View Full Version : "Bloody Foreigners" - great film about Polish pilots during BOB
Kwiatek
09-18-2010, 12:25 PM
It is great story about Polish pilots who fought in RAF during BOB time and whole WW2. They fought for freedom althought most of them did not live to see her. Great but sad story.
S!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzEkL5n7gXA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LJpI-1GzuME&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7pmC7Geisk0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W83KvuUm5As&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5yHY8KJAijI&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5b2W5Y2I0Fs&feature=related
Rodolphe
09-18-2010, 01:11 PM
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Thanks Kwiatek, very emotional documentary.
Love the Tea & Biscuits scene with Ludwik Paszkiewicz, finishing with that "Well Done". :grin:
Suddenly the air was full of burning aircraft , parachutes and pieces of disintegrated wings.
It was rapid, it was staggering.
My God ! They are doing it !
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TYCZYW01
09-18-2010, 01:47 PM
Great movie, greetings from Poland:)
Xilon_x
09-18-2010, 03:02 PM
the english pilots % what is?
POLAND %
HUGARIAN%
ENGLISH%
for poland and hugarian pilots the difficolty is learn english lenguagge.
zapatista
09-18-2010, 04:03 PM
good story of polish fighters heroism against overwhelming odds, and well told
thx for posting it :)
zakkandrachoff
09-18-2010, 05:02 PM
and what about Argentine Pilots on the RAF ?
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae188/zakkandrachoff/argentine-pilots-RAF.jpg
bf-110
09-18-2010, 11:52 PM
Didn´t knew you particpated on the war...But we had Pierre Clostermann.
Also,there´s a good movie too about czechs on RAF,Dark Blue World.
Wanted to know how was the slovakin presence on Luftwaffe.
Flying Pencil
09-19-2010, 04:01 AM
Didn´t knew you particpated on the war...But we had Pierre Clostermann.
Also,there´s a good movie too about czechs on RAF,Dark Blue World.
Wanted to know how was the slovakin presence on Luftwaffe.
Yes, "Dark Blue World", excellent movie.
Also look at "A Piece of Cake", 6 part series based by Derek Robinson book. In latter half a American chap joins the crowd, and then toward the end was a little "misunderstand" with some Polish chaps.
Not strictly about the invited pilots, but more of a big picture story, and a bit depressing because it does not pull the punches.
BLR_Tonin_fr
09-19-2010, 08:32 AM
Many thanks !
Yes It reminds me "DARK BLUE WORLD" movie too !
Xilon_x
09-19-2010, 10:33 AM
yes sorry my error
RAF pilot not original english pilots
but mix pilots.
POLAND
CZECHS
FRANCE
and also argentina i not have this information.mmmm very strange.
ENGLISH
what is total pilots % ?
Eglish pilots are 30%?
Barnowl
09-19-2010, 11:11 AM
there are 2,946 pilots credited with flying in the Battle of Britain, of these 574 were not British. That is 19.5%. Poland had the most at 145, New Zealand next with 135 followed by Canada with 112.
Rodolphe
09-19-2010, 01:02 PM
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The nationalities of Fighter Command
A substantial contingent of more than 500 pilots from countries other the United Kingdom flew with their British counterparts in the Battle of Britain.
The international mix of participants - defined by their flying at least one authorized operational sortie with an eligible unit between 10 July and 31 October 1940 - is as follows.
Great Britain 2353
Poland 139
New Zealand 98
Canada 86
Czechoslovakia 84
Belgium 29
Australia 21
South Africa 20
France 13
Ireland 10
United States 7
Jamaica 2
Egypt 1
Austria 1
Iceland 1
Palestine Mandate 1
Southern Rhodesia 1
Unknown 4
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ATAG_Dutch
09-19-2010, 04:27 PM
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The nationalities of Fighter Command
Unknown 4
[/LIST]
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I was unaware of any Argentinian involvement, could these be the unknown 4?
WTE_Galway
09-20-2010, 11:32 AM
there are 2,946 pilots credited with flying in the Battle of Britain, of these 574 were not British. That is 19.5%. Poland had the most at 145, New Zealand next with 135 followed by Canada with 112.
Its not just the pilots that were non British.
Remember that Air Vice Marshal Keith Park was from the Colonies ... a New Zealander.
zakkandrachoff
09-20-2010, 03:01 PM
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The nationalities of Fighter Command
A substantial contingent of more than 500 pilots from countries other the United Kingdom flew with their British counterparts in the Battle of Britain.
The international mix of participants - defined by their flying at least one authorized operational sortie with an eligible unit between 10 July and 31 October 1940 - is as follows.
Great Britain 2353
Poland 139
New Zealand 98
Canada 86
Czechoslovakia 84
Belgium 29
Australia 21
South Africa 20
France 13
Ireland 10
United States 7
Jamaica 2
Egypt 1
Austria 1
Iceland 1
Palestine Mandate 1
Southern Rhodesia 1
Unknown 4
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mmm, don't you miss some argentine pilots?
i am not a supernationalist but only put some data. I dont know the numbers of Arg pilots
Some of the pilots were native Argentines, while the surnames of others reveal they were descended from British professionals who had helped develop the country's railways, mines and farms.
Ricardo Moreno, 89, said: "The Argentines had the advantage that they were very sports-minded. They were good. They did very well in Britain because they were used to roughing it."
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_0bb2hoSLX-0/Shvuv-Cu_2I/AAAAAAAAAM8/rD3kwhb3V9s/s1600/Pampero%2BI.jpg
164 Strike.The Argentine Flying Officer Ronald Sheward (RAFVR) flying his Hurricane IV FJ-B (KX540) of the 164 Argentine Squadron of the RAF, strike over the Hansweert Channel (The Netherlands) on September 2, 1942.
http://www.aviationart.com.ar/galerias/militar/Hurri%20Sheward%20L_R.jpg
airmalik
09-21-2010, 01:28 AM
I found out only recently that there were a few Indian pilots in the RAF as well.
http://www.bharat-rakshak.com/IAF/History/1940s/PilotsRAF.html
Few people realise that a number of Indian pilots took part in operations from England. At the height of the Battle of Britain, 24 Indian pilots were sent to the UK to under go conversion training and participate in Ops. Even though they could take part only after the Battle of Britain, many of them distinguished themselves flying operations with the various commands.
Battle of Britain's last surviving Indian Pilot:
http://news.bbc.co.uk/local/kent/hi/front_page/newsid_8872000/8872500.stm
KnightFandragon
09-21-2010, 06:23 PM
Dang, I usually laugh at the 303 squadron when I see it in the line up in IL2, after seeing that vid there, they are some bad asses =D Nice
EvilMonkee
09-22-2010, 12:10 AM
You have to be careful over what is defined as the Battle. Yes, there were Argentine Sqn in the RAF (their Sqn number escapes me) but they did not take part in the BoB and fought from around 1942 onwards.
Flanker35M
09-23-2010, 07:16 AM
S!
Interesting video. Could have gone a bit deeper into things, but even as it is now gave nicely information propably not known to many. Saddest thing was to see how Poland was shafted so many times, by both Allies and enemy. First was the promise from England that they will help if Germany invades. Well, Russia did too and England could not do a thing.
Next thing you know is that both KZ-Adolf and Gulag-Josif are molesting Poland to their hearts content and many pilots get thru Europe to fly with RAF so they can help their homeland after war. So far so good. At Yalta conference Allies agree that Europe should be liberated but left to grow in democracy, that no troops should be left there permanently. Gulag-Josif nods his head with fingers crossed behind his back and shafts Poland again 1944 at Warszaw uprising, when promising to help Polish against Germans. Well, they watched the show across the river and then "liberated" Poland and put it under a communist puppet regime without an intention to leave Poland or rest of the "liberated" East-Europe at end of WW2.
End of WW2..where can the Polish pilots go? Brits do not want/need them anymore or acknowledge them so they won't upset Gulag-Josif. At their homeland they have no future and many end up dead if returning or as outsiders or have to flee abroad. So truly what the Polish pilot said: We have lost the war. Extremely sarcastic writing but based on historical facts.
Splitter
09-23-2010, 01:49 PM
True post!
S!
Interesting video. Could have gone a bit deeper into things, but even as it is now gave nicely information propably not known to many. Saddest thing was to see how Poland was shafted so many times, by both Allies and enemy. First was the promise from England that they will help if Germany invades. Well, Russia did too and England could not do a thing.
Next thing you know is that both KZ-Adolf and Gulag-Josif are molesting Poland to their hearts content and many pilots get thru Europe to fly with RAF so they can help their homeland after war. So far so good. At Yalta conference Allies agree that Europe should be liberated but left to grow in democracy, that no troops should be left there permanently. Gulag-Josif nods his head with fingers crossed behind his back and shafts Poland again 1944 at Warszaw uprising, when promising to help Polish against Germans. Well, they watched the show across the river and then "liberated" Poland and put it under a communist puppet regime without an intention to leave Poland or rest of the "liberated" East-Europe at end of WW2.
End of WW2..where can the Polish pilots go? Brits do not want/need them anymore or acknowledge them so they won't upset Gulag-Josif. At their homeland they have no future and many end up dead if returning or as outsiders or have to flee abroad. So truly what the Polish pilot said: We have lost the war. Extremely sarcastic writing but based on historical facts.
Kwiatek
09-23-2010, 03:46 PM
Sad story, great heros but history were not merciful to them. So Salute for their memory!
Here is something for cheer up :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJKC6DQnBzc&NR=1
Look at some Spits in video they have 303 Squadron sing - " RF "
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