The name, "Storm of War" is already taken?

[Feathered_IV]

Was browsing the bookstand while waiting at the airport earlier today when I saw this new book for sale:

http://www.andrew-roberts.net/assets/images/book_covers/storm_war.jpg

http://www.andrew-roberts.net/pages/books/the_storm_of_war.asp

I must admit I always thought the title to be rather artless and rather hoped it would get changed before release. I never expected to see it snatched up by someone else. I wonder if Oleg is aware of this and if he or this Roberts fellow have tried to copyright it. Last thing I'd want to see is Oleg caught in some legal wrangle beacause the name was already taken.

[PeterPanPan]

Interesting, thanks for posting. I'm am going by air on Wednesday, so I'll check this out too at the airport bookshop!

Yes, I've also wondered if BoB SoW might perhaps be a working title ... but then again Ubisoft have nabbed www.stormofwar.com.

PPanPan

[=69.GIAP=TOOZ]

I've seen at least one other book with Storm of War in the title, but I forget what war it was about. It was three or more years ago I think I saw it in a Waterstone's.

[major_setback]

I've seen at least one other book with Storm of War in the title, but I forget what war it was about. It was three or more years ago I think I saw it in a Waterstone's.

I saw this title a few months ago too.

Worm of Store is better.
:-)

Actually some else's suggestion of OMG = Oleg Maddox Games (posted in one of the update threads) is the perfect resolve. It allows for non-combat add-ons too.

[philip.ed]

Although, how many books have Battle of Britain in the title? Surely if the phrase is extended, it is of little consequence? I thought SoW was just a placeholder and subject to change...
although having said that, I have always really like the name. It has a great ring to it.
Or, is SoW a general title for the sim's franchise? If so, I can see why there may be trouble, but then again hasn't Oleg already marketed the SoW name?

[nearmiss]

It doesn't take much to work around SOW...IL2 SOW,etc.

I suspect Oleg will prominently display IL2, because it is so well regarded.

It would not make sense for him not to play up the IL2 a great deal.

Also, Oleg was mentioning SOW about 5 years ago. So, it could be any conflict could require the other party to drop the SOW.

[philip.ed]

How long has it been since Oleg mentioned the name SoW? I'm just asking out of curiosity. I'll try a search of his posts and see ;)

Just noticed this comment in his posts: Don't worry. It is already better here in every detail.
He wrote this when a question was posed about the graphical capabilities of SoW vs Il-2.

Quick note: i've searched, quickly, but can't find anything...interesting. I haven't searched for long though, so there's every chance I'm wrong.

[winny]

The book is THE storm of war.. In copyright terms the 'THE' is important. I would be very suprised if SoW hadn't been registered very early on in the process, it could explain why the book has THE in the title maybe the author wanted to call it SoW but someone said no because it's already registered..? 'The storm of war' feels a bit clunky to me.

[philip.ed]

Good point Winny.
Although in this context, I think 'the' has it's place in the novel's title. It would sound chunky for the game, but for the title of the book I think it works ;)

[The Kraken]

I really don't think it's a big deal...

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[swiss]

Anyone spot am R or TM?

No?


See. That's what OM should take care of, however it's not gonna work in all countries, since Storm of War is rather a description or defintion than a name.
Swiss law for instance is most likely not going to accept it(if there was a lawsuit).

We tried this with "Powerbike", they told us to FO as it's a definition, we only could get the "C" protection for the logo.

[SlipBall]

Oleg talked about having a different name about a year ago. Some name that would appeal to the MS crowd I believe he said...a politically correct name :grin:

[BadAim]

So far as I know the title of a book is not relevant to the title of a video game, as the two are not competition for one another. (not that SOW will have any real competition)

[Feathered_IV]

Stranger things have happened. A Grumman F6F by Oleg Maddox is hardly a match for a real Hellcat, but look how that turned out.

[Xilon_x]

BECAUSE not chance and CALL---------------WINDS OF WAR.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GwBb3fgLhg

[Igo kyu]

BECAUSE not chance and CALL---------------WINDS OF WAR.
What, ifart PC? ;) :grin:

[philip.ed]

Winds of War...a bit kiddyish, isn't it?

[peterwoods@supanet.com]

Subject book was first published in 2009. It's an excellent read I highly recommend it to all users of this forum.
The title is taken from a Winston Churchill speech, an extract from which is printed on the flyleaf of the book.

I have, myself, full confidence that if all do their duty, if nothing is neglected, and if the best arrrangements are made, as they are being made, we shall prove ourselves once again able to defend our Island home, to ride out the storm of war, and to outlive the menace of tyranny, if necessary for years, if necessary alone.
Winston Churchill, House of Commons, 4 June 1940

It was a part of his famous "We shall fight them on the beaches.. " speech, delivered on the day that the Dunkirk evacuation, (Operation Dynamo) was ended.

One may reasonably presume that Oleg has based the title of this series on the same source as Andrew Roberts i.e. that speech and, since he has been using it widely and publicly long before the copyright date of the book, has a pre-eminent claim to it.

No worries!

[philip.ed]

Whatever the name, I will still buy it! :D

[WTE_Galway]

Do not forget about this:

:D :D :D


http://www.miniclip.com/games/skies-of-war/en/

[ATAG_Dutch]

Whatever the name, I will still buy it! :D

Sorry Chaps, had to pipe up here. ''to ride out the Storm of War, whatever the cost.. may be...' is a Churchill quote from 1940, and I would imagine free from copyright issues.
Don't they call it 'public domain'?

[major_setback]

I saw this title a few months ago too.

Worm of Store is better.
:-)

Actually some else's suggestion of OMG = Oleg Maddox Games (posted in one of the update threads) is the perfect resolve. It allows for non-combat add-ons too.


OMFG - Oleg Maddox Flying Games is what I should have written.

:-)

...or MADAS - Maddox Air Simulations. :-)

...but why not simply 'Maddox' - Maddox Battle of Britain, it works fine for me.

If it's going to eventually (and hopefully) encompass tank/vehicle, train and private plane add-ons it needs really to drop the 'air' and 'war' label.

[swiss]

...or MADAS - Maddox Air Simulations. :-)

.

you have to add " - systems" at the end. :grin: