Is anyone tense?

[CrazySchmidt]

With the pending release it seems there could be some tension within this forum, how say you all, are you tense or just hanging back waiting?

[Dano]

pending release? PLUUHHSE, yeah right this wont be out for months, the publisher that signed the contract with oleg already has several releases lined up for the holidays in similar Genre they cant release it now it will cannibalize sales, they have to wait till 25 Feb 2011

ive already called the publisher and discussed the situation with them, please stop trolling this forum and spreading rumors everyone here has been worked up into a state of delirium everyone is expecting it for Christmas.. well its going to be sacks of coal for everyone this Christmas

Who would that publisher be then?

[KOM.Nausicaa]

ive already called the publisher and discussed the situation with them, please stop trolling this forum

Huh? First, Crazyschmidt is one of the best known members of the IL2 community since years....far from being a troll, purewophcet. On the other hand, I have never heard from you before, and you seem clearly too new around here to know Crazyschmidt. That and your claim with a call "to the publisher" (who's that ?) seems to make you the troll, sorry bud.

[tama]

CrazySchmidt perhaps refers to the 4.10 patch. So relax :)

[Robert]

Tension? Naaaah. Seems purewophcet is providing comedy relief. So in answer to your question, Shmidtt, there's no stress or tension on my behalf.

[1.JaVA_Sharp]

I'm always a little tense on update day.

[Abbeville-Boy]

i'm so tense that i jump from 9 to 11 when counting :grin:

[CrazySchmidt]

Ok, when I say tense I mean a kind of excited tense, you know like a kid just before Christmas, not a negative or disgruntled kind of tense. All that aside, I'm more the hanging back guy at the moment just enjoying watching the updates each week and waiting with eager anticipation for each update knowing that we have some very exiting sh*t coming our way.

Cheers, CS. :)

[Robert]

In that case...... Friday's the best day of the week. I love updates. I get all tingly with anticipation. ;)

[easytarget3]

me too...:)

[=XIII=Shea]

pending release? PLUUHHSE, yeah right this wont be out for months, the publisher that signed the contract with oleg already has several releases lined up for the holidays in similar Genre they cant release it now it will cannibalize sales, they have to wait till 25 Feb 2011

ive already called the publisher and discussed the situation with them, please stop trolling this forum and spreading rumors everyone here has been worked up into a state of delirium everyone is expecting it for Christmas.. well its going to be sacks of coal for everyone this Christmas

Yea right you called the publisher,dont talk crap,who ever the publisher is,isnt gonna tell you anything:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[BadAim]

Friday is the whole point of the week, isn't it?

[GOA_Potenz]

I am the publisher, but i'm too lazy and still drunk

[HundertneunGustav]

Chilled.
They take their time, i need a new Mobo, GFX card and new DDR3 memory for SoW anyway.

More anxious for 4.10 , and what ever the UP dudes put ON TOP OF 4.10....

UP 3.0?:)

Oleg, TD and the Modders. Thriumvirate of Combat Flightsimming.:grin:

[major_setback]

Tense?????????!!!!

§%#&"![€$*$¤§¤!!!!!

[SEE]

Nope! Mind you, I have downloaded some excellent BOB campaigns which will take me months to complete and, 'bloody hell!', I need the practice in MK1 Spits anyway.....:grin:

[Madfish]

Tense for sure. Several reasons for that ;P

- I can't wait for the game.
- I don't know if I need a new computer (probably at least a new GPU or 2...)
- I don't know what publishers it will be released under (won't buy a DRM'ed to death version, sorry Oleg :/)
- and lastly because I really can't tell if it'll be that great with only BoB as the scenario, not even reaching far inland. But I guess they will upgrade / update rather fast once the sales forecast some numbers.

[K_Freddie]

I'm relaxed... Oleg can take his time
I have my cash ready for the 'upgrade'... :-P

[proton45]

I have been hang'in cool and loose for months and months now...

I find each and every up-date to be exciting and thought provoking...mostly (probably) because I'm hanging loose with the whole "SoW" deal. I don't even check out the Friday up-dates til afternoon...or sometimes even the evening.

BUT...I have to admit that some of the resent screen-captures have me drooling with anticipation. This weeks cockpit grabs look amazing !!!! They almost look too good to believe...in fact, a few years ago I would have been screaming "FAKE" !!!

[Madfish]

@Freddie
Is that why your sig is saying: "A new Freddie is coming soon..."? :p A new computer perhaps? ;)

But yeah, overall the last years I've been haning in there as well. But I found my old "Chuck Yeagers Advanced Flight Trainer" a few weeks ago and it made me want to fly sims again. IL-2 is neat but compared to what Birds of Prey delivers it's just way behind, technically. Mods can help a tiny bit but especially vegetation, weather effects etc. just can't be compensated for. :p

[SEE]

@Freddie
.....IL-2 is neat but compared to what Birds of Prey delivers it's just way behind, technically..........

You gotta be kidding! :evil:

[Bearcat]

With the pending release it seems there could be some tension within this forum, how say you all, are you tense or just hanging back waiting?

As far as SoW goes.. I am a Vulcan till I get it in my hands..

[Splitter]

I have been waiting for George RR Martin's next book for five years. The author said it was almost finished at the time the last book was released.

I waited more than 10 years for Team Fortress II to be released.

I can do this SoW thing standing on my head.

Splitter

[CrazySchmidt]

I have been waiting for George RR Martin's next book for five years. The author said it was almost finished at the time the last book was released.

I waited more than 10 years for Team Fortress II to be released.

I can do this SoW thing standing on my head.

Splitter

LOL! A man of patience indeed.

Personally, I'm not too worried at all about how long it takes for Oleg and crew to deliver the final cut to us all, I can be very patient when I have the impression I am waiting for something of quality and I have a very good feeling we're in for something very special from what I am seeing from the updates so far.

I do get the feeling however, a lot will depend on how much power you have under the hood with this baby. I do intend to purchase new hardware to get the most from this new release, but I won't be making any purchases until I have had some time with it installed and well tested first.

I've gotta say those new cockpits are looking just absolutely stunning, I just know I'm going to get shot down with the distraction of taking in all the eye candy...

Cheers, CS. :)

[Oleg Maddox]

@Freddie
IL-2 is neat but compared to what Birds of Prey delivers it's just way behind, technically. Mods can help a tiny bit but especially vegetation, weather effects etc. just can't be compensated for. :p

1. Birds of Prey based on IL-2 code given them by license from our side.
2. In terms of non precise 3D graphics it is'nt better than Il-2. More smooth lines and greater size textures that are not done with the reference to blueprints can't make planes and cockpits better than original - taken from Il-2. And on some planes therr is used one the same cockpit for all types of aircraft in a series.
3. In temrs of photorealistic colors it is also not even close to Il-2.
4. From Il-2 there is taken a lot of coding thinds, but if to speak to FM, DM etc, - it is done simplified comparing to Il-2. It is done especially for other then Il-2 auditory of users... for these that play mostly arcadeish games. Its not bad, because such users are the most in the world.
5. There will be never so many things modelled in Il-2 by original team and third party. Il-2 now is game encyclopedy which isn't possible to repeat in years.


In overal BoP - it is other target group on the market.

What is really better in BoP comparing to Il-2 series:

1. Better looking cities from altitude
2. Selfshading that isn't present in Il-2 (moving shadows in cockpits, etc)
3. Some visual effects, like smoke or fire (however are not realistic from the physics point of view)


Compare now Il-2 series and BoP the main difference is target group of users:

Il-2 for the great amount of users from beginners and real pilots that want a sim.
BoP more oriented for the arcade players, not the sims. Or for the players that thinking they are playing the game called sim.


I hope BoB will be for all these above. :)

Arcade style of games are also interesting...just becasue they bring some time more money...

[CrazySchmidt]

What is really better in BoP comparing to Il-2 series:

1. Better looking cities from altitude
2. Selfshading that isn't present in Il-2 (moving shadows in cockpits, etc)
3. Some visual effects, like smoke or fire (however are not realistic from the physics point of view)


Agreed, and it's not enough to make the difference!!

I bought BoP expecting something new and exciting but found within a week or so that the more attractive cities and more pronounced higher definition renderings, do make a better game. BoP maybe a more attractive game on the surface, but trust me is not the better game experience by quite a margin.

I guess it's the age old lesson here guys, you can't always judge a book by it's cover...

Cheers, CS :)

[Madfish]

You gotta be kidding! :evil:
Hell no I'm not!

Just watch this and tell me if you know of any mod that can replicate this awesomeness in IL-2.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Zocgs2VjXY8
Huge amount of vegitation, terrain elevation with fitting, relatively crisp, textures. On top of that this amazing shading and weather effects, sounds, great city / object detail etc.
Maybe I'm wrong and there are mods out there that can do the same in IL-2 but I didn't find them yet and in fact modding can be a pain in the butt as I've experienced.

@Oleg
I agree with you on all the points. To be honest I never played BoP because of them.
The worst thing really was the coloring. And the cover image! With 3 or 4 spits ganging up on that poor little Ju 87! :grin:

However, I still love things like foliage, shading etc. They really make a BIG difference. That's some of the stuff I'm really looking forward to in SoW:BoB and that can probably not simply get added as a mod to the IL-2 1946 edition.
Weather and athmosphere make a game "athmospheric". Pun intended. Also all that ground detail is very amazing and makes the game immersive. For example all those little villages etc. - they look as if they'd belong there and it kind of makes the fighting more intense.

I'd always prefer IL-2 over IL-2 WoP and BoP. But personally I think that even mods can't keep up with the engine development at the core anymore. So I'm looking forward to the new game and in fact IL-2 has an honorable age anyways. If the fanbase embraces the new title with the same enthusiasm I'm sure it will be awesome.

[322Sqn_Dusty]

Great! Indeed Il2 has grown to a size with planes seldom seen.

But tense? No way..i'm not tense..... Achiel!!! where are my pillsssss!!!!!!

[Ltbear]

well, waiting is apart of life, you wait for many things. Just dont let the wait become part of the waiting so you are waiting more on the wait than the wait it self.....this dosent make sence i know but that is how i wait.....


:)

Eve online is my wating place :) i can wait....

[The Kraken]

Just watch this and tell me if you know of any mod that can replicate this awesomeness in IL-2.

I had a hard time recognizing anything in the first half of that video. The HDR effects which make the sky white and the cockpit black are hideous. And the overcast cloud layer is a mess - couldn't even figure out if it's above or below the plane from the looks alone. Add to that the strange mecury rain and you have a good example about how not to create immersive effects.

At least the second part showed some better scenes; the forests arestunning and the ground textures are simply very well done (even after being filtered to oblivion and back). Although I'm still feeling that the maps aren't to scale; seems the landscape moves too slowly. Hard to say though without playing it myself, which I care even less about after this video.

[Splitter]

I had a hard time recognizing anything in the first half of that video. The HDR effects which make the sky white and the cockpit black are hideous. And the overcast cloud layer is a mess - couldn't even figure out if it's above or below the plane from the looks alone. Add to that the strange mecury rain and you have a good example about how not to create immersive effects.

At least the second part showed some better scenes; the forests arestunning and the ground textures are simply very well done (even after being filtered to oblivion and back). Although I'm still feeling that the maps aren't to scale; seems the landscape moves too slowly. Hard to say though without playing it myself, which I care even less about after this video.

I would second that. Two words came to my mind watching the video; DARK and overdone.

I've never been in a plane on an overcast day where I couldn't see the instrument panel because of shadows. It looked more like the video was taken at night with a full moon and no instrument lighting.

The forests were nice though.

Splitter

[philip.ed]

I'm tenser than a choir boys bum.

[Madfish]

I would second that. Two words came to my mind watching the video; DARK and overdone.

I've never been in a plane on an overcast day where I couldn't see the instrument panel because of shadows. It looked more like the video was taken at night with a full moon and no instrument lighting.

The forests were nice though.

Splitter

I agree with you, in fact I dislike HDR myself. I also dislike the coloring but it doesn't change anything about the superiority of the core engine advances.
There are mods/settings for IL-2 that do something similar actually (gamma tools anyone) by the way. And while it can improve some parts, it makes others worse. HDR can be very nice but it takes to long to adapt to new perspectives and it's usually flawed.

However, the "white" thing is something that makes me wonder. I mean flying planes without any feedback, ultra precise controls etc. is one thing - but looking into the sun without getting blinded by it? That's really overdone indeed.
If we get a good weather system we should at least also get blinded by sunlight. I don't know about you but I haven't met many people that are not getting blind(ed) when they look into the sun.
And usually, when you looked at something bright, the surroundings WILL appear very dark. HDR is still a little overdone in BoP, true. But it's still a realistic approach that just needs to be refined and turned into something more simulation like I believe. ;)