normal controll or joystick for starter

[birdsofmay]

Hi folks I just orderd birds of prey for the xbox360. And I Don't really know if I should buy a joystick now. I came in contact with sturmovik by buying the pacific fighters expension for 1 euro at a fancy fair and never played it with a joystick. So should I use a joystick for the xbox version or just practise on arcade mode with a normall controller

and If you reccomand a controller please list the name and price :)

Edit: Yes I am a total new guy to flight sims and now verry little about the game and how it works on the Xbox360

[birdsofmay]

seems no one is active or willing to help :(

[caphead]

Guess it would depend on what you are comfortable with.. Lots of players do very well with the controller. I am not one of them, I used to play this sim on the PC and used some quality sticks. It makes a world of difference! I was originally excited that i was going to be able to fly with just the controller, but alas, I cannot..
I just received my new Saitek X52(second one i owned) and I am patiently waiting for the patch comming out so i can use it! PS3 by the way.

[manintrees]

Get a stick. It makes the game way more fun to play and it adds a touch of realism. I have the Thrustmaster HOTAS X and IMO it is the superior choice for value and performance. The Saitek AV8R3 pales comparison as it has less buttons, feels cheap and light, and is more expensive than the Tmaster HOTAS.

[birdsofmay]

thanks people

Now 1 more thing if you have time I never realy played pacific fighters long enough to really get to use all things and play at max diffeculty. And the engin management is confusing me is it easyier on the Xbox or is there some sort of guide(not in-game)

[caphead]

thanks people

Now 1 more thing if you have time I never realy played pacific fighters long enough to really get to use all things and play at max diffeculty. And the engin management is confusing me is it easyier on the Xbox or is there some sort of guide(not in-game)

far less complicated on the PS3/360 then the PC. no engine managment, no magneto, no prop pitch etc..

[birdsofmay]

and wingtip smoke feather prop, and your auto gunners I heard those were nerfed

[Ancient Seraph]

and wingtip smoke feather prop, and your auto gunners I heard those were nerfed

Nope, none of that stuff. Well, the auto gunners still aren't the best marksman, but guess that's a good thing. Just imagine the amount of buttons on a controller and that's the number of functions you have :). I'd advise a joystick btw, been flying a lot better with it than a controller.

[dario]

but how do you sit in front of your TV with a joystick? sitting on a couch you cant really use a joystick?

[Ancient Seraph]

but how do you sit in front of your TV with a joystick? sitting on a couch you cant really use a joystick?

I'm on a desk, I use my PC screen. No idea how other people do it :).

[dario]

I see-I am on a desk 8 hours a day at work :grin:
at home I want to relax.

[Ancient Seraph]

I see-I am on a desk 8 hours a day at work :grin:
at home I want to relax.

Haha, I can imagine. Probably people will tell you to fix something yourself, bolt it to a plank or something. Some people go a long way with that stuff, just google it ;).

[dario]

so one could say, that joystick players are more ambitous and have a advantage over gamepad players or is the difference not that big?

its like when you play a First Person Shooter and use mouse and keybord?

[Ancient Seraph]

so one could say, that joystick players are more ambitous and have a advantage over gamepad players or is the difference not that big?

its like when you play a First Person Shooter and use mouse and keybord?

Hmm.. it depends. Some people ace with controllers, others are better with joysticks. But I guess you don't know what suits you best until you try. I can say for sure there's no huge difference if you use a flight stick, even though I think most of the people use it. What console are you on?

[dario]

I am on xbox and to be honest, I am really bad at aiming with the gamepad :grin:

I can follow a plane quit long time but its more luck than skill when I shoot one donw :grin:

maybe I just have to practice more.

[Ancient Seraph]

I am on xbox and to be honest, I am really bad at aiming with the gamepad :grin:

I can follow a plane quit long time but its more luck than skill when I shoot one donw :grin:

maybe I just have to practice more.

Practice always helps. I did notice when using the joystick it's easier to maintain your crosshairs on the right position, making it less shaky.

[mattd27]

I'm a gamepad player and consider my self to be a competitive pilot (yet I still get schooled regularly by the IL2 veterans ;) ) so I think you can succeed with both really, it's just about personal preference.

[birdsofmay]

oke il give it a shot at just using normall controller in 2 days when I get it whish me luck :P

[birdsofmay]

Oh and thanks people I now have an idea what to do :P

[beaker126]

I play on the PS3, but this applies to the xbox also, far as I know. On realistic and sim difficulty settings, you're gonna want to turn down the aileron and elevator sensitivity settings when playing with a controller. Just how much is gonna depend on how it feels to you. Just a heads up, thought I'd help you avoid some frustration.