Design Flaw, Not a Bug

[USA Trucker]

I have notice today that if you go to the 60 miles bar/diner, and look at the newspaper, and see an "Open Mission", it will state that you must go to a certain warehouse/s by a certain time of day. There is a problem here. Of all the important things to list on the HUD, nowhere does it list the current time of day. So, you will expend an enormous amount of time going to that warehouse, only to find you're late!!

A way around that is to go to the motel, and there they tell you what the current time is, but without a current clock on the HUD, you'll never know if you're making it on time.

[flykas]

That "black shark" device shows what time it is at the bottom. Atleast in russian version.

[USA Trucker]

That "black shark" device shows what time it is at the bottom. Atleast in russian version.

Which "Black Shark" item are you referring to. I have a couple of them (US version)?

[pook]

Yes. I think it activates the F3 or F4. Something like that. But it is true that the play bar (HUD) at the top could also be an indicator of time. For example I would like to be able to disable the gaming HUD and not see her. I get in your way. And when I want to check to see the on and off ...

[USA Trucker]

Yes. I think it activates the F3 or F4. Something like that. But it is true that the play bar (HUD) at the top could also be an indicator of time. For example I would like to be able to disable the gaming HUD and not see her. I get in your way. And when I want to check to see the on and off ...

The F3 key is for the "Black Shark" monitor. I already have that activated, and there is no clock.

[pook]

That's what I thought. Well, I already can not remember if there's time. I did not already played more than a month. A Russian version of the time I not needed. because I just did not understand the text message which was a time ....... Hmm. Maybe Softlab assumes that everyone has to watch his hands. And that does not need game time then:) hehe. In this game, blame anything. Everything possible and impossible.

[donnerwetter]

The F3 key is for the "Black Shark" monitor. I already have that activated, and there is no clock.

Clock is by the bottom of the window. See attachment.

[USA Trucker]

Clock is by the bottom of the window. See attachment.

Many thanks. I guess RnR couldn't make it easy by putting it on the HUD, and get rid of some of the useless items.:rolleyes:

[donnerwetter]

Many thanks. I guess RnR couldn't make it easy by putting it on the HUD, and get rid of some of the useless items.:rolleyes:

The main reason that the clock is not on the HUD is that minutes would pass at the speed of seconds, which is obviously not good.

[USA Trucker]

The main reason that the clock is not on the HUD is that minutes would pass at the speed of seconds, which is obviously not good.

Actually 18WOS has it, and I didn't find this to be a problem. The minutes moving at game time speed shouldn't be an issue, it would be expected.

[donnerwetter]

Actually 18WOS has it, and I didn't find this to be a problem. The minutes moving at game time speed shouldn't be an issue, it would be expected.

OK, I see your point.
Actually, devs are considering putting some time indicator to the HUD. Maybe they'll sort it out in add-on. (Then again, maybe not)

[USA Trucker]

OK, I see your point.
Actually, devs are considering putting some time indicator to the HUD. Maybe they'll sort it out in add-on. (Then again, maybe not)

I'll go with the maybe not, because they don't add/fix any of the serious issues or suggestions stated by so many from this forum.

[donnerwetter]

I'll go with the maybe not, because they don't add/fix any of the serious issues or suggestions stated by so many from this forum.

There is dozens of reasons why they didn't fix all issues or hear to all suggestions.
Regarding issues, some of them are major, and some minor, not all minor issues can be fixed in given time (taking in account that they have to fix major issues first), and even not all major issues can be fixed for this time (sad but true).
As for suggestions, some of them are excellent while others just don't belong to this game (for example, RnR unlike 18WoS has always been about races and competition).
I can assure you that devs read this forums (and many others) and considering all suggestions.

But I guess it is already is much of offtopic -)

[USA Trucker]

There is dozens of reasons why they didn't fix all issues or hear to all suggestions.
Regarding issues, some of them are major, and some minor, not all minor issues can be fixed in given time (taking in account that they have to fix major issues first), and even not all major issues can be fixed for this time (sad but true).
As for suggestions, some of them are excellent while others just don't belong to this game (for example, RnR unlike 18WoS has always been about races and competition).
I can assure you that devs read this forums (and many others) and considering all suggestions.

But I guess it is already is much of offtopic -)

You sound like you work for them. Any how I disagree, and I'm sure a vast majority here would too. RnR calls this game a trucking SIMULATION. A simulation for the most part is to imitate life as much as possible. Well... racing for a job, or competition delivery contracts just does not happen anymore. It's not economically sound, and it's unsafe. Companies today deal with warehouse's by reliability, reputation, on-time performance, and cost. They don't call warehouse's and say "hey, the first one here gets the contract". That has not happened since the days my father drove. When I use to drive, I wanted to get to my destination early, because I didn't want to wait for other trucks to unload, before I did. Some jobs do have a time of delivery schedule, but not a race. So, putting in a time-limit is something RnR did OK with.

We're not off-topic here. I created this thread called "Design Flaw", and I believe we are still talking about the "DESIGN" of the game.

[novatekk]

You sound like you work for them.

He does, so at least they are reading these forums and the complaints.

[donnerwetter]

But then again, current design is different from what you saying here.
It's like, you are right, but they are right, too. RnR actually have non-competition deliveries - actually, lot of them if you count side quests.
RnR just trying to be a game, and of course RnR posess lots of 'improper' - how shall I put it? - allowances? - such as compressed time or competition deliveries.
RnR tries to entertain its players and have several ways to do it.
You can, if you want, do races and only races. Or you can build up your company. Or you can do all side-quests in the game (no one of them requires you to race or compete) and never visit a warehouse or your office. You can play storyline if you want it. If you don't want it, you can drop it.

TL;DR I am trying to say that RnR doesn't force you to play competition deliveries or races. But why to remove them completely?

[USA Trucker]

He does, so at least they are reading these forums and the complaints.

That's good. At least we know somebody is looking.

But then again, current design is different from what you saying here.
It's like, you are right, but they are right, too. RnR actually have non-competition deliveries - actually, lot of them if you count side quests.
RnR just trying to be a game, and of course RnR posess lots of 'improper' - how shall I put it? - allowances? - such as compressed time or competition deliveries.
RnR tries to entertain its players and have several ways to do it.
You can, if you want, do races and only races. Or you can build up your company. Or you can do all side-quests in the game (no one of them requires you to race or compete) and never visit a warehouse or your office. You can play storyline if you want it. If you don't want it, you can drop it.

TL;DR I am trying to say that RnR doesn't force you to play competition deliveries or races. But why to remove them completely?

Heres the catch. Non competitive deliveries are very few. In each warehouse you might see 2-3 (in the large ones) and 1-2 (in the small ones). The majority is competitive, and racing. Also the non competitive ones pay the least, and if you want all the cool stuff for your truck, it will take forever to do it (if difficulty is set high).

Most if not all of the side quest have a time limit, and some are impossible to meet if you don't upgrade your truck. Which puts us back to my first paragraph.

If you abandon the story line, you won't get the final award, and win. Sure, they don't force you to race, or compete, but it would be hard, if not impossible to complete the story line without racing, or competing.

[pook]

But at a certain scale maps which are present in the game may not be the problem. If the map scale of 1:1 and as time went on in the game now shows the game time would look weird.
It just looks weird anyway. HUD on the mile/h Are you going eg 55 miles/h and the alternation of day and night is fast and visually does not match this unit Mile/h. So there still may be the time and flow rate of game time on HUD. (Depending on the speed setting time in the game menu)...

As for the game. If I sat down and began to wonder what the game so badly I would describe the text that so many posts on the forum or not. So you will save work and write a problem for me, the most vital. And that behavior is bad physics trailer. If enhancing the game and be there the same physics, I'd always wanted not to play. For me the biggest problem. If physics corrected, then I can write another draft. Without that, it's no prize for me. So you will save time and nerves. Yet