Still no patch for xbox360=game dieing

[MrHemlocks]

Please, speed up that patch...if there even is one. For this game is dieing FAST. It is dieing faster then the MC202 during a dogfight match! There has got to be someway to make this game as popular as the PC version. Sad, when at peek hours there are less then 10 players in multiply:(:(:(

[Irishmandkg]

I did not buy this game for mp, I bought it for the sp and the authentic ww2 plane action. Mp isn't my thing, so the online dying part isn't a big deal for me as long as we get ample sp dlc and a new patch. The online will be dead in about a month anyway with the release of codmw2. I won't be buying cod, but 14 million other people will.

[By-Tor]

Yes-I couldnt agree more. I gave up playing for awhile until the patch fixes the dead-zone issue. I even 'bought the kids' a PS3 so I could use my PC joystick and the new stick customization.
The lack of info lately from the makers is worrying me greatly. I may have to upigrade my computer and just fly IL2 on PC instead.
Ohh well, I had such high expectations-and most of them were met!. Dead-zone and lack of audible stall clue kills this for me as I am a knife-fighter. Sigh

[Soviet Ace]

Yes-I couldnt agree more. I gave up playing for awhile until the patch fixes the dead-zone issue. I even 'bought the kids' a PS3 so I could use my PC joystick and the new stick customization.
The lack of info lately from the makers is worrying me greatly. I may have to upigrade my computer and just fly IL2 on PC instead.
Ohh well, I had such high expectations-and most of them were met!. Dead-zone and lack of audible stall clue kills this for me as I am a knife-fighter. Sigh

You've been playing WAY to much HAWX and Ace Combat, haven't you. ;)

[caphead]

Yes-I couldnt agree more. I gave up playing for awhile until the patch fixes the dead-zone issue. I even 'bought the kids' a PS3 so I could use my PC joystick and the new stick customization.
The lack of info lately from the makers is worrying me greatly. I may have to upigrade my computer and just fly IL2 on PC instead.
Ohh well, I had such high expectations-and most of them were met!. Dead-zone and lack of audible stall clue kills this for me as I am a knife-fighter. Sigh

just bought 1946 on steam today for $9.99 (cant find my orig disk).. screw it! done waiting.. I missed taking off anyways!, I missed the mission builder too, I missed seeing cockpits for bf109's and such, WOW i forgot how many planes this game has! I missed engine managment, I missed having a rudder that would work..

[GabeFan]

I did not buy this game for mp, I bought it for the sp and the authentic ww2 plane action. Mp isn't my thing, so the online dying part isn't a big deal for me as long as we get ample sp dlc and a new patch...

+1 I agree 100%.

It seems like most people bought this game for the Single Person experience as did I. Just because people aren't playing it online doesn't mean the game is near death...

[flying buick]

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Sorry, can someone explain what is SO important about this patch that not having completely ruins the game?

I don't have a gold live account yet, so I haven't been online. Mainly been playing single missions, campaign, and training and I'm having a blast.

Soooo, are the issues only in MP or something?
The only obvious problems I can think of are the missing cockpits and something about correct mapping for flight sticks.

[mattd27]

???
Sorry, can someone explain what is SO important about this patch that not having completely ruins the game?

I don't have a gold live account yet, so I haven't been online. Mainly been playing single missions, campaign, and training and I'm having a blast.

Soooo, are the issues only in MP or something?
The only obvious problems I can think of are the missing cockpits and something about correct mapping for flight sticks.
1. The P-51 and 190 have been reduced to flying school buses, this will be fixed after the patch (at least for the P-51, the 190 is questionable)
2. The huge issue with players crashing to avoid kills in MP will be fixed.

Those are the two main reasons, check out the dev's forum for more info on all that's coming in the patch. ;)

[Soviet Ace]

???
Sorry, can someone explain what is SO important about this patch that not having completely ruins the game?

I don't have a gold live account yet, so I haven't been online. Mainly been playing single missions, campaign, and training and I'm having a blast.

Soooo, are the issues only in MP or something?
The only obvious problems I can think of are the missing cockpits and something about correct mapping for flight sticks.

This patch should correct the flight mechanics of many planes, that are screwed up. (Right, that's what we're all whining about now, right?) :P

[flying buick]

Ohhhhh of course. The P51. Completely forgot about that.

But WOW!
People kill themselves in order to avoid letting the other player get their rightful kill?
Cowardice and such unsportsmanship. But hopefully the patch'll be out by mid-December when I'll get live and finally take to the skies with other people and not the shenanigan-pulling AI.

[caphead]

This patch should correct the flight mechanics of many planes, that are screwed up. (Right, that's what we're all whining about now, right?) :P

nope i know this is a 360 thread but my gripe is the following for ps3

1)need to be able to remap controls(I fly large expensive RC airplanes in mode2 so mode1 type settings on the game pad will = the loss of models and or damage and injury )
2)with the stick/hotas choices we have to select from to correct my above problem its either choose one that is rudder on/off(almost impossible to use) or another that you cant look around to see were everything is at(real prob in sim). let alone no brakes, no wing man commands etc.

just those 2 things renders my game useless in my eyes. struggled through the campaign on realistic, and that is as far as i went. its collecting dust now.

[trk29]

nope i know this is a 360 thread but my gripe is the following for ps3

1)need to be able to remap controls(I fly large expensive RC airplanes in mode2 so mode1 type settings on the game pad will = the loss of models and or damage and injury )
2)with the stick/hotas choices we have to select from to correct my above problem its either choose one that is rudder on/off(almost impossible to use) or another that you cant look around to see were everything is at(real prob in sim). let alone no brakes, no wing man commands etc.

just those 2 things renders my game useless in my eyes. struggled through the campaign on realistic, and that is as far as i went. its collecting dust now.


Well hopefully when ever the patch comes all should be fixed.

[Panzergranate]

If COD MW2 sucks as big at COD WaW does, I don't think that we really need to be that concerned.

It also has to compete with the vastly superious Operation Flashpoint and Bad Comapny 2, bearing in mind that Bad Company 1 magnafied just how much WaW really sucks.

The COD francise is now aimed at kids below the age of 16 and dumbed down so much that serious gamers steer clear of them. It all started when COD 4 arrived and has gone south ever since.

Folks still play BSM and BSP for the ariel action and these are the folks that bought BOP.

Anyone notice that the average BOP, BSM or BSP is aged between 20 and 50 years??

Anything that attracts the kids away from the grown up online games is welcome. Halo ODST helped clean up a whole lot of online games and it keeps the "Squeekers" occupied.

[By-Tor]

You've been playing WAY to much HAWX and Ace Combat, haven't you. ;)

No-Ive never played either. I have flown hundreds of hours over many years on Warbirds, Aces High and IL2 on PC. I employ energy and angles tactics, but get the most enjoyment out of a fight that degenerates to co-E angles. That kind of combat requires being able to fly the edge of the stall envelope better than the opponent. Bop currently has little or no auditory clues to let you manipulate that fine line. I miss that and the patch is supposed to address the issue as I understand it. I also enjoy being able to fine tune my shot with precision control. The current deadzone issue does not allow that kind of control. I await the patch
to solve these issues for me. Thx for your positive words while I wait.;)

[Ancient Seraph]

This patch should correct the flight mechanics of many planes, that are screwed up. (Right, that's what we're all whining about now, right?) :P

Actually, I'm not sure that's true. They said they'd fix the P-51 by adjusting its fuel load, and since that's been said people have been speculating that more flight models might be fixed like this as well. Devs haven't said anything about that though.

[ontheborderland]

If COD MW2 sucks as big at COD WaW does, I don't think that we really need to be that concerned.

Everyone's always bagging on WaW, I thought it was great. Especially that mission in the Catalina :)

[FOZ_1983]

Waw and MW2 are made by companies that respect their players, which is what makes the so succesful, they both have active members who keep you up to date with everything going on, and if a MP issues aries and is in need of a patch then they get onto straight away and keep you updated daily with the latest.

Unlike this cowboy outfit that promises a patch then goes quite on us, to amerge a week or two later posting GERMAN COCKPITS!! screen shots on the pc forum.

A joke!!

for WaW and MW2, the active members are JD2020 and fourtwozero

[Ancient Seraph]

Waw and MW2 are made by companies that respect their players, which is what makes the so succesful, they both have active members who keep you up to date with everything going on, and if a MP issues aries and is in need of a patch then they get onto straight away and keep you updated daily with the latest.

Unlike this cowboy outfit that promises a patch then goes quite on us, to amerge a week or two later posting GERMAN COCKPITS!! screen shots on the pc forum.

A joke!!

for WaW and MW2, the active members are JD2020 and fourtwozero

I know people think of me as a dev fanboy and whatnot, but you have to remain fair to them.
The devs have been supportive, listened to us regarding the fixes needed, and promised to work them through. Now I know the update is frikkin late, but, to give the devs the benefit of the doubt, we don't know why. I'd love to have some info about this.
Furthermore, I think it's unfair to compare IL2 with huge games like CoD. There's a lot of money made from CoD sales, so they don't have to think twice about making and publishing another update.
What makes CoD and MW so popular is the extreme noob-friendliness of the games.
And about the 109 cockpits for PC: this is not done by Gaijin (360 devs). So there's no reason whatsoever to use this as an argument.

[Doktorwzzerd]

1. The P-51 and 190 have been reduced to flying school buses, this will be fixed after the patch (at least for the P-51, the 190 is questionable)
2. The huge issue with players crashing to avoid kills in MP will be fixed.

Those are the two main reasons, check out the dev's forum for more info on all that's coming in the patch. ;)

The crash thing has happened to me a lot where I've been shot down, but not blown out of the sky, lost control of my aircraft due to the wings being shot up, then the victor didn't get the credit. Kind of a big prob, a lot of the times people might not even be crashing on purpose, but just losing control at low altitude with damage and while trying to erratically maneuver at low speed, happens to me all the time. I need to get better!

[Anton Yudintsev]

Actually, I'm not sure that's true. They said they'd fix the P-51 by adjusting its fuel load, and since that's been said people have been speculating that more flight models might be fixed like this as well. Devs haven't said anything about that though.

Some other planes will also have lower level of fluel load in the update.

[FOZ_1983]

I know people think of me as a dev fanboy and whatnot, but you have to remain fair to them.
The devs have been supportive, listened to us regarding the fixes needed, and promised to work them through. Now I know the update is frikkin late, but, to give the devs the benefit of the doubt, we don't know why. I'd love to have some info about this.
Furthermore, I think it's unfair to compare IL2 with huge games like CoD. There's a lot of money made from CoD sales, so they don't have to think twice about making and publishing another update.
What makes CoD and MW so popular is the extreme noob-friendliness of the games.
And about the 109 cockpits for PC: this is not done by Gaijin (360 devs). So there's no reason whatsoever to use this as an argument.

Sorry anton, it wasnt a personnal attack on anyone, just my 2 cents worth, My only gripe was lack of info or anyone updating us. In my haste i blamed the wrong people (dev team) instead of the publishers. Cheers for the help anyway.

Also, could you make the hurricane 100MPH faster? give it some maverick missiles and a cloaking device?

Also the LA7 is wrong, it should have no aelrons or stabilizers, it shouldnt be able to move at all, and its guns... it didnt have any guns and its top speed is wrong. It shouldnt be able to go any faster than... hang on it shouldnt move at all from the tarmac :D

Just fix these little issues and all will be fine im sure :) lol

[Doktorwzzerd]

Some other planes will also have lower level of fluel load in the update.

AWESOME! Thanks for being thorough!

[Ancient Seraph]

Some other planes will also have lower level of fluel load in the update.

Great :D. Can you specify what planes?
Thanks for telling! :D

Edit: Lol @ Foz :P

[LostInSpace]

Some other planes will also have lower level of fluel load in the update.

Thanks for the feedback Anton!

Can you be a little more clearer though? Are the fuel levels being adjusted just to make us happy (meaning all variables were equal and we just need to practice) or was there an error on your part?

[Jo Jo]

I haven't played, and won't play again until the patch. Multiplayer is stupid when you shoot someone and they just crash on purpose.

[mattmanB182]

I haven't played, and won't play again until the patch. Multiplayer is stupid when you shoot someone and they just crash on purpose.

That actually does not happen much anymore. At least not that I have noticed. Of cours, I usually play with the same people every time.

It is kind of hard to keep a heavily damaged plane in the air, but most do their best. Yea the bug is annoying, but its not stopping me from playing.

[guiltyspark]

Thanks for the feedback Anton!

Can you be a little more clearer though? Are the fuel levels being adjusted just to make us happy (meaning all variables were equal and we just need to practice) or was there an error on your part?

it was an error in the settings of the planes

from what i understood the p51 in the game is flying like it had full droptanks (which SEVERELY limited performance of the plane)

So what anton and crew did was set the fuel weight of the plane to what it would be without the tanks

[LostInSpace]

OK I had a feeling it was something along those lines regarding the P-51.

[Ancient Seraph]

It's good to hear more flight models will change with different fuel settings. There's been a lot of speculation about this, but now there's actual confirmation :).

[XR62MIB]

That actually does not happen much anymore. At least not that I have noticed. Of cours, I usually play with the same people every time.

It is kind of hard to keep a heavily damaged plane in the air, but most do their best. Yea the bug is annoying, but its not stopping me from playing.

I agree with Mattman. There are still a few that take one bullet and swan dive to the dirt but most all the "regulars" are playing very fair for the most part. If i am flying my favorite 109 G6 low to the ground and take a hit to my wing it plummets immediately. I cannot keep it up at all. I for one absolutely never die on purpose.
I am waiting anxiously for the patch but I am playing regardless. Love the game.

[MorgothNL]

Some other planes will also have lower level of fluel load in the update.

Perfect :D, been waiting to hear about that one :P