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mkubani
10-02-2009, 01:32 PM
On behalf of 1C:Maddox Games and Daidalos Team, here are the download links for the 4.09 patch.

We would like to thank all those who made their mirror servers available for the 4.09 patch download. S!

http://www.letka13.sk/~daidalos/Robo./409.jpg


4.09 English/International version:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3764
http://www.myotherdrive.com/dyn/dl/765.305317.01102009.17612.6a64fi/409m.exe
www.jgzbv.de/downloads/409m.exe
http://www.preservingfidelitysquad.nl/_div/409m.exe
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/409m.exe
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/409m.exe
http://www.diavolirossi.net/it/risorse/downloads/category/2-patches.html?download=13%3Apatch-4.09

4.09m English/International version - Torrent:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3760


4.09 Russian version:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3763
www.jgzbv.de/downloads/409m_ru.exe
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/409m_ru.exe
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/409m_ru.exe
http://www.freccetricolorivirtuali.net/index.php/attivita-di-volo/risorse/category/4-public.html?download=5%3A4.09m-russian


4.09 Dedicated Server:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3762
http://www.myotherdrive.com/dyn/dl/171.212017.01102009.97460.6a65fi/server409m.exe
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/server409m.exe
http://www.diavolirossi.net/it/risorse/downloads/category/2-patches.html?download=15%3A4.09-server


New Default skins - skins409m.exe:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3761
http://www.myotherdrive.com/dyn/dl/843.511517.01102009.97309.6a65fi/skins409m.exe
www.jgzbv.de/downloads/skins409m.exe
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/skins409m.exe
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/skins409m.exe
http://www.diavolirossi.net/it/risorse/downloads/category/2-patches.html?download=14%3Apatch-4.09-skins


4.09 PDF Guide:
http://www.virtualfightersquadrons.com/files?did=13
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/4.09_Guide.pdf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/4.09_Guide.pdf


4.09 Readme:
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/Readme_409m.rtf
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/Readme_409m_DE.rtf
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/Readme_409m_FR.rtf
http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/Readme_409m_RU.rtf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m.rtf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m_DE.rtf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m_FR.rtf
http://mambonight.co.uk/il2/Readme_409m_RU.rtf

6S.Maraz
10-02-2009, 01:36 PM
Some additional mirrors:

http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/4.09_Guide.pdf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/409m.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/409m_ru.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_DE.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_FR.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_RU.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/server409m.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/skins409m.exe

Maraz

6S.Manu
10-02-2009, 01:51 PM
Thanks Daidalos Team!!

FAE_Cazador
10-02-2009, 01:55 PM
Many thanks !!!!!

rakinroll
10-02-2009, 02:18 PM
Thank you gentlemen! :grin:

flying
10-02-2009, 02:39 PM
Great!!!!!! Thanks Daidalos Team !!!!!!

slm
10-02-2009, 02:51 PM
Is that M4Today torrent ok? I don't see the download button.

mkubani
10-02-2009, 02:54 PM
Probably not active yet.

proton45
10-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Cool, thanks guys!!!! :)

96th_Nightshifter
10-02-2009, 02:56 PM
Thank you for all the hard work guys!

Eki
10-02-2009, 03:05 PM
Thank you very much and keep up the good work!

jg27_mc
10-02-2009, 03:20 PM
Thank you Daidalos Team, Oleg and 1C.

~S~

T}{OR
10-02-2009, 03:21 PM
Thank you very much for this long overdue patch.

Btw. SM.79 is great :cool:

ECV56_Guevara
10-02-2009, 03:25 PM
Thanks DT!!!!!

Gret news to start the weekend!!!

438_Martin_591
10-02-2009, 03:38 PM
Fantastique!

Thank you so much!

C6_Krasno
10-02-2009, 03:42 PM
Many thanks !

Jolly_Magpie
10-02-2009, 03:42 PM
Thank you for this labour of love!! Cheers!

l88bastard
10-02-2009, 03:52 PM
can I get a link for the torrent....mission for today does not have the download button anywhere!!!!!

JG52Uther
10-02-2009, 03:54 PM
Fantastic!Thanks DT!

II/JG54_Emil
10-02-2009, 03:55 PM
can I get a link for the torrent....mission for today does not have the download button anywhere!!!!!

4.09m English/International version - Torrent: 4.09m English / International version - Torrent:
http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3760 http://www.mission4today.com/index.php?name=Downloads&file=details&id=3760

l88bastard
10-02-2009, 03:58 PM
Got it goin on, THANKS!!

Any idea how this will mess with the unified installer that I have, where I can select what version I want to play with?

JG52Uther
10-02-2009, 04:03 PM
It probably won't work.Make a new 'clean' copy,and patch over that.

Fergal69
10-02-2009, 04:05 PM
Thanks for this update & look forward to other updates - this makes up for not hearing anything regarding Storm of War

4S_Nero
10-02-2009, 04:06 PM
Bravo!Thanks DT! :grin::grin::grin::grin::grin::grin:

GAE_Charrua
10-02-2009, 04:12 PM
Thanks!!!!!!
Guys

EV401_Wolf
10-02-2009, 04:26 PM
Thx very much guys !!!!!!!!
:-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p :-p

Asheshouse
10-02-2009, 04:55 PM
This is just brilliant.
Thanks to all who have contributed.

Oktoberfest
10-02-2009, 05:15 PM
Timer for 4.09m final stopped after 2,5 years.

Timer for 4.10m just started.

Timer for Bob : 6 years.

Thanks for the patch TD, thanks soo much.

Whish you all the best for the next one. Please also ask Oleg if he can put some infos on SOW BTW.

skyfox
10-02-2009, 05:28 PM
Would be nice if the links worked. very frustrating. :mad:

csThor
10-02-2009, 05:52 PM
The webmaster of sturmovik.de reports a constant network load of 100% for the last 5 hours. :shock:

Luffe
10-02-2009, 05:58 PM
Some additional mirrors:

http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/4.09_Guide.pdf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/409m.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/409m_ru.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_DE.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_FR.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_RU.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/server409m.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/skins409m.exe

Maraz


Maraz, all the files from that site are incomplete. For example the 4.09m is 410MB when really it should be 567MB.

NeroMoura
10-02-2009, 05:59 PM
Thank you DT and 1C for another batch of countless hours of sheer fun :grin:

rollnloop
10-02-2009, 06:02 PM
Thanks a lot DT :)

MD_Zebo
10-02-2009, 06:06 PM
Some additional mirrors:

http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/4.09_Guide.pdf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/409m.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/409m_ru.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_DE.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_FR.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/Readme_409m_RU.rtf
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/server409m.exe
http://www.thestormbringers.com/Downloads/Il-2/409/skins409m.exe

Maraz

download is corrupt

MOH_Hirth
10-02-2009, 06:27 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1851/life460.jpg


ALELUIAH BROTHERS!!

Jolly_Magpie
10-02-2009, 07:40 PM
Two and a half years??? Incredible, didn't seem that long...

Gents, go for the torrent. I am seeding as long as possible, it went really fast on the download end.

BlueLion
10-02-2009, 07:44 PM
Two more mirrors, Rapidshare and FileFactory:

English/International Patch 4.09m (splitted archive):
http://rapidshare.com/files/287850663/409m.part1.rar (200MB)
http://rapidshare.com/files/287864892/409m.part2.rar (200MB)
http://rapidshare.com/files/287874629/409m.part3.rar (165MB)

http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0d822a/n/409m_part1_rar (200MB)
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0d822d/n/409m_part2_rar (200MB)
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0d8219/n/409m_part3_rar (165MB)


BlueLion

nearmiss
10-02-2009, 07:45 PM
http://img89.imageshack.us/img89/1851/life460.jpg


ALELUIAH BROTHERS!!

What is that dude doin' with the shoe in his hand?

That is some picture...

Anyway, it's great to have the FINAL 4.09 FINIS

hiro
10-02-2009, 08:48 PM
Can't wait


17 hours for the 409 and 6 for the skins
off of http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/ site


myotherdrive FTW.

still though have to wait since both my main and torrent pc are due for reimaging . . .

Chromius
10-02-2009, 09:32 PM
That Torrent is quite fast at the moment. I am in NZ and it took about 20 minutes at 900-1250 kbps. I tried a couple other links before the torrent but they were slow due to load or something.

Sita
10-02-2009, 09:35 PM
Спасибо ОГРОМНОЕ ребята!!! вам за ваш труд!!! Поклон до земли!!!
sorry, that i speaking not in english. :)

F16_Petter
10-02-2009, 09:49 PM
Providing two stable mirrors from Sweden:
(better late than never I guess)

International version only
Please read the installation instructions HERE (http://www.f16vs.se/news.php?extend.7.3)
No registration or anything fuzzy needed, just chose one of these links for the files, two mirrors provided:

http://www.flygflottilj16.se/fil/409m.exe
http://www.f16vs.se/download.php?list.2

Will add the skins tomorrow!
Thank you DT and MG!

proton45
10-02-2009, 11:07 PM
I see a lot of people complaining about incomplete downloads...is the proper size 566 MB for the executable, and 260 MB for the skins?

fabianfred
10-02-2009, 11:07 PM
What is that dude doin' with the shoe in his hand?

That is some picture...

Anyway, it's great to have the FINAL 4.09 FINIS

They are the shoe-ites! It is a sign!...... he hurt my foot!

(Haven't you seen Monty Python and the Life of Brian?)

Letum
10-02-2009, 11:11 PM
Thanks guys!

Schuetz
10-02-2009, 11:14 PM
Thank you!

Gryphon_
10-02-2009, 11:20 PM
Maraz, all the files from that site are incomplete. For example the 4.09m is 410MB when really it should be 567MB.

Yep I just downloaded them and they fail on install. This mirror is broken - pull it

nearmiss
10-03-2009, 12:02 AM
Yep I just downloaded them and they fail on install. This mirror is broken - pull it

Tell us which mirror? Save us some research time.

nearmiss
10-03-2009, 12:04 AM
They are the shoe-ites! It is a sign!...... he hurt my foot!

(Haven't you seen Monty Python and the Life of Brian?)

I guess my penchant for history doesn't include MP. LOL

Flakiten
10-03-2009, 12:53 AM
I'm glad that this upgrade has been released.

I am also glad you're using the model I have created for paraflares (Originally Mk-24 Flares). Unfortunately in the credits of Letov S-328 (that use it) are only for Daidalos Team......Maybe you have forgotten my name :rolleyes:

S!

dl-3b
10-03-2009, 02:25 AM
Great work!!
Thanks-a-lot DT, Oleg and team and all other participants.

zapatista
10-03-2009, 03:49 AM
The webmaster of sturmovik.de reports a constant network load of 100% for the last 5 hours. :shock:

and it craps out

was downloading at 50kbsec from them and overnight when being halfway into it, it stalled and stopped


can we have a normal torrent for this ? without having to sign up for memberships in various websites like the mission4today forces you ?

or can somebody post the actual real torrent link so we can bypass the forced signup ?

edit: all is well, 12hrs later the .de download worked fine, 50 kbsec all the way

proton45
10-03-2009, 04:03 AM
I didn't have a problem downloading the files...but i don't remember which ones I clicked on. I think it was this one (ex):

http://by.sturmovik.de/DaidalosTeam/409m.exe

thanks again

leitmotiv
10-03-2009, 04:56 AM
Complements---I never thought I'd see an I-16 Type 5. Wonderful choice to go with the Fokker.

II./JG1_Wilcke
10-03-2009, 05:20 AM
Thanks to the team and their hard work and dedication, throughout the years software comes and goes off my HD but IL-2 is still there from the original release.

Many thanks!

NSU
10-03-2009, 06:33 AM
Thanks Daidalos Team for your work :-)

mkubani
10-03-2009, 06:45 AM
Hello Flakiten. Para flares have been offered to us as a bonus loadout option for Letov by Magot (who is credited). If this is your work or if you have cooperated with him, I see 2 solutions. We either add your credits in our next release or we remove the flares in our next release. Please let me know what you prefer. Thanks. I'm glad that this upgrade has been released.

I am also glad you're using the model I have created for paraflares (Originally Mk-24 Flares). Unfortunately in the credits of Letov S-328 (that use it) are only for Daidalos Team......Maybe you have forgotten my name :rolleyes:

S!

Sonko
10-03-2009, 06:50 AM
Hi, thank you very much for the update and the mirrors!
How about a torrent for the skins aswell?

Genosse
10-03-2009, 07:08 AM
I´m quite grateful for releasing this long awaited patch. I´ve been flying this sim now for seven years and I´m really delighted that it still gets improved by more or less official side ... at least supported.

I´d like to see more improvements being done on this wonderful piece of software. There´re already some interesting ideas out there in the IL-2 community which are IMHO considerably worth to be included into future patches ...

Nonetheless, thank you DT for creating this patch, Oleg and Crew for not letting the IL-2 community down although you guys are obviously quite busy with other projects and finally all virtual pilots flying, loving and hating IL-2 so often/much ...

S! :grin:

Fergal69
10-03-2009, 07:10 AM
Thanks to the team and their hard work and dedication, throughout the years software comes and goes off my HD but IL-2 is still there from the original release.

Many thanks!

I agree...... IL2 is the one software program that has always been on my hard drive as well.

wheelsup_cavu
10-03-2009, 07:50 AM
Thanks Team Daidalos and Oleg. :grin:
It took a while but I finally got it.
Nothing like being the only one trying to get something. :lol:


Wheels

BlueLion
10-03-2009, 08:59 AM
4.09m Skins.
Rapidshare:
http://rapidshare.com/files/288067757/skins409m.part1.exe (200MB)
http://rapidshare.com/files/288072772/skins409m.part2.rar (61MB)

FileFactory:
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0ea6fc/n/skins409m_part1_exe (200MB)
http://www.filefactory.com/file/a0ea6dg/n/skins409m_part2_rar (61MB)


BL

Fall_Pink?
10-03-2009, 09:26 AM
Team daidalos,

Great and a big thank you for all the hard work ;-)

Regards,
Mark

WhiteSnake
10-03-2009, 09:35 AM
Could anyone put the files available for download on Gamershell please?

cmirko
10-03-2009, 10:13 AM
open tracker torrents

http://161.53.204.25/TEST/409m.exe.torrent
http://161.53.204.25/TEST/409m_skins+docu.torrent
http://161.53.204.25/TEST/server409m.torrent


cheers

cmirko
10-03-2009, 10:32 AM
if you have the files already, pls join the torrent swarm anyway :)

bigbossmalone
10-03-2009, 11:01 AM
Just a quick word of thanks to all the TD guys involved with this great patch, and of course, to Oleg and everyone at 1C, for their continued support.
From myself, and the whole team at SAS.
Thanks to all!

F16_Petter
10-03-2009, 01:01 PM
Providing two stable mirrors from Sweden:
(better late than never I guess)

International version only
Please read the installation instructions HERE (http://www.f16vs.se/news.php?extend.7.3)
No registration or anything fuzzy needed, just chose one of these links for the files, two mirrors provided:

http://www.flygflottilj16.se/fil/409m.exe
http://www.f16vs.se/download.php?list.2

Will add the skins tomorrow!
Thank you DT and MG!

As promised, here are the two mirrors for the skins:

http://www.f16vs.se/download.php?view.2
And another direct link:
http://www.flygflottilj16.se/fil/skins409m.exe

Enjoy!

jetdriver
10-03-2009, 09:22 PM
Thanks!

Flakiten
10-03-2009, 11:31 PM
Hello Flakiten. Para flares have been offered to us as a bonus loadout option for Letov by Magot (who is credited). If this is your work or if you have cooperated with him, I see 2 solutions. We either add your credits in our next release or we remove the flares in our next release. Please let me know what you prefer. Thanks.

I have no problem that my work will be distributed free to the entire community.
I like doing it for fun and for the use of the people.
But I do not like to see other names as credits in my work.

Magot send me a PM and I am sending a PM to you to talk about.

Thanks for the quick answer.

Best regards, Flak.

FAE Aguila
10-04-2009, 09:11 AM
Many thanks to all that contributed to make this patch, so we all can enjoy it.
We appreciate your efforts and the time you have spent on it. ;)
Now.. lets fly !!

FAE Aguila

ramstein
10-04-2009, 11:00 AM
open tracker torrents

http://161.53.204.25/TEST/409m.exe.torrent
http://161.53.204.25/TEST/409m_skins+docu.torrent
http://161.53.204.25/TEST/server409m.torrent


cheers

I am am seeding the 4.09m Torrent.. I am trying to give back to the community..

TheGrunch
10-04-2009, 06:27 PM
Many thanks for the patch, Daidalos Team! Nice to see this game continuing to grow. Especially nice to see that DT are putting out just as high if not higher quality additions as Maddox Games did.

Tricorder
10-04-2009, 08:30 PM
Thanks for the great work!

The new Biplane is now my favourite one, it tolerates the most ridiculous manoeuvres €:-]

Where can one buy this plane in real life ( in case of me being rich some day @:-| )?

mkubani
10-05-2009, 10:11 AM
Tricoder, a track? Or real constructive/descriptive comment?

Avia B-534 has been tested at least by 2 real life pilots (one military one, one civilian one) during 4.09 beta-testing. They had no issues with it's FM. They found the flight characteristics believable and solid.

=FPS=Salsero
10-05-2009, 01:30 PM
Sorry guys, but mambonight.co.uk cannot mirror the patch any more.... :(

Kwiatek
10-05-2009, 04:20 PM
Tricoder, a track? Or real constructive/descriptive comment?

Avia B-534 has been tested at least by 2 real life pilots (one military one, one civilian one) during 4.09 beta-testing. They had no issues with it's FM. They found the flight characteristics believable and solid.


Is it a hope that old planes also would be corrected in future - mostly in performance values ? I mean at least such planes:

- Spitfires MK V - atually we have hybride version with too low speed at sea level and too good climb rate - it doesnt not represent any known data for Spits MK V

- Fw 190 A series - acceleration bug - all Fw 190 A accelerate too slow in game. I know where it is these bug in Fw 190 A FM data ( it was actually fixed in some new added ones)

- many 109 types has wrong data and not accurate performance ( e.x 109 E-4, 109 G-2, 109 6 A/S)

- P-51 with its wing broken during high speed manouvers and directional unstabilty - it could be fixed in simple way

and some others - I dont mention here most dubfully russian planes like LA familly series.

It is hope that it would be fixed in normal official patch relase that we all could have the same basic version not in many second hand mods?

ramstein
10-05-2009, 06:37 PM
Tricoder, a track? Or real constructive/descriptive comment?

Avia B-534 has been tested at least by 2 real life pilots (one military one, one civilian one) during 4.09 beta-testing. They had no issues with it's FM. They found the flight characteristics believable and solid.

Our squad has a pilot who flew Hellcats (and also early jets) off carriers and was an engineering for Boeing aircraft, yet Oleg refused what he was told..
and was told in extremely legnthy details.. in the mathmetics of the flight models..

Many, many pages of aeronotcal info was passed on to Oleg..

so, it doesn't seem to matter if you bring in real people and engineers, Oleg was only interested in leveling the playing field so they would fly as he imagned they flew..

Not Bashing Oleg and his team, as he did his best,,, but when it came down to fixing the problems and listening they abandoned the allied planes..

So now some of you new comers can see some of the history that came about when many of these planes were added a few years ago..

Thank you Daidalos Team! You will makee so many of us happy with your efforts and your continuing work and patch 4.09!

csThor
10-05-2009, 06:42 PM
Many, many pages of aeronotcal info was passed on to Oleg..

Problem: Anecdotal stuff can't be used to base FM numbers on it.

Not Bashing Oleg and his team, as he did his best,,, but when it came down to fixing the problems and listening they abandoned the allied planes..

That's actually quite a low blow. There are more than a few axis aircraft which do have serious issues as well and most were not even acknowledged, either. Having FM/DM issues is no question of Red or Blue (or even nation or not), but simply a result of a myriad of issues Maddox Games as a business entity had to deal with and which all impacted on how deeply they could afford to delve into issues. I'm learning something new every day over at the Daidalos board and some things are becoming logical if you look at them from the perspective of a developer who has to calculate manpower and financial input vs potential financial gain.

SturmKreator
10-05-2009, 06:53 PM
Is it a hope that old planes also would be corrected in future - mostly in performance values ? I mean at least such planes:

- Spitfires MK V - atually we have hybride version with too low speed at sea level and too good climb rate - it doesnt not represent any known data for Spits MK V

- Fw 190 A series - acceleration bug - all Fw 190 A accelerate too slow in game. I know where it is these bug in Fw 190 A FM data ( it was actually fixed in some new added ones)

- many 109 types has wrong data and not accurate performance ( e.x 109 E-4, 109 G-2, 109 6 A/S)

- P-51 with its wing broken during high speed manouvers and directional unstabilty - it could be fixed in simple way

and some others - I dont mention here most dubfully russian planes like LA familly series.

It is hope that it would be fixed in normal official patch relase that we all could have the same basic version not in many second hand mods?

totally agreed with tihs comment, i say the same as you said, fw190 in the real life is capable to reach 1800hp without any boost, in the game the fw190A have only 1400hp, 400hp less, thats is the reason

csThor
10-05-2009, 07:03 PM
Not necessarily. The BMW 801 D-2 was not cleared for the full 1700PS Take-Off performance right away, but was derated (= blocking Take-Off and Emergency performance settings via putting a screw into the throttle's way). This was done to minimize the danger of engine damage and to prolong its life which eased logistical questions. But of course pilots had different ideas about it and so they chose power (when necessary) over safety in numbers. ;)

LesniHU
10-05-2009, 07:49 PM
totally agreed with tihs comment, i say the same as you said, fw190 in the real life is capable to reach 1800hp without any boost, in the game the fw190A have only 1400hp, 400hp less, thats is the reasonWrong.
-less hp can be compensated by other parameters from both engine and airframe parameters and usually is (does it reach correct max speed even with low hp? Why?)
-ingame FW190A4 does not have only 1400hp, it has more than 1800.
You can't rely on one number from some stranger on internet without knowing context and meaning of other numbers around.


@ramstein: if you still have that info, please post it on forum or send to DT mail. It could be very interesting read.

ramstein
10-05-2009, 07:58 PM
Wrong.
-less hp can be compensated by other parameters from both engine and airframe parameters and usually is (does it reach correct max speed even with low hp? Why?)
-ingame FW190A4 does not .....................................

@ramstein: if you still have that info, please post it on forum or send to DT mail. It could be very interesting read.

well, I know the person who has it, or had it, I am pretty sure they were exaserbated after the whole thinhg, and not sure if they will help again... they pretty much gave up and was resigned to the problems never being fixed.. I wil ask them very soon, if they would provide it, but I am pretty sure the package they have and submitted was not just a forum post, it was very heavy information.. so They would probably need direct communication... and it would have to be taken serious... not just forum banter.. this person is a professional...

FC99
10-05-2009, 08:42 PM
Is it a hope that old planes also would be corrected in future - mostly in performance values ? I mean at least such planes:

- Spitfires MK V - atually we have hybride version with too low speed at sea level and too good climb rate - it doesnt not represent any known data for Spits MK V

- Fw 190 A series - acceleration bug - all Fw 190 A accelerate too slow in game. I know where it is these bug in Fw 190 A FM data ( it was actually fixed in some new added ones)

- many 109 types has wrong data and not accurate performance ( e.x 109 E-4, 109 G-2, 109 6 A/S)

- P-51 with its wing broken during high speed manouvers and directional unstabilty - it could be fixed in simple way

We will try to fix everything that we can and that it can be backuped with documentation.

Spits-If you have some info about the Spits you can PM me, I know that it is possible to find lot of info at "Spitfireperformance" but if you have already found most representative variants than you could save me some time. Mostly interested in MkV and early MkIX.

FW-I would hardly call it a bug although low speed acceleration could be better IMO. I don't see,though, how would that improvement be of much help for average pilot unless you over do it. If I'm not mistaken you made some FW's for Ultrapack and just by looking at FM files I would say that these FW's are too optimistic. You can PM me what you think would be realistic performance of FW and I'll see what can be done.

Bf109-they are strange in general, major rework of whole family wouldn't hurt IMO.

P51-now I'm curious,:grin: I would love to hear what you think should be done to make plane behave correctly.

FC

II/JG54_Emil
10-05-2009, 09:00 PM
This is a good resource for FW-190 fans:
http://old.acompletewasteofspace.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewforum&f=8

tango2delta
10-06-2009, 12:46 AM
Thank you very much Team!
My FPS are the best i have ever seen, and the aircraft flicker is gone, and now i am able to run water 2. I could not run perfect with 4.08 or 4.09 beta.
Thanks for what ever your team did.:grin:

lep1981
10-06-2009, 09:47 AM
Hello guys and Developer team,

One observation I have concerning to the Fw-190 D9 and refering to its turning rate and handling, it's its tendency to stall with a very gentle pulling of the stick. As historical references show, the "Dora" while being slower in the rolling ability compared to its earlier versions ( Fw A series) it was superior in every other way, including of course, turning rate, climbing, etc etc... Most of these characteristics I find accurate in the game, however the turning ability I consider it to be a bit messed up, and I believe the Dora show offer a bit more control in turns than it currently does in game.

For developing references you can visit:

http://germanmilitaryhistory.devhub.com/blog/2009/09/24/focke-wulf-fw-190-d-dora

Thanks!

SlipBall
10-06-2009, 10:53 PM
Just wanted to say thankyou to Oleg and the D team. So much new, so many new choice's when useing, it really is like a new sim for me. It sure will keep me busy till SOW appears on the market, thanks again.
~S~

dflion
10-06-2009, 10:55 PM
Thanks for posting the article on the Dora 9 'lep 1981'. This summary very accurately describes the performance of the Dora 9.
I think the aircraft is very faithfully modelled in the game and just takes practice to get a grip on it.
If you keep up your speed in a turning fight it will hold its own with the Spitfire. If you turn too sharply it will easily flick into a spin, which is fatal if you are near the ground - this is what happened to a lot of young inexperienced German pilots in III/JG54 and I/JG26.

For Team Daidalos I would like them to fix a couple of things with the aircraft. (I am enjoying the fantastic 4.09 upgrade - well done)

The AI aircraft from a distance have a large 'graphic hole' in the fuselage. This has been a fault all the way through the history of the game. I would also like to see the aircraft model modified to carry a 250kg bomb and droptank?

DFLion

ramstein
10-07-2009, 10:48 AM
Problem: Anecdotal stuff can't be used to base FM numbers on it.



That's actually quite a low blow. There are more than a few axis aircraft which do have serious issues as well and most were not even acknowledged, either. Having FM/DM issues is no question of Red or Blue (or even nation or not), but simply a result of a myriad of issues Maddox Games as a business entity had to deal with and which all impacted on how deeply they could afford to delve into issues. I'm learning something new every day over at the Daidalos board and some things are becoming logical if you look at them from the perspective of a developer who has to calculate manpower and financial input vs potential financial gain.

I said aeronautical (sorry, the first time I spelled it wrong..) info, I did not say ancedotal... please re-read.._

also, I talked to him and he said he would be willing to give it another go and communicate with the people who are making the patches..

Is there an e-mail address I can pass on to the pilot and engineer so he can chat with you (the powers that be..and send you the info you need?

Thanx..

Brain32
10-07-2009, 11:07 AM
Interesting stuff here, however I only have one wish(I have full confidence others will be looked at :) ) and that's 20mm for G10/G14 as a loadout option...

Also is there a possibility of a DT's FW190A3? I know we have A4 and that A3 maybe wouldn't be a needed so much but as a FW nutcase I have to ask ;)

He111
10-11-2009, 02:17 PM
Thanks team, looks fantastic.

Sad to read the Sm79 was such a failure. So many aircraft lost for such small rewards! I always thought it was a success. But I suspect alot of those losses were in the later part of the italian war.

.

1.JaVA_Jumper
10-11-2009, 05:05 PM
Many thanks indeed, the fokker is great!!!

Grt from Holland

1.JaVA_Jumper:-P

HFC_Dolphin
10-11-2009, 06:31 PM
Just seeing the...53.13 MB of the 4.09 guide, you can only say: OMG!!!

Guys, thank you so much for this fantastic work.
You totally deserve our respect!!!

vtrelut
10-13-2009, 07:27 AM
Thanks a lot to Team Daidalos and 1C Company for this release. Outstanding work, really!

jamesdietz
10-16-2009, 02:57 PM
Can anyone tell me if this is compatable with AAA & SAS Mods up to but not including the most recent AAA U.I. 1.2 Installer?

Eries
10-16-2009, 04:02 PM
Can anyone tell me if this is compatable with AAA & SAS Mods up to but not including the most recent AAA U.I. 1.2 Installer?

Go into your il2 directory and overwrite your "conf.ini." with a blank file.
Delete any and all .dll files you find in your il2 file.

Install 4.09m and you'll be fine :grin:

jamesdietz
10-16-2009, 04:28 PM
Go into your il2 directory and overwrite your "conf.ini." with a blank file.
Delete any and all .dll files you find in your il2 file.

Install 4.09m and you'll be fine :grin:

Can you quickly walk me thru overwriting conf.ini file? If I do this won't I loose all of the Map notations for QMT?
All .dll files found in the il2 folder or a file in the folder somewhere?
Thanks for your patience I do want to give this a try!

Lucas_From_Hell
10-16-2009, 04:49 PM
Just do a back-up.

Rename it to "Conf_ORG.ini" (my suggestion, of course. I always rename it to filename_ORG.filetype. Makes it easier to undo any sort of sh... you may make with it.)

I guess that by "Blank" he means to create a notepad file, save it with nothing written on it, and rename it to "Conf.ini". That should do the trick (I'm no mod-user, but, if I got right what Eries said, this should work).

BSOC-Renegade
10-17-2009, 09:31 PM
Thanks to DT :grin:

I liked the beta version, especially the Slovakia map. The FM mods were a distinct improvement.

OK, now: will this version install over v4.09b1?

If not, then how do I get rid of the beta?

Thank you

BSOC-Renegade
10-17-2009, 10:03 PM
Hello guys and Developer team,

One observation I have concerning to the Fw-190 D9 and refering to its turning rate and handling, it's its tendency to stall with a very gentle pulling of the stick. As historical references show, the "Dora" while being slower in the rolling ability compared to its earlier versions ( Fw A series) it was superior in every other way, including of course, turning rate, climbing, etc etc... Most of these characteristics I find accurate in the game, however the turning ability I consider it to be a bit messed up, and I believe the Dora show offer a bit more control in turns than it currently does in game.

For developing references you can visit:

http://germanmilitaryhistory.devhub.com/blog/2009/09/24/focke-wulf-fw-190-d-dora

Thanks!


Personally, as a regular FW-190A-9 flier on-line I found D-9's were better on the turn than my A-9 or A-8 and I had to be careful when engaging them because of it. On those occasions where I took a D-9 up I found it quite capable of out-turning Antons ... I just had a hard time hitting them (or anything else, for that matter, LOL. I have always had gunnery problems in D-9's for some reason :? ).

I suspect you are not using your rudder correctly during turns. Try drilling by going up against an AI Ace in a Spit IXe in QMB and fight it on the turn. Pay attention to your rudder usage.

DuxCorvan
10-18-2009, 09:34 AM
Any chance to have the PZL P.11c better merged with the rest of the set? I mean, I know that it was an obsolescent, slow and poorly armed plane for WW2 standards, but still I'm sure it's quite undermodeled and abandoned in the sim. A new, not necesarily outstanding cockpit would be also great: something that doesn't feel like coming from a sim of the 80's.

PilotError
11-01-2009, 09:34 PM
I thought it was about time I stopped just watching this forum and got round to thanking ( belatedly ) Team Daidalos for all their hard work in bringing us the 4.09 add on. It is very much appreciated.

And good luck with the future add ons :grin:

Thanks,

PilotError.

Jambock_Sydy
01-01-2010, 09:37 PM
Hi guys,

I have been away due to RL work, but this new vs made me come back!

Thank you for such nice simulator. It has been a plesure to fly it during all those years!

By the way, what was the release date for the very firts IL-2 version? I don't remember it anymore.

All the best,

Sydy

Insuber
01-01-2010, 10:26 PM
Il-2 release date: November 18th, 2001.

Eldur
01-01-2010, 10:39 PM
Il-2 release date: November 18th, 2001.

I bought it 8 days later which was the "street day" here in Germany...

danielhigh
06-13-2010, 05:59 PM
no download available getting error message about logging in but im logged in?

Asheshouse
06-14-2010, 12:37 PM
This works ok for me.
http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=10276

bf-110
06-14-2010, 10:35 PM
I´m getting here every day,more than twice a day to see if 4.10 was released.
This time when I looked at this thread I really thought the new planes raid had started...:(

Mr.Sarvanto
11-14-2010, 01:37 PM
I´see many broken links, but thanks alot anyway :!::!::!:

Grams79
01-08-2011, 05:04 PM
Another permanent link for downloading the international 4.09m.exe
http://www.filefront.com/14745363/409m.exe
:cool: