When will il2 mod the G-suit?

[BlackBerry]

After D day, US Burger and RAF MKIII G-suit, especailly useful for 5G-8G maneuver such as highspeed turning.


http://www.asc-csa.gc.ca/eng/astronauts/osm_aviation.asp

[Novotny]

I think it's in about two weeks

[AndyJWest]

Hopefully, it will be added to the sim with patch 4.10, so the pilot can pull 8G, and watch his wings fall off when he does it. :-D

[BlackBerry]

Hopefully, it will be added to the sim with patch 4.10, so the pilot can pull 8G, and watch his wings fall off when he does it. :-D

8G can't get wing off, 12G does it .:) When you pull 5G-8G, a/c is fine;when pulling 8G-12G, a/c gets damaged.

5G lasting for 5 seconds, pilots get black vision, so 5G-8G is the "improvable range" for allied late planes.

[Sternjaeger]

AFAIK it was only experimental stuff, and it was seldom used.. worth the effort? uhmmm...

[Ernst]

Newbie turn n burner request. :evil:

[ramstein]

There was a WWII movie with Jimmie Stewart testing the G-Suit..

[BlackBerry]

AFAIK it was only experimental stuff, and it was seldom used.. worth the effort? uhmmm...


experimental stuff in1940，widely used after D day。:grin:



MIGHTY EIGHTH WAR MANUAL, by Ron Freeman

Heres the relevant text regarding G-suits from MIGHT EIGHTH WAR MANUAL:



G-SUITS
Pre-war work had been carried out in the US to perfect some form of pressure suit that would prevent pilot 'blackout' in aircraft performaing sharp manoeuvres at speed. The benefit in fighter combat was clear, for the prevention of blackout would allow a pliot to make tighter turns. The Eight Air Force became interested in the American Berger anti-G suits in September 1943 and in early 1944 acquired sufficient to conduct tests. Comparative tests were run with the RAF water pressure anti-G device, the Frank suit. The results showed both equally effective, and as 9th Air Force had a priority on the Berger suit, VIII FC decided for the time being to use the Frank suit as this was more readily available. During April 1944 the 4th Group gace the suit an extended trial but pilots took a dislike to it because of bulk, weight, heat and discomfort, to say nothin of the difficulties if it sprang a leak. Faced with this disapproval, VIII FC decided to abandon the Frank and wait for the Berger. By 3 June sufficient Berger G-3 suits had been obtained from 9th Air Force to equip the 339th Group, who quickly appreciated the benefits and wore the suits on every mission. A larger supply of G-3s was not available until October, but all groups were equipped by November.
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Here is the scan of the Anti G-Suit the US was using in 1944. This G-suit was rated very high by the 75 pilots (including British pilots) who tried it out at the Joint Fighter Confrence 16-23 October 1944, Pg 314. The G-suit was rated excellent for pulling short high G rated turns. Pulling as much as 7 G's without graying out were noted while utilizing this G-suit, some pilots were able to pull 7.9 G's. A 4-g turn was held for 720degrees with no sign of fade or blackout.


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[BlackBerry]

Newbie turn n burner request. :evil:

High speed “double split-S” also need it。

[kimosabi]

I just hope they won't implement the G-suits in fighters earlier than late 1944. That would really screw up the immersion for me.

Thanks for that info, BlackBerry.

[JG27CaptStubing]

Even with a Modern G suit you're are only extended an extra G or so... It take training and you have to work up to attempt to sustain high Gs. Plus new planes have limiters so you don't Bend the plane or the pilot.

[Sternjaeger]

widely used by ONE squadron..
The 339th was made of 3 squadrons: 503rd, 504th and 505th
the average squadron had 12 to 14 plane, so what we're talking about is circa 60 planes (operational and non operational..). If that's not marginal use I don't know how to call it.

Bear in mind that we don't have things like fatigue factor implemented in the sim (keep on pulling 4-5 Gs for 20 minutes wears you out, diminishing your tolerance)..

There's really no point mate..

A.

[BlackBerry]

widely used by ONE squadron..
The 339th was made of 3 squadrons: 503rd, 504th and 505th
the average squadron had 12 to 14 plane, so what we're talking about is circa 60 planes (operational and non operational..). If that's not marginal use I don't know how to call it.


There's really no point mate..

A.

By 3 June sufficient Berger G-3 suits had been obtained from 9th Air Force to equip the 339th Group, who quickly appreciated the benefits and wore the suits on every mission. A larger supply of G-3s was not available until October, but all groups were equipped by November.



Bear in mind that we don't have things like fatigue factor implemented in the sim (keep on pulling 4-5 Gs for 20 minutes wears you out, diminishing your tolerance)..

4.10 will do that.

[Sternjaeger]

By 3 June sufficient Berger G-3 suits had been obtained from 9th Air Force to equip the 339th Group, who quickly appreciated the benefits and wore the suits on every mission. A larger supply of G-3s was not available until October, but all groups were equipped by November.





4.10 will do that.

Yes, but again it's just marginal, as was used only on certain type of planes and not all pilots used it anyway, just like more than pilot wasn't too keen in using the K-14 gunsight because they were used to the "old way".
Anyway, I assume it's no biggie for the programmers, and if they're really implementing pilot's fatigue (I didn't know that, do u have a link to the details about it?) then it'd be cool.