www.150gct.it/users/150GCT_Veltro/NUVOLE-BOB.jpg

[Hecke]

SoW BoB.

The clouds are *facepalm*

[eddolgov]

Voo-h-odka:

Listen here:

http://tts.imtranslator.net/DA0H

keep going. The next lesson is to pronounce Il2 in Russian - "IL-DVA SHTURMOVIK" ;)

[The Kraken]

:confused:

3845

[CharveL]

WTF?

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120357&d=1288883711

[Tte. Costa]

Pearl Harbour?

[albx]

maybe a girl needed to be saved? :D LOLLLL well i wanted say something else about the girl but i better shut my mouth :rolleyes:

[winny]

I hope that's the control column in his hand....

[The Kraken]

The thread has been updated with some videos:

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showpost.php?p=1491024&postcount=22

Looks like there's still some room for optimization :-P Love the ground detail though (as far as it can be judged in a wobbly iPhone recording).

[Splitter]

Oh my, those vids are nice. The interface looks to be very intuitive.

Splitter

[major_setback]

The thread has been updated with some videos:

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showpost.php?p=1491024&postcount=22

Looks like there's still some room for optimization :-P Love the ground detail though (as far as it can be judged in a wobbly iPhone recording).

SoW:WoW

That is the best update we ever had!!
It looks so much better than all the individual parts.

I want one!

[Tte. Costa]

I hope that's the control column in his hand....

:) :) :)

[150GCT_Veltro]

One only Emil? Bf-109E-3?

Landscape seems to be much better.

[Zorin]

One only Emil? Bf-109E-3?

Landscape seems to be much better.

That is old news...

What actually worries me is the fact that even the presentation machines seam to be unable to cope with the game. Some pretty major stutters in the last two videos.

[Trumper]

;) Not sure about the trees on the beach under the cliffs LOL :-)I know it's all WIP :-P

[philip.ed]

Looks bleeding gorgeous. That really looks like my dream sim.
Now the landscape and clouds just need a bit of tweaking and for me visual perfection will be reached.

[FAE_Cazador]

Nice windshield reflections !! ;) :grin::grin::grin:


http://sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120357&d=1288883711

Sry, I cannot reduce picture size, might someone teach me how?

[JG52Uther]

That is old news...

What actually worries me is the fact that even the presentation machines seam to be unable to cope with the game. Some pretty major stutters in the last two videos.
I think it was said the machines they are using only have 2 GB's of ram.

[andron77]

That is old news...

What actually worries me is the fact that even the presentation machines seam to be unable to cope with the game. Some pretty major stutters in the last two videos.

One of the team member said that presentation machines are: core i7, Nvidia 460 with 2Gb RAM. And 2Gb is not enough to run game smoothly on max settings. The framerate was ok over the sea, but very low over the land.

[Qpassa]

Cazador, tienes que editarla manualmente y subirla tu de nuevo
o ponerla entre [SPOIL ER][/SPOIL ER]

/Sorry for Spanish http://imgur.com/xlwhB.png

[koivis]

The videos... the frame rate went pretty low, but the landscape!
I feel very sad now, because
1) that looks too good
2) I don't have the money to buy a pc which runs that, as it seems the even the game developers don't have!:rolleyes:

[Zorin]

I think it was said the machines they are using only have 2 GB's of ram.

One of the team member said that presentation machines are: core i7, Nvidia 460 with 2Gb RAM. And 2Gb is not enough to run game smoothly on max settings. The framerate was ok over the sea, but very low over the land.

Thanks for the clarification guys :)

[addman]

Agree! best update EVARZ! Is the Walrus flyable? Anybody notice the question marked secret plane? Great stuff :grin:

[FG28_Kodiak]

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/attachment.php?attachmentid=120365&d=1288883202

[The Kraken]

Anybody notice the question marked secret plane? Great stuff :grin:

It's the Su-26. Just seems to miss the menu item image.

[150GCT_Veltro]

Any info about the clouds? Are WIP or not? Seems excatly like in IL2.

[JG52Uther]

Dornier on that screen! Please God (and Oleg) make the Dornier 17 flyable!
And I agree,best update so far!

[addman]

I would like to urge everybody who's worried about game performance to calm down. It's in a BETA state, for all we know they might not even have started optimizing the code yet. I have a ATI HD 4670 card "only" and have no plans whatsoever to upgrade until I've actually tried the game on my own computer. But thats just me :cool:

[The Kraken]

One of the team member said that presentation machines are: core i7, Nvidia 460 with 2Gb RAM. And 2Gb is not enough to run game smoothly on max settings. The framerate was ok over the sea, but very low over the land.

Yep, no reason to panic. Stutters indicate there's a memory issue; issues with the rendering performance would show a more constant FPS drop. On the other hand this is probably free flight mode with not much else going on yet.

Anyway it's a beta probably running debug code so there is no way to judge the final performance from that.

[Dano]

Yep, no reason to panic. Stutters indicate there's a memory issue; issues with the rendering performance would show a more constant FPS drop. On the other hand this is probably free flight mode with not much else going on yet.

Anyway it's a beta probably running debug code so there is no way to judge the final performance from that.


i5 apparently:


http://www.sukhoi.ru/forum/showpost.php?p=1491000&postcount=109

[SaQSoN]

Luthier complained on Sukhoi.ru about PCs config, they were leased to by fair owners. The problem is with the RAM, which is only 2GB, while min.requirement is 3GB. That is why it stutters over the ground (loads textures for ground and buildings).

[philip.ed]

Wow! I was looking at a PC with a similar spec. Crossed fingers it'd run the game nice and smooth with more RAM ;)

[FAE_Cazador]

Cazador, tienes que editarla manualmente y subirla tu de nuevo
o ponerla entre [SPOIL ER][/SPOIL ER]

/Sorry for Spanish

It's just a link to the original picture. I meant something like [size=800,600] or so after the [IMG] command, but I do not know exactly what.

Gracias!

[swiss]

Wow! I was looking at a PC with a similar spec. Crossed fingers it'd run the game nice and smooth with more RAM ;)

LOL!

Weren't you the guy who alway asked for more complicated graphics?
Trees suck!
Clouds suck!
Fields, just wrong.

And you seriously thought you can have all that and get away with such an eco pc?

*still ROFL!*

[kestrel79]

Wow that video with the 110 flying next to the cliffs was amazing! I am for sure going to have a blast just flying around in this sim, dogfighting will just be icing on the cake.

The cockpits look great, the shadows make it seem very realistic. The water and waves are great too. It's so nice to see hilly terrain, cliffs, just blows IL2 away.

Like others my only nitpick is the clouds from those videos, but this is WIP, and we have no idea the graphic settings, weather effects used, or whatever, so I'm not concerned.

The interface looks very nice too, major stepup from IL2. Well done Oleg and team!

[philip.ed]

LOL!

Weren't you the guy who alway asked for more complicated graphics?
Trees suck!
Clouds suck!
Fields, just wrong.

And you seriously thought you can have all that and get away with such an eco pc?

*still ROFL!*

Anything I ever said needed improvement would not neccesarily require a super-PC. Clouds; all that I said was a simple model tweak (flat cloud base).
Fields; improved textures and improved hedgerows.
Trees; more rounded in shape to match English trees (but this seems to have been achieved).
And there we have it. So yes, LOL, ROFL, scream with glee like a child all you want. I haven't asked for anything that can't be done with current systems.
And an eco-PC? When did I say I wasn't looking at buying another PC that's better for SoW and using this one for work? I didn't, so before you get all excited, maybe you need to be a bit more logical before jumping to conclusions.

Thanks.

Back to the actual exciting news, and not jumping on forum members in order to spur argument. It's people like you that cause topics to go tits up.

[Qpassa]

It would be nice that Oleg makes a business like Eagle Dinamics, a open beta paying it before(for the full game) ( but I wouldnt buy it because I like boxed version of Bob:sow if it is released)

[swiss]

Anything I ever said needed improvement would not neccesarily require a super-PC. Clouds; all that I said was a simple model tweak (flat cloud base).
I haven't asked for anything that can't be done with current systems.


Oleg should hire you!
Definitely - yesterday.


And an eco-PC? When did I say I wasn't looking at buying another PC that's better for SoW and using this one for work? I didn't, so before you get all excited, maybe you need to be a bit more logical before jumping to conclusions.

-> I was looking at a PC with a similar spec. Crossed fingers it'd run the game nice and smooth with more RAM

So it's your work pc you want Sow to run smooth on?
Plus the other game pc?
Then why do you care about the first one?

[The Kraken]

Anything I ever said needed improvement would not neccesarily require a super-PC. Clouds; all that I said was a simple model tweak (flat cloud base).

To make a flat cloudbase with round primitives requires more of them --> potential performance loss.

Fields; improved textures and improved hedgerows.

Again, hedgerows consist of hedge objects, except if you draw them into the texture, which Oleg is not a big fan of apparently (and fortunately :)).

Now I'm not against these changes - in fact I'd welcome them - but there are no free meals, and you shouldn't assume that those are "simple tweaks".

[Splitter]

Luthier complained on Sukhoi.ru about PCs config, they were leased to by fair owners. The problem is with the RAM, which is only 2GB, while min.requirement is 3GB. That is why it stutters over the ground (loads textures for ground and buildings).

Gotta love convention rules. I have gotten screwed a few times at expos because I had to use "their" equipment or labor. Totally understood.

Splitter

[ATAG_Dutch]

Luthier complained on Sukhoi.ru about PCs config, they were leased to by fair owners. The problem is with the RAM, which is only 2GB, while min.requirement is 3GB. That is why it stutters over the ground (loads textures for ground and buildings).

Well, B-less mah soul whatsa wrong with me?
I can't seem to find a dumdumdidee
A thingummidoodah and a deedeedidee
I'm in love, uh.
I'm all shook up,
Ahoohoo... oo-oo........ yeh....yeh...yeh.

Oh Lord, I seem to have lost all my marbles.

But my PC is gonna cope ok.

Awesome update. I am so wound up I'll have to drink lots of beer to calm down.

[KG26_Alpha]

Well, B-less mah soul whatsa wrong with me,
I can't seem to find a dumdumdidee
A thingummidoodah and a deedeedidee
I'm in love, uh.
I'm all shook up,
Ahoohoo... oo-oo........ yeh....yeh...yeh.

Oh Lord, I seem to have lost all my marbles.

But my PC is gonna cope ok.

Awesome update. I am so wound up I'll have to drink lots of beer to calm down.

Any excuse for a pint :)

[ATAG_Dutch]

Any excuse for a pint :)

Well, yes, true.:grin:

[furbs]

looking at the vids again...landscape looks much better to my eyes, the sea looks great but what caught my eye was how well the haze on the horizon looks :) plus the landscape seems to curve very well, blending the hills and fields very nicely.

[ATAG_Dutch]

looking at the vids again...landscape looks much better to my eyes, the sea looks great but what caught my eye was how well the haze on the horizon looks :) plus the landscape seems to curve very well, blending the hills and fields very nicely.

It all looked fantastic to me, in fact the stuttering 2 gigs allowed the odd static glimpse of what the landscape really looks like.
If only there'd been more clouds for Phillip.ed...........:rolleyes::grin:

[Bloblast]

I think I know where the pilot on the box is coming from, looks like the guy from Dark Blue World


http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/bloblast/y_412406262.jpg

http://i8.photobucket.com/albums/a23/bloblast/17machaty_sally31.jpg

[philip.ed]

Oleg should hire you!
Definitely - yesterday.




-> I was looking at a PC with a similar spec. Crossed fingers it'd run the game nice and smooth with more RAM

So it's your work pc you want Sow to run smooth on?
Plus the other game pc?
Then why do you care about the first one?

Hey, can't a chap run the game on a work PC? many people do, even if they have a seperate gaming rig set aside for serious gaming.
But I'm just being pedantic, clearly. Not all of us are made of money, and I'm not some tech nerd. from what I could see, such a rig was quite good and from reviews i've read on overclockers, can run crysis maxed out etc.
A year or two ago I had one chap try and convince me, on an Il-2 forum, that SoW would easily run on a gaming system of that time (this is pre DX11) His argument was that games nowadays are much better optimized for the current technology. Whether or not he is correct, at least SoW can run on such a system.
I mean, the tweaks that I think need to be make are hardly groundbreaking. If a hedge was one object it could run with a higher fps than a few trees, and so if there were, say, a dozen hedges on screen, I can't see that causing a huge performance drop. As for clouds, well, in every sense the way the model would be changed to give a flat bottom would trim it of the excess at the base; thus making it smaller. This might cause more of a performance drop, but it's been done in other sims, and I can't see it being an issue...
my point is that I'm not asking for the map to be littered with craters 30ft deep. These are just cosmetic details; they aren't groundbreaking.

Anyway, I don't want to argue about this. I'm really enjoying watching the progress of this sim and tbh i don't care what you think about my opinions; or what you care about things I've said in the past. please, this is the internet, not real life; i have nothing to prove to you, so stop caring. :cool:

[ATAG_Dutch]

in every sense the way the model would be changed to give a flat bottom would trim it of the excess at the base; thus making it smaller. This might cause more of a performance drop

:grin:

Ah those models from Kent.

[philip.ed]

No old boy, looks like somewhere gloomy up-north.

[ATAG_Dutch]

No old boy, looks like somewhere gloomy up-north.

Hey Phil, when you get to 1000 posts, will you become a Very Senior Member?
Or do they use an alternative euphemism?:grin:

[Hecke]

more clouds for Phillip.ed

Me too please. ;)

[philip.ed]

No, I'll probably be banned and told to step outside to remember what fresh air is :D
I never thought I'd have such a high post-count. It's because of the excitement of SoW (and also because I repeat myself quite alot)

back on topic.... :o

[LukeFF]

Very good news, but please, for the love of all that is good, stop posting images that are so huge. One image that has been posted twice here is over 2000 pixels wide. :roll: Show some respect for the other members here.

[Avimimus]

The He-59, Lysander and Autogyro appear to be missing as well.

I'm pretty sure the clouds are also WIP.

SoW:WoW

I think we have a new fan name.

[philip.ed]

Is there any one location to view all video and images as they come? i think I've seen all the videos so far posted, but how does one know?

[mazex]

Seen this?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DtynupR1-eA

[Hecke]

has been posted already.

[philip.ed]

Aye, but worthy of a repost in case anyone missed it ;)
It's times like this I wished I knew Russian.

[Dano]

Aye, but worthy of a repost in case anyone missed it ;)
It's times like this I wished I knew Russian.

Too right, has me thinking of learning the lingo lol :)

[The Kraken]

Google translate is only a poor substitute, but you can still get some interesting info between the noise. And Oleg has also posted some comments.

"When the bombing on the ground of each explosion formed a crater clearly. Explosions themselves are very beautiful. Elijah showed a layout machine-gun belts. From the presented set of historic ordnance can fill a tape completely independently of their wishes. Although the entire tape without tracers stuff."

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D65108%26page%3D14&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhiT9w4t-xPjVHyjiRpbLnFZZJFgsA

[Hecke]

If it's really a geometric 3D crater I am so happy with it :grin:

[Hecke]

Another short video.
And: http://spread-wings.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=355&Itemid=43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67kAczLHcXg

[Sven]

Another short video.

http://www.youtube.com/embed/67kAczLHcXg

Thanks hecke:), wow I think I'm going to faint, I haven't seen so many actual ingame footage in 6 years then in this one day:grin:

[KOM.Nausicaa]

LOL!

Weren't you the guy who alway asked for more complicated graphics?
Trees suck!
Clouds suck!
Fields, just wrong.

And you seriously thought you can have all that and get away with such an eco pc?

*still ROFL!*

It shows how little people actually understand about the ratio personal wishes vs. computer needs that result from it. I had a good laugh too.

[kendo65]

Google translate is only a poor substitute, but you can still get some interesting info between the noise.
...


Some of the 'noise' is priceless:


3. How bots talk (I mean the sound)?

... As the guys have said - the sound of horseradish estimate - around a wild hullabaloo ...


Hasn't stopped me wading through 15 pages worth of this crap though - looking for the next 'nugget' !! :)

[LukeFF]

Day 2:

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_466a.html

[kendo65]

don't know if this has been put up yet - too much to keep track of today - another 'nugget':

When the bombing on the ground of each explosion formed a crater clearly. Explosions themselves are very beautiful.
Elijah showed a layout machine-gun belts. From the presented set of historic ordnance can fill a tape completely independently of their wishes. Although the entire tape without tracers stuff.

I take that to mean that there is choice regarding ammo belt configuration (?)!


LINK:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D65108%26page%3D14&rurl=translate.google.com

my head is obviously fried - Kraken posted this on the previous page - and I actually quoted his post in my last response! Time to log off! :)

[Solnyshko]

Is there any one location to view all video and images as they come? i think I've seen all the videos so far posted, but how does one know?

Well try searching youtube for Битва за Британию (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_type=videos&search_query=%D0%91%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B2%D0%B0+%D0%B7 %D0%B0+%D0%91%D1%80%D0%B8%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD%D0%B8% D1%8E&search_sort=video_date_uploaded&suggested_categories=20,1&uni=3) and arrange by order of upload ;)

[kestrel79]

Another short video.
And: http://spread-wings.ru/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=355&Itemid=43

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67kAczLHcXg


The water looks great in that video wow. Love the waves. Can't wait to see an angry sea in some bad weather. :)

[Solnyshko]

For those who missed it on the other thread, the reason things are a bit of slideshow over land were outlined the day before the expo by Luthier on the Sukhoi forum

Должен всех предупредить. Компы нам подсунули слегка не те, которые мы ожидали. Узнали мы, естественно, вчера. Компы новейшие, core i7, Nvidia 460, но... Всего 2 гига памяти. Какой-то нонсенс, а не компы. А с двумя гигами, на основной гигантской карте на максимальных установках в 1920х1080 оно быстро летает только над водой.

Так что у нас была дилема. Или урезать установки и разрешение, и порхать, или показывать максимальное графическое декаденство, но тормозить. Выбрали мы второе.


Must notify all. Comp us slipped slightly off, which we expected. We learned, of course, yesterday. Comp newest, core i7, Nvidia 460, but ... Only 2 gig of memory. Some nonsense, and not component. A two-gigami, the main giant map on maximum settings at 1920x1080, it quickly flies just above the water.

So we had a dilemma. Or curtail the installation and resolution, and flit, or show the maximum graphic decadent, but slow. We chose the latter.

[Dano]

3EvpTp12IcM

[pupaxx]

3EvpTp12IcM

a lot of stuttering here!!! maybe low end machine?
anyway great landscape
ciao

[kendo65]

Fantastic, and the best video of the terrain yet seen.

If it is this good WHY have they been showing us those flawed screenshots and stirring up all that debate for so long???!!!

Easily surpasses any other flight sim that I've seen. :grin:

and...perfect colours too

[LukeFF]

a lot of stuttering here!!! maybe low end machine?

Read the prior posts here. :rolleyes:

[The Kraken]

If it is this good WHY have they been showing us those flawed screenshots and stirring up all that debate for so long???!!!

I'm sure Oleg enjoyed that :-P But actually there's nothing in those videos that hasn't been shown already one way or the other. But ok, it does make a difference to have everything integrated and in motion!

and...perfect colours too

Hard to say based on over-/underexposed iPhone videos. I'm sure people will find reason to complain again soon ;)

[major_setback]

The He-59, Lysander and Autogyro appear to be missing as well.

.

I think the Lysander was dropped from the game.

[Baron]

a lot of stuttering here!!! maybe low end machine?
anyway great landscape
ciao


Runs on a i5 with gtx460 and 2 gigs of ram...on MAXIMUM graphics settings.


In other words, Whoooooooooooooo

[Tree_UK]

It looks fantastic, but god knows how it will run with 30+ bombers and escorting fighters etc over land, I cant see 1GB more of ram helping those stutters/stops too much, hopefully there is more work to do on it yet.

[Tree_UK]

Runs on a i5 with gtx460 and 2 gigs of ram...on MAXIMUM graphics settings.


In other words, Whoooooooooooooo

It works, i wouldn't say it runs from what ive seen, even with just one aircraft it locks up over land. :(

[merlin1]

For those who missed it on the other thread, the reason things are a bit of slideshow over land were outlined the day before the expo by Luthier on the Sukhoi forum

Должен всех предупредить. Компы нам подсунули слегка не те, которые мы ожидали. Узнали мы, естественно, вчера. Компы новейшие, core i7, Nvidia 460, но... Всего 2 гига памяти. Какой-то нонсенс, а не компы. А с двумя гигами, на основной гигантской карте на максимальных установках в 1920х1080 оно быстро летает только над водой.

Так что у нас была дилема. Или урезать установки и разрешение, и порхать, или показывать максимальное графическое декаденство, но тормозить. Выбрали мы второе.


Must notify all. Comp us slipped slightly off, which we expected. We learned, of course, yesterday. Comp newest, core i7, Nvidia 460, but ... Only 2 gig of memory. Some nonsense, and not component. A two-gigami, the main giant map on maximum settings at 1920x1080, it quickly flies just above the water.

So we had a dilemma. Or curtail the installation and resolution, and flit, or show the maximum graphic decadent, but slow. We chose the latter.



So. If I understand clearly, then the graphics card ( like Nvidia gtx 460 1 GB) drives the game well. Problem is just becouse a lack of capacity of RAM. Enibody can confirm this ?


Sry for bad English.

rgr. PETKA

[The Kraken]

don't know if this has been put up yet - too much to keep track of today - another 'nugget':

When the bombing on the ground of each explosion formed a crater clearly. Explosions themselves are very beautiful.
Elijah showed a layout machine-gun belts. From the presented set of historic ordnance can fill a tape completely independently of their wishes. Although the entire tape without tracers stuff.

I take that to mean that there is choice regarding ammo belt configuration (?)!


LINK:
http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D65108%26page%3D14&rurl=translate.google.com

my head is obviously fried - Kraken posted this on the previous page - and I actually quoted his post in my last response! Time to log off! :)

Hehe better to post it twice... freaking individual ammo belt compositions!!! Not only a long-requested feature but also a major potential hazard for the online crowd - imagine the coming discussions about historical ammo composition ("100% MG is cheating!!!")

Other info I got when scanning through those posts:

- nice bomber crew animations
- AI radio messages greatly enhanced
- variation in AI attack patterns
- "Bots still swear" ;)
- no more streams of debris coming off bombers when shooting them

One more vid; not much we haven't seen by now. I think the plane is in the cloud shadow at some point which is a nice touch, but hard to say for sure.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qR6br0ERGhI

[The Kraken]

I cant see 1GB more of ram helping those stutters/stops too much

Why not?

[pupaxx]

It works, i wouldn't say it runs from what ive seen, even with just one aircraft it locks up over land. :(

:confused: so just memory bottleneck (2 gb)? ...and as previously said we talked about i7 core....but which among them i7 890x 3,33Ghz at 1018€ (my reference seller) or i7 930 2,8Ghz at 240€? :confused:
for sure my q6600@3,00Ghz and 8800gt are history.
Great work anyway!

[Baron]

It works, i wouldn't say it runs from what ive seen, even with just one aircraft it locks up over land. :(


I was more referring to the pc specs and the "MAXIMUM graphics" part, wich is, in all honesty way more than alot of us expected. Wouldnt u agree?

And 2 more gigs of ram would do alot of differance.;)

[Baron]

:confused: so just memory bottleneck (2 gb)? ...and as previously said we talked about i7 core....but which among them i7 890x 3,33Ghz at 1018€ (my reference seller) or i7 930 2,8Ghz at 240€? :confused:
for sure my q6600@3,00Ghz and 8800gt are history.
Great work anyway!


Well, dont dismiss the old quads just yet. Iv read on many ocassions where people stated that they (socket 775 Quads) can outperform the i5-i7 series when it comes to actuall gaming performance.

Dont stare to much on what u and others get in 3DMark Vantage and such. I does not accuratly reflect actuall gaming in any way.

[Tree_UK]

:grin:I was more referring to the pc specs and the "MAXIMUM graphics" part, wich is, in all honesty way more than alot of us expected. Wouldnt u agree?

And 2 more gigs of ram would do alot of differance.;)

It looks like they are running it with everything maxed out and on big monitors (high res), which is very promising, although I cant figure out how an extra gig of ram will help, it certainly doesn't in most games, i guess time will telll, but it looks very good indeed.

[pupaxx]

Well, dont dismiss the old quads just yet. Iv read on many ocassions where people stated that they (socket 775 Quads) can outperform the i5-i7 series when it comes to actuall gaming performance.

Dont stare to much on what u and others get in 3DMark Vantage and such. I does not accuratly reflect actuall gaming in any way.

obviously only when sow will came out we'll be able to judge how it runs and eventually to make Hw changes, I don't want to throw money
unnecessarily. I feel the sow release is closer and closer..
have a good day to everybody....

[addman]

Said it before, saying it again. The game is in BETA state, what you have seen performance wise so far is NOT by any means the final state of the game. I can already imagine the surprise of many here when they realise it's runs quite well on even modest hardware configurations LOL!

[The Kraken]

109 cockpit (in RAF service ;))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDW9Pm6qvs

[pupaxx]

....not to be greedy... but all these videos replace the abitual friday update or the 'daily bread' is to be expected..;) (ops.. weekly bread)
too avid?

[Dano]

:grin:

It looks like they are running it with everything maxed out and on big monitors (high res), which is very promising, although I cant figure out how an extra gig of ram will help, it certainly doesn't in most games, i guess time will telll, but it looks very good indeed.

Simplified:

When the system runs out of available ram it will start paging it to and from the hard drive, because the hard drive is so much slower than ram this is what causes the stutters and FPS issues. Thus adding more memory so that it doesn't need to page will remove the stutters you see over land.

[Qpassa]

please, upload more videos.thks

[Baron]

I think the recommended ram is 3 gigs

[Dano]

I think Luthier said it was 3GB Minimum not recommended.

[TheGrunch]

:grin:

It looks like they are running it with everything maxed out and on big monitors (high res), which is very promising, although I cant figure out how an extra gig of ram will help, it certainly doesn't in most games, i guess time will telll, but it looks very good indeed.
To be fair Tree, most games have quite different demands to flightsims in terms of memory, the best comparison I can think of in the sense of sheer size of the terrain map is the Arma series or maybe Oblivion or another one of the big sandbox games. Arma is similarly demanding at high settings and with Oblivion they used a cell system where only the objects in the current cell were rendered with the exception of certain objects specially defined to be shown all the time (and it was still a nightmare to run when it came out).
You're right though, at high settings, fighting a huge formation over land looks like it would be a PC-slaying activity for any current PC. :eek: Although we *have* seen one video of a fair few aircraft on screen at a time with the game running smoothly at what are presumably slightly lower settings (and with much less complete terrain) earlier on in development.

[Baron]

I think Luthier said it was 3GB Minimum not recommended.


Of course, my misstake. :)

[150GCT_Veltro]

109 cockpit (in RAF service ;))

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDW9Pm6qvs

Yes, somebody please say to these guys to use german insigna!!!!

I would hope for an Emil 3 "Late" with armoured protection for the pilot, but we'll take care of Spitfire with this baby however.

This Emil looks exciting, thank for the video!

[ChrisDNT]

I'm so much impressed by the quality of the lighting in these videos, this is nothing to compare with the latest "so-so" screenshots !!! :eek::grin:

[csThor]

I am not convinced that we've seen all of the Bf 109 versions, yet. In that one vid I made out four different Spit versions and I guess there's still something up Oleg's sleeve which he won't show ATM.

[ChrisDNT]

Btw, the landscape looks quite good too, much better, I repeat, than the latest screenshots (I'm beginning to suspect that the latest screenshots were some kind of cover traps).

[kendo65]

...

Other info I got when scanning through those posts:

- nice bomber crew animations
- AI radio messages greatly enhanced
- variation in AI attack patterns
- "Bots still swear" ;)
- no more streams of debris coming off bombers when shooting them
...



Actually, regarding the debris, I did read a response from Oleg where he said that there is debris but it's much finer than in il-2 (we saw this in a previous video - the one of the Spits attacking the Dorniers. Very fine metal flakes can be seen coming off the German ac.)

Oleg also said that panels will come off.

[150GCT_Veltro]

I am not convinced that we've seen all of the Bf 109 versions, yet. In that one vid I made out four different Spit versions and I guess there's still something up Oleg's sleeve which he won't show ATM.

Yes, 4 Spitfire and 2 Hurricane.

I really hope for more Emil me too:

- E1

- E3 "Late"

- E4 later as DLC

[150GCT_Veltro]

Btw, the landscape looks quite good too, much better, I repeat, than the latest screenshots (I'm beginning to suspect that the latest screenshots were some kind of cover traps).

A joke before the official presentation, i agree.

Yes, landscape looks much better now and finally with high definition textures.

[major_setback]

3EvpTp12IcM


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I did some screencaptures from this video, and corrected for distortion:


http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob01copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob05copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob06copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob07copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob08copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob09copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob10copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob11copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob12copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob13copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob14copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob15copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob17copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob18copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob19copy.jpg

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob20copy.jpg

resized:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/il042copy.jpg

[ChrisDNT]

One must see the thing in movement : screenshots look cartoonish, but videos look almost realistic (only critic, the green colors perhaps a little too vivid).

But I repeat, what amazes me at most is the quality of the lighting in the cockpits.

[The Kraken]

A joke before the official presentation, i agree.

Yes, landscape looks much better now and finally with high definition textures.

Not to me it doesn't. Same textures, colours impossible to judge (oversaturation and higher contrast with those cameras), detail level is of course higher, but still nothing fundamentally different here to what we've been shown in all those screens in the last months :confused:

[JG53Frankyboy]

Yes, 4 Spitfire and 2 Hurricane.

I really hope for more Emil me too:

- E1

- E3 "Late"

- E4 later as DLC

i could imagine a Hurricane Mk.I and a Mk.IIA
the Spitfires Mk.IA, IB (hopefully with only the two 20mm canons ;) )and also a IIA. The 4th ??

the 109 has no headarmour, ok, but a better view from the pit :D
and an E-1 and E-4 would be THE choices for a BoB game IMHO , sure with options to become -/B fighterbombers ;)
an E-4/N would be a welcomed surprise :D <- no hopes.........

and perhaps someone could tell the team that the so often called Bf110C-4/B was officially called a C-7 ;) - there was also only one 110 visible

poor "red" side, only the Blenheim IV is flyable in the shown gameversion as bombcarrier.................. i still have hoped for a flyable Wellington.



but all looks amazing !!!!!!!!!!!

[major_setback]

For comparison:

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/bob01copy.jpg

http://lh5.ggpht.com/_lCodc16u2kc/RaKXD7rzsLI/AAAAAAAAAvc/vmbaYYgdVOw/IMG_0466.JPG


From all the videos - I'm very happy with the landscape. It looks far better than I imagined it would.
The lighting is just about perfect too.

[fireflyerz]

One looks cold, univiting and massive , the other looks like a game.

[LukeFF]

I gotta chuckle at some people here making judgement calls on the terrain based on a video camera recording (of unknown quality and recording settings) of a video monitor (with no idea what type of color settings are being used on it) showing a BETA VERSION of the game.

Keep it up, fellas. It's great entertainment. :P

[Qpassa]

we want beta version :3

[Feathered_IV]

----

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/il042copy.jpg


Is that....? It IS! The Westland Strumpet finally becomes playable. Love the sideburns. Great to have something to hang onto.

[Hecke]

I bet you haven't seen this. :grin:

Video of the presentation:

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html?v=8d73212c4f8dc85faf46b8b757bf2761

[pupaxx]

... in some shot extracted from a video shared I noticed to a detail I hope will tuned up before release. I'm referring to the too much reflexive shader of water. In a shot depicting clearly a rough sea the clouds are reflected innaturally,the effect evocate a quiet lake rather than a rough surface.
physically a rough surface disrupt the incident rays and the image reflected is heavy blurred or not reflected at all.
see U

[Rodolphe]

...


There's a "Dark Bow" shadow effect on forest, ahead of this flying No. 302 Polish Fighter Squadron Hurricane. It seems to impact as well the isolated trees.
It's particularly visible around 3'35" and 3'45" on this 720p Full screen video.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3EvpTp12IcM&feature=player_embedded


...

[Dano]

...


There's a "Dark Bow" shadow effect on forest, ahead of this flying Hurricane. It seems to impact as well the isolated trees.
It's particulary visible around 3'35" and 3'45" on this video at 720p Full screen.



...

Shadows/LOD popping in I reckon.

[Baron]

I bet you haven't seen this. :grin:

Video of the presentation:

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html?v=8d73212c4f8dc85faf46b8b757bf2761


Look at 07.51 min, by the cliffs, might as well be real.

[SaQSoN]

I bet you haven't seen this. :grin:

Video of the presentation:

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html?v=8d73212c4f8dc85faf46b8b757bf2761

Maddox himself doing the BoB presentation. All in Russian. Poor quality. ;)

[Hecke]

Next one :)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EmtigE5GxUE

[Hecke]

Does someone know where these little white clouds of smoke come from?

0:20 - 0:24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feR3S11Z9hs

[mazex]

The interesting thing is that either all our whining about colour palettes etc has been used as input or we have been crying about some old build while they have had this build for a long time which quite frankly looks amazing to me...

Ok, a bit too much saturation (color) maybe but heck - there are hedge rows, trees placed where you expect them, no weird shade of violet and the whole landscape looks like someone enabled a lot of shaders that where of on the dev shots we have seen (which is probably the thing we have not seen before)...

Conclusion - the discussion if sim <insert name> maybe looks better etc was for no good - BoB is the xxxx - and that's good ;)

Lesson (as many times before) - believe in Oleg!

[Stranzki]

Does someone know where these little white clouds of smoke come from?

0:20 - 0:24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feR3S11Z9hs

Self-Exploding canon shells like we already have in IL2 ( I guess )

[kgwanchos]

I gotta chuckle at some people here making judgement calls on the terrain based on a video camera recording (of unknown quality and recording settings) of a video monitor (with no idea what type of color settings are being used on it) showing a BETA VERSION of the game.

Keep it up, fellas. It's great entertainment. :P

Same here ... hilarious !!

[JG52Uther]

I actually think a Q6600 will play this just fine.Throw in a decent gfx card,and 4 GBs of ram,and it will run well IMO.
Don't forget,nobody could play il2 at maximum settings when it was released.

[Hecke]

I actually think a Q6600 will play this just fine.Throw in a decent gfx card,and 4 GBs of ram,and it will run well IMO.
Don't forget,nobody could play il2 at maximum settings when it was released.

+1

As I said in the other thread, there's still a lot of free space for better graphics, more objects and features. This is a good sign.

[JG53Harti]

I think so, I will keep my Q9550@3,6GHz. I will only change my videocard to a better one if SOW will be out. Now I use a NV285

[The Kraken]

The interesting thing is that either all our whining about colour palettes etc has been used as input or we have been crying about some old build while they have had this build for a long time which quite frankly looks amazing to me...

Ok, a bit too much saturation (color) maybe but heck - there are hedge rows, trees placed where you expect them, no weird shade of violet and the whole landscape looks like someone enabled a lot of shaders that where of on the dev shots we have seen (which is probably the thing we have not seen before)...

Repeating myself here, but for me it's the complete opposite. All of what is shown here was already part of the development updates in one form or another. It's definitely great to see everything integrated and working finally, but I fail to see any new shaders, textures, objects etc...

Lesson (as many times before) - believe in Oleg!

Agreed ;)

[Stranzki]

+1

As I said in the other thread, there's still a lot of free space for better graphics, more objects and features. This is a good sign.

Oleg stated already that they'll introduce / unlock other graphical features step by step in the future. On this way SoW and its ancestor will keep having a decent look over the years.

[genbrien]

I think so, I will keep my Q9550@3,6GHz. I will only change my videocard to a better one if SOW will be out. Now I use a NV285

will keep my q9550 @3.8ghz as well.... wont have any difference with a standard i7 :rolleyes:

will upgrade my ati4870 though, and might as well add some more ram :-P

[Hecke]

Landscape from high altitude.

[Immermann]

Landscape from high altitude.

Cool, ferry tank on the Su-26.

[major_setback]

Landscape from high altitude.

I adjusted the hue on this one:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/-26_3b.jpg

[Hecke]

Look at this. Spitfire with the girl in it incl. bailout of them together. Sweet.

1:17+
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xCAHUxQgUfc

[addman]

LOL! Best feature so far!

[Hecke]

Luthier shows sth.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vtx3PSPkN8g

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90EwI84bLTQ

[Avimimus]

I think the Lysander was dropped from the game.

Well we can always hope for the first addon (Beachhead defense or dropping off agents).

[addman]

Personal wish for me would be the Walrus as flyable.

[major_setback]

From Oleg's presentation...video:

The cloth/paper covering the guns is torn when the guns fire in the video:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/pres02b.jpg
http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/pres03b.jpg

[Sven]

I especially like the firing effects in that video from Oleg, something which cannot be shown in a screenshot :)

[Dano]

From Oleg's presentation.. video:

The cloth/paper covering the guns is torn when the guns fire:

That's been known for months.

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

I haven`t understand the "Battle for Moscow" statement, the videos are very impressiv, realy stuning, I`m with il2 since the first Demo.

Will we get 2 Simulations or is the Moscow the next step for SOW?!

[FG28_Kodiak]

The second addon will be "Battle of Moscow"

[The Kraken]

I haven`t understand the "Battle for Moscow" statement, the videos are very impressiv, realy stuning, I`m with il2 since the first Demo.

Will we get 2 Simulations or is the Moscow the next step for SOW?!

Actually we'll get three but not at the same time: "On the right side of the wall is an announcement of a new title titled The Battle for Moscow. It will not be the next release but probably almost in parallel with the next release."

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_465a.html

Sounds like we will first see the Battle of Britain, and then two further releases at roughly the same time, one of which is "Battle for Moscow". No release date for those yet, we only know they're been in production already.

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Thanks for the infos, my russian is a bit nonexistent ;)

I would even pay for a small Addon combines the "Battle for Poland" and "Battle for France"

we will see how money intensiv those addons will be ;)

[FG28_Kodiak]

Oleg statet:
Ну... так сказать возможный проект... который уже стартовал. Он делается с нашей помошью, на нашем движке и тп... и будет возможно объединить с БзБ.

срок разработки - более двух лет. Шибко много делать. Несмотря на многое готовое уже (движок, некоторая наземка немецкая, самолеты). Битва за Москву - это покруче будет, чем БзБ.... - пущат на западе знают, что и ПВО Москвы и летчики и Радары у СССР были. И не дали по настоящему бомбить Москву они... а в итоге и вообще немцам пришлось от этой идеи отказаться... Надо туда бы и историю со сбитым немецким самолетом с химическим оружием на борту.... чтобы знал мир что планировалось...

(http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showpost.php?p=1491292&postcount=32)

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Would be great to translate it please ;)

[Col.Flanders]

Look at this. Spitfire with the girl in it incl. bailout of them together. Sweet.

1:17+


Is it me or does the in-cockpit dynamic lighting seem lowered in this video? It doesn't seem as pronounced and realistic as the others. Shadows of the aircraft spars etc. don't seem apparent in the 'pit - more of a softer approach ala IL2. When he starts up again after the bailout it seems higher quality though. Maybe it's just the position of the a/c relative to the sun.

Either way, I must say that the high quality lighting we've seen recently in these vids, for me, is fantastic to say the least.

[Dano]

Would be great to translate it please ;)

Oleg statet:
Well ... So tell prospective project ... which has already started. It is with our help, our engine, etc. .. and it will be possible to combine with BzB.

term of exploitation-more than two years. Shybko lot do. Despite much ready already (engine, some nazemka German aircraft). Battle of Moscow is quite steep will than BzB ....-puŝat in the West know that pilots and air defense of Moscow and the USSR and radar. And did they really bomb Moscow ... as a result, and the Germans had the idea to ... Should there be a story of the downed German aircraft with chemical weapons on board .... to know the world that was ...

[76.IAP-Blackbird]

Interesting read! Thank you ;)

[first-things-first]

Would be great to translate it please ;)

Not so sure - don't try google at home kids!! :)

"In general, there is so much settings that even I'm asking. from Roman and what it is ... he's naprogrammiroval you <<fesking>> cloud of realism ... off here is how something should be this <<fesking>> cloud, not to show the setting is normal .... And that kettle just fall off the chair."

Well I nearly pee'd myself and fell off my chair. Some interpretation needed.

[SaQSoN]

Oleg statet:
Ну... так сказать возможный проект... который уже стартовал. Он делается с нашей помошью, на нашем движке и тп... и будет возможно объединить с БзБ.

срок разработки - более двух лет. Шибко много делать. Несмотря на многое готовое уже (движок, некоторая наземка немецкая, самолеты). Битва за Москву - это покруче будет, чем БзБ.... - пущат на западе знают, что и ПВО Москвы и летчики и Радары у СССР были. И не дали по настоящему бомбить Москву они... а в итоге и вообще немцам пришлось от этой идеи отказаться... Надо туда бы и историю со сбитым немецким самолетом с химическим оружием на борту.... чтобы знал мир что планировалось...

Oleggish Russian + automated translator = total gibberish. :) Here's better version:
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Well... So to speak, possible project... Which already lunched. It is being developed with our help, using our engine, etc... And it will be possible to merge it with BoB.

Time of development - more then 2 years. A lots of things to do. Despite there are already many things done (the engine, some German ground units, planes). Battle for Moscow - this would be tougher, then BoB... - let them at the West know, that there were Moscow Air Defense and pilots and radars in the USSR. And they didn't let bomb Moscow really hard. Which eventually forced Germans to abandon that idea at all... We also should get in there the story with downed German plane, which had chemical weapons on board... So the world would know, what they have planned...
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[SaQSoN]

Well I nearly pee'd myself and fell off my chair. Some interpretation needed.

В общем там столько настроек, что даже я спрашива. у Романа, а чего это такое... он там напрограммировал вам хренову тучу реализма... отключать вот как-то надо эту хренову тучу, чтобы не показывалась с настройкой нормально.... А то чайник просто со стула упадет.

All-in-all, there so many [keyboard command - SQ] settings, that even I had to ask Roman [their functionality programmer - SQ] what this all for... He programmed a f*king heap of realism for you... We should make some way to switch that f*king heap [of keyboard settings - SQ] off, so it won't show with normal [difficulty] settings... Or a dummy [a newbie player] would just fall off the chair.

:lol: It's funny even with normal translation, so I had to put my comments, to make it clearer.

[krz9000]

in germany you can get 8 gig of ddr3 ram for under 100 euro. this is pc gaming. its the platform that pushes technology. if your tight on money i would recommend a console or stick to il2. since flightsimming is a hardware intensive genre i dont see any sense in adjusting a new title to an audience that is too tight upgrading their computers once in a while. even with 4 gigs im sure you can run this pretty well. and if not on maximum settings well then im sure there will be options.

[first-things-first]

All-in-all, there so many [keyboard command - SQ] settings, that even I had to ask Roman [their functionality programmer - SQ] what this all for... He programmed a f*king heap of realism for you... We should make some way to switch that f*king heap [of keyboard settings - SQ] off, so it won't show with normal [difficulty] settings... Or a dummy [a newbie player] would just fall off the chair.

:lol: It's funny even with normal translation, so I had to put my comments, to make it clearer.

Thanks for that. Thought the expletives were just a mis-translation - he said "flippin" or some such euphemism.

Are you official Olegish translator? :lol:

[C_G]

All-in-all, there so many [keyboard command - SQ] settings, that even I had to ask Roman [their functionality programmer - SQ] what this all for... He programmed a f*king heap of realism for you... We should make some way to switch that f*king heap [of keyboard settings - SQ] off, so it won't show with normal [difficulty] settings... Or a dummy [a newbie player] would just fall off the chair.

:lol: It's funny even with normal translation, so I had to put my comments, to make it clearer.

:grin: LOL, Thanks SaQson... Looking forward to a F*king heap of keyboard settings ;):grin:

PS- the high alt pics posted by Hecke look really, really, good to me... no obvious tiling of terrain textures at all-

[SaQSoN]

Thanks for that. Thought the expletives were just a mis-translation - he said "flippin" or some such euphemism.

Well, literary, he said "a horse-reddish heap" :grin: Which in Russian rather means "a heap of dicks". :lol: So, I thought, "a f*king heap" would be a most correct translation.

Are you official Olegish translator? :lol:

He doesn't pay me for this, if that's what you ask. So, no. I am enthusiast Olegish translator. :cool:

[swiss]

in germany you can get 8 gig of ddr3 ram for under 100 euro. this is pc gaming. its the platform that pushes technology. if your tight on money i would recommend a console or stick to il2. since flightsimming is a hardware intensive genre i dont see any sense in adjusting a new title to an audience that is too tight upgrading their computers once in a while. even with 4 gigs im sure you can run this pretty well. and if not on maximum settings well then im sure there will be options.

Yeah, like we're scared of the ram requirements.

I'll need a new GPU (or two), plus I'm not sure what an OC 955 can do...

So we're talking about 1k rather than 100. ;)

[Hecke]

What I really don't like of what I've seen so far ist that the pilot figures have no shadow.

You look left or right on the wing and you see an empty canopy :rolleyes:

[AWL_Spinner]

It's looking great, I love the bit of video of the Su-26, but....

I just wish I could see one shot, one short clip, of bad weather.

Of any weather, come to think of it, besides the brightest of summer's days and the fluffiest of cotton wool clouds.

I think we've seen a single picture of something approaching an overcast (with a Wellington) but then the same thing from a different angle revealed the cloud coverage to be very limited.

If it's there, someone, anyone, please show it! Weather played a HUGE role in 1940.

:)

[philip.ed]

Awesome videos and screenshots; this is enough for 10 Friday updates IMHO.
It's great to see everything pieced together, and the fact that the game can even run on such a system with adequate fps over water is excellent IMO (and with max graphics...)

There's nothing more to say, really; I'm in awe. This is finally tangible (although maybe Mystipuma thought that in 2006?)

[Durham_Duke]

Hey I dont even know how to say vodka in Russian!

Regards

Viking

I think the girl with the deely boppers could tell you. ;)

[C_G]

Weather played a HUGE role in 1940.


That's a myth. Weather is a new phenomenon (since the late '80s). Don't believe the hype. :shock::razz:

[Richie]

Has anyone posted this yet? It was over in simhq. Presentation vid.


http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html?v=8d73212c4f8dc85faf46b8b757bf2761

[Richie]

Awesome videos and screenshots; this is enough for 10 Friday updates IMHO.
It's great to see everything pieced together, and the fact that the game can even run on such a system with adequate fps over water is excellent IMO (and with max graphics...)

There's nothing more to say, really; I'm in awe. This is finally tangible (although maybe Mystipuma thought that in 2006?)


If it came out then it couldn't look like this though. Just think of what the movie makers and skinners can do with this beauty. After all the best movie makers and skinners all fly IL-2....let's face it. :)

[Blackdog_kt]

Exciting times at last, seems it's right around the corner now ;)
Thankfully i wasn't wrong to believe and hope that the sum of all features shown in an isolated fashion in static screenshots, finally ends up being more than the sum of its parts when seen integrated and in motion.

Google translate is only a poor substitute, but you can still get some interesting info between the noise. And Oleg has also posted some comments.

"When the bombing on the ground of each explosion formed a crater clearly. Explosions themselves are very beautiful. Elijah showed a layout machine-gun belts. From the presented set of historic ordnance can fill a tape completely independently of their wishes. Although the entire tape without tracers stuff."

http://translate.googleusercontent.com/translate_c?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php%3Ft%3D65108%26page%3D14&rurl=translate.google.com&usg=ALkJrhiT9w4t-xPjVHyjiRpbLnFZZJFgsA

The way i read this? "You'll be able to change your ammunition belting as you see fit".

If this is what google translate means, then that's some pretty good news...no tracers, swoop in and rake them with 20mm fire while they are totally unaware of what's happening :grin:


Runs on a i5 with gtx460 and 2 gigs of ram...on MAXIMUM graphics settings.


In other words, Whoooooooooooooo

Yup. No upgrade for me. I have an i7 920 (not OC'ed) with 3GB of RAM and an Ati 4890 1GB running winXP 32bit. Actually, the 3GB i got because i didn't want to touch Vista with a 10-foot pole back when i bought it, so i had to stay under the 4GB limit. Also, it made sense due to the i7's/mobo tripple channel feature, so i got 3 sticks of 1GB each.

It's not the best gaming PC out there but judging from the PCs they were running on the show, i guess it has the "oomph" to do the job.

The 4890 does DX10 and as i doubt tesselation will factor in heavily for now, i don't care about getting a DX11 card yet. A few months ago i have also installed win7 64bit on a second disk so i'm good to go. In fact if i get anything at all, it will probably be an extra 3GB of RAM and that will be it for some time.


I gotta chuckle at some people here making judgement calls on the terrain based on a video camera recording (of unknown quality and recording settings) of a video monitor (with no idea what type of color settings are being used on it) showing a BETA VERSION of the game.

Keep it up, fellas. It's great entertainment. :P

True. We don't know how the monitors are calibrated (if they are calibrated at all) and this image is then fed through crappy phone cameras sporting a tiny lens, or a proper videocamera to which we still don't know the specs and how they affect further distortion of the image.

The only way to know how it will look on our PCs is have someone FRAPS it at full detail and send us the .avi to play back on our own screen. Chill out people ;)


Does someone know where these little white clouds of smoke come from?

0:20 - 0:24 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=feR3S11Z9hs

That's probably smoke from the guns firing.

[furbs]

one thing that ive noticed is the lack of sun glare from a bright high sun when people have looked almost right into it...prob still WIP though :)

[C_G]

Has anyone posted this yet? It was over in simhq. Presentation vid.


http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html?v=8d73212c4f8dc85faf46b8b757bf2761

Yep, but it's the first time I've gotten through it to the end.

What I found especially interesting, in light of the whole debate about how stuttery the fps got in the other vid (me-110 near seaside town on the i5+2gig+nv460 machine), is how smooth the fps were in the su-26 portion in the last 2 mins of this one.

I found watching the su-26 sequence to be highly re-assuring even though it may have been captured from a high-end machine and with lower graphics settings (though it doesn't look any worse to me- the chalk cliffs, in particular, look truly photorealistic!!)

C_G

[Richie]

A small one. Something flies off an aircraft and hits this Spitfire I think in the first part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5SxEFIHfg

[proton45]

Sorry if these where posted already...I dont remember seeing them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OYYFlTzkI0M&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z0eCPeBFEG4&NR=1


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Go5IQPpIX8s&feature=related

[Richie]

Yes but people may miss them so I can't see the harm. Not all of us have the time to spend hours and hours in front of our computers searching for videos and looking at post.

[proton45]

Yes but people may miss them so I can't see the harm. Not all of us have the time to spend hours and hours in front of our computers searching for videos and looking at post.

Are they posted in this thread? I don't see them...I'll take'm out if they are.

[major_setback]

Not a bad cityscape...nicely varied and interesting:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/air_466a_018copy2.jpg

From:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/air_466a_018.jpg

[chiefrr73]

more scrennshots:
http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65178&page=2
scroll down to the end.

[Richie]

No nonsense leave them in that wasn't sarcasm. By all means leave them in!

[Foo'bar]

About the videos: for your pleasure I've put them all together in one post at my blog:

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/category/computerspiele/storm-of-war-computerspiele/screenshots/

[Richie]

About the videos: for your pleasure I've put them all together in one post at my blog:

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/category/computerspiele/storm-of-war-computerspiele/screenshots/


You da man Foo'bar :)

[philip.ed]

Foobar, I was just about to post to say to have a look at your great site! Cheers mate ;)
Will you add any pictures too?

[Necrobaron]

I am nearly speechless. I didn't check this forum until today, not really expecting any updates based on what Oleg said last week, and it looks like I missed out on a lot of news since yesterday. The cockpits and the dynamic lighting look fantastic. I guess they should since that would be what we see the most of. The clip were the debris hits the windscreen and cracks it looks very convincing.

So to be clear, it looks like we're getting Storm of War initially and then at some unknown (right?) point later we're getting Battle for Moscow and another unknown add-on concurrently? I'd love to see MG rewind a bit and depict the air combat of the Polish and French campaigns.

Was the "accidental" showing of Pacific Fighters presentation files truly an accident or might we read more into that?

I'm also looking forward to hearing an explanation regarding the lass in the cockpit. That was unexpected, to be sure.
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[ATAG_Dutch]

Was the "accidental" showing of Pacific Fighters presentation files truly an accident or might we read more into that?

I'd assume it was there as it was in last week's update. i.e. as a showing of the developer's pedigree to date.

In that update, Mr Maddox hinted at the posting of a further video in next week's update.

Personally, I hope that's going to be the Su26 vid shown at the show.

Oh yes...................:grin:

[Foo'bar]

Foobar, I was just about to post to say to have a look at your great site! Cheers mate ;)
Will you add any pictures too?

I think stills are less interesting this friday ;)

[philip.ed]

Yes, the videos are in a class of their own (save for the sometimes poor camera quality) ;)

[The Kraken]

one thing that ive noticed is the lack of sun glare from a bright high sun when people have looked almost right into it...prob still WIP though :)

From Russia with love: (http://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http%3A%2F%2Fsukhoi.ru%2Fforum%2Fshowthread.php% 3Ft%3D65108%26page%3D20)

- When you look through the scope, you can not turn my head more than 45% (approx)
- Skill of bots is now defined by a set of characteristics: a review, the tactics, aerobatics, etc. situation is possible when the bot sees well, but as soon merges fight. I'm in a duel in the opponent was a bot who was obviously ill with the review. He did not see me until the moment of firing at him, after leaving me to a split, he immediately lost me again and flew in a straight line to a new attack on it.
- A decrease in speed begin to notice the visual lobe
- With a dive to sleep on the maximum thrust too Unscrew the screws and lamp immediately began to swim in butter, until the complete loss of visibility
- The sun must be blind, but on the last day it broke by accident
- The flame burns through skin
- During a flight without a separate cockpit displays aircraft which shows damage to various systems with the degree of damage
- Still remembered that in the settings of control is a button "to weaken the belt." Accordingly, when the weakened belts angles of rotation of the head more, but shakes his head when maneuvering stronger
- Watched the view from the cockpit under the water, really like under water)). not included in the silt look at falling into the water.
- Asked Elijah if still planned to implement a delay to the actions of pilots, well, that is, as if the pilot pulls the hand and it takes time and, accordingly, abort the previous action in the performance of the new. Ilya said that this is sort of implemented. I myself did not check, was forgotten once the flights.


Sounds to me like there was simply a bug with the sun glare effect. Some interesting info otherwise as far as it's understandable... ;)

[kendo65]

A small one. Something flies off an aircraft and hits this Spitfire I think in the first part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5SxEFIHfg

Actually, it's a head-on attack by an Me 110. :!:

[DoolittleRaider]

...

So to be clear, it looks like we're getting Storm of War initially and then at some unknown (right?) point later we're getting Battle for Moscow and another unknown add-on...

My guess is SOW:Battle of Britain, SOW:Mediterranean, then SOW:Moscow....in that order. Otherwise, why would 1C have invested so much effort into including Italian Regia Aeronautica aircraft into BofB, when the RA contributed almost nothing to the the BofB. For the Med Theater of Operations in 1940, however, he already has available (in SOW:BofB) the RA BR20, CR42, G50, and all the early RAF birds, Spits, Hurri's, etc.

He just needs a map of North Africa (Libya-Egypt front, which is lots of desert, and Malta) and he can immediately put a SOW:Mediterranean on the shelf for sale...expanding aircraft types in a subsequent Med-1942 release/patch. SOW:Moscow would require an extensive array of new Russian aircraft and more complex new maps.

Just a guess...imho.

[McHilt]

I bet you haven't seen this. :grin:

Video of the presentation:

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3742502.html?v=8d73212c4f8dc85faf46b8b757bf2761

My goodness, soooooo awesome... love to hear Oleg speak, love all the detail,
and the russian language too :grin: This movie surpasses everything I have seen so far, especially the landscape and the SU... WOW
Many, many thanks for sharing this folks! Keep it going.

[Necrobaron]

Regarding Kraken's post:

Geez, the little details they are modelling are amazing. Loosening the safety harness for better visibility at the increased risk of body movement during hard maneuvering is pretty neat.

By "flame burns through skin" are we to infer that fire will now dynamically burn through aircraft aluminum?
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[Necrobaron]

My guess is SOW:Battle of Britain, SOW:Mediterranean, then SOW:Moscow....in that order. Otherwise, why would 1C have invested so much effort into including Italian Regia Aeronautica aircraft into BofB, when the RA contributed almost nothing to the the BofB. For the Med Theater of Operations in 1940, however, he already has available (in SOW:BofB) the RA BR20, CR42, G50, and all the early RAF birds, Spits, Hurri's, etc.

He just needs a map of North Africa (Libya-Egypt front, which is lots of desert, and Malta) and he can immediately put a SOW:Mediterranean on the shelf for sale...expanding aircraft types in a subsequent Med-1942 release/patch. SOW:Moscow would require an extensive array of new Russian aircraft and more complex new maps.

Just a guess...imho.

Sounds logical to me.
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[SaQSoN]

By "flame burns through skin" are we to infer that fire will now dynamically burn through aircraft aluminum?

1. Now any part of the plane (and not only engines, or fuel tanks, as it was in IL-2) can catch fire.
2. If a part burned for too long, it turns into damaged state (if not already).
3. The fire can spread onto neighboring parts, i.e. you may catch fire somewhere in the middle of a wing and then, in some time the whole plane, from nose to tail will be ablaze, if you don't manage to extinguish it somehow.

[philip.ed]

That's awesome.
Will oxygen, say if the fire was in the cockpit, cause the flames to be more fierce. SO if we turned the oxygen supply off, the flames would go out?

[JG52Uther]

A small one. Something flies off an aircraft and hits this Spitfire I think in the first part.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7P5SxEFIHfg

That head on attack would make me jump under the table!

[Fafnir_6]

My guess is SOW:Battle of Britain, SOW:Mediterranean, then SOW:Moscow....in that order. Otherwise, why would 1C have invested so much effort into including Italian Regia Aeronautica aircraft into BofB, when the RA contributed almost nothing to the the BofB. For the Med Theater of Operations in 1940, however, he already has available (in SOW:BofB) the RA BR20, CR42, G50, and all the early RAF birds, Spits, Hurri's, etc.

He just needs a map of North Africa (Libya-Egypt front, which is lots of desert, and Malta) and he can immediately put a SOW:Mediterranean on the shelf for sale...expanding aircraft types in a subsequent Med-1942 release/patch. SOW:Moscow would require an extensive array of new Russian aircraft and more complex new maps.

Just a guess...imho.

Makes sense...

I certainly hope this release order is the case. Otherwise, DT should have more freedom to make mediterranean content (not to mention all the great med content that was vetoed/not pursued in the past). Storm of War will be awesome, there is no doubt of that, but I hate seeing the MTO getting the shaft as it so often does. Here's hoping we'll see a Med pack for SoW soon after BoB is released (I haven't seen any official comments on this at all).

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

[Richie]

I think it was said that the Med is next after BOB. A lot of people love Korea but I'm sure that will be kind of a separate thing? Half the population of Hyperlobby would be furious if it branched off into another war before it went down to North Africa, but I've seen a picture of a Sky Raider but no F4 or Spitfire Mk.V. No P-40s etc. So I don't know what to make of that :(

[philip.ed]

Makes sense...

I certainly hope this release order is the case. Otherwise, DT should have more freedom to make mediterranean content (not to mention all the great med content that was vetoed/not pursued in the past). Storm of War will be awesome, there is no doubt of that, but I hate seeing the MTO getting the shaft as it so often does. Here's hoping we'll see a Med pack for SoW soon after BoB is released (I haven't seen any official comments on this at all).

Cheers,

Fafnir_6

Oleg has mentioned Africa...

[IceFire]

Oleg has mentioned Africa...

Yes he has several times in fact over the years. Also his recent statement saying that they would like to start with the next product having about 50% of the content from Battle of Britain - So North Africa makes some sense as much of the aircraft content for all three air forces represented in Battle of Britain would be either the same or various advancements on what was in Battle of Britain (i.e. it doesn't take much to model a Mark Vb or Vc Spitfire from a Mark I or change up a Hurricane I into any Mark II).

[FAE_Cazador]

About the videos: for your pleasure I've put them all together in one post at my blog:

http://fooblog.mexxoft.com/category/computerspiele/storm-of-war-computerspiele/screenshots/

Excellent work!

May I suggest Mr. Nearmiss or other moderator to put a sticky post with this link on top? So everybody can have at hand all the videos (and others that could appear?

[Richie]

Yes he has several times in fact over the years. Also his recent statement saying that they would like to start with the next product having about 50% of the content from Battle of Britain - So North Africa makes some sense as much of the aircraft content for all three air forces represented in Battle of Britain would be either the same or various advancements on what was in Battle of Britain (i.e. it doesn't take much to model a Mark Vb or Vc Spitfire from a Mark I or change up a Hurricane I into any Mark II).

That's good because I don't like seeing stuff like this. Although the way Oleg is he might have all the North Africa aircraft done, who knows.



http://mission4today.com/index.php?name=ForumsPro&file=viewtopic&t=3950

[kedrednael]

Not a bad cityscape...nicely varied and interesting:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/air_466a_018copy2.jpg

From:

http://i4.photobucket.com/albums/y129/major-setback/air_466a_018.jpg

Wow!, this time I actually really thougth it was a real photo from 1940 taken from a spitfire :grin:
never had that before ;)

[The Kraken]

Some new stuff here: pilot on chute and some Ju-88 scenes.

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3743496.html?v=61ba5b99643e4ae777ef72a90bcb0b5b
http://rutube.ru/tracks/3743507.html?v=b5208c31ef2d9c4bcabc000730696f75

Not everything perfect yet but damn... those instrument on the engine nacelles... the gun stations... the feeling of really being inside the cramped cockpit. Incredible.

[The Kraken]

SimHQ Day 3 update from Oleg:

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_467a.html

[kendo65]

Some new stuff here: pilot on chute and some Ju-88 scenes.
...
Not everything perfect yet but damn... those instrument on the engine nacelles... the gun stations... the feeling of really being inside the cramped cockpit. Incredible.

Thanks. Interesting to see what the other side of the Channel looks like - French fields. :)

[Bloblast]

Can you pull the ripcord yourself?
Would be cool!

You can see houses from close when pilot is landed, these are very detailed!
Really more detailed than I expected.

[philip.ed]

Can you pull the ripcord yourself?
Would be cool!

Yes, very CFS2. I always loved that feature :D

[kestrel79]

I'm really liking that ju88 cockpit! The gunner positions have so much more depth to them with the nice shadowing. Plus you get a total cramped feeling with all the people inside too!

I CANNOT wait to crew a bomber with all real people inside and fly online. :)

[major_setback]

SimHQ Day 3 update from Oleg:

http://www.simhq.com/_air13/air_467a.html

This one: Amazing, it's like a photo of a good model aircraft kit. I like the camo colours.

http://i58.photobucket.com/albums/g260/restranger/air_467a_006.jpg?t=1288997692

[Richie]

I think that was the only thing I liked about CFS3. I took it back to the store in about 4 hrs. after I bought it. I already had IL-2

[Freycinet]

First look at easy instruments in posting 45 in this thread:

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65178&page=2

[bf-110]

Let me understand...
That´s a SoW official "show to the public",right?
So why it´s written IL2 at the left in the board?

And if eastern european theater will be the third release of SoW,about what will be the second?

[Necrobaron]

That Ju-88 cockpit looks awesome and the detail on the crewmembers is impressive. The co-pilot/gunner looks scared to death though!
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[JG53Frankyboy]

First look at easy instruments in posting 45 in this thread:

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65178&page=2
And you See a picture of the 4 "actual" Spitfires , a MkIIa And 3 MkIs - whatever the differences between them will be.......

[Necrobaron]

I can't imagine preferring Wonder Woman View over those gorgeous cockpits!
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[Richie]

See what maybe the box there.

[major_setback]

Let me understand...
That´s a SoW official "show to the public",right?
So why it´s written IL2 at the left in the board?

And if eastern european theater will be the third release of SoW,about what will be the second?

If you missed the discussion it starts about here:

http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=17135&page=57


Nothing is confirmed, just speculation. But it certainly looks like it might be UBI who will publish, and IL2 as the series title.

Look here too

http://igromir.softclub.ru/games.aspx?id=il-2

The order of theatres:
I think it will be Bob; Med; Moscow and also Korea squeezed in somewhere.

Moscow might make it as the second release though.

[Richie]

I've noticed what great visibility the E3 has. With no amour plate behind our heads though we'll be getting it shot off a few times but I think I'd rather see.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nKDW9Pm6qvs

[furbs]

One video im waiting to see is a good shot of a clean kill :)

[airmalik]

haha

I got a chuckle out of this too:

Charger :
Oleg, tell us more about the editor. And then looked to see, for Joy used and Kraft dropped I was searching for a great editor - not found

Oleg:
Guys, I have no strength ... Editor's there not be circumcised for the exhibition. Located in the Advanced> Full editor.
It is strange that they found none.
But it is clear ... The interface is completely different.

[Splitter]

haha

I got a chuckle out of this too:

Charger :
Oleg, tell us more about the editor. And then looked to see, for Joy used and Kraft dropped I was searching for a great editor - not found

Oleg:
Guys, I have no strength ... Editor's there not be circumcised for the exhibition. Located in the Advanced> Full editor.
It is strange that they found none.
But it is clear ... The interface is completely different.

Well, I bet the editors were glad to hear that was not a requirement!

Keep the videos and stuff coming folks! This stuff is magnificent! Can't wait to get my hands on this. Love the stuff I am hearing about the AI.

Splitter

[SaQSoN]

That's awesome.
Will oxygen, say if the fire was in the cockpit, cause the flames to be more fierce. SO if we turned the oxygen supply off, the flames would go out?

If the fire is in cockpit, IRL you would be concerned how to get out ASAP and not how to extinguish it. Because oxygen, or not, you'll get a severe burns in the matter of seconds. IL-2, IMO is way more forgiving in that part, i.e. it gives you much more time when the plane is burning, then you'd have IRL.

PS. BTW, that's what AI does in game, they may try to extinguish the flames somehow, when a wing or tail burns. But if fire gets too close to the cockpit, they just bail out.

[SaQSoN]

haha

I got a chuckle out of this too:

Charger :
Oleg, tell us more about the editor. And then looked to see, for Joy used and Kraft dropped I was searching for a great editor - not found

Oleg:
Guys, I have no strength ... Editor's there not be circumcised for the exhibition. Located in the Advanced> Full editor.
It is strange that they found none.
But it is clear ... The interface is completely different.

Actually they were talking about the following:

Charger :

Oleg, better tell us more about mission builder. ... I was looking for one, but couldn't find it.

Oleg:

... The FMB is there, it's not cut out for the fair. It's in the Extras->Full mission builder. I am surprised, you couldn't find one. But, I see... The interface is completely different.

PS. BTW, on the Sukhoi.ru you can find a handful of the FMB screenshots.

[NSU]

"PS. BTW, on the Sukhoi.ru you can find a handful of the FMB screenshots"

you mean this:

http://sukhoi.ru/forum/showthread.php?t=65108&page=21

can you check how big the channel map is, from england to france?

[SaQSoN]

can you check how big the channel map is, from england to france?

What do you mean? The map is 1:1 scale (unlike the WoP, for instance, where it is 1:3 or so). The area included, North to South is approx. 30-50 km N of London to approx 5-10 km S of Kaen.

[NSU]

What do you mean? The map is 1:1 scale (unlike the WoP, for instance, where it is 1:3 or so). The area included, North to South is approx. 30-50 km N of London to approx 5-10 km S of Kaen.

what i mean:
is Birmingham and Paris on the BoB map?

[SaQSoN]

what i mean:
is Birmingham and Paris on the BoB map?

As I already posted above - the south border of the map is just below Kaen, the north one - is less, then 50 km above London.

[NSU]

As I already posted above - the south border of the map is just below Kaen, the north one - is less, then 50 km above London.

ok, thx for you answer

[csThor]

That could be tricky for historical bomber campaigns. Most of them were based in France proper and that map dimensions could rule out a few units ('cause their bases would be off the map). I'm curious to see the actual dimensions ...

[150GCT_Veltro]

Ju-88 inside the cockpit is incredible, really great!

http://rutube.ru/tracks/3743507.html?v=b5208c31ef2d9c4bcabc000730696f75