View Full Version : Example experiment physic crash.
Xilon_x
06-12-2010, 10:23 AM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AWLOWUWXxB4&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EOHSaQXySGU&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HlbMzlivCMQ&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPFaRHfXlZo&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6PSt2AOfejc
REAL CRASH
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IH5uvog4rS4
swiss
06-12-2010, 12:42 PM
When will you ever stop to post your smart ass shit?!
I specially like your last link - RAMSTEIN.
This was the worst ever accident during a flight show.
67 spectators and 3 pilots died, and 346 spectators sustained serious injuries in the resulting explosion and fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramstein_airshow_disaster
The fear of an accident like that is also the reason most flight teams still can only show crappy maneuvers. Over 20years later.
Everybody who's interested in aeronautics, just the slightest bit, knows about it.
But you dare to post it here as motion-study for modeling you little FU¢K!
Qpassa
06-12-2010, 02:39 PM
When will you ever stop to post your smart ass shit?!
I specially like your last link - RAMSTEIN.
This was the worst ever accident during a flight show.
67 spectators and 3 pilots died, and 346 spectators sustained serious injuries in the resulting explosion and fire
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ramstein_airshow_disaster
The fear of an accident like that is also the reason most flight teams still can only show crappy maneuvers. Over 20years later.
Everybody who's interested in aeronautics, just the slightest bit, knows about it.
But you dare to post it here as motion-study for modeling you little FU¢K!
:(
Xilon_x
06-12-2010, 03:47 PM
sorry I did not want to offend anyone but I just wanted to show you the reality of a real accident. images are recorded in an accident but every incident and tragedy.
You do not offend you please.
You will not complain please.
all types of accidents are tragic. be normal.
actual pictures of accidents are used to study physics
AndyJWest
06-12-2010, 03:55 PM
sorry I did not want to offend anyone but I just wanted to show you the reality of a real accident. images are recorded in an accident but every incident and tragedy.
You do not offend you please.
You will not complain please.
all types of accidents are tragic. be normal.
actual pictures of accidents are used to study physics
We aren't studying physics here, we are discussing an air combat simulator we fly for fun.
Will you please stop posting your offensive and irrelevant garbage on this forum. None of it is the slightest use to anyone. Stop insulting 1C:Maddox by suggesting it is.
Xilon_x
06-12-2010, 04:09 PM
OK OK sorry I will not post pictures ever or immagin tragedic incident or crash.
Sorry i not want offend or insulting 1C or Maddox.
was only a demonstration.
Sorry.
Lucas_From_Hell
06-12-2010, 04:53 PM
Even if you're showing "demonstrations" (useless, given the complexity of the Damage Models for Storm of War), the ones you chose were ridiculously poor.
For example, that F4F nosediving fast with the engine running (i.e. fuel in the tanks) into a street and just cartwheeling without a scratch is just beyond ridiculous.
Please, there are scientific and military-grade documented crash tests available for the developers. They don't need you to teach them how it happens. If the development team needs help with modelling crashes, be sure they will go for official tests before trying poorly made animations on YouTube.
Alien
06-12-2010, 05:11 PM
On the damage topic, I want to see something like this in the sim :cool::
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cjq-yK2ak_U&feature=related
Xilon_x
06-12-2010, 05:14 PM
you're right.Lucas_From_Hell.
the first video and ridiculous.
or only those found on you-tube.
But a true crash and completely different from a simulated crash the computer.
I hope and believe that the experts of 1C Maddox, do miracles to make a crash impact more 'real as possible.
zakkandrachoff
06-12-2010, 05:34 PM
this is my lovely flanker
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrB-YQqeNpk
KG26_Alpha
06-12-2010, 06:03 PM
Yawn
Delete thread
Again...........
swiss
06-12-2010, 06:30 PM
You do not offend you please.
Ok, I'll try.
WTF? Stop posting. Those ppl know what they do - they already proven.
Why don't you show us some KZ executions, just for the developers to know how to model "human damage"?
You're either unbelievable arrogant or stupid, maybe both - it's hard to tell.
BTW: Thread reported
Xilon_x
06-12-2010, 06:50 PM
I think everyone likes a real physic destruction.
I'm not arrogant or stupid.
You are offending me.
You're exaggerating, you were attacking me, I'm asking the questions.
I am a customer who buys your product and how customers requested clarification on the product and I like to talk, advise, explain, compare, see, and talk about topics that affect the simulation SoW.
SoW is not 'an arcade. SoW not ridiculous videogame.Sow not 'simple.
Sow and 'complicated.
Sow and 'dedicated to a clientele of real pilots or peoples who like to play simulated.
Sow and 'dedicated to people who can fly a plane of World War II.
You are stupid and criticized me.
You want provocate me.
I am intelligent and do not answer your stupid provocations.
I remeber you SoW not is a simple stupid arcade game but serius and perfect simulator of ww2 airplane.
Qpassa
06-12-2010, 06:56 PM
You are trolling 1C Forums
swiss
06-12-2010, 06:58 PM
.
I am intelligent and do not answer your stupid provocations.
.
You just did.
Two words: Fu¢k off.
No one needs your advice, also the development of the game should already be far beyond the point where your suggestions would be of any significance.
How old are you anyway?
Xilon_x
06-12-2010, 07:19 PM
Mr.Swiss
i have 35 years old.
i play to il-2 sturmovik 1946 from 4 years past ago'.
i partecipated whit a member of il-2 airracing server.
and i am italian.
i use hyperlobby sistem of internet interface.
and i like play to all tipe simulation program.
flyingbullseye
06-12-2010, 07:54 PM
Yo swiss, might want to take a deep breath and ignore him. He's not worth getting either banned or warned with a short time off for inappropriate response. While I agree with you and others its just best to nod your head and laugh at the trolling.
Flyingbullseye
swiss
06-12-2010, 10:59 PM
Xilon_x
This message is hidden because Xilon_x is on your ignore list.
I already feel much better now. Thanks. :-)
major_setback
06-13-2010, 01:11 AM
I'll explain why people are upset.
There is a tradition on the forums (this one and Ubisoft's) of not posting any offensive material. There are children who come here for one thing.
To show a film of a plane that crashes into a crowd killing 67 people is not exactly the best way to make a point about making realistic crash-models.
It's why people get angry. To most people it is very distasteful and disrespectful, to say the least.
I think that if films like this have ever been shown before then it has been done in a spirit of compassion, where the horror of the event is the point that is being made.
I know that I can't watch them without thinking about all those injured or killed.
zakkandrachoff
06-13-2010, 02:17 AM
in men of war i install a mod that the soldiers have "physic crash"
works from cal0.50, 20mm german cannons to 75mm tank cannons and artillery.
http://i970.photobucket.com/albums/ae188/zakkandrachoff/091212-1449-00.jpg?t=1276395876
LukeFF
06-13-2010, 02:55 AM
in men of war i install a mod that the soldiers have "physic crash"
works from cal0.50, 20mm german cannons to 75mm tank cannons and artillery.
And what's your point?
Xilon_x
06-13-2010, 07:01 AM
Gentlemen, Members of this forum I apologize.
I apologize if those images are horrible.
But I want to emphasize that war is war, war knows all kinds of violence.
I want you to realize that war is war.
An accident is an accident and normal perfectly normal that are tragic and violent images.
It could also prohibit SoW children under age of 18 if you want to say that there 'violence.
SoW is available to persons age 18 years because 'there are images of war or violent images.
I absolutely do not want to offend anyone in this forum.
I do not want to offend 1C Maddox.
I hope you understand.
I do not understand the reason why 'you want me to ignore me. WHY?
REMEMBER GTA series of game? is proibited to children under age 18. yes
swiss
06-13-2010, 08:21 AM
And what's your point?
Probably a, supposed to be funny, reply to #12.
swiss
06-13-2010, 08:48 AM
Xilon - I really don't know what's worse: the fact I took you from my ignore list, or the fact you still don't get it.
While I can(and will) fix the first problem, the latter is actually sad.
Edit:
Oh, and one more thing: Do me, no, all of us, the favor and try to use firefox - they have a wonderful add-on called "English spellchecking dictionary". Try to use it. Thx.
Lucas_From_Hell
06-13-2010, 09:15 AM
But I want to emphasize that war is war, war knows all kinds of violence.
I want you to realize that war is war.
An Italian trying to show Russian developers that war is war. Wake up, mate. It's easy to find someone whose grandfather or grandmother (or even father and mother) fought in the war, got wounded in the war and died in the war. You don't seem to realize the scale of the conflict.
People don't need you to remind them how war is, they've had enough war already, trust me.
The developers and other members of this forum know war is war, we read books about wars and we are fully aware of how horrible and cruel war is.
Can you please stop trying to show us that a circle is round and a square has four sides now?
bf-110
06-13-2010, 05:51 PM
I'll explain why people are upset.
There is a tradition on the forums (this one and Ubisoft's) of not posting any offensive material. There are children who come here for one thing.
To show a film of a plane that crashes into a crowd killing 67 people is not exactly the best way to make a point about making realistic crash-models.
It's why people get angry. To most people it is very distasteful and disrespectful, to say the least.
I think that if films like this have ever been shown before then it has been done in a spirit of compassion, where the horror of the event is the point that is being made.
I know that I can't watch them without thinking about all those injured or killed.
That´s why all the flaming...
Well,you may call me sob,but I didn´t get seriously impressed with the last video.Since,no dead bodies or injured people are show (apparently).Crashes should never happen in airshows,spoil the event and scare the crowd...
The first video is cool,the 3d,but the effects not.
BadAim
06-14-2010, 11:40 AM
I love the ignore list now, it's my favorite feature all of a sudden.
brando
06-14-2010, 01:00 PM
That´s why all the flaming...
Well,you may call me sob,but I didn´t get seriously impressed with the last video.Since,no dead bodies or injured people are show (apparently).Crashes should never happen in airshows,spoil the event and scare the crowd...
The first video is cool,the 3d,but the effects not.
It's just clear that you have little imagination and no ability to empathize with a tragedy and its consequences. That's sad, but it doesn't qualify you as a son-of-a-bitch I'm afraid. You'll have to try harder.
Brando
Xilon_x
06-14-2010, 09:09 PM
dear brando i have another crash important video but i not put in because the peoples of this forum not like it.
mosth peoples not like crash.....but Sow have bombs and war plane.
Mosth peoples not like violence ....but Sow is a WW2 simulation game.
Mosth peoples not like my post and my idea.....but Sow have mosth idea and most alternative idea.
ok i ask at all peoples of this forum if you don't like crash
if you don't like violence
if you don't like war
if you don't like story
if you don't like real war real simulation and real violence and goore or sad
BECAUSE not RETURN to play to FSX?
FSX is only fly
FSX no WAR
FSX no violence no bombs no strategy no crash no real atmosfere of WW2
FSX is only flight no adrenaline no emotion no pure efect.
WAR is WAR and Sow is Simulation of WAR the WAR have all type the violence strategy and tattical tecnology.
ok if SoW is only Flight simulator i not buy it because i like to play whit all peoples of this world to real simulation ww2 and not fiction or fake.
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 is Fantastic and i like play a war to another peoples whit another nation to war game.
SOW is the future now i wait this WW2 simulation from 1C company and i have pacience.
bf-110
06-14-2010, 10:32 PM
It's just clear that you have little imagination and no ability to empathize with a tragedy and its consequences. That's sad, but it doesn't qualify you as a son-of-a-bitch I'm afraid. You'll have to try harder.
Brando
Well,we start getting used with tragedy these days.
But I better stay away from here,or the mess will hit me.The 3d of the first video was very cool,but the crash effect was poor.
Igo kyu
06-14-2010, 11:37 PM
WAR is WAR and Sow is Simulation of WAR the WAR have all type the violence strategy and tattical tecnology.
ok if SoW is only Flight simulator i not buy it because i like to play whit all peoples of this world to real simulation ww2 and not fiction or fake.
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 is Fantastic and i like play a war to another peoples whit another nation to war game.
SOW is the future now i wait this WW2 simulation from 1C company and i have pacience.
Yes, maybe, but....
There are rules and regulations about violence, and obscenity and violence. If the rules say that kids under 18 can't buy a game with violence, then that means a lot of sales can be lost if a game includes violence. Sure some kids have parents who will buy games for them that they aren't allowed to buy for themselves, but a lot more kids just miss out, and those are lost potential sales.
When people complain about kids playing adult rated games, gamers say the fault is with the parents who buy the games for the kids, and I think the gamers are right. Which means kid sales for adult games are rightly lost. 1c probably (I don't strictly speaking know this, but it's easy to guess) cannot afford the lost sales of SoW being an adults only game.
Xilon_x
06-15-2010, 06:57 AM
Igo Kiu.
those children who play IL-2 Sturmovik 1946?
how many children playing FSX?
how many kids playing at f16 falcon?
those children who play lock-on or blak shak?
my answer'................ very few.
child prefers a more 'play an arcade game than a simulator.
The simulator for a child and boring, there are many things to learn.
Children want the fun direct children not studying books or manuals to learn a simulator.
you remember the series of GTA games? (Gran Theft Auto). was prohibited to anyone under 18.
GTA has lost market but has gained much more '.
most adults buying GTA for their sun.
To IL-2 example I play online 'meeting for adult professionals or even real pilots and rarely play online with a child-IL2 Sturmovik.
The average age 'for the play-2 was 19 28 or 30 or 32 even 60 or 40.
Xilon_x
06-15-2010, 11:03 AM
real spitfire crash.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V-sp2k68T2I&feature=related
swiss
06-15-2010, 03:16 PM
ok i ask at all peoples of this forum if you don't like crash
if you don't like violence
if you don't like war
if you don't like story
if you don't like real war real simulation and real violence and goore or sad
"LIKE" violence?
"LIKE" war?
Boy, you're are so nuts.
As men, we like action: fire, flashes, booms & big guns.
But IL2 is just a game; if you shoot somebody down, he can respawn within seconds - this not going to happen in real life.
In real life you can touch and even smell death, there is a big fat red line between games and reality, obviously retards like you can not see it.
Ppl like you are also the reason governments want to ban those killer games.
And there is decency, what do think will happen if one of the relatives of those victims reads your post in this context?
Still don't understand?
Let me help you:
You CAN post war pictures all day long as long as we don't have to see shattered bodies.
It still is not really ok, but anyway.
You CANNOT post of pictures of accidents where civilians died.
For instance:
- Ramstein
- Lockerbie
- 9/11
- Concorde/Paris
...
Do you get it?
Also, if Oleg gave a flying fu¢k about your linked videos you'd have his email so you can contact him directly.
DO YOU?
No? Hmmm...
PS: I wonder if you ever had contact with bodies? Did you? Or have you even served in military?
Xilon_x
06-16-2010, 09:39 AM
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 CRASH TEST. What is your point?
What is your observation? What is your coment?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tEAd4und0dU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n5Wg6YTm-q8&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=um8ExM-tiI0&feature=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ni47R7jpyvY&feature=related
AndyJWest
06-16-2010, 09:48 AM
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 CRASH TEST. What is your point?
What is your observation? What is your coment?
And what is your point Xilon_x? Do you think Oleg Maddox hasn't seen crashes from his own simulator?
Stop filling the forum with your meaningless garbage!
You obviously don't have the faintest understanding about what is involved in software development, and frankly I don't think you understand much else either. Nobody is interested in random junk from YouTube, or anything else you post. All you do is make this forum look like a children's playpen.
Xilon_x
06-16-2010, 10:15 AM
must be observed carefully.
you must say what is right and wrong.
as you can 'improve.
because AndyJWest answer me sick?
Here in this forum will seek the views of all the other members?
We know that Oleg Maddox is working hard.
but I think Oleg Maddox also wants to know what they think their customers.
I think that we are players and we must speak.
if there are ideas and considerations for improving the new mortgage SOW.
LukeFF
06-16-2010, 10:32 AM
IL-2 Sturmovik 1946 CRASH TEST. What is your point?
What is your observation? What is your coment?
That you're clueless, that's what.
Xilon_x
06-16-2010, 10:44 AM
Mr Swiss.I know very well distinguish a simulation from the real life.
are two very different things.
The simulation is used to vent anger and aggressiveness up its own 'in a world not real.
But psychologically I do not involve me.
simulatzione is the simulation.
real life is real life.
AndyJWest
06-16-2010, 11:23 AM
real life is real life.
Garbage posted on internet forums is garbage.
Tempest123
06-16-2010, 03:48 PM
Mods can we please end this thread
swiss
06-16-2010, 06:24 PM
must be observed carefully.
you must say what is right and wrong.
as you can 'improve.
because AndyJWest answer me sick?
Here in this forum will seek the views of all the other members?
We know that Oleg Maddox is working hard.
but I think Oleg Maddox also wants to know what they think their customers.
I think that we are players and we must speak.
if there are ideas and considerations for improving the new mortgage SOW.
Now you sound like Yoda - or maybe more like Gollum.
LOL!
But psychologically I do not involve me.
I guess you made a point here.
http://www.straferight.com/photopost/data/500/medium/double-facepalm.jpg
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