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Spitfire23
11-27-2009, 07:35 PM
Ok, here is my next one.

This one is with it's wings removed
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/working/12593514035272?738492026

And here it is WITH wings. (Edited it to make it easier to see and to avoid Cheaters ;))
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/working/12593514035272?493372976

trk29
11-27-2009, 08:13 PM
Same picture.

Martinho
11-27-2009, 10:32 PM
One of teh saabs? viggen?

All good guesses but wrong... remember, funny name

For another hint, the production of this plane involved spies and stolen plans.

The plane in the tree is a Huff-Daland Duster. Leaving the N-number visible is an invitation to cheat, so I did :D

Martinho
11-27-2009, 10:41 PM
That sounds like concord :grin:

Dassault dagger

Some of the info was heisted via computer espionage, or something like that... but not all of it. It had something to do with lax security because of multiple countries having access to the information.

But in the case of the plane above, ALL the plans were stolen, in one of the biggest spy operations of the 20th century. That should be enough of a dead giveaway. If anyone gets mad when they figure it out, at least it's not an obscure prototype, and it is a different plane from the plans.

kozzm0
11-27-2009, 10:55 PM
ok final hint before I reveal the answer: yes, it was, in fact, stolen from Dassault.

I guess the f-35 lovers didn't materialize but it's a good thing I didn't say anything bad about the f-22. Though I think it put all its eggs in the BVR basket too, at least as far as combat vs OVT planes is concerned. [ducks]

I considered posting the Viggen, actually, I like the fighters that can land on roads. More sensible than putting vtol on a plane and then still calling it a fighter.

Vulcan607
11-28-2009, 03:44 PM
Northrop tiger II?

kozzm0
11-28-2009, 04:09 PM
time's up, the plane I posted is the IAI Kfir. Mirage3 + stolen plans = Kfir. The Mirage 3's plans were stolen by the Mossad after France embargoed Israel. Israel added their own, better engine and their own avionics and a few other things.

Vulcan607
11-28-2009, 04:13 PM
so now you know

Vulcan607
11-28-2009, 04:14 PM
Ok, here is my next one.

This one is with it's wings removed
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/working/12593514035272?738492026

And here it is WITH wings. (Edited it to make it easier to see and to avoid Cheaters ;))
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/working/12593514035272?493372976

Thunderbird 2?

Soviet Ace
11-28-2009, 04:18 PM
time's up, the plane I posted is the IAI Kfir. Mirage3 + stolen plans = Kfir. The Mirage 3's plans were stolen by the Mossad after France embargoed Israel. Israel added their own, better engine and their own avionics and a few other things.

Are you sure about that? I mean Mossad stealing France's blueprints of the Mirage 3. Because I remember reading somewhere, that since France was supplying Israel with planes, tanks, and weapons (before the US took over as the main contributor,) they gave the Israeli's the Mirage 3 because it was becoming outdated for the French Air Force. And also, that's how they got other Mirage's like the IV and another early Mirage (by buying them, and then suiting them up for their own uses, not stealing the prints).

Vulcan607
11-28-2009, 04:28 PM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/as.jpg
and another mass of strings and wings
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/sus.jpg

mattmanB182
11-28-2009, 05:27 PM
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/as.jpg
and another mass of strings and wings
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/sus.jpg

Shackelton?

Vulcan607
11-28-2009, 05:51 PM
yes A.V.Roe Shackleton
now only my seaplane to go.

Spitfire23
11-28-2009, 06:59 PM
Ok, here is my next one.

This one is with it's wings removed
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/working/12593514035272?738492026

And here it is WITH wings. (Edited it to make it easier to see and to avoid Cheaters ;))
http://www303.blibs.com/editor/working/12593514035272?493372976

Sorry about that, strange because when i posted it, it was 2 seperate photos.

Ahhh well, here is the image that was supposed to be there, Give it a go ;)

http://sonicbomb.com/albums/album51/Beriev_Bartini_VVA_14.jpg

Soviet Ace
11-28-2009, 08:27 PM
Sorry about that, strange because when i posted it, it was 2 seperate photos.

Ahhh well, here is the image that was supposed to be there, Give it a go ;)

http://sonicbomb.com/albums/album51/Beriev_Bartini_VVA_14.jpg

Haha, you had me fooled for a moment there. BUT, you can't fool a Soviet Ace. :P

Anyway, the answer is a Bartini VVA-14 Long-Rage Seaplane. It was supposed to be able to take off from the water, VTOL style, but failed because of the engines or something? My Encyclopedia of Soviet Aircraft is always good. ;)

kozzm0
11-28-2009, 11:40 PM
Are you sure about that? I mean Mossad stealing France's blueprints of the Mirage 3. Because I remember reading somewhere, that since France was supplying Israel with planes, tanks, and weapons (before the US took over as the main contributor,) they gave the Israeli's the Mirage 3 because it was becoming outdated for the French Air Force. And also, that's how they got other Mirage's like the IV and another early Mirage (by buying them, and then suiting them up for their own uses, not stealing the prints).

France did end up selling Mirage's to Israel, but at the time, Charles De Gaulle was refusing to sell them so they had to steal Mirage 3. It was being produced outside France, Switzerland if I remember right, and a Mossad agent managed to get ahold of several hundred copies of the design.

Wissam24
11-29-2009, 12:55 AM
But that's not a funny name

Spitfire23
11-29-2009, 01:20 AM
Haha, you had me fooled for a moment there. BUT, you can't fool a Soviet Ace. :P

Anyway, the answer is a Bartini VVA-14 Long-Rage Seaplane. It was supposed to be able to take off from the water, VTOL style, but failed because of the engines or something? My Encyclopedia of Soviet Aircraft is always good. ;)

Ahhh crap, i was hoping one of you russians didn't show up.

And yes that is correct and so is the information on it. God your good

Reminder to everyone: Dont bother posting russian planes, theres hardly any point, Right Soviet ;)

Soviet Ace
11-29-2009, 01:40 AM
Ahhh crap, i was hoping one of you russians didn't show up.

And yes that is correct and so is the information on it. God your good

Reminder to everyone: Dont bother posting russian planes, theres hardly any point, Right Soviet ;)

Well I do have like 10+ books all about Soviet planes from 1920s-1991. I don't know them all off hand, but I'm sure if you post a soviet plane, I'll be sure to find it somewhere in one of my books. ;) I actually wish I had one of those VVA-14 sea planes. It would be SWEEEET. :D

Spitfire23
11-29-2009, 01:52 AM
Well I do have like 10+ books all about Soviet planes from 1920s-1991. I don't know them all off hand, but I'm sure if you post a soviet plane, I'll be sure to find it somewhere in one of my books. ;) I actually wish I had one of those VVA-14 sea planes. It would be SWEEEET. :D

No bloody wonder! Your knowledge combined with 10+ books is enough for world domination.

And it really would be pretty amazing to own one of those, they look so unusual that most will think its a spacecraft :grin:

Soviet Ace
11-29-2009, 01:54 AM
No bloody wonder! Your knowledge combined with 10+ books is enough for world domination.

And it really would be pretty amazing to own one of those, they look so unusual that most will think its a spacecraft :grin:

LOL My knowledge, is those 10+ books. lol But its sinks in, so more knowledge can be given some room. :lol:

kozzm0
11-29-2009, 03:12 AM
But that's not a funny name

"Kfir" isn't a funny name?

I still don't even know how to pronounce it. There is a food called "kefir," but I don't know if it's pronounced like that, and even if it was, it would still sound funny.

Soviet Ace
11-29-2009, 06:15 PM
Here's an interesting plane.

http://ram-home.com/ram-old/mig-8-1-sh2p243a.jpg

flynlion
11-29-2009, 06:48 PM
MiG 8, also known as the "Duck".

Soviet Ace
11-29-2009, 07:15 PM
MiG 8, also known as the "Duck".

Cheater, looking at the URL. :P lol

flynlion
11-29-2009, 07:32 PM
Nope, never saw the URL, but I did cheat a little. At first I thought it might be a very early Rutan design, from before he got into composites. Then I remembered who posted the picture and knew it had to be Russian :-P
So I did a google for "Soviet Canard" and there it was LoL

flynlion
11-29-2009, 07:41 PM
Doesn't this one look fun?

Spitfire23
11-29-2009, 07:44 PM
Doesn't this one look fun?

It does indeed, a very sexy little plane i think.

Sandylowlead
11-30-2009, 01:52 PM
And here's my next one seeing as I got the 'flying dart' one...
http://i822.photobucket.com/albums/zz147/winistrone/Mysteryplane3.jpg

flying pancake^^

Sandylowlead
11-30-2009, 02:00 PM
http://i285.photobucket.com/albums/ll48/Ragenbeef/10422_101834856499000_1000001745977.jpg
This one is at my work^^ The hint is it's a "Corben"

Robotic Pope
11-30-2009, 02:44 PM
flying pancake^^

That pic is from WAAAY back in the thread and has since been reposted and answered on page 19.

Also Arn't Corben's kit planes. So every single plane is going to look slightly different? This one from the 30's.

Robotic Pope
11-30-2009, 03:07 PM
This one for getting the Sea Hornet and cluing the Walrus.

http://i49.tinypic.com/2hyxpoh.jpg

dkwookie
11-30-2009, 03:10 PM
That plane is from from Slipstream, flown to the sound of Then Jerichos Big Area
aka Optica OA7

Robotic Pope
11-30-2009, 03:34 PM
That plane is from from Slipstream, flown to the sound of Then Jerichos Big Area
aka Optica OA7

Yup its the Optica, a weird plane designed for slowness lol. Your turn.

Houndstone Hawk
11-30-2009, 03:38 PM
If im right then heres my pic
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/sa.jpg

Supermarine Attacker? Sorry just incase it's already been answered btw!

dkwookie
11-30-2009, 03:58 PM
ok pretty easy one
http://www.world-war-2-planes.com/images/Arado-Ar-232.jpg

Danny M NL
11-30-2009, 04:28 PM
what, a luftwaffe plane I've never seen before?! I call hax!!!!

edit: oh, it's an arado 232, you really should change the name of the pics before you host them :)

Danny M NL
11-30-2009, 04:39 PM
http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesp/aa4.jpg

Vulcan607
11-30-2009, 04:41 PM
Okay dont think this one will be too taxing on the the old grey matter
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/j.jpg



This one might be...
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/aa.jpg

Robotic Pope
11-30-2009, 04:57 PM
That one is very easy, Jet Provost. Not sure about the other.

Danny, is that a Me262 prototype with a prop.

flynlion
11-30-2009, 10:07 PM
I think Sandylowlead's is a Corben Babyace, an early "homebuilt" from the 1920's. You can still get plans and kits for 'em today, though it's very rare to see one with a radial engine nowadays. The one in the photo must be pretty old, and it still drips oil! Where do you work Sandy? Place looks pretty cool in the photo :cool:

Nobody wants to guess at mine? Hint: It's a homebuilt from the '70's.

Danny M NL
12-01-2009, 01:09 AM
Danny, is that a Me262 prototype with a prop.

nope...

Panzergranate
12-01-2009, 01:40 AM
Danny NL's is the Heinkel fighter, He-99, which was in competition with the Bf-109 for the role as principle Luftwaffe fighter, during the 1930's.

flynlion
12-02-2009, 08:18 AM
Danny NL's is the Heinkel fighter, He-99, which was in competition with the Bf-109 for the role as principle Luftwaffe fighter, during the 1930's.


Are you sure Panzer? The He-112 was a competitor with the Bf-109, and it was a tail-wheel plane. This one seems kinda odd with a nose gear up front sharing space with a big water-cooled engine, kinda wonder how it all fit. Maybe the nose wheel tucked up into the gap left by the inverted V? I can't find anything on the He-99 except that a few flew in Spain with the Condor Legion, no pictures. Now I'm curious to learn more about it....

P-51
12-02-2009, 03:08 PM
This one might be...
http://i206.photobucket.com/albums/bb288/linktriforcewarrior/aa.jpg

Is it a lightning prototype? P1.A or something? Maybe a Short SB.5?

Vulcan607
12-02-2009, 04:48 PM
Is it a lightning prototype? P1.A or something? Maybe a Short SB.5?

sorry but no.
Its the first entry in the 1959 edition of the obserbers book of aircraft

flynlion
12-03-2009, 07:32 AM
sorry but no.
Its the first entry in the 1959 edition of the obserbers book of aircraft

Well that certainly narrows it down LoL. To me it looks kinda like a Republic F-84 Thunderstreak, except the tail is wrong. What is it Vulcan?

Vulcan607
12-03-2009, 05:20 PM
Well that certainly narrows it down LoL. To me it looks kinda like a Republic F-84 Thunderstreak, except the tail is wrong. What is it Vulcan?

Aerfer Ariete
Italian Interceptor Figheter
Fitted with Rolls Royce engines
first flew march 27th 1958

Panzergranate
12-03-2009, 05:49 PM
Are you sure Panzer? The He-112 was a competitor with the Bf-109, and it was a tail-wheel plane. This one seems kinda odd with a nose gear up front sharing space with a big water-cooled engine, kinda wonder how it all fit. Maybe the nose wheel tucked up into the gap left by the inverted V? I can't find anything on the He-99 except that a few flew in Spain with the Condor Legion, no pictures. Now I'm curious to learn more about it....

I looks like the front wheel twists sideways, rather like on a P-36 and P-40, to fold up flat. The chances are that it could be one of the "Austerity / Desperation" built utility fighters towards the end of the war, when materials were in short supply.

Russia had the LaGG-1 and LaGG-3, Britain had the Miles M-20 amd Finland had the "Reckless" (A wooden copy of the Buffalo powered by an I-16 engine).

I find the "also flew" fighters and bombers more interesting than the more familiar fare.

The accounts of the many dogfights between HS-123 bi-plane fighters and Soviet I-15 bi-planes is one forgotten part of the 1941 invasion of Russia.

The Chinese ace, "Fatty" Chung, scored all his kills with the Vultee P-66 Vanguard, despite also flying the fast but clumsy P-43 Lancer, which the P-47 Thunderbolt is a bigger version of.

flynlion
12-03-2009, 06:21 PM
Aerfer Ariete
Italian Interceptor Figheter
Fitted with Rolls Royce engines
first flew march 27th 1958

Very cool :cool:
Here it is from a different angle, it looks much more "experimental" from the side.

flynlion
12-03-2009, 06:31 PM
I find the "also flew" fighters and bombers more interesting than the more familiar fare.


I agree. It's important to remember that for every success in aviation there are a hundred or more "failures". Those of us who have tried to make a living in the biz will certainly testify to that LoL

haitch40
12-04-2009, 02:28 PM
whats this?

Martinho
12-04-2009, 06:08 PM
tu-2

haitch40
12-05-2009, 09:09 AM
tu-2

well done

haitch40
12-05-2009, 09:11 AM
i want name of plane and maker

Vulcan607
12-05-2009, 11:59 AM
looks like a butchered Supermarine Sea plane in luftwaffe colours.
I would guess that its a Dornier but i dont know.

Vulcan607
12-05-2009, 12:02 PM
oh yes i do its a
Blohm and Voss BV 138

haitch40
12-05-2009, 12:56 PM
oh yes i do its a
Blohm and Voss BV 138

well done thought no1 would get that

haitch40
12-05-2009, 01:00 PM
last one i have in mind at moment

Vulcan607
12-05-2009, 02:37 PM
Name of both visible aircraft and their makers
http://richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/Museums/Duxford/BritishJets/Victor.jpg

Vulcan607
12-05-2009, 02:39 PM
last one i have in mind at moment

Martin Baltimore?

Araqiel
12-05-2009, 03:00 PM
The one in the foreground is a Handley-Page Victor, not sure about the other.

Vulcan607
12-05-2009, 03:36 PM
correct

Danny M NL
12-05-2009, 10:12 PM
Danny NL's is the Heinkel fighter, He-99, which was in competition with the Bf-109 for the role as principle Luftwaffe fighter, during the 1930's.

still wrong...

I'll tell, since everyone's moved on anyway... it was the me309.

flynlion
12-05-2009, 11:07 PM
still wrong...

I'll tell, since everyone's moved on anyway... it was the me309.

Good one Danny. From what I've read on the Me-309, some versions even had a pressurized cockpit for high altitude intercepts, very unusual for a single engined fighter. Problem was that all that extra stuff made it too heavy and performance suffered. Here's a diagram showing how the nose gear would lay flat up under that big engine:

flynlion
12-05-2009, 11:15 PM
So if anyone is still interested, the homebuilt I posted back on pg 30 is a "Mini-Imp" designed by Molt Taylor back in the 70's. It has a VW engine that sits just behind the cockpit and drives a tail mounted pusher prop through a drive shaft. I want one heheheh.

Araqiel
12-06-2009, 12:30 AM
As I got the Victor here's another:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/796/pic46my.jpg

flynlion
12-06-2009, 12:40 AM
Horten 229, very experimental.

Here's another pic of how it might have looked:

Araqiel
12-06-2009, 01:31 AM
Close, but no cigar.

haitch40
12-06-2009, 09:38 AM
Martin Baltimore?

nope

haitch40
12-06-2009, 09:39 AM
Horten 229, very experimental.

Here's another pic of how it might have looked:

who actualy made that plane? because some call it the gotha go229 and others the horten ho 229

P-51
12-06-2009, 10:47 AM
Avro Shackleton :D

Vulcan607
12-06-2009, 11:32 AM
big bucket oh win

Araqiel
12-06-2009, 12:25 PM
The Ho-229 was designed by the Horten brothers, but were it to enter production it would have been designated Go-229 owing to the fact that Horten didn't have any manufacturing plants of their own. The pic I posted isn't the 229 though; think bigger.

haitch40
12-06-2009, 03:38 PM
As I got the Victor here's another:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/796/pic46my.jpg

its the america bomber i dont know what its called designed to take off in germany and bomb new york

haitch40
12-06-2009, 03:39 PM
Avro Shackleton :D

no

Vulcan607
12-06-2009, 03:43 PM
no

I think he was responding to mine

haitch40
12-06-2009, 03:46 PM
I think he was responding to mine

oh lol

Vulcan607
12-06-2009, 04:10 PM
nah worrys

He-111
12-13-2009, 12:36 PM
http://blogfile.paran.com/BLOG_652420/200812/1228845883_FIAT_G91R_FAIRFORD_91_001.jpg

Anyone?

Just a hint this version is Portuguese Airforce.

haitch40
12-13-2009, 02:22 PM
http://blogfile.paran.com/BLOG_652420/200812/1228845883_FIAT_G91R_FAIRFORD_91_001.jpg

Anyone?

Just a hint this version is Portuguese Airforce.

F4 Phantom? im not sure realy

P-51
12-13-2009, 02:26 PM
F4 Phantom? im not sure realy

The phantom is the tail in the background
EDIT: Scrap that its folded wings... Lol

haitch40
12-13-2009, 02:27 PM
The phantom is the tail in the background

oh as you see im not that good on jets i like ww2 planes

FOZ_1983
12-13-2009, 03:30 PM
The phantom is the tail in the background
EDIT: Scrap that its folded wings... Lol

You were right the first time :D

it is a phantom in the background. If you look at the pic again theirs actually 3 planes in the pic. The fuselage you can see is not the phantoms, but the plane infront of it. So all you can actually see of the phantom is indeed the tail fin :D

the main plane in the pic is.... i've no idea! foriegn. The plane behind it..again i've no idea. But the plane furthest back is indeed a phantom and not folded wings :)


it belongs to the luftwaffe also (the phantom).

Vulcan607
12-13-2009, 03:41 PM
is it an Alpha Jet?

Vulcan607
12-13-2009, 03:44 PM
I have it ,tis

a Fiat G-91

Vulcan607
12-13-2009, 04:14 PM
http://www.royalnavy.mod.uk/upload/img_400/RAF_T_006794_20090213142443.jpg

FOZ_1983
12-13-2009, 04:48 PM
Hawker P.1127??

Pretty much the prototype for the harrier...

He-111
12-13-2009, 06:29 PM
I have it ,tis

a Fiat G-91

you're right

winny
12-13-2009, 06:46 PM
You were right the first time :D

it is a phantom in the background. If you look at the pic again theirs actually 3 planes in the pic. The fuselage you can see is not the phantoms, but the plane infront of it. So all you can actually see of the phantom is indeed the tail fin :D

the main plane in the pic is.... i've no idea! foriegn. The plane behind it..again i've no idea. But the plane furthest back is indeed a phantom and not folded wings :)


it belongs to the luftwaffe also (the phantom).

The one in the middle's a Lockheed Starfighter.. Tail's a dead giveaway.

Vulcan607
12-13-2009, 07:22 PM
Hawker P.1127??

Pretty much the prototype for the harrier...

Hawker Siddley but i will accept:grin:

He-111
12-13-2009, 09:30 PM
The one in the middle's a Lockheed Starfighter.. Tail's a dead giveaway.

And the side engine air intake

Robotic Pope
12-13-2009, 10:09 PM
http://blogfile.paran.com/BLOG_652420/200812/1228845883_FIAT_G91R_FAIRFORD_91_001.jpg

Anyone?

Just a hint this version is Portuguese Airforce.

Ah ha. I know this one. Its a Fiat G91. Its a basic copy of a F-86K sabre.

dkwookie
12-13-2009, 10:34 PM
http://blogfile.paran.com/BLOG_652420/200812/1228845883_FIAT_G91R_FAIRFORD_91_001.jpg

Anyone?

Just a hint this version is Portuguese Airforce.

Thats the funniest paintjob on a plane I have ever seen. They even painted little paws on the fuel pods/weapon pods.

Not sure of its merit as camoflage, cant be operational colours

FOZ_1983
12-13-2009, 10:41 PM
A few planes have wierd camo. Mostly for air shows and centenaries etc....


http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz16/FOZ1983/800px-German_Tornado_Formation_Flig.jpg

that boris becker on the back of one of them??

Wissam24
12-13-2009, 10:55 PM
They should make a plane with Leonidas kicking the Persian messenger on it. Then use it on the front lines. (No political comment intended, it's just an awesome bit regardless of nationality of the participants)

Spitfire23
12-14-2009, 12:16 AM
A few planes have wierd camo. Mostly for air shows and centenaries etc....


http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz16/FOZ1983/800px-German_Tornado_Formation_Flig.jpg

that boris becker on the back of one of them??

lol no i dont think thats him.

If only all modern jet had custom paint to suit the pilot, it would be one hell of a pretty dogfight

SgtPappy
12-14-2009, 01:11 AM
If only all modern jet had custom paint to suit the pilot, it would be one hell of a pretty dogfight

Too bad you'd never see it, being shot down by a missile fired from a plane 5 miles away. :-P

Spitfire23
12-14-2009, 01:26 AM
Too bad you'd never see it, being shot down by a missile fired from a plane 5 miles away. :-P

yup, you got that right :grin:

Robotic Pope
12-14-2009, 02:56 AM
For getting the Fiat, I ask what is this?

http://i47.tinypic.com/30u8h1k.jpg

Wissam24
12-14-2009, 03:34 AM
Oh, is it the Ching-Kuo or something?

Yes, the AIDC F-CK-1 Ching-kuo

Wissam24
12-14-2009, 03:45 AM
Here is my offering if it is right:

http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x70/Wissam24/PlaneL87.jpg

STINGERSIX78
12-14-2009, 06:02 AM
Curtiss-Wright X-19

STINGERSIX78
12-14-2009, 06:18 AM
http://simflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/German-VSTOL.jpg

try this one.

FOZ_1983
12-14-2009, 06:51 AM
http://simflight.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/11/German-VSTOL.jpg

try this one.



EWR VJ 101??

a german experimental VTOL.

STINGERSIX78
12-14-2009, 06:55 AM
EWR VJ 101??

a german experimental VTOL.

excellent. ^^

STINGERSIX78
12-14-2009, 07:58 AM
too easy ? take this...
http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/113643.jpg

stealth finger
12-14-2009, 08:33 AM
^^^the result of one too many nazi sex and drugs parties at luftwaffe high command?

STINGERSIX78
12-14-2009, 09:06 AM
^^ lol. max mosleys idea ^^

flynlion
12-14-2009, 04:57 PM
too easy ? take this...
http://www.strangemilitary.com/images/content/113643.jpg

Blohm and Voss BV-141

Soviet Ace
12-14-2009, 05:42 PM
How about this... anyone?

http://www.pilotfriend.com/photo_albums/images16/33.jpg

Wissam24
12-14-2009, 06:02 PM
Fokker DXXI

Soviet Ace
12-14-2009, 06:33 PM
Fokker DXXI

Yep. That was an easy one. :P

Wissam24
12-14-2009, 06:41 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x70/Wissam24/B52Stratofortress.jpg

Hint: it has the most powerful jet engines fitted to a plane, would regularly break the sound barrier on the runway, was armed with 22 AA missiles and could fly at 143,000ft

Ancient Seraph
12-14-2009, 07:15 PM
Hint: it has the most powerful jet engines fitted to a plane, would regularly break the sound barrier on the runway, was armed with 22 AA missiles and could fly at 143,000ft

Hmm, that sounds like a plane from AC6..

House MD 221B
12-14-2009, 07:46 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Northrop_P-61_green_airborne.jpg

xNikex
12-14-2009, 07:59 PM
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/2/2c/Northrop_P-61_green_airborne.jpg

Northrop P-61 Black Widow

xNikex
12-14-2009, 08:03 PM
http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesg/ab32.jpg

Hint: It was Germany's version of the B-29 Superfortress.

P-51
12-14-2009, 08:19 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x70/Wissam24/B52Stratofortress.jpg

Hint: it has the most powerful jet engines fitted to a plane, would regularly break the sound barrier on the runway, was armed with 22 AA missiles and could fly at 143,000ft

You missed the nuke capability! :P

He-111
12-14-2009, 08:34 PM
http://rareaircraf1.greyfalcon.us/picturesg/ab32.jpg

Hint: It was Germany's version of the B-29 Superfortress.

Me 264, one of the Amerika bomber prototypes.

Robotic Pope
12-14-2009, 09:59 PM
House, I think you win the prize for biggest picture ever on a forum. lol I had no hope of answering it with only a tiny part of the plane visible at any one time.

Soviet Ace
12-14-2009, 10:06 PM
@Wissam: I think that is a French Breguet from the 1920s or 30s? Not sure though, but that radiator makes me think it is. :D

Wissam24
12-14-2009, 11:38 PM
@Wissam: I think that is a French Breguet from the 1920s or 30s? Not sure though, but that radiator makes me think it is. :D

Nope.

Soviet Ace
12-15-2009, 12:35 AM
Nope.

Are you sure? I could have sworn that radiator was from a Breguet of some kind? Guess I'll have to keep looking. :cool:

STINGERSIX78
12-15-2009, 09:10 AM
hmmmm.... no Breguet Bre.19 ?? or a SABCA, Super Bidon variant?

Wissam24
12-15-2009, 01:19 PM
Nope neither of those.

STINGERSIX78
12-15-2009, 02:36 PM
a tip pls.

a vought biplane? maybe with an Breguet engine?

Wissam24
12-15-2009, 02:41 PM
a tip pls.

a vought biplane? maybe with an Breguet engine?

Nope. Think Spain

STINGERSIX78
12-15-2009, 03:05 PM
i noticed the flag. but its not a casa. ?

wait... hispano have contracts with the french.
....
ok, 1 quit.... :(

Panzergranate
12-15-2009, 04:06 PM
The large partial picture is of a Northrop P-61 "Black Widdow" night fighter.

The bi-plane has a Fokker D-V tail, Armstrong-Wittworth Siskin wings and a propellor that looks like its from a Hawker Fury.

The undercarriage also looks the same as on a Siskin too.

I'm think that its a Dutch Fokker D-VII, D-VIII or D-IX maybe??

Soviet Ace
12-15-2009, 04:21 PM
http://i184.photobucket.com/albums/x70/Wissam24/B52Stratofortress.jpg

Hint: it has the most powerful jet engines fitted to a plane, would regularly break the sound barrier on the runway, was armed with 22 AA missiles and could fly at 143,000ft

Ok, so after searching and searching through french planes. I couldn't really find anything that matched. BUT then, before you had even said anything about Spain. I forgot, I had over looked the tail, which had a sort of WW2 Nieuport 28-esque tail to it (at least to me). SO, I searched and searched through my book on Spanish Civil War planes, and came up with this!!!


NIEUPORT-DELAGE NiD 52 :D


(Also, just for fun. I want one of these Nieuports. THEY SEEM SOOO COOL!!!! I'm now even MORE interested in Republican fighters of the SCW)

STINGERSIX78
12-15-2009, 04:36 PM
jup...

Wissam24
12-15-2009, 04:43 PM
Well done. I'm glad I finally found one that even the Great Ace himself didn't know

Vulcan607
12-15-2009, 05:23 PM
Brewster Buccaneer/Bermuda

Panzergranate
12-15-2009, 05:27 PM
Try this one.....

The US Navy's first all metal mono-plane Torpedo and Scout back in 1933.

Top speed 220 MPH.

850 HP engine.

Served until 1941.

Designed by Dayton Brown.

Only 29 built under licence by another company and not by the original designers.

Vulcan607
12-15-2009, 05:36 PM
Naval Aircraft Factory SBN

Panzergranate
12-15-2009, 05:40 PM
Correct!!

It was Brewster's only reliable aircraft..... because they never actually built it.

Vulcan607
12-15-2009, 05:48 PM
Correct!!

It was Brewster's only reliable aircraft..... because they never actually built it.

Lol.
http://www.aviafrance.com/image.php?im=7352

Spitfire23
12-15-2009, 05:56 PM
Lol.
http://www.aviafrance.com/image.php?im=7352

Ive no idea what that thing is but she is one hell of a pretty one ;)

Vulcan607
12-15-2009, 06:02 PM
Ive no idea what that thing is but she is one hell of a pretty one ;)

Not a patch on the Spit or Vulcan though.

Spitfire23
12-15-2009, 06:05 PM
Not a patch on the Spit or Vulcan though.

Oh definately not, ^that one^ is pretty but definately isnt as pretty as the Spit and Vulcan

Panzergranate
12-15-2009, 06:27 PM
This was a prototype jet chaser in 1944 and saw some service during the late 1940's, after the war had finished.

Powered by the Rolls-Royce Griffon engine.

Top speed was 492 MPH in level flight.

This is the world's second fastest ever piston engined aircraft, the Martin-Baker MB-5 being quicker at 520 MPH.

There was also a jet powered version.

Vulcan607
12-15-2009, 06:28 PM
Spiteful
Jet became Supermarine Attacker

STINGERSIX78
12-16-2009, 03:00 PM
name this wreck... ^^

http://cellar.org/2006/folkewulf.jpg

Vulcan607
12-16-2009, 03:04 PM
Fokerwolf of some description

STINGERSIX78
12-16-2009, 03:06 PM
right fw190.
too easy? ^^

Vulcan607
12-16-2009, 03:16 PM
http://www.aviafrance.com/image.php?im=7352

Still looking for this one
and now
http://propliners.com/groupee_files/attachments/2/7/5/2751022442/2751022442_AZ8-L.jpg?ts=4B290796&key=C596B84AEFAAC5884420D1D835C4F011&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fpropliners.com%2Feve%2Fforum s%2Fa%2Fga%2Ful%2F3751022442%2FAZ8-L.jpg

stealth finger
12-16-2009, 03:21 PM
and now
http://propliners.com/groupee_files/attachments/2/7/5/2751022442/2751022442_AZ8-L.jpg?ts=4B290796&key=C596B84AEFAAC5884420D1D835C4F011&referrer=http%3A%2F%2Fpropliners.com%2Feve%2Fforum s%2Fa%2Fga%2Ful%2F3751022442%2FAZ8-L.jpg

is it just me or does that nose look like a concordes. only less pointy

Vulcan607
12-16-2009, 03:25 PM
is it just me or does that nose look like a concordes. only less pointy

Nose is alot more rounded than it appears in that picture

STINGERSIX78
12-16-2009, 04:31 PM
the 1. picture.
small bomber or recon ?
at least, its a french airforce plane.

Vulcan607
12-16-2009, 04:46 PM
Liason/Close support.
Et oui cest Francais
(apologies for my probably poor French)

olife
12-16-2009, 05:44 PM
Liason/Close support.
Et oui cest Francais
(apologies for my probably poor French)

NO APOLOGIES
i m french and i know how french language is difficult
it is good from u

STINGERSIX78
12-16-2009, 05:47 PM
i quit. for now...

Vulcan607
12-16-2009, 06:26 PM
wow i acctually remember something from my french gcse

STINGERSIX78
12-17-2009, 03:11 AM
shut up... ^^

Vulcan607
12-17-2009, 03:15 PM
^^ what?

STINGERSIX78
12-17-2009, 05:11 PM
leave me alone, with this ugly plane... ^^
i wasted almost 2h, to spotted plane pics from breguet, french airforce, french navy, close support, recon, de haviland, vought, twin engined, and so on...
couldn t u post an easier plane ? like bf109 ??^^

and this was only the 1. pic.... ^^

Vulcan607
12-17-2009, 05:24 PM
Aww, those are quite difficult i guess, still leaving them up for grabs but here is a nice easy one http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/40030000/jpg/_40030658_canberra_203.jpg

STINGERSIX78
12-17-2009, 05:39 PM
ha !!! this is a trap !!!!!
i should thinking this is a gloster meteor !! but for real its certainly a prototype from the austrian navy. a carrier heavy jump-bomber.
got u....

btw. why are the engines so small?

STINGERSIX78
12-17-2009, 05:41 PM
cause. its the canberra ....
omfg... im a nooob.... lol ^^
ok. i go playing silent hunter...

FOZ_1983
12-17-2009, 05:45 PM
cause. its the canberra ....
omfg... im a nooob.... lol ^^
ok. i go playing silent hunter...

lol. Made me chuckle.

Vulcan607
12-17-2009, 05:52 PM
yeah ee camberra.
I love silent hunter cant wait for number 5

STINGERSIX78
12-17-2009, 05:57 PM
i was realy thinkink, this is the gloster meteor . but these small engines ...
then i was remembering the canberra. ^^

flynlion
12-17-2009, 06:11 PM
i was realy thinkink, this is the gloster meteor . but these small engines ...
then i was remembering the canberra. ^^

The engines on the Canberra are not small....the wing is BIG. I've always thought the Canberra was extremely good lookin' and bad-assed :cool: It flew with the RAF until 2006 and a handful are still in service today with various other nations. Gotta love that.

STINGERSIX78
12-17-2009, 06:29 PM
http://www.aviationphoto.co.uk/Pictures/Air%20Atlantique%20Gloster%20Meteor%20TT.20%20disp layed%20by%20Brian%20Grant%20Kemble%20Airshow%2020 06.jpghttp://elshamwolds.50g.com/Resources/canberra1.jpeg

very beautiful planes...

FOZ_1983
12-17-2009, 06:59 PM
until recently i always saw the canberra flying over my house, it was easy to spot as it has huge wings and they were black and yellow!! was a pretty sight.

Now i just get buzzed by the damn eurofighter typhoon every 20 seconds!! night and day.

stealth finger
12-17-2009, 07:03 PM
Where do you live?

They say there's a shortage of choppers in Afgahistan, there's loads where I live (no less than 3 army bases in close proximity) see chinooks all the time.

Vulcan607
12-17-2009, 07:06 PM
ah but they wont be cleared for health and safety abroad or something stupid like that

Robotic Pope
12-17-2009, 07:30 PM
The engines on the Canberra are not small....the wing is BIG. I've always thought the Canberra was extremely good lookin' and bad-assed :cool: It flew with the RAF until 2006 and a handful are still in service today with various other nations. Gotta love that.

Actually the engines on the canberra ARE thinner than the Meteors. The Canberra was the first British plane to use axial flow engines as opposed to the Meteors old centifugal engines.

STINGERSIX78
12-17-2009, 07:43 PM
uhmm.
we have to name 2 more planes ^^

FOZ_1983
12-17-2009, 07:45 PM
Where do you live?

They say there's a shortage of choppers in Afgahistan, there's loads where I live (no less than 3 army bases in close proximity) see chinooks all the time.

Im in blackpool, but also next to warton aerodrome which is an assembly and testing place for RAF planes.

Robotic Pope
12-17-2009, 07:58 PM
uhmm.
we have to name 2 more planes ^^

Well here is one.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1688mjd.jpg

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 02:18 AM
ouragan ?
Lockheed T33 Shooting Star?

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 05:31 AM
ouragan ?
Lockheed T33 Shooting Star?

That's a good choice. I would have said something along the lines of say a P/F-80. But that would have been my second choice. :D

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 07:52 AM
but the Lockheed have the jet outtake near the tail end... :(

InfiniteStates
12-18-2009, 09:55 AM
They say there's a shortage of choppers in Afgahistan, there's loads where I live (no less than 3 army bases in close proximity) see chinooks all the time.
I got some insider intel on this, if you're interested... ;)

The majority of our Chinooks are currently grounded from combat operations thanks to software. You see it's a rule that the software for primary and secondary systems have to be developed by different companies, as then it is highly unlikely that the same bugs or problems will be present in both systems. So if one fails you can be reasonably sure the back-up will function.

But it turns out that the guys that did some of the software for primary and back-up systems both went to the same university and learned the same things from the same teachers, so make the same design mistakes. I don't know what the systems were or how many of them there are. Could be just one system, could be all of them... But whatever - a lot of Chinooks are grounded.


P.S: now I have an opportunity to post in here without being off-topic I can finally congratulate you on keeping a thread on topic and civil for soooo many pages. WP ;)

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 12:04 PM
Well here is one.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1688mjd.jpg

looks like its in a anti nuclear flash scheme, i would say TSR2 but its the wrong shape.

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 01:14 PM
Got me stumped!!

look how far back the wings are, narrows down the possibilities a bit, then you have the colour scheme.....

I have no idea. Its been rattling my brain for some time but i've not got the foggiest. Each time i think of something i then see the pic and realise it isnt what i was thinking because it has a unique shape to it.

Spitfire23
12-18-2009, 01:39 PM
to me it has the look of a lockheed but i just cannot say which one.

Its gotta be a lockheed surely lol

P-51
12-18-2009, 02:31 PM
Looks like a TS-11 Iskra?

olife
12-18-2009, 03:04 PM
Well here is one.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1688mjd.jpg

f104 starfighter?

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 03:39 PM
Well here is one.

http://i46.tinypic.com/1688mjd.jpg

Hmm bit vicker vallenty but is to small
Blackburn Buccaneer?

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 04:10 PM
North American (Rockwell) T-2 Buckeye ?

Robotic Pope
12-18-2009, 04:16 PM
nope none of those. Vulcan is on the right track though. It is british.

http://i49.tinypic.com/103wxtl.jpg

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 04:32 PM
Saunders-Roe SR.53 !!!

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 04:43 PM
Saunders-Roe SR.53 !!!


He's right. On display in cosford??

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 05:08 PM
He's right. On display in cosford??

Yes is at Cosford

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 05:14 PM
http://www.targeta.co.uk/images/062_3194ww5.jpg

name this planes..

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 05:20 PM
Soviets?

Robotic Pope
12-18-2009, 05:51 PM
are they old SU-25's ?

no, now I don't think they are.

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 05:55 PM
http://www.targeta.co.uk/images/062_3194ww5.jpg

name this planes..

Wouldn't happen to be Mirage IIIs or IVs would they?

are they old SU-25's ?

no, now I don't think they are.

Su-25s usually have a hump back behind the cockpit. :D

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 06:00 PM
http://www.aviafrance.com/image.php?im=7352[/QUOTE]

sud aviation voltigeur ??

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 06:01 PM
Wouldn't happen to be Mirage IIIs or IVs would they?



Su-25s usually have a hump back behind the cockpit. :D

no russian planes. but a little bit east seems ok... :)

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 06:04 PM
no russian planes.

Mirage's are French actually. Not Russian. :)

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 06:06 PM
Mirage's are French actually. Not Russian. :)



sure.
i was looking at the "Su-25"... :)

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 06:08 PM
im not so sure it is a mirage... could be wrong though.

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 06:13 PM
no mirage. Warsaw Pact plane.

Spitfire23
12-18-2009, 06:13 PM
He's right. On display in cosford??Yes is at Cosford


Ahh cool, i live next to Cosford :grin:

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 06:15 PM
No they're not Mirage's. Figured that out because I figured, they had to be some kind of Eastern European nation. Which during the cold war (which these jets seem to be from) all had that Soviet-esque look. Well they may not be directly Soviet produced, constructed, or planned out. But they are Eastern European. Which leaves me to my conclusion of calling them the Romanian IAR-93B

Which miraculously, wouldn't be such a bad jet to try and fly. I think, it was actually one of Romania's last home grown jets because afterwards, they mainly stuck with Soviet ingenuity like the MiG-21, MiG-25, etc.

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 06:22 PM
No they're not Mirage's. Figured that out because I figured, they had to be some kind of Eastern European nation. Which during the cold war (which these jets seem to be from) all had that Soviet-esque look. Well they may not be directly Soviet produced, constructed, or planned out. But they are Eastern European. Which leaves me to my conclusion of calling them the Romanian IAR-93B

Which miraculously, wouldn't be such a bad jet to try and fly. I think, it was actually one of Romania's last home grown jets because afterwards, they mainly stuck with Soviet ingenuity like the MiG-21, MiG-25, etc.


ding ding sing we got a winner!! :D

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 06:22 PM
http://www.aviafrance.com/image.php?im=7352

sud aviation voltigeur ??[/QUOTE]

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER!

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 06:25 PM
@ soviet ace
100% correct !! your turn.

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 06:29 PM
sud aviation voltigeur ??

DING DING DING WE HAVE A WINNER![/QUOTE]

but i find it at: french recon planes... :)
was a very difficulty search... ^^

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 06:31 PM
Ok, here's mine. Obviously I would have to put something like this up, (I'm Soviet Ace, I mean come on! :P) Anyway, here it is.

http://www.targeta.co.uk/images/051_7576w5.jpg

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 06:32 PM
only going from the info i had.

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 06:37 PM
Ok, here's mine. Obviously I would have to put something like this up, (I'm Soviet Ace, I mean come on! :P) Anyway, here it is.

http://www.targeta.co.uk/images/051_7576w5.jpg


hahaha, cutting edge soviet technology :P made me laugh

He-111
12-18-2009, 07:00 PM
Ok, here's mine. Obviously I would have to put something like this up, (I'm Soviet Ace, I mean come on! :P) Anyway, here it is.

http://www.targeta.co.uk/images/051_7576w5.jpg

Ilyushin Il-28?

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 07:04 PM
i think, the wings are different...

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 07:04 PM
Ilyushin Il-28?

Nope. Good guess though, I probably would have said the same off hand the first time.

He-111
12-18-2009, 07:06 PM
Nope. Good guess though, I probably would have said the same off hand the first time.

I've just noticed it dosen't have the tail gunner...

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 07:12 PM
Ilyushin Il-28 RT ?

nooo...
il-30

He-111
12-18-2009, 07:13 PM
Ok, here's mine. Obviously I would have to put something like this up, (I'm Soviet Ace, I mean come on! :P) Anyway, here it is.

http://www.targeta.co.uk/images/051_7576w5.jpg

Got it! Yak-28

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:14 PM
I actually thought it was the Yak-25 at first.

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:16 PM
he says yak 28, well i'll go with the yak 27 :D

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:18 PM
though i was just saying that to be different, i think he's right with yak 28 :D

He-111
12-18-2009, 07:19 PM
he says yak 28, well i'll go with the yak 27 :D

Both are very similar

STINGERSIX78
12-18-2009, 07:21 PM
hmmm, product-piracy ??
the il-30 looks identical too. :)

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 07:22 PM
Got it! Yak-28

very good, you're right it is the Yak-28. ;)

Would have put up a Yak-27, but I figured it would have been to obvious to call it a Yak-28. :P Anyway, your turn He-111.

Also, here's a complimentary Yak-25 picture. :)

http://www.aviation.ru/Yak/Yak-25.jpg

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:22 PM
Both are very similar

yup, though isnt the 27 slightly smaller? never really took much notice of soviet aircraft since they are inferior to anything the west can put up :D :P (for soviets benefit) haha

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 07:26 PM
yup, though isnt the 27 slightly smaller? never really took much notice of soviet aircraft since they are inferior to the Hawker Hurricane :D :P (for soviets benefit) haha

Fixed:grin:

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 07:26 PM
hmmm, product-piracy ??
the il-30 looks identical too. :)

Most Soviet planes, all have similar qualities. Some even have the same body, just different size or maybe engine difference. Something, that's not quite noticeable.

yup, though isnt the 27 slightly smaller? never really took much notice of soviet aircraft since they are inferior to anything the west can put up :D :P (for soviets benefit) haha

Yeah yeah, say what you like. But we all know, that with Soviet ingenuity, Soviets can pump out twice as many fighters/bombers etc. than any Western nation. :D That's what makes them so great. And the simplicity that is put into them, is just amazing. hahahaha

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:28 PM
Knew that was coming hahaha.

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 07:29 PM
Yeah yeah, say what you like. But we all know, that with Soviet ingenuity, Soviets can pump out twice as many fighters/bombers etc. than any Western nation. :D That's what makes them so great. And the simplicity that is put into them, is just amazing. hahahaha

Great more targets for western fighters.

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:32 PM
must admit though, the SU33 is my preffered method of flight when playing over-g :D

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 07:36 PM
must admit though, the SU33 is my preffered method of flight when playing over-g :D

yeah some wise bloke told me that but i cant remember for the life of me who it was:-P

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:39 PM
yeah some wise bloke told me that but i cant remember for the life of me who it was:-P

If you want to take out a base in one go - thats your plane!!

i should of followed you in, watched you release all bombs etc :( i failed you as a wingman i think because not alot of damage was being done. Was the right set up on your SU33, but between take off and attacking target something wasn't quite right but i dont know what :( sorry mate.

Wanted you to destroy targets to get your score up etc while at the same time making the game quite quick. Next time we'll sort it.

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 07:43 PM
If you want to take out a base in one go - thats your plane!!

i should of followed you in, watched you release all bombs etc :( i failed you as a wingman i think because not alot of damage was being done. Was the right set up on your SU33, but between take off and attacking target something wasn't quite right but i dont know what :( sorry mate.

Wanted you to destroy targets to get your score up etc while at the same time making the game quite quick. Next time we'll sort it.
dont sweat it any advice is good advice.
I think it was because i was level bombing not diving and then when i dived i dived too steep

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:47 PM
Ah right, yup that will be it :D

level bombing seems a bit strage in the SU33 (only plane ive really bombed in) because the bombs wont go where the target reticule is. Must be a knack to it but i dont speak russian so have no idea what my computer lady is saying haha.

Best bet is come in from height and dive down (not a vertical dive) but close to a vertical dive and then from a good height release all your bombs, the second they are relased then level out and head for home. If you get a lock on then turn away from it and just head for home at great speed. The speed you generate from the dive will be good enough to get you away from the missile.

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 07:50 PM
Wait, why are you two using the Su-33; which is the Russian version of the American F-14 too bomb? (Not really, but both are made with the same idea of protect carriers. The Su-33 is just a Su-27 that is carrier capable. :D)

He-111
12-18-2009, 07:53 PM
I don't if this one is going to be hard

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/43/Bundesarchiv_Bild_101I-363-2270-18%2C_Frankreich%2C_Flugzeug_Me_210.jpg

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 07:56 PM
Me 210

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 07:56 PM
Wait, why are you two using the Su-33; which is the Russian version of the American F-14 too bomb? (Not really, but both are made with the same idea of protect carriers. The Su-33 is just a Su-27 that is carrier capable. :D)

Because in over-g (you played it?) each plane has its countries weapons, and where the F14 can carry four 2000kg bombs the SU33 can carry a hell of alot more!! the SU33 is a superb bombing platform, it carries a huge amount of bombs. The SU27 on the other hand - garbage. It seems better for air to air than air to ground and cant carry half as much as the SU33.

This is all in over-g btw.

The superior planes for bombing ground targets i found were -

SU33
F15E (think it was the E, theirs about 4 models in over-g)

Vulcan607
12-18-2009, 07:58 PM
i still prefer the Saabs because of there sheer agility, sure they cant carry a big payload but by god they can fly.

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 08:01 PM
i still prefer the Saabs because of there sheer agility, sure they cant carry a big payload but by god they can fly.

For such a little plane you'd be amazed at what they can carry in over-g :D

Soviet Ace
12-18-2009, 08:05 PM
Because in over-g (you played it?) each plane has its countries weapons, and where the F14 can carry four 2000kg bombs the SU33 can carry a hell of alot more!! the SU33 is a superb bombing platform, it carries a huge amount of bombs. The SU27 on the other hand - garbage. It seems better for air to air than air to ground and cant carry half as much as the SU33.

This is all in over-g btw.

The superior planes for bombing ground targets i found were -

SU33
F15E (think it was the E, theirs about 4 models in over-g)

Hmm, interesting? No I've not played Over-G, but maybe I should start too. Both of the Su-27/33 should be superb air-to-air jets, but the Su-33 shouldn't be very air-to-ground friendly. I mean, not that it's not capable of carrying bombs, but it's should be modeled to be more air-to-air like the Su-27. If they want a good ex-Soviet air-to-ground jet, they should have gotten a Su-25 or something. Most Su's are air-to-air jets. Like the MiGs. But most MiGs now, besides the 29/35, are high altitude interceptors ie MiG-25/31 etc.

Russia has kinda taken the stance of heavy bombing and 'dogfighting' rather ground attack like the American A-10 or something along those lines. Though I do think, that there are still a couple of Su-25s still being used by the Russians?

He-111
12-18-2009, 08:07 PM
Me 210

Impressive, most impressive.

your turn

FOZ_1983
12-18-2009, 08:14 PM
Hmm, interesting? No I've not played Over-G, but maybe I should start too. Both of the Su-27/33 should be superb air-to-air jets, but the Su-33 shouldn't be very air-to-ground friendly. I mean, not that it's not capable of carrying bombs, but it's should be modeled to be more air-to-air like the Su-27. If they want a good ex-Soviet air-to-ground jet, they should have gotten a Su-25 or something. Most Su's are air-to-air jets. Like the MiGs. But most MiGs now, besides the 29/35, are high altitude interceptors ie MiG-25/31 etc.

Russia has kinda taken the stance of heavy bombing and 'dogfighting' rather ground attack like the American A-10 or something along those lines. Though I do think, that there are still a couple of Su-25s still being used by the Russians?

The SU33 in over-g is a good all rounder, though when it comes to air to air i prefer to use the F15 or the F14 with phoenix and amraam missiles. Though the F22 it the best air to air but takes alot of fun out of flying due to the fact its practically invincible.

The russian planes in over g are -

mig 29g
mig 29s
mig 29a (luftwaffe colours)

su 27
su 27 (russian knights colours)

su 33

stealth finger
12-18-2009, 08:35 PM
The SU33 in over-g is a good all rounder,

It's the best plane after the 22. It can take a ton of missiles, and is one of the few with mid range IR missiles and thanks to being able to take 4 1500kg bombs its one of the few "1 run" jets, meaning it can destroy a symbol tower in 1 pass. It really is pretty much the best at everything after the 22

And the cannon on it is a beast!

edit as over g has hi jacked this thread, name these planes (well they dont have a name but what are they?)

Robotic Pope
12-19-2009, 12:03 AM
Its a plane made by a child in their pottery class ?

FOZ_1983
12-19-2009, 12:16 AM
Erm.... something you get inside a kinder egg?


Not to east to tell what they are to be honest.

STINGERSIX78
12-19-2009, 06:52 AM
a plane from Chitzen Itza. Quimbaya culture. insect in gold.
on display in the Smithsonian Institute in Washington DC.
but i think it is a fake.

STINGERSIX78
12-19-2009, 07:25 AM
name this plane

...http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3299341007_ee2c4d6591.jpg

haitch40
12-19-2009, 09:09 AM
name this plane

...http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3299341007_ee2c4d6591.jpg

its not a plane its a shipwreck with barnicals
serious though no idea

Vulcan607
12-19-2009, 09:29 AM
name this plane

...http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3555/3299341007_ee2c4d6591.jpg

Ju 87?

FOZ_1983
12-19-2009, 09:34 AM
Ju 87?

Thats what i would of said at first, a JU87 due to that long engine. Failing that... maybe one of the italian planes?

Vulcan607
12-19-2009, 09:47 AM
Thats what i would of said at first, a JU87 due to that long engine. Failing that... maybe one of the italian planes?

i was looking at the shape of the cockpit and the wing root. seems to be quite thick.

FOZ_1983
12-19-2009, 10:00 AM
i was looking at the shape of the cockpit and the wing root. seems to be quite thick.

I agree, and the fact that the exhaust ports are along the bottom of the engine. Does suggest it to be a JU87

Vulcan607
12-19-2009, 11:09 AM
for getting the 210 here is mine
http://aircraft-planet.com/wp-content/gallery/air-museum-belgrade/soko-jastreb-museum-belgrade.jpg

STINGERSIX78
12-19-2009, 11:33 AM
Thats what i would of said at first, a JU87 due to that long engine. Failing that... maybe one of the italian planes?

exactly. stuka...
the only one in germany... hmmm. ^^

haitch40
12-19-2009, 11:37 AM
for getting the 210 here is mine
http://aircraft-planet.com/wp-content/gallery/air-museum-belgrade/soko-jastreb-museum-belgrade.jpg

p80 starfighter