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FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 01:11 AM
Inspired by a post by mattd27, i thought we'd see how this turns out :)


id have to go with - hawker hurricane, now i will get stick for that no doubt because im a hurricane fan boy :D

so my back up choice would be -

erm.....

ah.....

um.....

typhoon, or avenger

mattd27
10-24-2009, 01:13 AM
B-24 Liberator. Go ahead and say it a few times then tell me it doesn't sound like one badass plane. :)

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 01:18 AM
does sound good!! i'll admit it.

Robotic Pope
10-24-2009, 01:45 AM
Bristol Bulldog

Hawker Fury

P-26 Peashooter :D

Oh and the Curtiss Helldiver :evil:

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 01:55 AM
Um what else but the Yak-3!!! lol

Seriously though, I think the FW-190A "Butcher Birds" is a cool name. They were given that nickname by the Brits when they started to show up over England, and began slaughtering Spitfires and Hurricanes.

mattmanB182
10-24-2009, 02:28 AM
P-61 "Black Widow".

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 02:35 AM
i like black widow.


I also like "widow maker" but i just like the name, it was named that for all the wrong reasons :(

And for the benefit of soviet ace -

the FW190 mostly abused the shitfire :D the hurricane was out datd as a fighter by the end of 1940 so wasnt really out and about dogfighting over europe to much, if it did run into a FW190 then i feel sorry for the lufwaffe pilot who would of got his ass handed to him by the hurricane hahahahaha.

Ok the highlighted part is a tiny lie :P

But on the whole, not many hurricanes were destroyed by the 190.

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 03:02 AM
i like black widow.


I also like "widow maker" but i just like the name, it was named that for all the wrong reasons :(

And for the benefit of soviet ace -

the FW190 mostly abused the shitfire :D the hurricane was out datd as a fighter by the end of 1940 so wasnt really out and about dogfighting over europe to much, if it did run into a FW190 then i feel sorry for the lufwaffe pilot who would of got his ass handed to him by the hurricane hahahahaha.

Ok the highlighted part is a tiny lie :P

But on the whole, not many hurricanes were destroyed by the 190.

What about the Brits in North Africa? They were flying Hurricanes during 1940. But there weren't any FWs in North Africa at that time that I know of. :P

Another cool name is the "Zero". Funny how it was more than a "Zero". :P But I understand why it was called the Zero. :cool:

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 03:14 AM
What about the Brits in North Africa? They were flying Hurricanes during 1940. But there weren't any FWs in North Africa at that time that I know of. :P

Another cool name is the "Zero". Funny how it was more than a "Zero". :P But I understand why it was called the Zero. :cool:


We had hurricanes in the african theatre throughout the war. As a fighter at first because it could hold its own against the 109E, but then later models started to surface and also the italian planes and the hurricane was out matched. They had hurricanes escorting hurricanes, for example -

for were patrolling or attacking, with 4 flying top cover protecting them. The lufwaffe would slughter the hurricane in africa after 1940. But once the spitfires started turning up the hurricane found a new role as a "hurribomber" and left the dogfighting to the spitfire.

In 40-41 the 190 was far superior to everything we had, it was so much better than the current spitfires. Only when the IX started showing up did the 190 have a fair fight on its hands.

Maybe i like the hurricane so much because it does the role i prefer to do in flying game... ground attack, yet the ability to dogfight if need be. I guess i always liked the hrrucane since i wa a young boy, when everyone used to adore the spitfire, yet the hurricane used to sit on the side lines rather neglected. All i say is -

let the fan boys have their shitfire :P id take a hurricane anyday.

mattmanB182
10-24-2009, 03:20 AM
let the fan boys have their shitfire :P id take a hurricane anyday.

Dude thats the funniest sentence I have ever seen on this board. I like your passion.

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 03:21 AM
i do try :P

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 03:25 AM
Yeah I've taken a liking to the Hurricane, though I always have like the Hurricane since watching the Battle of Britain. But since learning about the Yak-3, and other Soviet planes. I've grown more towards them, obviously. :P

Downside to the Hurricane, is its canopy. I don't like having all that metal around me. lol

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 03:29 AM
Yeah I've taken a liking to the Hurricane, though I always have like the Hurricane since watching the Battle of Britain. But since learning about the Yak-3, and other Soviet planes. I've grown more towards them, obviously. :P

Downside to the Hurricane, is its canopy. I don't like having all that metal around me. lol


For every con theirs a pro :D


109 cockpit has a much better field of view, thats the pro.

The con -

the cockpit lifts open, so trying to bail out isnt as easy as with the hurricane which slides open :D


then you get the yak and the LA series....

great all round vision and the ability to slide open.... dirty russians ;) lol

Spitfire23
10-24-2009, 03:29 AM
let the fan boys have their shitfire :P id take a hurricane anyday.

Why call it the shitfire????

I really dont appreciate you calling one of britains most distinguished fighters "Shit"

so Please dont refer to this noble peice of art as "shit"

I do take offence,

Regards Gaz

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 03:33 AM
Why call it the shitfire????

I really dont appreciate you calling one of britains most distinguished fighters "Shit"

so Please dont refer to this noble peice of art as "shit"

I do take offence

Regards


I didnt call it shit ;)

i called it a shitfire :P



its much like the rivalry between the 360 and the PS3, it happens. Well this is the hurricane and spitfire rivalry, its all in good humour and jest. :D


And as a side note, i like how you said "one of" and not "the" as we all know the hurricane was the top dog in that dept......


Im joking before you give me grief lol, i would comfortably say that after 1940 the spitfire was our (and possibly THE best fighter in the world) greatest fighter.

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 03:40 AM
I didnt call it shit ;)

i called it a shitfire :P



its much like the rivalry between the 360 and the PS3, it happens. Well this is the hurricane and spitfire rivalry, its all in good humour and jest. :D


And as a side note, i like how you said "one of" and not "the" as we all know the hurricane was the top dog in that dept......


Im joking before you give me grief lol, i would comfortably say that after 1940 the spitfire was our (and possibly THE best fighter in the world) greatest fighter.

That is completely inaccurate. We all know the Yak-3 was the BEST fighter in the world. :P At least I think so, and the rest of the Soviet Red Air Force (wherever they may be?)

Spitfire23
10-24-2009, 03:41 AM
I really dont mean to give you grief

I must have got the wrong end of the stick.

I humbly apologise for that. Plus i couldnt agree more the Hurricane (of which i also am a huge fan of) would go somewhat unrivaled in the theatre of war.

Much respect, Gaz.

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 03:45 AM
no woories gaz :) its all in good humour around here.


Soviet ace, if this game was anything to go by then the best dogfighter would be the LA-7 without a shadow of a doubt, closely followed by the B17 hahahaha, as for the mustang, well...... all the films and history book and veterans must of got it wrong, waaayyyy wrong, because in this game it sucks. :P

flying buick
10-24-2009, 03:46 AM
Personally, I like the sound of the p-40 Warhawk. Hurricane sounds like a pretty good name for an aircraft too.

But in the words of a comedian the hurricane can be described as "exciting at first but ends in disaster."


Just kidding, I love the hurricane. However I've fallen in love with the La-7 now.

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 03:47 AM
no woories gaz :) its all in good humour around here.


Soviet ace, if this game was anything to go by then the best dogfighter would be the LA-7 without a shadow of a doubt, closely followed by the B17 hahahaha, as for the mustang, well...... all the films and history book and veterans must of got it wrong, waaayyyy wrong, because in this game it sucks. :P

Like I've said before. Speed isn't everything you know. Just take the I-16 for example. Great little maneuverable plane, and some good fire power to match! :cool: Only downside is speed and non-fuel injection. lol

Anyway, point is. I would take the Yak-3 over the La-7 anyday. Game or not. :cool: :D

flynlion
10-24-2009, 03:51 AM
As far as names go, I always kinda liked the Grumman Cats. Hellcat, Wildcat, Bearcat etc. My favorite is the fussin' and fightin' Tomcat, ready to take on a dozen of the enemy and probably get scratched up in the process LoL. Wait, I think my name is also a cat.

lost cause
10-24-2009, 04:28 AM
You guys are a trip! But you're all wrong. Yak? Awful!!!!! The cats are pretty good. Butcher Birds is great if it was a real name. But the best is:

Kingcobra! Damn good airplane. Too bad it's not in the game!

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 05:08 AM
You guys are a trip! But you're all wrong. Yak? Awful!!!!! The cats are pretty good. Butcher Birds is great if it was a real name. But the best is:

Kingcobra! Damn good airplane. Too bad it's not in the game!

Yeah, it's a good plane to get chewed up by my A6M2-21 Zero! lol. Maybe even my "Oscar"? Either way, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those death traps. Which they were since they had doors!! rather a proper canopy. :cool: Nice looking plane though.

Voyager
10-24-2009, 05:39 AM
A-20 Havoc.

Cry Havoc! And let slip the dogs of war.

gbtstr
10-24-2009, 05:51 AM
As far as names go, I always kinda liked the Grumman Cats. Hellcat, Wildcat, Bearcat etc. My favorite is the fussin' and fightin' Tomcat, ready to take on a dozen of the enemy and probably get scratched up in the process LoL. Wait, I think my name is also a cat.

Agreed. I'm a fan of all the 'cats, but they saved the best for last.

Anytime, Baby! :cool:

Roboslob
10-24-2009, 05:54 AM
Which they were since they had doors!! rather a proper canopy.

This is your door speaking, if you can get me open, say hi to the tail fin for me.

mattmanB182
10-24-2009, 06:00 AM
Yeah, it's a good plane to get chewed up by my A6M2-21 Zero! lol. Maybe even my "Oscar"? Either way, I wouldn't be caught dead in one of those death traps. Which they were since they had doors!! rather a proper canopy. :cool: Nice looking plane though.

Actually, I could be wrong, but I believe their biggest problem was the lack of a supercharger. I think the performance would have been much better with one. The engine was the biggest problem.

The armament was definatly not too shabby, definatly better than any Yak :-P

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 06:05 AM
This is your door speaking, if you can get me open, say hi to the tail fin for me.

Exactly. ;)

Actually, I could be wrong, but I believe their biggest problem was the lack of a supercharger. I think the performance would have been much better with one. The engine was the biggest problem.

The armament was definatly not too shabby, definatly better than any Yak :-P

Better armament, doesn't mean a better plane. The Yak-3 was much lighter due to just have twin MGs and a single cannon. While the P-63 Kingcobra, had four MGs and a nose cannon which weighed it down significantly. :D My Yak-3 could take care of the Kingcobra anyday. :cool: :P

PantherAttack2
10-24-2009, 01:00 PM
F-104 Starfighter.

Sure, it's after WW2, but I still think it's pretty cool name for a plane. I guess it can be a bit cheesy though... ;)

I still love those early jets.

FOZ_1983
10-24-2009, 01:54 PM
wow, some pretty good choices in here guys, i liking it :D

mattd27
10-24-2009, 02:52 PM
What about the B-36 peacemaker (was that used in WWII?)? If they had that plane drop the nuke there would have been some big controversy about the name. :)

lost cause
10-24-2009, 04:12 PM
Hans Marsielle was killed when bailing out of his 109 by hitting the verticle fin. You didn't have to open the door, the whole thing came off. And there were two, one on each side. Bailing of ANY fighter is risky and dangereous. If your canopy is jammed, you're dead. Two doors are better than one canopy. You guys should do more homework on the Kingcobra. Certain models DID have a supercharger and it had performance on par with the Mustang. It was an entirely differnt plane from the p39. The only reason the USAAF didn't order it was because they had already decided to go with the Mustang. The cobra showed up a few months too late. I have seen this plane many times in Midland Texas at the Confederate Air Force airshow right on the ass of Spits Mustangs, Corsairs, Bearcats and the like. It was a 400+mph fighter in level flight. The Russians got no supercharger because they needed it for low altitudes and they didn't want to pay for it. Unfortunately, we'll never know how good it could have been. We were talking about cool names. Not which of you kick another planes' ass.

Speaking of cool names, the Phantom is another favorite.

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 05:44 PM
What about the B-36 peacemaker (was that used in WWII?)? If they had that plane drop the nuke there would have been some big controversy about the name. :)

Nope. The B-36 was introduced in 1949, and was to replace the B-29 in long range bombing missions. It was originally flow in 1946, a year after WW2 (obviously).

The B-47 Stratojet,That's a cool name.

Soviet Ace
10-24-2009, 05:49 PM
Hans Marsielle was killed when bailing out of his 109 by hitting the verticle fin. You didn't have to open the door, the whole thing came off. And there were two, one on each side. Bailing of ANY fighter is risky and dangereous. If your canopy is jammed, you're dead. Two doors are better than one canopy. You guys should do more homework on the Kingcobra. Certain models DID have a supercharger and it had performance on par with the Mustang. It was an entirely differnt plane from the p39. The only reason the USAAF didn't order it was because they had already decided to go with the Mustang. The cobra showed up a few months too late. I have seen this plane many times in Midland Texas at the Confederate Air Force airshow right on the ass of Spits Mustangs, Corsairs, Bearcats and the like. It was a 400+mph fighter in level flight. The Russians got no supercharger because they needed it for low altitudes and they didn't want to pay for it. Unfortunately, we'll never know how good it could have been. We were talking about cool names. Not which of you kick another planes' ass.

Speaking of cool names, the Phantom is another favorite.

It was just some harmless fun, chill man. We've got nothing against the Kingcobra, but it's record isn't any better. So we make fun. But we'd do that with any other plane anyway.


EDIT: How could I forget the B-32 Dominator! Awesome name.

frame313
10-25-2009, 04:08 AM
I like F-101 Voodoo & B-58 Hustler.

gbtstr
10-25-2009, 04:49 AM
Speaking of cool names, the Phantom is another favorite.

You mean, "phavorite."

Frame, sweet sig pic.

dazz1971
10-25-2009, 09:09 AM
I like F-101 Voodoo & B-58 Hustler.


damn it i was gonna post the f-101 Voodoo as my choice :grin::grin:

mattd27
10-25-2009, 01:18 PM
You mean, "phavorite."

Frame, sweet sig pic.

+1 that is an awesome sig, lol. :)

Also, B-32 Terminator, no doubts that it's bomber with that name. :D

Soviet Ace
10-25-2009, 03:09 PM
+1 that is an awesome sig, lol. :)

Also, B-32 Dominator, no doubts that it's bomber with that name. :D

Fixed. :D

And on another note. I already said the B-32 Dominator. :) :cool:

Swagger7
10-26-2009, 04:34 AM
SB2C Helldiver, is certainly the coolest name. It gives a perfect description of what the plane is for.

The TBD Devastator is another cool one. Too bad the plane itself sucked so bad. The only people it devastated were its crews.

B-52 Stratofortress. "fortress in the clouds" Now that's a name!

Panzergranate
10-26-2009, 04:53 AM
I'd nominate the Blackburn "Roc" as the worst name for a fighter. The aircraft was incredibly ugly and was unstable with a top speed of 220 MPH.

Imagine Jo Brand as a fighter plane and you'll have some idea as to how ugly this aircraft was. If you find a picture online, keep a sickbag handy.

Basically a Skua dive bomber with a turret added to turn it into something like the Boulton-Paul "Defiant".

The Roc was used to defend Bermuda from Luftwaffe bombers.

Fortunately, after the loss of 169 squadron's Defiants in one single action, during the BoB, the RAF scrapped plans for a turreted Hurricane, the Hawker "Hotspur".

The sixteen gunned Hawker "Tornado" was also scrapped about the same time.

The P-66 Vultee "Vangard" isn't exactly an awe inspiring name. Fortunately only Canadians (training) and the Chinese (combat) flew them.

Least original name for a fighter has to be the Wackett C-13 "Boomerang", bearing in mind that it was designed and made by Australians.

I still think that the "Hellcat" and "Wildcat" have the best names for a fighter aircraft.

Vulcan607
10-26-2009, 02:24 PM
I know it isnt WW2 but as my name surgest its the Avro VULCAN. go on say it...
other favorites include
Tempest
Whirlwind
Oh and my favorite helicopter name is
Westland Widgeon

Doktorwzzerd
10-26-2009, 02:49 PM
I think some of the NATO reporting names for Soviet aircraft are pretty funny, the SU-27 Frogfoot being my fav. I've even read that a lot of Soviet pilots took offense to many of the those NATO names, the MiG-21 "Fishbed" particularly drawing the pilot's ire as it was their premier fighter in the early to mid 60's.

flynlion
10-26-2009, 04:04 PM
I know it isnt WW2 but as my name surgest its the Avro VULCAN. go on say it...
other favorites include
Tempest
Whirlwind
Oh and my favorite helicopter name is
Westland Widgeon

The G44 Widgeon was originally a twin engined flying boat built by Grumman in the '40s. Pure fun, I'd love to have one for bass fishing. It would make a great RV!

ButcherBird
10-26-2009, 04:06 PM
Fw-190

FOZ_1983
10-26-2009, 04:20 PM
Fw-190


With a name like "butcher bird" i'd of been shocked at any other choice ;)

Soviet Ace
10-26-2009, 07:27 PM
Su-17 "Fitter" isn't really a cool name. BUT that jet is cool. :cool:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/5/59/Krzesiny_49RB.JPG/800px-Krzesiny_49RB.JPG

Vulcan607
10-26-2009, 08:15 PM
http://richard-seaman.com/Wallpaper/Aircraft/Naval/SeaVenom.jpg

The SEA VENOM

Ancient Seraph
10-26-2009, 08:16 PM
Nice! That's a P-38 gone jet :P.

Vulcan607
10-26-2009, 08:25 PM
Nice! That's a P-38 gone jet :P.

and carrier based.

frame313
10-26-2009, 08:43 PM
Just thought of the F2H Banshee.

I'm not sure what a Banshee is exactly, but it sure sounds cool.

mattd27
10-26-2009, 08:46 PM
Just thought of the F2H Banshee.

I'm not sure what a Banshee is exactly, but it sure sounds cool.

I'm pretty sure it's a mythical creature of some sort. The google bars right in front of me but....I honestly can't be arsed.:grin:

Vulcan607
10-26-2009, 08:55 PM
yet you can be bothered to type a reply

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Banshee

FOZ_1983
10-26-2009, 09:19 PM
Lol.

flynlion
10-26-2009, 09:46 PM
Nice! That's a P-38 gone jet :P.

Nope. The Sea Venom has a single engine :razz:

Ancient Seraph
10-26-2009, 09:48 PM
Nope. The Sea Venom has a single engine :razz:

Yeah, I kinda noticed that. Can't deny the similarities though. It was the first plane I thought of when I saw the pic.

Soviet Ace
10-27-2009, 12:06 AM
Wow, I'm surprised no one has said F-86 SABRE!!!! Awesome name. And it's an awesome sound jet of the early years. :cool:

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Prescott2005/Highlights/F86.jpg

Soviet Ace
10-27-2009, 12:08 AM
Double post..

mattd27
10-27-2009, 12:20 AM
Ah yeah! I totally forgot about the Sabre. There was a great episode of dogfights on about it last night. I believe the episode name was "Supersonic", probably one of the better dogfights I've seen actually.

mattmanB182
10-27-2009, 12:40 AM
Wow, I'm surprised no one has said F-86 SABRE!!!! Awesome name. And it's an awesome sound jet of the early years. :cool:

http://www.richard-seaman.com/Aircraft/AirShows/Prescott2005/Highlights/F86.jpg

Not only was it a great figher....but I believe its the most beautiful aircraft ever made.

mattd27
10-27-2009, 12:47 AM
Not only was it a great figher....but I believe its the most beautiful aircraft ever made.

Now that is for a whole other thread.;) I'd actually have to think about the question for a bit, but off hand I'd say the phantom is a pretty sweet looking plane.
http://daphne.palomar.edu/scrout/ams105/F-4_Phantom_II_in_flying.jpg

....and hey, it's got a nice name too!

Soviet Ace
10-27-2009, 01:02 AM
Phatom's an alright plane, but it's to big for me. P/F-80 is a sweet jet. P/F-80 Shooting Star. :cool: It was Americas answer to the German 262, if the war had lasted just a couple more years. Then we'd of had B-29s, and P-80s flying over German airspace!! Speaking of which, the P-59 Aircomet was a cool name. Sad the prototype didn't succeed in what it was supposed to. But hey, that's why we've got the P/F-80. :cool:

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/9/9b/Production_P-80s_af.jpg
P/F-80 Shooting Star

http://www.steeldragons.net/aircomet.jpg

xX-SiLeNcE-Xx
10-27-2009, 01:12 AM
The F-16 Fighting Falcon

Not WW2, but still a sick name :)

Voyager
10-27-2009, 01:14 AM
I think some of the NATO reporting names for Soviet aircraft are pretty funny, the SU-27 Frogfoot being my fav. I've even read that a lot of Soviet pilots took offense to many of the those NATO names, the MiG-21 "Fishbed" particularly drawing the pilot's ire as it was their premier fighter in the early to mid 60's.

The MiG-15's was probably the worst though. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader, as I'm pretty sure you can't post that here.

On the other hand, Flanker is an awesome name. Fulcrum is not bad either.

Fun little trivia about the F4H Phantom II. Given the naming conventions that McDonnell used at the time, the project manager had originally wanted to name is Satan, but the name was considered to controversial at the time. Apparently, one of the other names proposed was Mithras, the Persian god of light. linky (http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f4_1.html)

PapaBoon
10-27-2009, 01:18 AM
F8F Bearcat...cool name!
http://www.vg-photo.com/airshow/cama2007/f8f/DSC_7424.jpg

dazz1971
10-27-2009, 01:31 AM
ok as someone has posted the sea venom i got to post my fav plane

dh f3 vampire

http://i874.photobucket.com/albums/ab309/DAZZ1971/de-havilland-vampire-f3.jpg

Soviet Ace
10-27-2009, 01:33 AM
The MiG-15's was probably the worst though. I'll leave it as an exercise for the reader, as I'm pretty sure you can't post that here.

On the other hand, Flanker is an awesome name. Fulcrum is not bad either.

Fun little trivia about the F4H Phantom II. Given the naming conventions that McDonnell used at the time, the project manager had originally wanted to name is Satan, but the name was considered to controversial at the time. Apparently, one of the other names proposed was Mithras, the Persian god of light. linky (http://home.att.net/~jbaugher1/f4_1.html)

You mean the MiG-15 "Fagot"? Which the the meaning of "fagot" here, is a strong bundle of sticks and twigs. Not the sexual slur.

FOZ_1983
10-27-2009, 02:28 AM
Best name AND best looking its without a doubt the hurricane, you all know it :D

http://i809.photobucket.com/albums/zz16/FOZ1983/800px-Hurricane_IIC_PZ865.jpg

Leweegibo
10-27-2009, 02:43 AM
Personally, I like the sound of the p-40 Warhawk.

also known as a kittyhawk, warhawk is much better!!

Panzergranate
10-27-2009, 02:52 AM
My late father was an airframe fitter on De Haviland Vampires in Iraq in 1950 (when it was still part of the British Empire) and in Egypt until 1952 (Also then part of the British Empire).

The Vampire was the world's fastest fighter in 1952 but did suffer from hydraulic leakage problems regarding the undercarriage in the hot weather, so my father told me.

My father had to help find a 1" calibre musket ball that had penetrated a port wing of one Vampire, due to some Arab taking a pot shot at one as it came into land in Egypt, and it had entered but not exited and so was rolling around inside the wing. The whole wing had to be stripped down until it was found.

He also had to sit in the cockpit of a captured Bf-110 that was still in a hangar so as to work the brakes as it was wheeled out to be scrapped.

He descrbed it as a WW2 twin engined fighter with a split tail. I showed him a Bf-110 picture and he recognised it.

Today the aircraft would be priceless in value, in 1951 it was taking up valuable hangar space.

Soviet Ace
10-27-2009, 02:52 AM
also known as a kittyhawk, warhawk is much better!!

As well as the better name: Tomahawk! :cool:

Panzergranate
10-27-2009, 02:54 AM
The "Fairey Battle" light bomber sounds more like a punch up in a gay bar.

FOZ_1983
10-27-2009, 03:28 AM
The "Fairey Battle" light bomber sounds more like a punch up in a gay bar.

lol, yeah very true!

still.... it got the first RAF aerial victory of the second world war ;)











still a heap of shit though

mattmanB182
10-27-2009, 03:56 AM
lol, yeah very true!

still.... it got the first RAF aerial victory of the second world war ;)











still a heap of shit though



Wow the poor idiot that got shot down by that thing......

Couldnt it have been decent at ground attack? With that huge ass turret for defense?

Panzergranate
10-27-2009, 04:09 AM
A Sergeant Rear Gunner shot down a German Bf-109 D over the French - German border during the 1939 "Phoney War" period about 6 months before the Blitz Kreig started.

The Fairey Battle was the RAFs first all metal aircraft, was the first aircraft to fly with the Rolls Royce Merlin engine (unsupercharged) and was the first RAF aircraft to carry a 0.50" Calibre HMG (right wing mounted). It also had its bomb bays in the wings.

Top speed was 247 MPH.

Number still flying today is one example in Canada.

Soviet Ace
10-27-2009, 04:12 AM
A Sergeant Rear Gunner shot down a German Bf-109 D over the French - German border during the 1939 "Phoney War" period about 6 months before the Blitz Kreig started.

The Fairey Battle was the RAFs first all metal aircraft, was the first aircraft to fly with the Rolls Royce Merlin engine (unsupercharged) and was the first RAF aircraft to carry a 0.50" Calibre HMG (right wing mounted). It also had its bomb bays in the wings.

Top speed was 247 MPH.

Number still flying today is one example in Canada.

Well your just a plain old walking "Plane Encyclopedia" aren't you? :P

flynlion
10-27-2009, 05:12 AM
Now that is for a whole other thread.;) I'd actually have to think about the question for a bit, but off hand I'd say the phantom is a pretty sweet looking plane.
http://daphne.palomar.edu/scrout/ams105/F-4_Phantom_II_in_flying.jpg

....and hey, it's got a nice name too!

The F4 Phantom is sweet looking? You ever seen one in person? In Vietnam it was known as "Big Ugly", the plane that "had it's aerodynamics decided by committee" and "Proof that with big enough engines a brick can fly" LoL. Technically the F4 is the "Phantom 2". The original Phantom entered service in 1947 and was the first jet to operate from US carriers. I'm certainly not trying to bash a great plane's war record, but imho, good looking the F4 aint.

Spitfire23
10-27-2009, 05:42 AM
The F4 Phantom is sweet looking? You ever seen one in person? In Vietnam it was known as "Big Ugly", the plane that "had it's aerodynamics decided by committee" and "Proof that with big enough engines a brick can fly" LoL. Technically the F4 is the "Phantom 2". The original Phantom entered service in 1947 and was the first jet to operate from US carriers. I'm certainly not trying to bash a great plane's war record, but imho, good looking the F4 aint.

I disagree, its much like the Apache, Its so Ugly, its Beautiful

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 07:34 AM
http://lh6.ggpht.com/_Wi9XVb4mJ90/SINVaf8FjoI/AAAAAAAAAX0/pnAA1OdZxRI/IMG_2397.JPG


The Foland Gnat.

dazz1971
10-27-2009, 10:08 AM
oooh the gnat another childhood fav of mine :grin: the red arrows used to fly them i think before they upgraded to the hawk :grin:

Spitfire23
10-27-2009, 10:34 AM
oooh the gnat another childhood fav of mine :grin: the red arrows used to fly them i think before they upgraded to the hawk :grin:

They did indeed. Im a huge fan

Heres a pic of the Red arrows Gnat T1,(which was the first plane used by 'The Red Arrows' way back in 1965) next to the Current BAE Hawk


http://www.deltaweb.co.uk/reds/images/gnat402.jpg


They only had 5 pilots when they first started out in the T1, until eventually recruiting more to become "The Diamond Nine"

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 11:55 AM
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/6/4/0999463.jpg

Yellow jacks were the perdicessor of the Red Arrows.

dazz1971
10-27-2009, 12:25 PM
http://cdn-www.airliners.net/aviation-photos/photos/3/6/4/0999463.jpg

Yellow jacks were the perdicessor of the Red Arrows.

yes the yellow jacks that brings it all back from my childhood :grin:

i painted one of my gnats in that scheme after reading about them in a book my uncle had on aerobatic teams :grin:

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 01:17 PM
yes the yellow jacks that brings it all back from my childhood :grin:

i painted one of my gnats in that scheme after reading about them in a book my uncle had on aerobatic teams :grin:


That wouldnt be the Airfix 1/72 Foland Gnat would it?
oh another of my personal favorites
http://www.classicairframes.com/articles/images/whirlwindbg_newtitle.jpg
Westland Whirlwind.

Ancient Seraph
10-27-2009, 02:28 PM
Wow.. that gnat is ugly :P. Sorry to say, but it looks like it bumped its nose into a wall at 200 mph :P.

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 02:42 PM
Wow.. that gnat is ugly :P. Sorry to say, but it looks like it bumped its nose into a wall at 200 mph :P.

Go on get, away with you leave us to savour the memories of the Beautiful Folland Gnat.

P.S. how can you say the gnat is ugly when there a picture if a whirlwind in this thread!

haitch40
10-27-2009, 03:08 PM
They did indeed. Im a huge fan

Heres a pic of the Red arrows Gnat T1,(which was the first plane used by 'The Red Arrows' way back in 1965) next to the Current BAE Hawk


http://www.deltaweb.co.uk/reds/images/gnat402.jpg


They only had 5 pilots when they first started out in the T1, until eventually recruiting more to become "The Diamond Nine"

i see them too much i live near where they r based and they frequently do practise runs over lincoln

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 03:09 PM
i see them too much i live near where they r based and they frequently do practise runs over lincoln


Arnt they based at Valey?

FOZ_1983
10-27-2009, 03:34 PM
I've had the joys of helping refuel the red arrows amongst others, my fav being the hawker hurricane, though we didnt really do the refuelling of it. The BBMF has crew do to that.

The red arrows are based at skampton and the bbmf from coningsby, both in lincolnshire :D

I've also been in the lancaster bomber (not flown though) and it was lovely, but very scary at the same time. It was eery sitting in the rear turret all alone.

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 03:47 PM
I've had the joys of helping refuel the red arrows amongst others, my fav being the hawker hurricane, though we didnt really do the refuelling of it. The BBMF has crew do to that.

The red arrows are based at skampton and the bbmf from coningsby, both in lincolnshire :D

I've also been in the lancaster bomber (not flown though) and it was lovely, but very scary at the same time. It was eery sitting in the rear turret all alone.

I definatly remember them at valley, they must have been off to an airshow or something.

FOZ_1983
10-27-2009, 03:52 PM
I definatly remember them at valley, they must have been off to an airshow or something.

The RAF hawk trainers are based in the valley :D

So you will always see those flying about, we get them here (blackpool) daily practising ILS approachs etc. Mix that in with the eurofighter typhoon flying over every 2 minutes and its pretty annoying sometimes.

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 03:54 PM
The RAF hawk trainers are based in the valley :D

So you will always see those flying about, we get them here (blackpool) daily practising ILS approachs etc. Mix that in with the eurofighter typhoon flying over every 2 minutes and its pretty annoying sometimes.

yeah its the gunnery school and the hawks there are black.
These were red red i tells yea!

FOZ_1983
10-27-2009, 03:55 PM
red arrows then :D

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 04:34 PM
red arrows then :D
I had guessed as much.
Back on topic i think tiger moth deserves a place here.

Vulcan607
10-27-2009, 05:27 PM
http://www.defenselink.mil/transformation/images/photos/2006-02/Hi-Res/02102006_globemaster.jpg
GLOBEMASTER
what a name!

Ancient Seraph
10-27-2009, 05:45 PM
(picture that's a bit too large)
GLOBEMASTER
what a name!

+1

dazz1971
10-27-2009, 06:32 PM
@ vulcan thanks for that pic of the globemaster kudos to you my friend i now have a awsome wallpaper :grin:

flynlion
10-27-2009, 07:40 PM
GLOBEMASTER
what a name!

Yes it's a good name, so good that it's already been used twice LoL.
The original C-74 Globemaster was a radial engined transport from the late 40's that participated in the Berlin airlift. Later came the C-124 Globemaster 2, which also had 4 radials. The C-17 is the Globemaster 3, and if you think it looks cool in the picture, you gotta watch one takeoff :-P

Araqiel
10-27-2009, 08:51 PM
SB2C Helldiver, is certainly the coolest name. It gives a perfect description of what the plane is for.

The TBD Devastator is another cool one. Too bad the plane itself sucked so bad. The only people it devastated were its crews.

B-52 Stratofortress. "fortress in the clouds" Now that's a name!

Awesome call on all of these, but especially the SB. Probably my favourite WW2-era aircraft, all things considered.

My vote for best (certainly most fitting) name though (provided we're counting 'official unofficial' names) would the the SR-71 'Habu' - 'Blackbird' was the name used once it was acknowledged to the public, but all who worked with the aircraft preferred the former name, a Habu being a dark poisonous pit viper native to the island chain including Okinawa, where many of the SR-71s operational sorties were flown from.

Reddisback
10-27-2009, 10:14 PM
... I know this is an aiplane site and Game. But I have allot of awesome tank screens who even those pesky plane Nerds. Err.. I mean 'Speciallist'

So here are some awesome Panzer screenies;)

Get this, a Leo2 in the USA! :grin:
http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/vojta_micek/leopard2a5/images/leopard2a5_2_of_7.jpg

I soo wanna do this....:(
http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/vojta_micek/german_leopard2a6/images/german_leopard2a6_1_of_8.jpg

the bigger the better they say, huh?
http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/vojta_micek/german_leopard2a6/images/german_leopard2a6_8_of_8.jpg

Micheal Wittman looked allot Better!!:cool:
http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/vojta_micek/leopard2a5/images/leopard2a5_7_of_7.jpg

http://img155.imageshack.us/img155/4961/generatethumbnailaspxsv9.jpg

über Cool! :cool:
http://data3.primeportal.net/tanks/peter_van_iren/leopard_2a4_nld/images/leopard_2a4_nld_08_of_15.jpg

let's face it? tanks are allway's cooler then Aircraft..?;)

flynlion
10-27-2009, 10:30 PM
Tanks make nice targets :-P

Araqiel
10-27-2009, 10:40 PM
"Hey, doesn't that hole look just like a T-62?"

Leweegibo
10-27-2009, 10:53 PM
Definatly like

B-52 STRATOFORTRESS

sounds so epic, plus delivers a world of hurt!

Soviet Ace
10-27-2009, 10:54 PM
Tu-95 BEAR!! You know with a name "Bear" attached, it has to be Russian. lol

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95d_2.jpg

Reddisback
10-27-2009, 11:05 PM
Tu-95 BEAR!! You know with a name "Bear" attached, it has to be Russian. lol

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95d_2.jpg


OEH! isen't that aircraft who makes that much sound that it could be picked up by a submerged Submarine? :-P

frame313
10-27-2009, 11:27 PM
Great name though the plane itself doesn't look as intimidating as it sounds: North American A-5 Vigilante

vig·i·lan·te (vĭj'ə-lān'tē) n.
One who takes or advocates the taking of law enforcement into one's own hands, violently and summarily.

Ancient Seraph
10-27-2009, 11:42 PM
... I know this is an aiplane site and Game. But I have allot of awesome tank screens who even those pesky plane Nerds. Err.. I mean 'Speciallist'

So here are some awesome Panzer screenies;)

(...)

let's face it? tanks are allway's cooler then Aircraft..?;)
I'm assuming you have a death wish? :P

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 12:48 AM
Tu-95 BEAR!! You know with a name "Bear" attached, it has to be Russian. lol

http://www.fas.org/nuke/guide/russia/bomber/tu-95d_2.jpg

Heres one of those buggers being shadowed by the RAF eurofighter

'Putin' the crafty man

http://www.air-attack.com/MIL/eurofighter/ef_tu95bear_20070822.jpg

FOZ_1983
10-28-2009, 01:05 AM
i was looknig for that pic earlier to post :D glad you found it.

It was good co operation between europe to intercept the "bear"


Norwegian and finnish planes were shadowing it for a while seeing what it was upto and informing us, who then sent up the typhoon to seek it out over the north sea. Now if it were me....

i dont know actually. Ive no idea what id do haha.

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 01:43 AM
There's plenty of pictures, and stories as well about EU Eurofighters etc. shadowing "Bears" while they fly around the north. Kinda reminds me of the Cold War when I was a kid, even though I was only around for the last few years of it.

But there have been stories where American planes were shadowed by Soviet fighters, to see what they were all about.

Panzergranate
10-28-2009, 01:59 AM
B-36 "Peacemaker" sounds like it means what it says.

"Stormovik" translates as "Storm Bringer", which seems fitting for the most heavily armed ground attack aircraft of the war.

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 02:05 AM
i was looknig for that pic earlier to post :D glad you found it.

It was good co operation between europe to intercept the "bear"


Norwegian and finnish planes were shadowing it for a while seeing what it was upto and informing us, who then sent up the typhoon to seek it out over the north sea. Now if it were me....

i dont know actually. Ive no idea what id do haha.

Yea, ive still got the newspaper cutout of it somewhere around here,

But i remember the title saying "moment the RAF saw off putins bomber"

Dubbedinenglish
10-28-2009, 02:38 AM
Surprised with no mention of the Tornado...
http://www.defenseindustrydaily.com/images/AIR_Tornado_GR4_Through_Smoke_Mike_Jorgensen_lg.jp g

Or perhaps the most apt name for a fighter the F-22 "Raptor"

http://freewebpromotion.net/wp-content/uploads/2009/05/raptor-f22.jpg

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 02:50 AM
Damn thats a nice picture of the Tornado *Thumbs up*

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 02:55 AM
Can't stay long. Apparently I have a party to attend. *Surprises SUCK!*

Anyway, here's some MiG-29 Fulcrum pics, aka "Falcon Killer". It's true, look it up.

http://quicklink.all.googlepages.com/mig29_Fulcrum_01.jpg
http://www.airforce-technology.com/projects/mig29/images/fulcrum7.jpg

FOZ_1983
10-28-2009, 02:57 AM
fulcrum in czech markings ;) maybe soviet doesnt have so much pride in the way russian pilots fly :P

lol.

Deascendent
10-28-2009, 03:18 AM
Not sure if anyone mentioned this, since this thread is a frakkin' long but the...

F-4 Phantom and also the Wild Weasel, always thought that was the perfect name as far as imagery for it's mission.

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 05:02 AM
fulcrum in czech markings ;) maybe soviet doesnt have so much pride in the way russian pilots fly :P

lol.

I just grabbed what I could find. lol And even Germany uses the MiG-29. Last I heard anyway.

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 06:29 AM
http://www.militaryartgallery.com/images_3_b/b_buccanneer_strike_force.jpg
Yarh the Blackburn Buccaneer me heartys

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 07:57 AM
How about the F-117 'NightHawk'?

http://newwars.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/f-117_nighthawk_front.jpg

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 08:04 AM
Or hey what about the B-2 'Spirit'

Not the BEST name but hey, she a beauty ;)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/TolipM/RwNUkFeNpZI/AAAAAAAAAac/554Lc3nes2A/s800/b-2+spirit.jpg

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:05 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Vulcan607 View Post
(picture that's a bit too large)
GLOBEMASTER
what a name!
+1
+1

Nah sorry mate its just your screens to small to show all the awsomnes of that picture at once.

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 08:06 AM
Nah sorry mate its just your screens to small to show all the awsomnes of that picture at once.

Haha, like it

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:07 AM
Or hey what about the B-2 'Spirit'

Not the BEST name but hey, she a beauty ;)

http://lh5.ggpht.com/TolipM/RwNUkFeNpZI/AAAAAAAAAac/554Lc3nes2A/s800/b-2+spirit.jpg

Beauty? No no no looks like someone stepped on one of these
http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/bombers/avro-vulcan-b-2.jpg

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 08:09 AM
Beauty? No no no looks like someone stepped on one of these
http://www.military-aircraft.org.uk/bombers/avro-vulcan-b-2.jpg

God i love that thing, always had a soft spot for her.

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:12 AM
God i love that thing, always had a soft spot for her.

Amen brother Amen.
God bless that tin triangle

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 08:18 AM
Amen brother Amen.
God bless that tin triangle

Indeed.

I still haven't gotten over the fact that i missed her perform at Cosford Airshow (my local Airshow) after they restored her to flying condition :(

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:23 AM
Indeed.

I still haven't gotten over the fact that i missed her perform at Cosford Airshow (my local Airshow) after they restored her to flying condition :(

Im annoyed cause it flew over my house to Southport but i couldnt see it.
Still heard those olympuses though. mmm

Spitfire23
10-28-2009, 08:30 AM
Im annoyed cause it flew over my house to Southport but i couldnt see it.
Still heard those olympuses though. mmm

Id still class that as being one lucky son of a bitch.

ill see her next year

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:35 AM
Id still class that as being one lucky son of a bitch.

ill see her next year

Yeah i suppose
and same ive got to get back into going to airshows.

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:40 AM
http://www.airplane-pictures.net/images/uploaded-images/2007-11/28/8237.jpg

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 10:35 AM
http://www.raf.mod.uk/downloads/wallpapers/1944/sunderlandv1024.jpg
shorts sunderland or porqupine as jerry called it.

dazz1971
10-28-2009, 10:50 AM
errh a pink spitfire wtf!!! bet it looks like a flying dildo :grin:

liking the sunderland oh and on the subject of flying boats anyone got pics of the spruce goose ??? not too sure if it got compleated by it was supposed to by the largest flying boat ever built ??

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 10:52 AM
errh a pink spitfire wtf!!! bet it looks like a flying dildo :grin:

liking the sunderland oh and on the subject of flying boats anyone got pics of the spruce goose ??? not too sure if it got compleated by it was supposed to by the largest flying boat ever built ??

pink is the best cammo for the met flight.

Araqiel
10-28-2009, 12:10 PM
Amen brother Amen.
God bless that tin triangle

Beautiful aircraft. Was lucky enough to see her at RAF Fairford RIAT this year, certainly my favourite display there since the last B-2 flyover (BBMF don't count, they have a head-start on awesome ^_^).

Soviet is right that Germany uses, or at least used MiG-29 - the East German MiG-29Gs were bought up by the newly unified Germany and fitted with some Western avionics systems.

FOZ_1983
10-28-2009, 01:43 PM
I saw her (vulcan bomber) twice this year. She is one loud plane!

had one here at blackpool as a gate guardian until a couple of years ago, it was good to se one actually flying and hear that raw power...

though as nice as it was......

its just not a merlin :)

6 merlins all flying over at once is a nice sound that cant be beaten!! (BBMF, lanc x4 spit x1 hurrican x1)

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 01:46 PM
I saw her (vulcan bomber) twice this year. She is one loud plane!

had one here at blackpool as a gate guardian until a couple of years ago, it was good to se one actually flying and hear that raw power...

though as nice as it was......

its just not a merlin :)

6 merlins all flying over at once is a nice sound that cant be beaten!! (BBMF, lanc x4 spit x1 hurrican x1)
Rolls Royces all the same though, alot better (dare i face the wrath) than those Soviet ones.
But no the Olympus went on to power Concorde.

Back on topic I think Nimrod is a good name.

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 02:29 PM
Ohh the "Caspian Sea Monster"
a big Ekranoplan
http://mcarlock.net/pic/km-ekranoplan.jpg
not stricktly a plane but.

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 08:09 PM
Rolls Royces all the same though, alot better (dare i face the wrath) than those Soviet ones.
But no the Olympus went on to power Concorde.

Back on topic I think Nimrod is a good name.

Hey now. Let's not go crazy with what we say, alright? We don't want anyone's feelings getting hurt, with me having to show them up with a VK-105PF-2 Engine. lol

Now I'm not sure where this is shot, but the paint job is definitely Normandie-Niemen. Who were French pilots flying for the Soviets in WW2. This is the only Yak-3 I know of, that is actually flying with a reproduction VK-105PF-2 engine. Unlike the more familiar Airshow Yak-3 "White 100" which is powered by an Allison. Anyway, enjoy. :D

VK-105PF-2 Engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfeTnRbql_0)

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:11 PM
Hey now. Let's not go crazy with what we say, alright? We don't want anyone's feelings getting hurt, with me having to show them up with a VK-105PF-2 Engine. lol

Now I'm not sure where this is shot, but the paint job is definitely Normandie-Niemen. Who were French pilots flying for the Soviets in WW2. This is the only Yak-3 I know of, that is actually flying with a reproduction VK-105PF-2 engine. Unlike the more familiar Airshow Yak-3 "White 100" which is powered by an Allison. Anyway, enjoy. :D

VK-105PF-2 Engine (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfeTnRbql_0)

sorry some one seems to have overlayed the noise of a sewing matchine over that vidio.

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 08:14 PM
sorry some one seems to have overlayed the noise of a sewing matchine over that vidio.

Jealousy and hidden love for that sound, will get you no where in life. :-P

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:16 PM
Jealousy and hidden love for that sound, will get you no where in life. :-P

But the Merlin!

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 08:17 PM
But the Merlin!

Has a nice sound when it's bursting into flames. lol

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:18 PM
Has a nice sound when it's bursting into flames. lol

Those are the exhausts mate!:grin:
I know which id rather use

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 08:24 PM
Those are the exhausts mate!:grin:
I know which id rather use

Yeah, I don't recall Yak or La pilots complaining about their planes getting hit with some rounds, and gasoline spilling into the cockpit. :P But it was all to common for the Hurricanes and Spitfires, which were prone to that because of a fuel tank being right there in front of them.

So I know which I'd rather use. lol

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:26 PM
Yeah, I don't recall Yak or La pilots complaining about their planes getting hit with some rounds, and gasoline spilling into the cockpit. :P But it was all to common for the Hurricanes and Spitfires, which were prone to that because of a fuel tank being right there in front of them.

So I know which I'd rather use. lol

Werent they still using radial engines?

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 08:29 PM
Werent they still using radial engines?

Yak's used straight inline engines, except the Yak-11 which was a Yak-3 with a radial, but they were used as trainers; rather than fighters. La's used radials, but they were fuel injected. So that's why they don't cut out when you nose them down like the I-16 and I-153.

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:31 PM
Yak's used straight inline engines, except the Yak-11 which was a Yak-3 with a radial, but they were used as trainers; rather than fighters. La's used radials, but they were fuel injected. So that's why they don't cut out when you nose them down like the I-16 and I-153.

But radials were outdated technology.
oh course folk this is all in the name of fun

Soviet Ace
10-28-2009, 08:38 PM
But radials were outdated technology.
oh course folk this is all in the name of fun

Well there are really just one Radial engine, that the La's used. But there are two makers. First there was the La-5 with just a plain old M-82 Radial engine, fuel injected (this is 42' so it was more common than in the 30s.) After the La-5F which was just a higher RPM M-82, named the M-82 Engine. The La-5FN came out, which was a M-82FN radial engine. Once again the RPM was just increased, and the engine was lightened for better performance.

Once the La-7 came out, a new developer took charge and it became the ASh-82 radial engine. Which once more was just a M-82FN lightened even more, and higher RPMs. (history less over. :P)

And everyone knows Russia in general likes keeping things simple. And Radial engines are probably one of the simplest engines out there. lol

Vulcan607
10-28-2009, 08:39 PM
Well there are really just one Radial engine, that the La's used. But there are two makers. First there was the La-5 with just a plain old M-82 Radial engine, fuel injected (this is 42' so it was more common than in the 30s.) After the La-5F which was just a higher RPM M-82, named the M-82 Engine. The La-5FN came out, which was a M-82FN radial engine. Once again the RPM was just increased, and the engine was lightened for better performance.

Once the La-7 came out, a new developer took charge and it became the ASh-82 radial engine. Which once more was just a M-82FN lightened even more, and higher RPMs. (history less over. :P)

And everyone knows Russia in general likes keeping things simple. And Radial engines are probably one of the simplest engines out there. lol

Thats all fine and dandy but its still not a rolls royce.

olife
11-02-2009, 02:33 AM
f6f hellcat is a cool name

Vulcan607
11-02-2009, 02:54 PM
Vickers Valient has a ring to it.

haitch40
11-02-2009, 02:58 PM
hmm cool aircraft name

f86 sabre
or F4 phantom

Panzergranate
11-02-2009, 03:06 PM
Both the Hurricane and Spitfire had something that the Yak and the LaGG didn't have..... armour plating behind the pilot's seat and a firewall between the cockpit and the fuel tank.

The I-i53 ahd a terrible reputation for the airflow blowing through the undercarriage well turning the cockpit into a blast furnace when the non-self sealing or armoured fuel tanks caught fire. It is because of this that Soviet pilots never felw with the canopy cover ftted, as they needed to escape in a hurry when hit.

Vulcan607
11-02-2009, 03:07 PM
Both the Hurricane and Spitfire had something that the Yak and the LaGG didn't have..... armour plating behind the pilot's seat and a firewall between the cockpit and the fuel tank.

The I-i53 ahd a terrible reputation for the airflow blowing through the undercarriage well turning the cockpit into a blast furnace when the non-self sealing or armoured fuel tanks caught fire. It is because of this that Soviet pilots never felw with the canopy cover ftted, as they needed to escape in a hurry when hit.

I take it this continues from mine and soviets discussion.

Ancient Seraph
11-02-2009, 03:11 PM
I take it this continues from mine and soviets discussion.

Most of Panzergranate's posts involve randomly spewing historical info. Not always relevant.

Vulcan607
11-02-2009, 06:28 PM
Most of Panzergranate's posts involve randomly spewing historical info. Not always relevant.

Thats not neccisarily a bad thing.

Soviet Ace
11-02-2009, 08:56 PM
Both the Hurricane and Spitfire had something that the Yak and the LaGG didn't have..... armour plating behind the pilot's seat and a firewall between the cockpit and the fuel tank.

The I-153 ahd a terrible reputation for the airflow blowing through the undercarriage well turning the cockpit into a blast furnace when the non-self sealing or armoured fuel tanks caught fire. It is because of this that Soviet pilots never felw with the canopy cover ftted, as they needed to escape in a hurry when hit.

Actually, later LaGG-3s did have armor plating, but only experimental versions did, but the pilots didn't like it because it restricted their view. Second, the Yaks didn't need armor plating behind the pilot because they had bullet proof glass behind them. Which the La's also had, and LaGG-3s of later types.

And that's not the only reason I-153 Chaika pilots had their canopy open. But also because it gave them a better view, and they weren't restricted by the canopy. And it was only a a couple of types of I-153s that had canopies. Most were open cockpit like the I-16s.

I take it this continues from mine and soviets discussion.

That was a good discussion. :D

Vulcan607
11-03-2009, 04:56 PM
That was a good discussion. :D

Yeah i would have called it an argument but it was more freindly.
more of a gentlemans disagreement.

Soviet Ace
11-03-2009, 07:44 PM
Yeah i would have called it an argument but it was more freindly.
more of a gentlemans disagreement.

Well I don't know about you. But I wasn't arguing. More like you said a gentleman's disagreement. But it was like me an FOZ, no real anger or anything. Just friendly rivalry. :D

Oh and Yak-3 wins every time. :P

Vulcan607
11-03-2009, 07:52 PM
Well I don't know about you. But I wasn't arguing. More like you said a gentleman's disagreement. But it was like me an FOZ, no real anger or anything. Just friendly rivalry. :D

Oh and Yak-3 wins every time. :P

as you say with the first part but i fear that the soviet winter has messed with your brain, you dont know what your saying."Oh and Yak-3 wins every time"

FOZ_1983
11-04-2009, 03:08 AM
Both the Hurricane and Spitfire had something that the Yak and the LaGG didn't have..... armour plating behind the pilot's seat and a firewall between the cockpit and the fuel tank. Ok im not sure how this fits in with the "engine" or "cool name" but erm.... thanks?

The I-i53 ahd a terrible reputation for the airflow blowing through the undercarriage well turning the cockpit into a blast furnace when the non-self sealing or armoured fuel tanks caught fire. It is because of this that Soviet pilots never felw with the canopy cover ftted, as they needed to escape in a hurry when hit.What exactly does this have to do with the yak/lag spitfire/hurricane?? or "cool name"?? :confused:


Panzer, yet again you confuse me with completely random talk lol.

Soviet Ace
11-04-2009, 03:15 AM
as you say with the first part but i fear that the soviet winter has messed with your brain, you dont know what your saying."Oh and Yak-3 wins every time"

I dunno if its the Soviet Winter, continuous work hours, or was Panzer's sudden ramble? But I think your right. lol

Vulcan607
11-04-2009, 06:30 PM
Reeto im steering a course for backontopic...
Avro Arrow!

Panzergranate
11-04-2009, 06:50 PM
Yeah, I don't recall Yak or La pilots complaining about their planes getting hit with some rounds, and gasoline spilling into the cockpit. :P But it was all to common for the Hurricanes and Spitfires, which were prone to that because of a fuel tank being right there in front of them.

So I know which I'd rather use. lol

I was refering to this misguided comment, but what with the pace of replies, it seems to have been forgotten.

The "Yak" is a large slow witted herbivore, an unusual choice for an aircraft name.

It didn't fair at all well against that other fighter named after a even larger slow witted herbivore, the "Buffalo" either.

If you want to see some weird names for aircraft, just check out the Royal Australian Airforce's name choices..... "Boomeriang", "Kangaroo", Wapitty", etc.

flynlion
11-04-2009, 07:44 PM
I was refering to this misguided comment, but what with the pace of replies, it seems to have been forgotten.

The "Yak" is a large slow witted herbivore, an unusual choice for an aircraft name.

It didn't fair at all well against that other fighter named after a even larger slow witted herbivore, the "Buffalo" either.

If you want to see some weird names for aircraft, just check out the Royal Australian Airforce's name choices..... "Boomeriang", "Kangaroo", Wapitty", etc.

Yak is short for Yakovlev, the Soviet bureau that designed it. I have no idea how the Brewster Buffalo got its name LoL.

Soviet Ace
11-04-2009, 08:39 PM
I was refering to this misguided comment, but what with the pace of replies, it seems to have been forgotten.

The "Yak" is a large slow witted herbivore, an unusual choice for an aircraft name.

It didn't fair at all well against that other fighter named after a even larger slow witted herbivore, the "Buffalo" either.

If you want to see some weird names for aircraft, just check out the Royal Australian Airforce's name choices..... "Boomeriang", "Kangaroo", Wapitty", etc.

Yak is short for Yakolev, the Soviet bureau that designed it. I have no idea how the Brewster Buffalo got its name LoL.

Yeah, what Flynlion said. It's not named after the creature, Yak.

Yakovlev (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Sergeevich_Yakovlev)

Araqiel
11-05-2009, 01:06 AM
I reckon the Buffalo was so named because you could fit one inside the fuselage.

Soviet Ace
11-05-2009, 03:22 AM
I reckon the Buffalo was so named because you could fit one inside the fuselage.

Actually, like all American planes. It was the British who started calling them the Buffalo first. And so is the same with the Wildcat, Warhawk/Tomahawk/Kittyhawk, and some others I can't think of right away. The Americans, just adopted the names given, and then gradually started giving names to their planes on their own.

FOZ_1983
11-05-2009, 06:17 PM
The "buffalo" was called the buffalo because it was fat/ugly and was pretty damn horrible, and a good game target :P

Ok thats bullsh*t but its good bullsh*t lol. :D

Vulcan607
11-05-2009, 06:29 PM
Ok thats bullsh*t but its good bullsh*t lol. :D

you could have at least changed it to Buffalo!

Araqiel
11-06-2009, 01:24 AM
Actually, like all American planes. It was the British who started calling them the Buffalo first. And so is the same with the Wildcat, Warhawk/Tomahawk/Kittyhawk, and some others I can't think of right away. The Americans, just adopted the names given, and then gradually started giving names to their planes on their own.

Yah, I wasn't being entirely serious with that one... :rolleyes: