To all bf-109 fans like me: which one is best?

[mattmanB182]

I always fly the G-6 (Yet to unlock the G10 or K-4),but sometimes I see people still flying E's and F's. I know darn well some of these people have unlocked the others, but choose not to fly them.

Is there a reason for this? Which model do you guys use/do best with?

FYI: I play on realistic 99% of the time.

[gbtstr]

I'd say I've had my best rounds on realistic with the E-3 and G-6.

I think the E-3 is a decent dogfighter. I like the F-4 for dogfighting as well, but I'm not exactly a crack shot, so the extra cannon on the E-3 helps. The G-6 is just a beast if you can get a nice tracking shot (sometimes a snapshot will do just as well) but I don't think it handles as well as either the E-3 or F-4.

Now, I played a couple rounds of simulator with the E and F and did fairly well with both, but got more kills with the E.

Just my take.

[Marchochias]

I use the G-6 as well, but I haven't tried the E or F series enough to see any advantages they would have over the Gustav.

I think the game has a typo with the G-6 armament, it says "2 machine guns and 3 30 mm cannons" when I think the actual armament is 4 machine guns and one 30 mm cannon.

[merro]

I take the G6 90% of the time. I do like to fly the G2 also (seems a little less heavy then the G6).
The G6 is just the bomb, fast, weapons shred enemys in seconds, just feels a bit heavy in turn fights, but good climb rate and speed usually help to stay on top in a dogfight.
Can´t wait to get the K4 (but that will still take me a while)

[SeaCat]

I use the G-6 for now, I can't aim very well with the center guns of the F-4, even when I'm right ontop of them. Once we have German cockpits, I'll probably be in the F-4. Fast and nimble. I've unlocked the 109K but I'm not a fan. Feels sluggish, even for a 109.

[Steyr_amr]

F-4 for dealing with fighters, K-4 for bomber busting. Unless a B-17 appears in which case Me-262.

When I'm not bombing myself, that is.

[Benrizz]

Well I found that the G6 is a heavy fat big pig :rolleyes: EDIT with big balls though

Don't now really well the others, I will test them in free flight (especially the F4)

[dazz1971]

well ive been using the g6 but allways seem to lose out in a turning battle see my thread what am i doing wrong the k4 is even more of a flying brick when it comes to turning etc you have to really keep an eye on your speed
all i can say is stay FAST and get really close before you let rip with the guns becuse at close range they will eat any other plane in seconds :):)

i think they are best suited to boom n zoom tactics so if you good at boom and zoom (i aint lol) then these are ideal planes to use

ive just started using la7 yak 3 and they seem to be a lot more niffty :)

[juz1]

used to fly the G6 until I got served a large helping of whoop ass with a side order of lead by a certain member of this forum...

Since then have had great games on the G2...wonderfully chuckable plane...

last time out I was all over enemy G6/10s and K4s like a cheap suit...
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[Marchochias]

I didn't know the Gustav was heavier on the controls, I was outturning the highest mark of Spitfire quite a few times in realistic and simulator battles. Probably just that the players weren't doing it right.

When you get a lucky hit with 30 mm in the G-6 its great, killed a stuka in one hit with it.

[Kamak86]

G6, it is the all around better fighter then the other 109s. It varies with the person who flys it. My forte is the g6. I ve tried th K-4 and the G10 and it just doesnt live up to the G6 for me. Either does the F4 or E3 which i havent used since I unlocked the G series. I have yet to fly the G2. I rarely find people who can out gun me in my G6, there are a few who can exploit the 109s weakness.

[fritzwendel]

I'm working on getting the K-4, but for me the G-6 is tops.

Easy to fly, fast, and rips Sh*t up when you get a good shot in.

:evil:

It's just a great plane all around for me, and is forgiving in its handling compared to some of the planes I have commandeered for MP.

[dazz1971]

I'm working on getting the K-4, but for me the G-6 is tops.

Easy to fly, fast, and rips Sh*t up when you get a good shot in.

:evil:

It's just a great plane all around for me, and is forgiving in its handling compared to some of the planes I have commandeered for MP.

I used to think the same about the g6 but im starting to find that other players are out turning /flying me too much ???

[fritzwendel]

I used to think the same about the g6 but im starting to find that other players are out turning /flying me too much ???

Well, I don't try to turnfight with craft I know I can't beat in a turn. Generally the best turning speed for the G-6(to me) is 180-215 mph.

I usually BnZ or sneak in behind someone else in a turnfight who is not expecting me.

[Ancient Seraph]

I used to think the same about the g6 but im starting to find that other players are out turning /flying me too much ???

None of the 109's are great turners. You should rely on B&Z tactics with them, although B&Z isn't very effective (yet) in BoP.

[akuma]

I always fly the G-6 (Yet to unlock the G10 or K-4),but sometimes I see people still flying E's and F's. I know darn well some of these people have unlocked the others, but choose not to fly them.

Is there a reason for this? Which model do you guys use/do best with?

FYI: I play on realistic 99% of the time.

I'm not a fan of the 6, sure its got more guns that a third world county, but the recoil when you pull the trigger is silly and makes accurate shooting impossible unless your on top of the target.

For this reason I chose the F, its guns and cannons are nose mounted so sway is limited to none when firing.

I know thats not everyones cup of tea, but its the way I like to fly. :cool:

[Robotic Pope]

I use the G-6 as well, but I haven't tried the E or F series enough to see any advantages they would have over the Gustav.

I think the game has a typo with the G-6 armament, it says "2 machine guns and 3 30 mm cannons" when I think the actual armament is 4 machine guns and one 30 mm cannon.

No, It is Correct.

None of the Me109G's had any weapons inside the wing. They ALL had One 20mm or later One 30mm Cannon in the engine and Two machine guns ubove the engine.(G-2 has 8mm mg's, G-6 replaced these with 13mm mg's)

In BoP the 109's with 3 cannons are fitted with the conformal gondola 20mm wing cannons. These were great at taking out bombers but pretty much destroyed the planes ability to dogfight. They were usualy used as night fighters.

The 109K introduced 2 internal 30mm in the wings, so although still adding to the weight, but without the drag and restored the handling somewhat.

The 109F should be the best handling of all. It had more power than the Emil for not much additional weight. It also had the improved wing design which the Emil didn't.

The Gustav really added too much power and weight for the airframe. It was a dangerous plane for the german pilots, thay had to be carefull or their own plane could kill them.

[Marchochias]

Ah, so the 109 G-6 and 109K actually do have 3 cannons as well as 2 machine guns, interesting.

Especially if it doesn't hurt the K's handling as much as it does the G-6's. I found the G-6 to be a decent enough dogfighter, I blew up plenty of Spitfire MXIs with it. Though of course their pilots didn't seem to know anything than trying to just turn with their enemy every time, like someone flying in BF1943 :d

[ChankyChank]

I think the G-10 handles very well, it's the fastest 109 on the game. It still doesn't have the acceleration of a spit so be careful. I usually fly the K-4 just because the G-10's armament is utterly dissapointing once I became accustomd to flying the K-4. 109s can turn with a spit or an LA at the right speeds, but it requires so much energy that you can't sustain the same radius as them. Manage your energy, try to stay above your target while they turn, let them kill their energy. Most spit or LA pilots immediately enter a turn when you engage each other, I try to go high, dive back in while they're bleeding energy to get a burst in. If you hit them, their controls are definitely going to be affected. If you miss you may want to disengage and come back when you've regained an advantage. Be patient-if they are multiple people playing wait for them to engage each other and dive in the back of the line. I've been able to score 4-5 consecutive kills with limited ammo in a K4 riding the train

[Marchochias]

Whats the G10 and K4 armament?

[ChankyChank]

K4=3 cannons 2 machine gun G10=1 cannon two machine guns.

[SgtPappy]

I prefer the 109F myself.

F-4 to be precise. Light, fast,maneuverable. I think it's the best balance of all 109's, and I don't care much for the light armament.

The G-6, IMO, is really just a fat G-2. Just has gondola hardpoints and whatnot.

That said, all 109's are fun. In other sims, I've rarely been ever shot down in one.

[Robotic Pope]

No, It is Correct.

None of the Me109G's had any weapons inside the wing. They ALL had One 20mm or later One 30mm Cannon in the engine and Two machine guns ubove the engine.(G-2 has 8mm mg's, G-6 replaced these with 13mm mg's)

In BoP the 109's with 3 cannons are fitted with the conformal gondola 20mm wing cannons. These were great at taking out bombers but pretty much destroyed the planes ability to dogfight. They were usualy used as night fighters.

The 109K introduced 2 internal 30mm in the wings, so although still adding to the weight, but without the drag and restored the handling somewhat.

The 109F should be the best handling of all. It had more power than the Emil for not much additional weight. It also had the improved wing design which the Emil didn't.

The Gustav really added too much power and weight for the airframe. It was a dangerous plane for the german pilots, thay had to be carefull or their own plane could kill them.

I should say that the 109K-4 from BoP, still has the gondola cannons of the G-6. It was with the 109K-6 that added internal wing cannons.

[mattmanB182]

Just an update here: When I first flew the K-4 in a fight, i thought it was a crate, and I did terrible. But now I really love the K-4, if you know how to fly it, it can be a beast even on team battle.

I dont stress hard over getting in turning fights. If he starts to bank hard, I simply change to another target of opportunity. It does not take much from a K-4's armament to take down an enemy plane.


Its not the best handeling, and it is heavy, but its very fast. Its armament can take down anything fairly easily.

One more thing I would like to add: Many of you will disagree, but the K-4 seems to be a much more stable gun platform than the G-6. I actually score hits much more easily using the K-4. It has really become my favorite 109. And it can take quite a few hits before control is lost.

[DoraNine]

I almost exclusively fly the 109s (as most people have probably noticed), because the FW190s and American planes are so poorly modeled in the console version. Until I got the 109K model -- I only flew the G6, as it makes up for my lack of gunnery skills with serious firepower. After a few weeks of disproportionate beat-downs from Hurri IIs, Spits, and La-5's -- I changed the way I was flying -- and stopped trying turn with everyone. As soon as I did this -- I started doing more killing than dying, and thus finally earned the K model alot sooner than I thought I would. I now fly with the K model, and while I don't get near the number of kills as the turn-fighters get -- I rarely ever get shot down anymore, because I've learned the fine art of "running away";). If I can't get you at the beginning of the turn, I just break off, haul ass away, turn around, and fly back in for another chance. I've just about got the head-on attack down to a science (since it represents the majority of my opportunities). In a head-on fly-by with just about any allied models, you will be throwing down alot more lead than they are. Most of them will always try to follow, and once I get about 5000 feet away, I just turn around and the game of chicken begins. If you've ever flown against TUR-KISH, he uses the same tactic. To be sure, this isn't as fun as turning in circles -- but if you are going to fly this plane -- its just the way it is.

I prefer the K model, as its the best for my style of flying and skill level.

[Doktorwzzerd]

Seraph started a great thread on all of the plane types that lays out the diffs between 109 models, check it out (http://forum.1cpublishing.eu/showthread.php?t=10456). I only have the F-4 and E-3 unlocked as of now but I prefer the F-4 for its greater stability, and speed. Its still a good turner, something lost in later marks, though its armament is less than the E-3. Incidentally alot of Luftwaffe top aces stayed with the E-3 instead of the F-4 because of the armament issue. In Fact Adolf Galland even field modified his F-4 to have the E-3s two outboard MG FF cannons in addition to the F-4s motorkanonen.

[Hrok81]

I'm usually stick to F-4 because...was Galland's favourite!! :D
Jk, I like the fact that it handles pretty well and I don't care too much about poor armament. If you can stay on a Spitfire's tail just for a little while (and have a good aim - still working on it) 2mg and a cannon it's all you need.

Tonight I tried some BnZ but didn't work very well, my F-4 seemed to be not fast enough. But hey was my first time so probably did something wrong (like forgetting to raise flaps and so on).

Good night all :)