Bug found with SOW:BoB Hurricane cockpit

[jocko417]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/jocko417/shot_20100810_103528.jpg


Undercarriage indicator should look like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/jocko417/Untitled-1.jpg

Note: not all are the same but I would expect the instrument face to say 12 VOLT, not WAIT.

[speculum jockey]

A quick run through the first few pages of google image search seems to indicate that he is right. Here's another example that seems to prove it.

http://i56.tinypic.com/2vvoysn.jpg

[zapatista]

from what i can see oleg's version says "WAIT" not WATT, one possible speculation is that maybe an earlier/later version of the same dial has a warning/reminder about the delay in moving gear up and down after activating the control ?

hopefully some experten here will have more factual knowledge on this

either way, i'd call that a very minor decorative issue, but well spotted :)

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Actually I think it's a double mistake. "WATT" is wrong, and it's wrongly written too, as "WAIT". It should be "VOLT".

[Skoshi Tiger]

There seems to be a bit of variation in dials used.

This is another undicarrage indicator that is advertised as an "original" Hurricane undercarrage indicator.

http://www.spitfirespares.com/SpitfireSpares.com/Website%20products%20167/UC.jpg

http://www.spitfirespares.com/SpitfireSpares.com/Pages/instruments2.html

You will notice that the arc at the top of the dial is not broken in the instrument modeled in the Hurricane, this would indicate to me that the indicator is of a different version to both types shown.

Cheers!

[Flying Pencil]

Could be another variant, but what it also glaringly obvious is lack of lamp illumination.

I think it very unlikely, at the moment of engaging the 111, the pilot decides to drop his gear.
The RED indicator should be glowing even slightly.

I think it is simply not working when this image was taken.

[jocko417]

Yes, as I said there were different varieties used, the one Skoshi posted appears to be a later version, but still in the style used by Hawker. I've seen similar ones with an extra light for the tail wheel as installed in later Hawker products like the Typhoon, Tempest, and Sea Fury.

My intent was not to say the instrument itself was wrong, just the label - I've never seen one marked "WAIT" so I assumed it was a typo. Any examples I've seen of the early indicator as used on the Mk.I Hurricane should say "12 VOLTS" at the bottom.

[Qpassa]

It should be corrected :)

[JtD]

None of the images posted so far resembles the indicator as shown in the Hurricane Mk.I pilot notes. The resolution of the cockpit photos is not good enough to say what the lines should say, but there's definitely just one line of text at the bottom.

[Dano]

Ignore...

[Dano]

Ah, ignore me.... lol.

[Skoshi Tiger]

Ah, ignore me.... lol.

If you insist!


Now we've got that out of the way ;), I think that it's a bit harsh calling this a bug at the moment.

From the write up in the link of the instrument I posted it came from an early version without a retracting tail wheel.

It's quite possible that the developers have a equally as valid version of the undercarrage indicators modeled. There were many contractors creating various components throughout Britain during the early part of the war. There will be some variation as we have seen.

We also need to remember that alot of the tired old Hurricanes were exported to Russia during the war. Maybe their design was based on one present in one of the lend lease Hurricanes? Who Knows!

Anyway would this indicator stop me from flying and enjoying SOW when it is released? No I don't think so! If it is a problem then there will be plenty of time to fix it up in patches after release.

Cheers!

[Oleg Maddox]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/jocko417/shot_20100810_103528.jpg


Undercarriage indicator should look like this:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v621/jocko417/Untitled-1.jpg

Note: not all are the same but I would expect the instrument face to say 12 VOLT, not WAIT.

It is corrected earlier, but not inserted yet. In release will be "12 volt".
Simply originally used photos from Soviet archive where this sign was more damagaed than readable.
Don't worry.
Cockpit of hurry still is polishing. There is several details that became know better just couple of month ago. Should be ready on this week or so.

PS. I simply can't check each aircraft cockpit. I know very well just couple of aircraft cockpits.
12 Volt measn that this gaige working voltage is 12 V. On most indicators such info present from the back side, not on the front. My guys simeply wasn't able to identify what is half damaged on the gauge... :)

[Foo'bar]

Thank you for replying, Oleg!

[T}{OR]

Thank you for replying, Oleg!

+1 :)

[KOM.Nausicaa]

Thanks for replying Oleg. Great to see communication immediately works when the critic is polite and well backed up with documentation.

[HanneG]

Thanks for thanking Oleg, guys.

[jocko417]

Thanks Oleg! :) I can't imagine the amount of time and effort that's gone into this sim already, thanks for putting up with us nit-pickers! ;)

[Letum]

I am surprised you are concerned with such detail.
Thanks Oleg!

[Flying Pencil]

Oleg made a successful saving throw!

(if anyone remembers D&D saying, not that I played it. ;) )

[Bloblast]

Thanks buddy

[DuxCorvan]

Maybe "WAIT" was also a subtle hint aimed at spotting fans... ;-)

[LukeFF]

Now this is the way constructive criticism is supposed to work. :)

[trashcanman]

W = will be
A = available
I = in
T = two weeks

:grin:


I'll get my coat .....

[Triggaaar]

I'll get my coat .....You do that binman :)


And thanks Oleg, for putting up with everyone

[Snuff_Pidgeon]

I will wait, thanks Oleg.