From the Cockpit over Kent Thames Estuary

[KG26_Alpha]

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[furbs]

nice pics Alpha...quite dark colours ;)

[BadAim]

Yeah, the real world's color palette is definitely porked. We should have Oleg look into it. :)

BTW, Nice photos Alpha, thanks for sharing. (I'm terribly jealous)

[Dano]

Is the terrain mesh working correctly? Looks awfully flat?

[mazex]

Very few fields in England nowadays with a shade of purple then...

[furbs]

or violet :)

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By furbs9999 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/furbs9999) at 2010-10-20

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By furbs9999 (http://profile.imageshack.us/user/furbs9999) at 2010-10-20

For me the WOP shot is closer in colours to the real pic.

[swiss]

For me the WOP shot is closer in colours to the real pic.

Compare altitude.

[philip.ed]

Nice shots.
Apha, are these recent shots? They are great, but if they were taken recently they'd be a far-cry from how this scenary would have looked in the summertime.

You mention violet fields, well in paddock-wood in kent there is a field that is literally purple. I think it is lavender, but I can't be sure. Not sure if it would have been like that in 1940...

[ATAG_Dutch]

Nice shots.
Apha, are these recent shots? They are great, but if they were taken recently they'd be a far-cry from how this scenary would have looked in the summertime.

You mention violet fields, well in paddock-wood in kent there is a field that is literally purple. I think it is lavender, but I can't be sure. Not sure if it would have been like that in 1940...

Well I'm fully expecting a barrage of abuse for this, but I presumed the lilacish grey fields to be dry ploughed earth.
I've always thought it looked a bit purplish in bright sunlight.
It may be more pronounced from altitude.
yours expectantly..........:grin:

[philip.ed]

Really? Yes...I can see the abuse coming. I'll fetch you an umbrella ;)

The Lilac field that I am talking about really is lilac. It's so in your face that you'd fail to notice it if glancing at the scenary. However, fields like this aren't around in high numbers, and in the SoW shot there appears to be a few lilac fields....

I really can't judge though. I mean, the SoW shot shows textures that to me look like a saturated spring day. But that's just my opinion.

[ATAG_Dutch]

Really? Yes...I can see the abuse coming. I'll fetch you an umbrella ;)

The Lilac field that I am talking about really is lilac. It's so in your face that you'd fail to notice it if glancing at the scenary. However, fields like this aren't around in high numbers, and in the SoW shot there appears to be a few lilac fields....

I really can't judge though. I mean, the SoW shot shows textures that to me look like a saturated spring day. But that's just my opinion.

Well, let's see, we don't actually know what stage of the war the sim will begin at.
Maybe we'll start with Hurris in France in the winter of 39-40, moving through to Dunkirk in May, the channel in June, and mayhem in July-Sept, with fog, frost and drizzle in October.....
I hope so. I'd miss having a bit of snow around.

[philip.ed]

Good point. I hope you're correct, although I have this inner voice telling me that Oleg has already stated they will only be starting with the BoB (the RAF BoB-timeline: 10_July-31_October)

[Zappatime]

Didnt someone say they grew fields of Flax (linseed oil plants) during the war years which have this lilac colour?

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[AndyJWest]

Ah! Flax!
Googling 'flax field image' will result in hundreds of similar pictures. I'd say that Oleg has got the colur about right, though how much flax was grown in SE England during the BoB period I've no idea. Does anyone have a contact in the Ministry of Agriculture?

[WTE_Galway]

Ah! Flax!
Googling 'flax field image' will result in hundreds of similar pictures. I'd say that Oleg has got the colur about right, though how much flax was grown in SE England during the BoB period I've no idea. Does anyone have a contact in the Ministry of Agriculture?




http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=EP19430925.2.41

Flax production increased from 400 acres in 1939 to 53000 acres in 1943.

Summer 1940 ?? who knows ??

[major_setback]

Linseed oil (made from flax seeds) was used to make wood paint, and was used for oiling/preserving wood.

It seems there was a demand for it in 1940:
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=EP19400219.2.121.7



It was used for oiling rifles too:
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?12613-The-truth-about-Linseed-Oil-%28The-raw-facts%29




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[swiss]

Linseed oil (made from flax seeds) was used to make wood paint, and was used for oiling/preserving wood.

It seems there was a demand for it in 1940:
http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz/cgi-bin/paperspast?a=d&d=EP19400219.2.121.7



It was used for oiling rifles too:
http://forums.gunboards.com/showthread.php?12613-The-truth-about-Linseed-Oil-%28The-raw-facts%29

and for (window) putty. If your near an old window - you can still smell it. ;)


(Nowadays it's a wonderful threadlock for bicycle spokes)

[julian265]

Continuing what Oleg mentioned a week or two ago, there appears to be an assumption that the white balance used in the OP's photos is good...

Can this assumption be turned into a known fact?

Secondly, there appears to be some light smog in the photos, without anything similar to compare to in the SoW BoB shots.

[Oleg Maddox]

Yeah, the real world's color palette is definitely porked. We should have Oleg look into it. :)

BTW, Nice photos Alpha, thanks for sharing. (I'm terribly jealous)

You better look for time of day these shots are done.
Then then look for the color of wing, espcially in shadow, if you think it is right.

Then try to learn what is distortion of colors and what is distortion of contrast in each channel of RGB with its result.

Also, interesting how is possible in principle to compare 12:00 on the screen shot with the everning shots on photos (again also with distorted colors) and even when said that there are not final colors and the shot just show the shrapness of the ground from altitude.

[kendo65]

amen.....but don't expect it'll make much difference

[ATAG_Dutch]

and for (window) putty. If your near an old window - you can still smell it. ;)


(Nowadays it's a wonderful threadlock for bicycle spokes)

No, no, no, its major use in England is for oiling your cricket bat.:)

[philip.ed]

You better look for time of day these shots are done.
Then then look for the color of wing, espcially in shadow, if you think it is right.

Then try to learn what is distortion of colors and what is distortion of contrast in each channel of RGB with its result.

Also, interesting how is possible in principle to compare 12:00 on the screen shot with the everning shots on photos (again also with distorted colors) and even when said that there are not final colors and the shot just show the shrapness of the ground from altitude.

But Oleg, surely the distortion is not that bad? I mean, from the SoW shots you have posted, to me the colours look a lot different from the colours I would see in summer. In this sense, even distorted summer-shots look more realistic to me than the ones shown for SoW. I
I know you said the colours will be tuned, but I'm wondering whether the whole palette will be changed?

[KG26_Alpha]

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Hi

I really didn't intend to start a how scenery should look thread.

I'm sure Oleg and 1C Team know what they are doing when it comes to how things should look :)

Just for fun though I played with the WoP screen shot a little and warmed it up.

And I hope I don't offend Oleg but I toned down the "pastel" look in the SoW shot.

Im pretty sure though that we will in SOW have something completely different :)


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