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bhunter2112
06-24-2010, 09:38 PM
Now that IL2 is getting old and SOW will push it aside (yes..you will have the diehards)

what WW2 plane did you really want to see that never made it to the game?

No including Mods...I play the official game.

I wanted the HE 177 Greif
Igo kyu
06-24-2010, 10:13 PM
I like fighters, so maybe the Sunderland as that was expected to fight bombers off convoys out of range of land based fighters.

Or the Swordfish.
IceFire
06-24-2010, 10:17 PM
I REALLY wish there was a Typhoon. Yes we have the Tempest but that is a bit of a different beast nonetheless.
bf-110
06-24-2010, 11:32 PM
Uh,well...Can´t say,I´m still in good old IL2.And I rather want that all new planes go to it and then SoW...
I miss RAF bombers.
Chivas
06-25-2010, 02:35 AM
I would imagine that when all is said in done the SOW series will have more aircraft than the IL-2 series. I can also see the SOW series having a longer life than IL-2. SOW modders will be given better tools to develop new aircraft. Even developers who make aircraft for FSX etc could start providing aircraft to the SOW series. Of course the SOW developers will have quality restrictions especially for on-line play.
zauii
06-25-2010, 03:33 AM
I would imagine that when all is said in done the SOW series will have more aircraft than the IL-2 series. I can also see the SOW series having a longer life than IL-2. SOW modders will be given better tools to develop new aircraft. Even developers who make aircraft for FSX etc could start providing aircraft to the SOW series. Of course the SOW developers will have quality restrictions especially for on-line play.

True but there is a long road to go until SoW gets anywhere near the capacity of IL2, and besides the details and work that go into SoW is just so much more than IL2 that everything will take longer.
IceFire
06-25-2010, 04:21 AM
True but there is a long road to go until SoW gets anywhere near the capacity of IL2, and besides the details and work that go into SoW is just so much more than IL2 that everything will take longer.

This is true. On the other hand IL-2 now has detailed cockpits that were in most cases meticulously researched which means that some of the problems from 10 years ago of not having the resources are "solved".
K_Freddie
06-25-2010, 07:59 PM
Well, SOW has the potential to develop into a full blown WW2 sim (rubs hands gleefully), with all aspects of aerial warefare.

Hopefully Oleg has made allowances for core engine upgrades.. ;)
bf-110
06-25-2010, 10:34 PM
IDK,do you think SoW can grow and get as big as IL2?
It will still not have Pacific...
Skoshi Tiger
06-26-2010, 12:54 AM
IDK,do you think SoW can grow and get as big as IL2?
It will still not have Pacific...

For a pacific theatre we just need maps, planes and palm trees. By the time the African add-ons are produced we'll have the palm trees so that only leaves the maps and planes.

If the SOW engine will let us have large maps and aircraft carrier, its only a matter of time before we revist the Pacific.

I personally would like a south west pacific map, North coast of New Guinea and west through Dutch East Indies, Borneo etc. It kind of gets forgotten , with all the emphasis on US Carrier opperations.

I'm on holidays next Thursday and am going on a nine day walk along the Kokoda Track in Papua New Guinea (Dad fought along there during the war!) Along the way theres a chance of seeing a few relics of downed aircraft. Should be fun!

Cheers!
David603
06-26-2010, 12:56 AM
IDK,do you think SoW can grow and get as big as IL2?
It will still not have Pacific...
It certainly could grow as big as Il2, and the potential is there to be much bigger, it is only a question of time.....

The Pacific theatre will be done, after the Battle of Britain, Korea and the Mediterranean are finished then it is logical that Oleg will turn to other theatres, and the Pacific is one of the most important so we will see it sooner or later.
Chivas
06-26-2010, 02:48 AM
IF...SOW BOB sells well....the SOW series will have every major WW2 theater of operations, and then some. The SOW engine has been designed too constantly improve over the life of the series.
bf-110
06-26-2010, 03:05 AM
I´m just afraid that in some point,SoW halt the development of IL2 by Team Daidalos.
Skoshi Tiger
06-26-2010, 03:37 AM
I´m just afraid that in some point,SoW halt the development of IL2 by Team Daidalos.

Il2's got a lot of good years left in her due in a big measure to the efforts that team Daidalos has been puting in to her.

Hopefully all the experience that TD is gaining by modding IL-2 will eventually be able to be put in to content for SOW.

Cheers!
Chivas
06-26-2010, 03:50 AM
I´m just afraid that in some point,SoW halt the development of IL2 by Team Daidalos.

I agree with Skoshi Tiger... IL-2 still has a few good years....but it will eventually be time to move on. The SOW engine is far more capable than the IL-2 engine, so most IL-2 modders will move on, but some will stay, heck their are still people flying EAW.

Personally I will probably never fly IL-2 again once SOW comes out. The emersive difference will be that huge.
WTE_Galway
06-26-2010, 05:34 AM
To be honest I have yet to even "test drive" all the planes that come with default 4.09 IL2. I have flown most of what the online community call "crap planes" but never tried a Spit 25, even once, for example.
Friendly_flyer
06-26-2010, 07:28 AM
Well, I'd very much like to have an IL2...
BadAim
06-26-2010, 01:15 PM
For a pacific theatre we just need maps, planes and palm trees. By the time the African add-ons are produced we'll have the palm trees so that only leaves the maps and planes.

If the SOW engine will let us have large maps and aircraft carrier, its only a matter of time before we revist the Pacific.

I personally would like a south west pacific map, North coast of New Guinea and west through Dutch East Indies, Borneo etc. It kind of gets forgotten , with all the emphasis on US Carrier opperations.

I'm on holidays next Thursday and am going on a nine day walk along the Kokoda Track in Papua New Guinea (Dad fought along there during the war!) Along the way theres a chance of seeing a few relics of downed aircraft. Should be fun!

Cheers!

Have fun on your trip, mate. From what I've read of the environment in New Guinea, I'd skip that one myself. Of course you Aussies are made of sterner stuff than us Yanks. :)
SlipBall
06-26-2010, 02:14 PM
Personally I will probably never fly IL-2 again once SOW comes out. The emersive difference will be that huge.



Absolutly:)
Skoshi Tiger
06-26-2010, 11:25 PM
Have fun on your trip, mate. From what I've read of the environment in New Guinea, I'd skip that one myself. Of course you Aussies are made of sterner stuff than us Yanks. :)

I\m not sure about that! It is definately going to be a hard slog, but We're doing everything to make sure it's going to be 'easy' as possible. We're taking our time and porters are carring the heavy stuff. ("Hmmm! Maybe if I hire an extra porter or two they can carry me????")

It is a very good example of the reasons you don't make holiday plans when you've had a few drinks! ("OH GOD! What have I gotten myself into!")

I'll try to find some interesting pictures to take on the way!

Cheers!
BadAim
06-27-2010, 02:41 AM
I\m not sure about that! It is definately going to be a hard slog, but We're doing everything to make sure it's going to be 'easy' as possible. We're taking our time and porters are carring the heavy stuff. ("Hmmm! Maybe if I hire an extra porter or two they can carry me????")

It is a very good example of the reasons you don't make holiday plans when you've had a few drinks! ("OH GOD! What have I gotten myself into!")

I'll try to find some interesting pictures to take on the way!

Cheers!

LOL! Better than a tattoo I guess. I await the pictures, this way I can have a vicarious trip to deepest darkest New Guinea without all the sweating. Safe trip!

Sorry for the thread stealing.

To get back on subject, there just isn't much to ask for as far as planes in IL2, but I'll be more than happy when some of the old favorites pop back up in all their SOW glory. I'm sure high altitude fights in p-47's and 109's will be far better.
Tempest123
06-29-2010, 04:39 PM
I always hoped a griffon spitfire or at least a bubble canopy mk.IX would make it in to the sim, sort of a match for all those 109's. Also hoped for a Tyhpoon when the tempest came out (which still has the best cockpit and model IMHO), but I understand the Tempest was a 3rd party project (gibbage?).
baronWastelan
06-29-2010, 05:51 PM
Me 109 F2 Trop
Me 109 F4 Trop
ECV56_Lancelot
06-29-2010, 06:53 PM
Well, I'd very much like to have an IL2...

+1
Mysticpuma
06-29-2010, 10:09 PM
Axis - Do-217 (still not here

Allied - P-47N with correct cockpits.....yes,yes...I know Grumman!!!! (Don't mention the war!)

Or just a P-47 with corrected cockpits...I have it on authority that it can be done (in other circles ;) )

Cheers, MP
bf-110
06-30-2010, 03:48 AM
P-47 is (was) Republic,not Grumman.
Or did they swallowed Republic too?
Mysticpuma
06-30-2010, 01:20 PM
See, I tried my best to avoid the 'problem' name and you come in and yodel it from the hill top! It was a subtle way of not mentioning the 'real' name....but the name is out of the hat....bugger, no more p-47 updates for me :(
lol

Cheers, MP
Tempest123
07-15-2010, 02:30 AM
How is it that Accusim and other FSX developers can make a P-47 (and many grumman planes) for sale for flight sim x and not run afoul of these legal issues, but a free patch for a 10 year old sim with a smaller audience cant touch these planes? Honestly is grumman even going to notice, (or care because its not for sale) if a Bearcat or P-47 update slips into a TD patch? Its only good PR for them anyways ;)
WTE_Galway
07-15-2010, 03:24 AM
How is it that Accusim and other FSX developers can make a P-47 (and many grumman planes) for sale for flight sim x and not run afoul of these legal issues, but a free patch for a 10 year old sim with a smaller audience cant touch these planes? Honestly is grumman even going to notice, (or care because its not for sale) if a Bearcat or P-47 update slips into a TD patch? Its only good PR for them anyways ;)

According to people in the know NG came very close to stopping Pacific Fighters being released.

People are not making this stuff up.
Tempest123
07-15-2010, 03:51 AM
Wow, not cool NG, not cool....
I wonder if PF had been made by an american company if they would have felt that way? I honestly fail to see how PF was bad publicity or infringing on NG, its not like the Wildcat/Hellcat are badly modeled, they are very good. Dynamix's Aces of the Pacific, and all those history channel shows, and other games are ok then I guess?
I'm no lawyer so I'm assuming its very complicated and probably not discussed very much here. Ah well, I love those Grumman planes so I'm glad we have what we have, perhaps thats why there is no real f-14 sim either?

I used to mod for Red Baron 2 and 3d many years ago over at SWISSA. Anyways, that sim had a long life, but not like Il2. I just came back to sims this year after a 8 or 9 year absence and was suprised to find TD and Il2 still going, and of course Oleg still answering questions ;)
KnightFandragon
07-15-2010, 03:59 AM
Lolz, there wasnt a plane I wanted to see that didnt make it into IL2. When I first played I wanted to fly the P51 and that was there, the P38 was there and the Corsair was there. Not until later when I got tired of the P51 sucking or I sucking w/ it did I fly the Spitfire and fall in love with it haha. Even the Me262 I wanted to see and it was there. If was anything I wanted to see that didnt make it was more skins for the planes. Seeing how your talking about no mods. eventually i got AAA mod and that was fun =D ME410 and Revolver Cannons was the death of my already ish gunnery.