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Crni vuk
05-30-2010, 05:33 PM
Is there any explanation for situations like this ? I am just curious as there is no way such a small vehicle should defeat a rocket with a shaped charge ...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fx6dBGWPnmE
Evilsausage
05-30-2010, 05:47 PM
Yeah it is very odd. From what i know Rockets in Singleplayer was complete crap. Atleast in the first version..
Think they lost penetration depending on distance like real guns. Which made em almost useless.
It could also be just a rare glitch or the Bazooka hit the tracks. Thats why it did't penetrate the hull. Then again there was no track damage message..
Anyway im just guessing here. Very strange...
Exp. 1) Bad luck.
Exp.2) Bug.
Exp.3) The design MoW vehicles may be more detailed than it meets the eye. The tanks, for example, have sweet spots (the ammo storage), which, upon being hit, make the tank explode. That spot you hit in the vid could be the opposite of that.
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KnightFandragon
05-30-2010, 06:29 PM
Lol, thats nothing new to me....ive always found infantry shape charge weapons to be friggin useless in this game.....I play with them occasionally in the editor and I used them in SP missions for kicks and they just bounce......Panzerfaust, Shreck's zooka's...it doesnt matter. IDK why though in MP the Bazooka is sooo good though and how in MP the Panzerfaust is decent.......if im going to nuke a tank its gunna be w/ a Molotov to the engine block.....those work very well
Crni vuk
05-30-2010, 08:19 PM
Exp. 1) Bad luck.
Exp.2) Bug.
Exp.3) The design MoW vehicles may be more detailed than it meets the eye. The tanks, for example, have sweet spots (the ammo storage), which, upon being hit, make the tank explode. That spot you hit in the vid could be the opposite of that.
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I know about that and I dont have issues with it actualy to fail sometimes. I am using the bazooka here which well frankly was not known for its great armor killing qualities which lead eventualy to upgraded post war versions changing the warhead from I think 60mm to 100mm (more close to the Panzerschreck with its 80 or 88mm). Many of the issues though that have been adressed in the Africa champaign and the Pacific like bad fuses and other problems have been solved around 44 so at least the chance of duds was reduced drasticaly and the overall reliability of the warehead increased. All in all it became a "good" weapon against light vehicles. But it always remained a more or less desperate weapon for the infantry so they would not get overrun so easily by enemy armor.
Thing is if the situation would be obvious like using the bazooka rocket against the front of the Panther or Tiger II even I would not even start asking here or complain as those tanks have been known for their habit to resist the Bazooka and shaped charges loose power just like shells against sloped armor (though I have the feeling this is pretty exagerated in the game as even very weak armor gains much from the effect already). But the vehicle in the video is "just" a light US AA tank shooting it from the side which probably has not much more protection compared to some armored halftrack. And even if it hits the tracks ~ which it did some times when I reloeaded and tried it again, it should STILL have enough power and force to penetrate in to the crew compartmant and damage it heavily I mean com on .. it has armor of paper !. This kind of strange things happen quite often sometimes. Also including tank guns. I mean imagine situations where you manage to sneak up to a heavy tank and shoot its side with a bazooka, schreck or faust just to see nothing more then the tank shaking ... other times the IS2 gets penetrated from even a strange angle and quite some distance from a rocket. I noticed the Panzerfaust 100 beeing one of the best weapons though but thats understandable considering the size of the warehead (140mm) which would give it some pretty good quality in penetrating enemy armor.
I have no clue if it are just bugs or if its intended. But the later would be a bit worse in my eyes.
SpeedWolf
05-31-2010, 08:02 AM
if you think the Bazookas is Useless in Singleplayer, try the Bazookas jeeps in Multiplayer.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZX3EnuKCV4k
:confused:Why? Strange, isn't it?
Evilsausage
05-31-2010, 08:21 AM
Haha lol great video Speedwolf! :grin:
I very rarely use the Bazooka jeep in MP. But damn is it really that bad?!
I atleast remember that i have killed stuff with it
KnightFandragon
05-31-2010, 08:28 AM
I want that jeep from the US lvl 4 where your driving to Sbiba in that beefy little MG/Bazooka Armored thing, that thing's bazooka was good and the 50cal it had was rediculously powerful
SpeedWolf
05-31-2010, 08:44 AM
Haha lol great video Speedwolf! :grin:
I very rarely use the Bazooka jeep in MP. But damn is it really that bad?!
I atleast remember that i have killed stuff with it
you really lucky because i use 3 of them in Multiplayer at the same tank and at the same time.
all the rocket hit the tank but nothing happen really nothing happen and is not my first time they just never work for me.:confused:
"great video Speedwolf" haha compare to yours all my video are boring.
Dwarden
05-31-2010, 10:18 PM
it's me
or you captured video including your product key in steamoverlay popup :)
careful next time :)
Korsakov829
06-01-2010, 12:21 AM
I want that jeep from the US lvl 4 where your driving to Sbiba in that beefy little MG/Bazooka Armored thing, that thing's bazooka was good and the 50cal it had was rediculously powerful
The jeep is not meant to take on medium to heavy tanks, but APCs, fortified buildings and light tanks like the Panzer II. Its a hit and run scout vehicle.
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